Digital Archaeology: Codex (Floppy Disk) #10 (part 8)


A summary for those that haven’t been keeping up with this series:

I found a number of 5.25″ disks at a thrift store a number of years ago. I finally got around to acquiring a 5.25″ disk drive and extracting the contents a while back. Since then I have been posting the contents here.

Based on the contents, at least some of these disks were apparently once owned by someone named Connie who used to run the “Close Encounters” Special Interest Group (SIG) on Delphi in the mid 1980s.

A specific definition of this SIG was found in a document on one of the disks: “This SIG, known as ‘Close Encounters’, is a forum for the discussion of relationships that develop via computer services like the Source, CompuServe, and Delphi. Our primary emphasis is on the sexual aspects of those relationships.”

This service was text based and was accessed via whatever terminal program you used on your computer to dial in to Delphi’s servers. Many of these disks have forum messages, e-mails and chat session logs. All of this is pre-internet stuff and I don’t know if there are any archives in existence today of what was on Delphi in the 1980s. In any case, much of this stuff would have been private at the time and probably wouldn’t be in such archives even if they existed.

This post includes the contents of DM1027.DOC dated October 27th, 1985. It appears to be an e-mail reading session. At the top is a list of the messages, who they are from and to, the date and the subject. Below that is the contents of all of the mail. There are 64 messages.

See the previous post here.

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DM1027.DOC
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                                                                            MAIL

    # From                 Date         Subject
 
    1 BOS1A::RODM          16-OCT-1985  Read - Set your watch!
    2 BOS1A::CABUYS        17-OCT-1985  RE: Read - Set your watch!
    3 BOS1A::PRINCESS      19-OCT-1985  hi
    4 BOS1A::ELLISCO       19-OCT-1985  ztest
    5 BOS1A::CABUYS        19-OCT-1985  RE: hi
    6 BOS1A::CABUYS        19-OCT-1985  
    7 BOS1A::RODM          19-OCT-1985  
    8 BOS1A::JOHNMYSELF    20-OCT-1985  what's new.
    9 BOS1A::CABUYS        20-OCT-1985  contest winners'
   10 BOS1A::JOHNMYSELF    20-OCT-1985  RE: contest winners'
   11 BOS1A::CABUYS        20-OCT-1985  I love you!!!
   12 BOS1A::CABUYS        20-OCT-1985  reply to WILL1 regarding age question
   13 BOS1A::RODM          20-OCT-1985  Please!!!!!!!!
   14 BOS1A::CABUYS        20-OCT-1985  RE: Please!!!!!!!!
   15 BOS1A::SERVICE       21-OCT-1985  Here is some possibly delayed mail from 

   16 BOS1A::WIL1          21-OCT-1985  
   17 BOS1A::PRINCESS      21-OCT-1985  sorry about yesd.terday's talk,
   18 BOS1A::JOHNMYSELF    21-OCT-1985  reply to letter from arne
   19 BOS1A::JOHNMYSELF    21-OCT-1985  letter from arne
   20 BOS2A::RODM          22-OCT-1985  repeating!
   21 BOS2A::RODM          22-OCT-1985  again I must say!
   22 BOS2A::RODM          22-OCT-1985  and again!
   23 BOS2A::RODM          22-OCT-1985  and AGAIN!
   24 BOS2A::RODM          22-OCT-1985  and AGAIN!
   25 BOS2A::RODM          22-OCT-1985  one MORE time!
   26 BOS1A::CABUYS        23-OCT-1985  explanation
   27 BOS1A::CABUYS        23-OCT-1985  next 5 Trivia questions so I don't forge

   28 BOS1A::CABUYS        23-OCT-1985  I'm all done now and no longer /gagged!
   29 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  you should *always* have mail waiting!!!

   30 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  saying it all again
   31 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  I repeat
   32 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  thisisfun
   33 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  i should be working! <grin>
   34 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  it's raining <sigh>
   35 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  I wish I were there with you!!!
   36 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  looking forwardt. to our next *appointme

   37 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  wonder howlong I cando this before I get

   38 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  I hate this IBM keyboard!!
   39 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  mmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!! -have I told you late

   40 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  hope f.subject line'snot too long
   41 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  wish I knew how many dmails I've sent!!!

   42 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  thank *YOU* for a wonderful lunch!!!
   43 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  just being with you makes my day!!
   44 BOS1A::CABUYS        25-OCT-1985  oh well - I've l.played longe. enough - 

   45 BOS1A::JOHNMYSELF    25-OCT-1985  ?
   46 BOS1A::CABUYS        26-OCT-1985  conference transcript
   47 BOS1A::RODM          26-OCT-1985  Working on SIG - GREAT!
   48 BOS1A::RODM          26-OCT-1985  dumpted!
   49 BOS1A::RODM          26-OCT-1985  Don't forget to prepare comments!
   50 BOS1A::CABUYS        26-OCT-1985  RE: dumpted!
   51 BOS1A::CABUYS        26-OCT-1985  surprised at my feelings
   52 BOS1A::CABUYS        26-OCT-1985  RE: Don't forget to prepare comments!
   53 BOS1A::CABUYS        26-OCT-1985  hi
   54 BOS1A::CABUYS        26-OCT-1985  special delivery - hope you don't object

   55 BOS1A::CABUYS        26-OCT-1985  sig contract
   56 BOS1A::JOHNMYSELF    26-OCT-1985  RE: sig contract
   57 BOS1A::RODM          27-OCT-1985  RE: special delivery - hope you don't ob

   58 BOS1A::RODM          27-OCT-1985  Resend!
   59 BOS1A::RODM          27-OCT-1985  Special Delivery for you!
   60 BOS1A::RODM          27-OCT-1985  Withdrawn - awaiting comments
   61 BOS1A::CABUYS        27-OCT-1985  RE: Resend!
   62 BOS1A::CABUYS        27-OCT-1985  RE: Resend!
   63 BOS1A::CABUYS        27-OCT-1985  RE: Withdrawn - awaiting comments
   64 BOS1A::CABUYS        27-OCT-1985  my answer to your forum message


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    #1          16-OCT-1985 23:16:46                           
             MAIL

Fr
om:   BOS1A::RODM     
   
To:     CABUYS,R
ODM        
Subj:   
Read - Set your watch
!

My Darling Conn
ie,

Set you body
 clock by this

 
    This is a mature discreet adult SIG.....
 
                                 
                        9
                9       ^      9
                        | 
           9            |            9
                        |
                        |
                        |
        9       <-------O               9
 
 
 
           9                         9
 
                9              9
                        9
 
                 NO sex until 9:00 !
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
              
             (In other words ... NOW!!!!)


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    #2          17-OCT-1985 06:12:04                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     BOS1A::RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   RE: Read - Set your watch!

Lover!

That's really cute! I want it in the Forum! Do you mind?

I love you!

counting the hours now!

Love,
Connie


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    #3          19-OCT-1985 16:07:29                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::PRINCESS    
To:     CABUYS
Subj:   hi



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    #4          19-OCT-1985 17:20:31                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::ELLISCO      "Dick Evans"
To:     @SIGMGRS.DIS
Subj:   ztest

Everyone on my list of managers & assistants has access to ZTEST now.  The
flags set are ADE(F)V.  Only the assistants have the "F".  If I missed anybody
let one of us know.  If you need other flags, let one of us know.

Thanks

Peter & Dick (PEABO & ELLISCO)


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    #5          19-OCT-1985 22:13:29                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     BOS1A::PRINCESS,CABUYS      
Subj:   RE: hi

hi to you too!

I really do miss you!

Love,
Connie


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    #6          19-OCT-1985 22:16:07                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   

Well as you can see I made it home ok.

I had a good cry after we parted - it lasted until I got to Starke.  Otherwise
trip home was without problems.

Feeling kinda down now so not sure if/how long I'll stay on line.

By the way, I was able to pick up the radio station until I was just outside of
Starke.

I love you!

Love,
Connie


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    #7          19-OCT-1985 22:18:08                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::RODM        
To:     BOS1A::CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   

I know what you mean abt CRY!!!

Bk to Co!

I LOVE YOU!!!!!!

Morthove,

Rod


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    #8          20-OCT-1985 00:01:34                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::JOHNMYSELF  
To:     CABUYS,JOHNMYSELF  
Subj:   what's new.

think we ought to clean up the what's new corner again.
could you take care iof it?
thanks.
keep in touch 
                        Love John


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    #9          20-OCT-1985 13:41:46                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     JOHNMYSELF,CABUYS      
Subj:   contest winners'

I assume you'll go ahead and send in the checks to Delphi with appropriate
notations of the accounts to be credited.

You've done a great job with this.  Thanks!

Love,
Connie


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    #10         20-OCT-1985 17:31:15                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::JOHNMYSELF  
To:     BOS1A::CABUYS
Subj:   RE: contest winners'

But of course My love.  In fact I have the checks and 
the letter cut.
* * * * * letter * * * * *
                                 SLG Associates
                                 61 West Street
                            Hyde Park, Mass., 02136
                                20 October, 1985



General Videotex Corp. / Delphi
3 Blackstone Street
Cambridge, Mass., 02139

Subject: payment(s).








Dear Service Rep;

  Enclosed please find the checks to be applied to accounts as follows:

        #0101 in the amount of $6.00 to be applied to the 
        account of TIGLON.

        #0102 in the amount of $4.00 to be applied to the
        account of FSF.

  If possible, please itemize this payment on their statements with
indication of its source - SLG Associates.









                                   Thank you;
                                   John P. Yerger, Asst. Manager

                                   Close Encounters Sig

* * * * * I thought you'ld approve * * * * *


                                        KISSES 

to your neck, arms, breasts, legs, and your sweet warm box.


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    #11         20-OCT-1985 17:55:26                             
           MAIL

From
:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   I love you!!!

The weekend was too perfect.  It stills hurts so much to be away from you.

I've tried all day to get my mind onto other things, to find something of
interest to keep me busy, but it's an impossible task.

Your teddy bear kept me company all night long and I haven't done that in ages!

I remember all the beautiful things from this weekend and deep down I really
feel good and happy about that. But I feel something that's difficult to put
into words - something like an overwhelming longing for us to be together, to
get on with *our* life, to continue making as many beautiful memories for each
other as we possibly can <even when we both know that it can't and won't be *all* so perfect as has been!>

Enough of this! I want the feeling that was there when you told me I was
*sparkling* to be there now and I don't know how to recapture that.
Perhaps - in time.....

Until then, I love you and I will always love you!

Love,
Connie


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    #12         20-OCT-1985 21:59:11                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     @MGRS.DIS,CABUYS      
Subj:   reply to WILL1 regarding age question

Willie,

According to the membership agreement, this sig is open to those over the age
of 18.  There are a variety of reasons behind this decision.  

I personally have no objection to your being there.  However I do have a 
contract with Delphi that says the sig is for those over 18.

What I plan to do, if there is enough interest expressed by those under 18,
is to set up several sections in the sig that will be for them only.  We
would need someone of that age group to sort of manage that section.  That
someone would have to understand that I am the sig manager <in other words, the boss!><smile> and it would be up to that section manager to keep things
moving in the forum as well as try to get as many eligible members into the
sig for that section.

Until that is established, I have no choice but to abide by the terms of my
contract with Delphi, which says that if I discover someone under the age of
18, I restrict their access to the sig.  Your age was discovered by the
Profile you posted.

I don't doubt your intelligence or knowledge.  Unfortunately that can't change
things right now.

If you are interested in running a section for those under 18, please let me
know.  I would also need to know the following:

1.  The user names of 20 people currently on line under the age of 18 who tell
you they are interested in supporting such a section within this sig.

2.  What name you would like to give to the section.

3.  Six words that identify the section:  examples could be - Under 18, kids
only, teenagers, terms like that.

4.  I would need a list of topics that you would post within the forum section
for discussion by your group with examples of the first messages written out,
ready to post.

5.  After I had this, I would have to get in touch with Delphi's sig 
administrator and have him make the necessary changes within the sig here for
the new section, etc.

If you are not interested in running the section and know someone who is, please

have them contact me.

Thank you.

-Connie <cabuys>, Close Encounters Sig Manager


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    #13         20-OCT-1985 22:51:02                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::RODM        
To:     CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   Please!!!!!!!!

Darling why cant I send to you!!!???????

YOU PROMISED NEVER TO GAG!!!!!!


Love

Rod


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    #14         20-OCT-1985 22:52:07                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     BOS1A::RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   RE: Please!!!!!!!!

Honey,

I did *not* break my promise to you!

I was in Workspace, UPLOADing a file and the /gag is automatic.
sigh.

Love,
Connie


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    #15         21-OCT-1985 19:21:23                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::SERVICE     
To:     CABUYS
Subj:   Here is some possibly delayed mail from Sunday evening, 13-October.


From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE" 13-OCT-1985 19:34
To:     BOS1A::RODM,CABUYS
Subj:   RE: survey

Darling, as soon as I can, I will post the survey since I did not get to
ask the questions during the conference.

I love you!

Love,
Connie

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE" 13-OCT-1985 19:20
To:     BOS1A::JOEY,CABUYS
Subj:   RE: Whereabouts

Thanks, Joey!  Don't work too hard and do have a wonderful vacation!

<hugs>
-Connie

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE" 13-OCT-1985 19:33
To:     BOS1A::RODM,CABUYS
Subj:   RE: missed again!

Sweetheart,

I do wish you had called me at the office.  I miss you so much and want to
hear your voice!

I got up at 8 AM on Sat., took a jacket to be altered, took the car thru the
car wash, then got to work about 10 am.  I was able to get most of what I
wanted to accomplish done, but when my boss came in around noon, there was
a lot of interruption in his efforts to "help" me with something. sigh.

I left the office and got home about 4:30, bringing a *lot* of work home with
me to do on the computer here.  I worked on that until 3 minutes before
conference time, then logged on for the conference.

I sent to John that you had left me a list of questions for the conference.
Then I made an open comment to the same effect.  Both comments were
ignored and I was so aggravated with him and so exhausted it was all I could
do to stay til the end of the conference.  He just seemed so unaware that
I had said something about your questions twice - and I wish I knew why he
was so distracted at that particular time.

I got up at 8 AM Sunday, took laundry to the laundromat, naturally had to
have trouble with two of the machines which weren't working right which caused
me to be there longer than I had hoped.  I brought the wet laundry home to
dry, then had to go to the ATM, Zayre's to pick up some things, to grocery
store for Cokes, and filled the car up with gas.

For some time now, I've been looking for a place that I could use to teach
Dennis how to drive.  I found such a place when I was returning home from
the errands.  As soon as we had put stuff away, I told Dennis to get ready to
go with me but would not tell him where we were going! <i'm learning to be like you!><grin>  He was so curious!

We got there and I pulled up, stopped the car, and asked him what he knew about
driving.  He always told me he knew how but once on the spot the truth came out.

Anyway he had his first driving lesson which lasted about an hour before we
returned home.  He did quite well actually and we both felt great about it!
Sunday's will probably be on the only time we can use this area but that should
do for a while.  I can't believe I actually did this! Do you have any idea
what that means to me?!?!?!

Then I returned to working on stuff from the office since Delphi was not up
and running. sigh.  I had planned to do so
much on line today but it will now have to wait.  I'm rapidly approaching the po
int of total exhaustion!

I love you and miss you so much! I even tried once to call the office hoping
you would be there. sigh.  I can only hope that you can call soon!

I love you!!!!!

Love,
Connie


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    #16         21-OCT-1985 19:53:53                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::WIL1        
To:     CABUYS
Subj:   



Well, maybe, but I will just do the same thing in the sig me and my freiends
are making, it will be out soon, if you are 20 arourr over, you can not be in it
.
(HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!)

I hope you are happy!

Bye,

Wililie (WIL1)

p.s. nice of you!


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    #17         21-OCT-1985 19:59:20                           
             MAIL

From:   BOS1A::
PRINCESS    
To:    
 CABUYS
Subj:   sorry about yesd
terday's 
talk,

was most uncomfortable conversation I have had
with you in a long time.  I wguess we will get
used to it, but is hard not sharing things
with you. <sigh> 
love,

Peggy
<hugs>


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    #18         21-OCT-1985 21:12:50                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::JOHNMYSELF  
To:     CABUYS
Subj:   reply to letter from arne

Actually, I was a bit at fault in not simply letting the matter ride.
However, a simple number would have been preferred.

As for the age limit, we well know the problems in that regard but 
are none the less responsible for seeing that 'to the best of our
abilities' we enforce them.  

Why bother?  Very simple.  If we fail to make the attempt, then we can have 
trouble from those parents who don't want 'us' exposing their kids to
(possibly) sexually related material.  It could become a problem.

Of course we should be on speaking terms.  Damn poor sig manager I'ld
be if I let something so trivial interfere with members and their
abilities to communicate. (especially with the management).



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    #19         21-OCT-1985 21:13:32                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::JOHNMYSELF  
To:     CABUYS
Subj:   letter from arne

From:   BOS1A::ARNE         21-OCT-1985 20:55
To:     JOHNMYSELF
Subj:   age

~GGee, John, this has really gotten out of hand.  On that infamous noghtight it
wasn't my intention to antagonize anyone -- I honestly (if misguidedly)
thought my jokes about age were at leaast mildly amusing, and was stunned
when y'all took such a hard-liner approach to the matter.  Naturally I was
hurt at being snubbed, and dashed off a couple of irate letters-to-the-
editor, but all this public apologies stuff -- well, it's just so unnecessary.

As far as age limits in the sig , well the present set-up has y'all trying
to enforce rules which any reasonably intelligent 11-year-old could circumvene,
so why bother?

I hope we're at least approaching speaking terms.

                                -- Arenne


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    #20         22-OCT-1985 04:05:45                                        MAIL

From:   BOS2A::RODM        
To:     CABUYS
Subj:   repeating!

From:   BOS1A::RODM          1-OCT-1985 00:07
To:     CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   Love send

My Beloved Darling Connie,
 
Here I go again!, but this poem is OBVIOUSLY a PRIVATE one!:
 
 
At first there was only a few words on a screen,
 
And even those were only occasionally seen.
 
Then I sent questions of panic on the phone.
 
Oh how could I have possibly known,
 
That after meeting face to face,
 
My heart would pound at such a pace,
 
And that a person who was once a curiousity,
 
Would become the focus of my very destiny.
 
 
 
Love and life have shown me what now must be my destiny,
 
And what endless love and happiness will soon be given to me.
 
But there are yet some commitments and decisions to be made,
 
And some pain and prices to be paid.
 
When all of that is finished and done,
 
A love lasting the rest of my life will be won.
 
I know you are feeling the pain of waiting,
 
But our life together will be worth the getting.
 
I cannot now be all you would have me to be,
 
But when that day comes you will have ALL of me!
 
 
Darling,  I risk such enormous pain for both of us in refering to these things 
but  I can no longer deny my feelings although I don't know if it will  be  by 
discovery  or resolve that these things will come to be but I admit and  await 
our destiny!!!
 
With all of me I love you,
 
Rod


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    #21         22-OCT-1985 04:07:07                                        MAIL

From:   BOS2A::RODM        
To:     CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   again I must say!

 
   IIIIII      LLLLLL       OOOO  VV          VV  EEEEEEEE
     II          LL        OOOOOO  VV        VV    EE
     II          LL       OO    OO  VV      VV     EE
     II          LL       OO    OO   VV    VV      EEEE
     II          LL       OO    OO    VV  VV       EE
     II          LL    LL  OOOOOO      VVVV        EE
   IIIIII      LLLLLLLLLL   OOOO        VV        EEEEEEEE
 
 
 
 
          YYYYY    YYYYY       OOOO        UUUU  UUUU
            YY      YY        OOOOOO        UU    UU
             YY    YY        OO    OO       UU    UU
              YY  YY         OO    OO       UU    UU
               YYYY          OO    OO       UU    UU
                YY           OO    OO       UU    UU
                YY            OOOOOO         UUUUUU
              YYYYYY           OOOO           UUUU
 
 


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    #22         22-OCT-1985 04:08:20                                        MAIL

From:   BOS2A::RODM        
To:     CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   and again!

 
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
OVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !
U !    I  LOVE YOU !
 I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE  YOU !    I  LOVE YOU !


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    #23         22-OCT-1985 04:09:48                                        
MAIL

From:   BOS2A::RODM        
To:     CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   and AGAIN!

 
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
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MAIL> 

    #24         22-OCT-1985 04:11:06                                        MAIL

From:   BOS2A::RODM        
To:     CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   and AGAIN!

 
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
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MAIL> 

    #25         22-OCT-1985 04:11:40                                        MAIL

From:   BOS2A::RODM        
To:     CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   one MORE time!

 
 >>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> I  LOVE  YOU <<<<<<<<<<
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MAIL> 

    #26         23-OCT-1985 17:55:55                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   explanation

Sweetheart,

Don't be upset with me if you come in and find me on line and /gagged. I'm
trying very hard to catch up on capturing the forum to disk.  Last message
in file you captured is 165 which means I have a lot to do! <grin>

I love you!!!!

Love,
Connie


MAIL> 

    #27         23-OCT-1985 18:22:04                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     JOHNMYSELF,CABUYS      
Subj:   next 5 Trivia questions so I don't forget!

1.  On average, how many pelvic thrusts does a man deliver during intercourse?

2.  According to the Kinsey Report, during what activity do some individuals
become unconscious for a matter of seconds or even for some minutes?

3.  What is the most successful porno file of all time?

4.  What famous hooker said:  "My method is basically the same as Masters and
Johnson, only when they charge thousands of dollars it's called therapy.  I
charge $50 and it's called prostitution."

5.  How many people are involved in a "menage a cinq">?

Answers
=======

1.  50-100
2.  orgasm
3.  Deep Throat
4.  Xaviera Hollander
5.  Five


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    #28         23-OCT-1985 18:23:37                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   I'm all done now and no longer /gagged!


and I love you very, very much!!!!!

Love,
Connie


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    #29         25-OCT-1985 14:37:48                                        MAIL

From:
   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     ROD
M,CABUYS      
Subj:   you should *always* have mail waiting!!! <grin>


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #30         25-OCT-1985 14:38:00                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   saying it all again


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #31         25-OCT-1985 14:38:13                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   I repeat


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #32         25-OCT-1985 14:38:27                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   thisisfun


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #33         25-OCT-1985 14:38:42                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   i should be working! <grin>


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


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    #34         25-OCT-1985 14:38:57                           
           
  MAIL

From:   BOS1A
::CABUYS       "CONN
IE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      

Subj:   it's raining <s igh>


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #35         25-OCT-1985 14:39:34                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   I wish I were there with you!!!


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #36         25-OCT-1985 14:40:02                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   looking forwardt to our next *appointment* !!!!!


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #37         25-OCT-1985 14:40:40                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   wonder howlong I cando this before I get caught?!?!?! <grin>


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #38         25-OCT-1985 14:40:54                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   I hate this IBM keyboard!!


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #39         25-OCT-1985 14:41:16                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   mmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!! -have I told you lately that I love you!?!?!?!


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #40         25-OCT-1985 14:41:32                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   hope fsubject line'snot too long


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #41         25-OCT-1985 14:41:53                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   wish I knew how many dmails I've sent!!! <giggle>


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #42         25-OCT-1985 14:42:16                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   thank *YOU* for a wonderful lunch!!!


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


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    #43         25-OCT-1985 14:42:33                           
             MAIL

From:   BOS1A::
CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RO
DM,CABUYS      
Subj:   just being with you makes my day!!


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #44         25-OCT-1985 14:42:55                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   oh well - I've lplayed longe enough - back to work


Sweetheart,

I love you!!!

Love, Connie
        


MAIL> 

    #45         25-OCT-1985 22:18:58                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::JOHNMYSELF  
To:     CABUYS
Subj:   ?

Roses are red,

Violets are blue;

Can't wait to get you in bed,

and make sweet love to you.

                Licking you in all the warm wet places.


MAIL> 

    #46         26-OCT-1985 12:43:05                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     JOHNMYSELF,CABUYS      
Subj:   conference transcript

Lover, while you and I make sweet passionate love <smile>, do you think yoyu
could also upload the transcript of the *second* conference on sexual
positions to me so I could edit and submit to database?

Love,
Connie


MAIL> 

    #47         26-OCT-1985 14:47:26                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::RODM        
To:     CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   Working on SIG - GREAT!

My DELICOUS Darling Connie,

I can tell you are working on the sig 'cause I can't send!

I wait patiently and anxiously!!!

I LOVE YOUY !!!!!!!!!!!

Love,

Rod


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    #48         26-OCT-1985 16:19:42                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::RODM        
To:     CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   dumpted!

My Beloved Darling Connie,

I was dumped by call-waiting and after answering the call and logging on
you both <you and john> were gone!

If you haven't already you {_need to call John and talk to him there is 
something very wrong there!

I hope I am wrong but I don't think so!!!!

PLEASE let me know what you find out when you talk to him !!!

He obvious
ly is also chasing your body!!!
!!!! <but i'm afraid there is more!>


Until our next contact my Darling!!!!

Love,

Rod


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    #49         26-OCT-1985 16:33:10                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::RODM        
To:     CABUYS
Subj:   Don't forget to prepare comments!

From:   BOS1A::RODM          6-OCT-1985 15:03
To:     CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   list

My Dear Connie,
 
The  last  couple of conferences have dealt with sexual positions and  I  have 
followed the discussions very closely but for several reasons could not put my 
thoughts  and experiences together concisely enough nor can I enter data  fast 
enough  or  even  tell it to you fast enough to keep up with the pace  of  the 
conferences so I am formulating several lists and messages which might via the 
forum or articles be of help to the SIG, its conferences, or its membership in 
the future discussions.
 
The  first  of  these is the following list of coital positions  that  I  have 
experienced  with  varying  degrees of success.  This list  does  not  contain 
positions for oral sex,  anal sex,  mutual masterbation,  or manual /  digital 
<finger not computer>  stimulation,  nor does it include the  advantages  or 
disadvatages of the positions listed but if I can develope the courage all  of 
those lists and references will soon follow.
 
I  hope  that when seen this list will make everyone aware that the  positions 
are variations and many of them are actually very common,  others in the  list 
are  NOT  real common and usually are related to  some  event,  occassion,  or 
circumstance.
 
Afterall  Life itself is filled with variations and often those variations are 
the beauties, treasures, or 'flowers' of life!
 
ENOUGH!! - Now the List!:
 
Position    Woman's Position         Man's Position         Relative Positions
________    ______________________   _____________________  __________________
                                                            
1           Lying on back            Horizontal above       Face to face
2           "  "  "   "              "  "  "  "  "  "       Opposite(Head-toe)
3           "  "  "  side            Beside                 Face to face 
4           "  "  "   "              "  " (Forming 'X')     Back to face
5           "  " / kneeling over     Kneeling               Man behind Woman
6           Sitting/Kneeling atop    Lying on back          Facing
7           "   "   "    "   " "     "  "   "  "            Woman facing away
8           Squatting over           "  "   "  "            Facing
9           "    "    " "            "  "   "  "            Woman facing away
10          Sitting on Man           Sitting(leaning back)  Facing
                                     (man can reach woman)
11          "    "  "  "             "  "                   Woman facing away
12          Squatting over           "  "                   " "   "  "   "  "
13          "    "    " "            "  "                   Facing
14          Leaning onto table       Standing               Man behind Woman
15          Lying on table           "   "                  Man facing Woman
                                                           (holding her legs)
16          Leaning over low back    "   "                  Man behind Woman
            chair or arm of couch
17          Standing (leaning back)  "   " (leaning back)   Facing
18          "   "  (leaning forward) "   "                  Man behind Woman
 
Note: Positions 17 & 18 are limited but what a way to end a mutual shower!!


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    #50         26-OCT-1985 20:03:27                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     BOS1A::RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   RE: dumpted!

Sweetheart,

It was difficult for me to talk anyway when you and John were on line but
only because Chuck kept wondering in and out of the room. sigh.

I called John just a little while ago.  Peg is away this weekend <she had not told me about this because we don't talk stu>; also last night some kids
egged his house and car and put dirt into gas tank of car.

I should have realized that Peg was away - that's when he always comes on to me
or as you say "chasing my body".

Unfortunately I was quickly informed that I had called at not too good a time
because it was time for 'Airwolf' on TV.  oh well.

Rod, I love them both very much, but obviously they can't be there for me when
I need them and I can't be there for them if/when they need me.  I value their
friendship very very much, yet see that I'm losing it and I don't really know
how to recover it.

Guess we'll <you and i> will be talking soon about this again.

Love,
Connie


MAIL> 

    #51         26-OCT-1985 20:07:21                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   surprised at my feelings

Sweetheart,

This is going to sound very strange and it's not something I want you to make
a big fuss over but if I tell you about it it will help me to deal with it.

Strange as it seems, I feel rejection just because John acted as tho watching
Airwolf on TV was more important than talking to me.  He said we could talk
later tonight or tomorrow and I agreed,  but I *really* wanted to talk then.

Am I being foolish? selfish? inconsiderate of him? or what?

Am I going to feel the same way when you have something to do at a time when
I want to talk to you?

I certainly hope not! I don't like the way I feel right now!

But I do know one thing -

I love you very very much!

Love,
Connie


MAIL> 

    #52         26-OCT-1985 20:18:13                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     BOS1A::RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   RE: Don't forget to prepare comments!

Here goes, Sweetheart!

#1 - my favorite because of the "protected" feeling it gives me- however with
you and I, I am always concerned about the pain you may feel.

#2 - sounds interesting enough but I just can't picture it - very will to give
it a try tho.

#3 - never experienced this but willing to try

#4 -  I think you know how I feel about this one! <grin>

#5 - *if* this is one we tried before, I want very much to try it again! <grin>

#6 - would take a lot of work to get me ready for this one, dear.

#7 - same as #6

#8 - same as #6

#9 - kinda like floating around in the water, huh? <grin> can't imagine us
doing it but wish we could!

#10 - wish we could try this too

#11 - willing to give this a try once or twice before I can say much more about
it

#12 - same as #11

#14




13 - same as #11

#14 -
       definitely willing to try this and soon!

#15 - not really interested in trying this - I don't trust the table to hold
the weight.

#16 - same as #14



#17 - don't think I'd handle this very well at all.

#18 - same as #17


<how long will it take for these comments to come back 'haunt' me?><grin>

I love you!

Love,
Connie


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    #53         26-OCT-1985 20:25:16                           
            
 MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     PRINCESS,CABUYS      
Subj:   hi

Dear Peggy,

I had planned to call you this weekend for a long chat but for obvious reasons
can't.

I am so very sorry that we are both so uncomfortable with each other these days
that we can no longer share what is important to us.  If I am being too
sensitive or selfish about this, please forgive me.

We were always able to talk things out together before this.  I really do need
to do that now.  I also need to talk about Rod, to share with you and John
both about what is going on in my life.  But I can't do that either, until
you and I have this behind us.

I really want you to know that I still care very much about you and that we are
still friends.  I do miss you so!!


Love,
Connie


MAIL> 

    #54         26-OCT-1985 21:08:14                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   special delivery - hope you don't object!

 
305  26-OCT 21:06 Open Forum
     sex positions & me
     From: CABUYS       To: ALL
 
This is a tough one for me to share, but I'm going to give it my best.
 
The conferences we've had here on sexual positions have lead to a lot
of discussion between my lover and I, as well as some experimenting.
 
He has tactfully pointed out to me that I don't like certain positions
because I don't want to be put into the position of having to be the
one responsible for the success of such.
 
Although I've presented him with a number of reasons why certain
positions don't work for me or appeal to me, he's sure it is because
of my lack of confidence.  He's also very sure that we will work
together to overcome this.
 
What I'd like to hear from others here is why you *don't* like certain
positions or why they don't work for you?
 
(Honestly, I'm not looking for *new* reasons to add to my list, but it
would be comforting to know that others might have similar
likes/dislikes or problems.)
 
Anyone willing to give this a try?
r


MAIL> 

    #55         26-OCT-1985 21:10:50                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     JOHNMYSELF,CABUYS      
Subj:   sig contract

John,

Did you ever get our copy of the signed contract back from Kelly before her
departure from Delphi?

If not, I'd like to get it ASAP.  If so, would you send me a copy please?

Thanks, lover!

Love,
Connie


MAIL> 

    #56         26-OCT-1985 21:11:53                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::JOHNMYSELF  
To:     BOS1A::CABUYS,JOHNMYSELF  
Subj:   RE: sig contract


will check but don't recall getting anything back.
will check into it Monday if not.
kiss


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    #57         27-OCT-1985 01:18:31                                       
 MAIL

From:   BOS1A:
:RODM        
To:     BOS1A::CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   RE: special delivery - hope you don't object!

My Beloved DELICOUS Darling Connie,

I hope this message brings you many viewpoints and some answers to your question
s

By this message I mean the one you posted in the forum about sexual positions.

The one thing that your message said that I didn't realize and I hope I can 
correct is that I referred to your inconfidence but I didn't mean you to think
that I thought that the other reasons you give are not valid ones I agree that 
they are but I thought the MAIN reason was the fear on your part about having th
e
'principle' role.

If I conveyed to you that I thought you lack of confidence was the only reason
then I am 'undermining' your confidence and not helping it and I would NEVER wan
t 
to do that!!!

I do think that whatever you would like for us to try together we can do!!!!

I wrote this on-line and made a mess - I will edit and resend it!

My Darling I love you so very VERY much and want more than anything YOUR
happiness and pleasure in ALL that we do!!!!

Love,

Rod


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    #58         27-OCT-1985 01:50:54                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::RODM        
To:     CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   Resend!

 
My Beloved DELICOUS Darling Connie,
 
I  hope  this  message  brings you many viewpoints and  some  answers  to  your 

questions.
 
By this message I mean the one you posted in the forum about sexual positions.
 
The  one  thing that your message said that I didn't realize and I hope  I  can 

correct is that I referred to your inconfidence but I didn't mean you to  think 

that  I thought that the other reasons you give are not valid ones I agree that 

they  are but I thought the MAIN reason was the fear on your part about  having 

the 'principle' role.
 
If I conveyed to you that I thought you lack of confidence was the only  reason 

then  I  am 'undermining' your confidence and not helping it and I would  NEVER 

want to do that!!!
 
I do think that whatever you would like for us to try together we can do!!!!
 
I wrote this on-line and made a mess - I will edit and resend it!
 
My  Darling  I  love  you so very VERY much and want  more  than  anything  YOUR
 
happiness and pleasure in ALL that we do!!!!
 
Love,
 
Rod
 


MAIL> 

    #59         27-OCT-1985 02:22:44                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::RODM        
To:     CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   Special Delivery for you!

 
308  27-OCT 02:16 Open Forum
     RE: sex positions & me (Re: Msg 305)
     From: RODM         To: CABUYS (NR)
 
WOW!
 
You are presenting a chalanging question!
 
I guess the first thing that comes to mind that I would share is that anything
as intimate as sexual positions must be the mutual adventure of BOTH partners
and never be something imposed by one on the other.
 
The next thing is that whatever objection one partner has to a particular sexual

position, act, or anything shared that objection should be recognized as a valid

one and that objection answered by BOTH and an agreement hopefully reached!
 
Now for the question as to positions NOT liked.
 
I am going to NOT be specific but say that there several positions I find
unfavor
able for reasons of discomfort, <physical and psychological> not expressive of
love and passion, or just not possible for me to perform!
 
In all of the cases above I feel justified in my objections and trust my partner

will be respective of my objections.
 
In my history such objections were sometimes NOT respected and that can cause
something that may be between or a combination of humiliation and pain to my
person or ego.
 
I hope I NEVER cause that discomfort for my Love!
 
I hope that posses some answer or support for you and anyone else.
 
Rodm


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    #60         27-OCT-1985 03:53:53                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::RODM        
To:     CABUYS,RODM        
Subj:   Withdrawn - awaiting comments

My Beloved C
Re,
 
I deleted my message from the forum because I was afraid it might be taken as
a rebutal and that can not be!!
 
After you read my comment let me know how appropiate you think my comment is
to be placed in the forum.
 
Love,
 
Rod


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    #61         27-OCT-1985 08:20:54                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     BOS1A::RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   RE: Resend!

Honey,

You have in no way undermined my confidence.  If you had, that particular
message would never have been posted.

Granted, I know me well enough to know that I lack confidence in a lot of
areas but since you've entered my life, my confidence has increased in so
many ways that I'm not even sure you understand all the changes that have
occurred within me! 

I was so worried about posting that message, thinking that you might object
because I had taken something very personal and intimate between us and
"gone public" with it.  I hoped that I had worded the message in the right
way to convey only the fear I have of being in the 'principle' role.

And you did hit the nail square on the head when you made that observation!
And I've acknowledged it. So with your loving help, we overcome, right?
<smile>

I do love you so very, very much!

Love,
Connie


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    #62         27-OCT-1985 08:22:27                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     BOS1A::RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   RE: Resend!

Sweetheart,

I almost forgot one thing - the reason I posted the message is not so much as
whether *I* can get some answers, as much as it is hoping to help others
realize they may be faced with something similar.

Love,
Connie


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    #63         27-OCT-1985 08:24:20                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     BOS1A::RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   RE: Withdrawn - awaiting comments

Darling,

Please re-enter your message in the forum for me.

I love you!

Love,
Connie

P.S.  The next message to you is what I plan to answer your message with when
you've re-entered it.  Ok?

I love you!


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    #64         27-OCT-1985 08:31:57                                        MAIL

From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
To:     RODM,CABUYS      
Subj:   my answer to your forum message

I've been very lucky!  My partner and I have the mutual respect and love for
each other that allows us to talk about *EVERYTHING* including our deepest
feelings about the mutual adventure we are sharing.

Love, support, understanding and communication between lovers is so important
but too often we get so wrapped up in other things that this all gets put on
hold.

In this particular incident I have to admit that I *thought* I was doing very
well in keeping the real reason for objecting to various positions well hidden.
You can imagine my shock when his comment hit the nail square on the head!
Now that I've acknowledged the real reason, he and I can go on together to
hopefully overcome this.



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