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  • Digital Archaeology: eMachines T5088

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    eMachines were known for their bargain basement priced computers. Unfortunately, while they were certainly cheap for their time, you got what you paid for. The T5088 was their middle of the road model but there wasn’t much in the way of price or features that separated the three desktop models they had on the market at the time (2007). This model retailed for $450 which was $50 more than the lowest end model. For the extra $50 you got a slightly lower clocked but hyperthreaded Pentium 4 with a larger cache (which was slightly faster overall) and a somewhat larger hard drive. The stock hardware includes:

    • CPU: Intel Pentium 4 HT 641 @ 3.2 GHz (Cedar Mill)
    • RAM: 512MB PC2-4200
    • Video: Intel 82945G Express
    • Hard Drive: 160 GB

    Check the output of CPU-Z or HWiNFO for more hardware details.

    Mine has been upgraded to have 1.5 GB of RAM and even that really seems insufficient for the Vista Home Basic OS that it came with. I can’t imagine running with only 512MB. Otherwise, my T5088 seems to be completely stock with even the original hard drive and recovery partition which it looks to have been restored with before I got it.

    There do seem to be some upgrade options. While officially there is not much of an upgrade path, I found at least one claim that flashing to the latest stock Intel BIOS for this board (D945GCCR) will allow the use of up to a Core 2 Duo E4600. Moving from a P4 to a Core 2 Duo and having two real cores to work with is a pretty substantial upgrade. This will also allow installing up to 4GB of RAM which may or may not work with the eMachines BIOS (2GB is the official limit).

    You can also install a video card as there is a PCI Express x16 slot. However, you should really upgrade the power supply first which is a 300 watt model. Upgrading the power supply is good advice for the T5088 anyway as eMachines of at least this era have a rather poor reputation when it comes to power supplies. They tend to fail in a destructive manner that can take out the motherboard, CPU and/or other components. As far as I know, the one I have still has the original power supply so I am living on the edge. In any case, a standard power supply and motherboard layout seems to have been used with this model which makes upgrading easy in that regard. That isn’t always the case with OEM systems.

    I don’t know how many eMachines T5088s are left in the world but there will probably be one fewer when I am done here. Although it is in nearly mint condition and even includes the original hard drive with an original OS restore, it just isn’t that interesting of a machine. For Pentium 4 based machines I would be far more interested in something Socket 423 or 478 based. Socket 775 is really a Core 2 Duo socket with the Pentium 4 being made for it to have a budget processor for that platform. It makes little sense to upgrade such a machine to a Core 2 Duo CPU especially when OEMs make it intentionally difficult. I will most likely repurpose the hard drive and RAM and possibly sell off the motherboard, CPU and maybe even the power supply for those that might be looking for such spares. The case will probably get recycled. In the past I might have upgraded it just to see how far I could push it but I have better Pentium 4 and Core 2 Duo machines and I’ve accumulated too many overall and am trying to reduce a little. This one is a prime candidate for downsizing my collection.

    For the moment, I am typing this on that machine as it processes various tasks for BOINC. It can still crunch tasks at least for Einstein@home, World Community Grid, Asteroids@home, and possibly MilkyWay@home and others. You can also check out how it is doing over all at FreeDC.


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  • Digital Archaeology: eMachines ET1352

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    eMachines was known for their bargain basement desktop prices. While they made for very affordable PCs there’s also that old maxim that you get what you pay for. The specs you got when you bought an eMachines computer were typically sufficient for the time but barely. Considering what you were paying that’s not necessarily a horrible thing but reliability tended to be a mixed bag. I have a couple of eMachines in my collection that are decades old but still work fine so its not like reliability was bad across the board. Some models had their problems though. Power supplies were a notable failure point with some models.

    I’m really not sure what the overall reliability of the ET1352-01 model was, only that the one I have still works fine. However, there’s no doubt that the specs were pretty minimal. It had a single core CPU when multi-core CPUs had already long been the norm. It also came with only 2GB of RAM. This was more than the minimum of 1 GB required for Windows Vista but it hardly made having a 64-bit CPU worthwhile. Finally, it had an integrated video chipset that wasn’t good for much of anything except basic display as opposed to a dedicated GPU. System specs include:

    • CPU: AMD Athlon II 160u
    • RAM: 2 GB DDR3
    • Hard Drive: 500 GB
    • Video: nVidia GeForce 6150SE

    For more complete hardware info, check out the output from HardInfo.

    This CPU is literally the slowest available on socket AM3. It isn’t much faster than some Pentium 4s released several years earlier. However, I suppose you could say one good thing about it…it only used 10-20 watts of power.

    Despite having the nVidia name, the integrated GeForce 6150SE was pretty useless for most major contemporary games. I’m sure it was better that whatever Intel was putting on motherboards but that really isn’t saying much. I’m sure if you were interested in games that were several years older it probably would have been ok.

    I guess the one nice thing about a very cheap computer with low end components is that there are a lot of potential upgrade opportunities. Or at least in some such cases there are and this is one of those cases. I believe in the case of this machine, it uses standard components so the sky is the limit if you want to completely gut it. However, it’s not like the case is super high quality or otherwise particularly desirable so if you were going to go that far, you might as well buy a new case too.

    Sticking with the original case, power supply, motherboard and drives, there is still a lot of upgrade room here. While it would not have shocked me if this computer was limited to 4GB, I was in fact able to upgrade it all the way to 8 GB. That puts it comfortably (from a memory perspective anyway) in modern Linux and Windows 10 territory.

    The next obvious upgrade is the CPU. There is nowhere to go but up. In theory, you may be able to go as high as a Phenom II X6 which would give you a 6 core CPU. However, I was not really sure that this motherboard would reliably handle providing the power needed for that CPU. It’s already old and those capacitors aren’t getting any stronger. I decided to go with a Phenom II X4 910e. It runs at 2.6 GHz (almost a full GHz faster than what was in it) as well as providing 3 more cores. That’s like 5x the computing power before taking into account things like additional cache.

    Finally, I added a dedicated GPU. Sticking with the original power supply means that my choices are somewhat restricted. Probably anything that does not require an additional power connector would be ok. I stuck in an nVidia Quadro 600 just because I had one around. Something like a GT 1030 would be much better but even this Quadro is orders of magnitude better than the build in chipset. With these upgrades in can comfortable run a modern Linux distribution or Windows 10. I currently have Xubuntu installed.

    There’s no doubt this was an extremely low-end machine as configured. Fortunately, it has a pretty significant upgrade path making it a reasonable value for those looking to tinker with their machine but not wanting to build one up from scratch. Certainly it is better than those bargain machines that are maxed out on older architecture with little or no upgrade path.

    Like all the machines I operate, this one is crunching various BOINC tasks when it is on. Since it has a 64-bit CPU it can crunch tasks for pretty much any project. So far, it has complete tasks for Einstein@home, Asteroids@home, Milkyway@home, Rosetta@home, and World Community Grid. No tasks for Universe@home yet as I write this but there haven’t been any available. You can also check out how it is doing overall at Free-DC.


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