Digital Archaeology: Codex (Floppy Disk) #8 (part 18)

It’s been a while but here’s another post in this long running series. :)



A summary for those that haven’t been keeping up with this series:

I found a bunch of 5.25″ disks at a thrift store a number of years ago. I finally got around to acquiring a 5.25″ disk drive and extracting the contents a while back. Since then I have been posting the contents here.

Based on the contents, at least some of these disks were apparently once owned by someone named Connie A. Buys who used to run the “Close Encounters” Special Interest Group (SIG) on Delphi in the mid 1980s.

A specific definition of this SIG was found in a previous document on one of the disks: “This SIG, known as “Close Encounters”, is a forum for the discussion of relationships that develop via computer services like the Source, CompuServe, and Delphi. Our primary emphasis is on the sexual aspects of those relationships.”

Everything was text based from whatever terminal program you used to dial in to Delphi’s servers. Many of these disks have forum messages, e-mails and chat session logs. All of this is pre-internet stuff and I don’t know if there are any archives in existence today of what was on Delphi in the 1980s. In any case, much of this stuff would have been private at the time and some of it is quite personal.



I’ve been splitting up the contents of this disk (descriptively labeled “File Disk”) since it contains a number of documents, some of which are pretty long. A 5.25″ floppy disk can still hold an impressive amount of info when it is just text. (see the previous parts here: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17).

This post contains a chat log from the Close Encounters Sig Conference on October 12th, 1985. The subject was nominally adult magazines.

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SEXMAGCO.DOC
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    Close Encoutners Sig Conference of October 12, 1985 - 

*Connie just joined CLE-SEX MAGS & WHY READ THEM (3 members now)**
** the person who suggested this weeks topic
 1) .Marti> John..
 1) .Myself> isn't even going to be here tonight
 1) .Myself> can u believe that?
 1) . who suggested it My??
 1) .Connie> who suggested it, John?
 1) . Marc??

 1)  ** Dick just joined CLE - CENTERFOLD (7 members now) **

 1) .Myself> E
 1) .Myself> hi dick
 1) . er tropical?
 1) JOEY> Hi Dick.
 1) . Hi Dick!
 1) .Dick> hi all.
 JOEY> She took her hubby out for his birthday, John.
 . true my
 . imold enough  (hiding diaper pins)
 .Connie> I have a whole list of questions from RODM about the
          conference topic tonight since he could not be here.
 . connie--* wore him out HUH?
 . Well thanks to WHOEVER started it I have a clean closet
          [:grin:]
 .Myself> yes tiggy, I am sure u r.
 . ellen-* hehehehe so does Mark!!
 .Connie> <right, Tiggy, right - acutally I'm the one who's worn out!>
 . (and I'm 25 cents richer)
 .Myself> ellen, that should just abt pay this weeks dues in the
          Myself fan club
 . hahahaha  you THAT cheap????
 .Myself> of which you are a charter member
 . awhhh thanks :::blushing:::
 .Myself> 
 .Connie> 
 . just drop it in the bed ellenk
 . You mean <> am YOUR fan or YOU are <> ? [:grin:]
 .Myself> now to the topic
 .Myself> Liz suggested we ask why men 
 .Myself> buy these various magazines.
 JOEY> Maybe?
 . lots of women actually
 .Myself> Yes, I am sure that it is for the good journalism and the
          fine art - right?
 .Dick> brb
 . Great pictures! I use them sometimes in my artwork
 . WE know ellen!
 . and LOVE the stories
 . sure ellen sure
 .  =* tee hee *=
 . I *do* buy both mags
 . but then I buy New Yorker too [:grin:]
 .Dick> returned
 .Myself> actually there are a number of such publications ranging
          from Penthouse to the really porn stuff
 . never heard of New Yorker Ellen
 .Myself> lets leave out the garbage though
 . oops gotta go help a new sysop see ya!
 . - signed off -

  ** IDEL just joined CLE - CENTERFOLD (7 members now) **

 .Marti> Hi Idel!!!
 . idel Idel!
 .greg> Hi Marti!
 JOEY> Hi Idel.,
 .greg> Hi Tigg! Joey!
 .greg> been a long time since I've seen some of yu folks...and it's
        good to see you!
 .Myself> wlcm bck greg - u were missed.
 .Marti> Good to see you greg!!!
 .Myself> now as I was saying -
 .greg> really? so who was the lousy shot, John...? 
 .greg> ga
 .Myself> first - why do folks buy these mags - besides the high
          quality reporting, and good stories <huh!>
 JOEY> !
 .Myself> ga joey
 JOEY> I like the pictures.
 JOEY> ga
 .Marti> 
 .Myself> right, and don't 4 get the pretty colors too
 .Myself> what yuck marti?
 . and the scratch and sniff now too!
 .Marti> ??
 .Myself> ga marti
 JOEY> I always tell the truth.
 .Marti> Well I don't buy them because...
 .Myself> 
 .Marti> I'm too embarassed to buy Playgirl...
 .Marti> and the others don't turn me on except for the few times..
 .Marti> there is a man involved...
 .Marti> a lady with her legs spread is not exactly a turn on for
         me...
 .Marti> nothing good looking about female genitals!! GA
 .greg> !
 .Myself> guess it depends on your point of view - actually there must
          be something good (looking or otherwise) since nearly every
          normal male keeps trying to get inside them.
 .Myself> ga greg
 .Marti> 
 .greg> I bought them when I was younger......in
 .Myself> not really greg
 .greg> late teens and 20s. As I got older, I stopped...
 .Myself> I buy them off n on
 .greg> ...
 .Myself> right !!! humor !! haha
 .greg> only realize why now, since didn't really give it much thought
        before..
 .greg> Tho the women in the mags may be lovely, their sexuality is
        presented in a way that is often...
 .greg> harsh...something is lacking...sense of warmth,
        tenderness...*something.*
 .Marti> 
 .Marti> ?
 .Myself> ga marti
 .Marti> I remember babysitting...eons ago...
 .Marti> and found a Playboy mag in the rack...
 .Marti> and was schocked to see a picture of a lady's bare breasts...
 .Marti> Now you see *everything* on TV...
 . why did you loook then Marti?
 .Marti>  you don't really need the mags to get turned on..
 .Myself> actually bare breasts aren't such a shock

  ** GASMAN2 just joined CLE - CENTERFOLD (8 members now) **

 .Marti> Tig...it was fun too look..
 . Hi John
 .Marti> They were 25 years ago, Johnmn...
 . fun? oh ok..
 .Myself> properly presented such pictures can have a very good effect
 .Marti> anyway....I love erotic pictures of men and women making
         love..
 .John> 'evening all.
 .Marti> but greg is right...a lot of the stuff is...
 .Myself> true, but I  was not (fortunately) raised under that way of
          thinking.
 .Marti> just pretty ladies posing nude...no warmth.  GA
 .Myself> agreed on the presentation'
 JOEY> !
 .Myself> 
 .greg> !
 . - signed off -
 .Myself> 
 .Myself> It seems that the general idea back then was to provide a
          sort of shock value
 .Myself> and keep it going - mainly because of the old taboos many
          grew up with
 .Myself> of course it has ceased to shock most folks
 .Myself> ga joey
 JOEY> Well, I only subscribe to one so called mens' magazine.....
 JOEY> And that is Playboy. Because they don't go in for the cheap....
 JOEY> "pink" shots. I agree with Marti on that point. I don't see....
 JOEY> anything sexy about a woman with her legs spread wide open.ga
 .Myself> right on one point, but I  don't think that what they did
          with the miss america pics was a good score for them
 .Myself> ga greg
 .Myself> 
 .greg> when I look at the shots in some of the newer mags, I get the
        feeling that the photographers, deep down, may not like women
        very much...
 .greg> but marti's point is well taken, and john's, too...
 .greg> we're less the buttoned-down society than we were when Playboy
        first hit the racks...
 .greg> the shock value is pretty much gone now...no mystery left,
        really...
 .greg> ga

  ** < just joined CLE - CENTERFOLD (8 members now) **

 .<> hi
 JOEY> rehi
 .Marti> Welcome back E
 .Connie> 
 .Marti> 
 .Myself> 
 .<> So what's been decided??? Only we WARPPED people buy those
            nasty magazines? [:grin:]
 .Myself> right
 .greg> ga
 .Myself> ok, so much for the pics - some of which are well done, and
          others
 .<> Oh I MISSED the PICTURES??????
 .Myself> leave much to be desired. so what other reason is there to
          buy?
 .John> If you will excuse me , I will take exception to that piont.
 .Myself> ga john
 .John> ga?
 .<> ga=go
 .Myself> ga == go ahead = otherwise
 .Myself> your on!
 .<> me next!
 .Myself> 
 .greg> - signed off -
 .Myself> gregs node is shutting down
 .John> oh my goodness! a captive audience!!! Just wanted to say that
        all who buy such mags are not "kooks".
 .Myself> 
 .Myself> ellen ga
 .Dick> - signed off -
 .<> ok
 .<> I don't have any idea what has BEEN said..
 .<> But (even tho I AM a bit of a kook) I do buy and read and
            enjoy them...
 .<> but...
 .John> - signed off -
 .<> (hmmm is it my perfume?)...
 JOEY> yes.
 .Myself> no - the system -
 .Marti> 
 .<> what I was going to say is I really DON'T like...
 .Myself> either the networks or some interconnecting node.
 .<> is the GYN shots...am interested in knowing if the guys
            *really* do?
 .Myself> 
 .Marti> GYN?
 .Myself> actually, I think the booze ought to be left out -
 .<> The ones that look like they're on an Obstriticians table
            Marti [:grin:]
 .Marti> I agree Ellen...already mentioned that.
 JOEY> I don't ellen.
 .Myself> I recall one picture rather well enough done, she was all
          wet and glistening in the warm sun
 .Myself> and there nearby was the bottle, suggesting that she was
          covered with the stuff
 .<> Well John Obviously YOU were able to put yourself IN thu
            picture (mentally)...
 .Myself> actually, not really
 .Myself> the booze was a real turn off
 .<> I think the ones a little less descriptive are MUCH sexier
 .<> ^^^MY opinion
 .Myself> and the wide angle shots () don't do all that much for me
          either
 .Myself> must be getting old
 .<> No smart
 .<> and a little more selective [:grin:]
 .Marti> ?
 .Myself> I used to read the letters too - but there were a number of
          things that cured me there.
 .Myself> ga marti
 .Marti> Do men actually find women's genitals beautiful to look
         at??....
 .Marti> I know they want to get into them but...
 .Marti> do they actually like to look at them?...
 .<> some are
 .Marti> just wondering GA
 JOEY> !
 .Myself> I  do, but only in the context of the whole body..
 .<> depends on WHO it's attatched to [:grin:]
 .Myself> all by themselves - yuk
 .Marti> 
 JOEY> !!
 .Myself> no ellen, no letters abt me or even by me
 .Myself> ga joey
 .<> hahha
 JOEY> I was going to say the same thing Ellen did....
 .Myself> 
 .Myself> namely?
 JOEY> it depends on the person attached to.
 .Myself> right...
 JOEY> never John.
 .Myself> huh??
 .<> You gotta love the whole person for it to be beautiful
 .Marti> never?
 JOEY> If it is a person you care greatly about. then they will be
       beautiful.
 .Myself> exactly
 JOEY> ga
 .<> bingo
 .Marti> 
 .Myself> anyway...
 .<> :::thinking:::
 .<> ?
 .Myself> I got tired of reading all about how these two or three or
          more got together and invariably started out withdope, or
          booze or something.
 .Myself> i mean, I can get high enough on my own, and those other
          things simply kill the best part of the experience
 .Myself> but anesthetising your sensory system or worse.
 JOEY> - signed off -
 .Myself> then there was one letter I read three times.
 .Myself> no it wasn't that good.
 .Myself> it just appeared as a new letter in three magazines over the
          space of several years.
 .<> Must have been impressive tho if you remembered it
 .Myself> which only shows that at least some are outright
          fabrications.
 .Myself> true. if only for the basic recurrent theme
 .<> SOME?????? Most would be closer...but I enjoy them as
            fiction
 .Myself> you always get fucked no nmatter what you do.
 .Myself> basic story line in brief...
 .Myself> man sets out to seek the great meaning of life

  ** JOEY just joined CLE - CENTERFOLD (5 members now) **

 JOEY> Whew!
 .Connie> 
 .Myself> along the way he takes up with three women
 .Marti> Hug, Joey
 .Myself> whose husbands are away
 .Myself> they have a good time but he strikes out on his quest
 .Myself> eventually he takes up with the great hermit he was seeking
          only to find out that he is a dirty old man who likes to
          give it to guys
 JOEY> 
 .<> wunnerful
 .<> Glad I missed that one
 .Myself> dis-illusioned, he returns to the women with whom he
          realized he had had such a great time only to find that
          their husbands had rteturned and killed them for their
          unfaithfulness
 .Myself> and now they like to give it to males.
 .Myself> and the rest is 'his'tory.
 JOEY> 
 .<> Oh that's a thrilling story John (urk)
 JOEY> Is there a full moon tonight?
 .Myself> well, that is the only reason I recognized it several years
 .Myself> after reading it the first time.
 .<> Well on that note I'm goin back to work bye yawl!
            xXkissesXx ((hugs)) **fuzzies**
 .Myself> night ellen
 JOEY> Nite, Ellen.
 .<> enjoyed!
 .<> - signed off -
 .Myself> it speaks not well at all of people and their sexual values
 .Myself> and is realy a downer more than anything else.
 .Myself> and there was one other that was a totally impossible
          situation I read that one in two mags several years apart.
 .Myself> girl goes out with some guys from the office and ends up
 .Myself> literally with something everywhere. and no way it could
          happen.
 JOEY> Fun office.
 .Myself> right
 JOEY> Not enough room in my office.
 .Myself> there was one I  thought was cute tho
 .Myself> this guy has his girl in the computer room
 .Myself> and they do it on top or an 80M-byte drive
 .Myself> of course some gets into the system and the disk crashes
          with a horendous screech. but they had fun
 .Myself> I have noticed an overall trend though of very poor writing.
 .Myself> some of then sound almost dumb enough to be true, but not
          interesting
 .Myself> ok, that covers letters, and pictures - now ladies, care to
          comment
 .Myself> 
 .Marti> I like you talking, John
 .Myself> If I  keep it up, u'll all be asleep b 4 me.
 JOEY> Connie hasn't commented.
 .Connie> too tired to comment, Joey.
 JOEY> Why, Rod's not there.(grin)
 .Connie> I know!  but this has been a very long work day.
 .Myself> neither am I - so what?
 JOEY> You mean if you were there, *I* would have to run this co?
 .Myself> not necessarily
 JOEY> Oh. whew!
 .Myself> I have this assistant I've been training. works real cheep
          too
 JOEY> hehehe
 .Connie> oh?
 .Myself> problem is,  Ii can only have m during the off season at the
          zoo.
 JOEY> Probably works for peanuts.
 .Myself> no, he eats bananas.
 .Myself> but he generally just hangs around the trees in the yard.
 .Myself> names  Curious George.  maybe you've heard abt him?
 JOEY> Not me.
 .Connie> sorry everyone but I have to go - seeya later!
 .