Beaumont, Richard 1a 2a

Birth Name Beaumont, Richard
Gender male
Age at Death unknown

Narrative

The following is a post to SGM, 16 Jan 2002, by Rosie Bevan:

From: cbevan@paradise.net.nz (cbevan@paradise.net.nz)
Subject: Joan de Beaumont
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-01-16 15:05:03 PST

Recently it has been shown by John Ravilious that Joan de Beaumont, da of Richard Beaumont of Witnesham, and wife of Giles de Brewse d.1311, was also wife of Edmund Bacon who died in 1337.

The ancestry of Joan has been something of a puzzle, but today I came across a possible placing for her through information from W.A.Copinger, The Manors of Suffolk, (Fisher-Unwin,1905) v.1. Unfortunately this volume does not cover Witnesham, but it appears that the Beaumont, or Bellomonte family, had interests in other manors in Suffolk - namely a third share of Groton and Semere, Levenya Strattons manor in Assington and possibly Boxfield.

These were held by Godfrey de Bellomonte who died without issue in 1293 and was succeeded by his brother Sir John Bellomonte who died in 1297, leaving a widow Alice. He was succeeded by his son Richard Bellomonte, who held in 1299. Chronologically it is possible that Joan is daughter of this Richard.

A full pedigree of the descendants of Robert Cokefield (d. temp. Richard I), is shown on p.111 and includes that of Sir John Bellomonte which is reproduced below.

1.Robert de Cokefield
2.Gunnora de Cokefield=William Drayton
3.Alicia de Drayton=William de Bellomonte 8 John [1206/7]
4.William de Bellomonte of Drayton=Alicia da. and coh. of Fulco d'Oyri
5.Godfrey de Bellomonte d.s.p.=Cecilia de Ferrers s.[sister?] and h of Hugo de Ferrers s. of William E. of Derby
5.John de Bellomonte

If Joan was a descendant of Sir John de Bellomonte, it is difficult to tell by the devolution of the above manors, as their history afterwards as given by Copinger is rather patchy. Hopefully the above may help in uncovering further information about the Beaumonts.

Cheers

Rosie

- - - - - - Rosied then added in a post 21 Mar 2003:

I have since come across information that the de Beaumonts also held a manor in Salle, the parish where the Brewes family owned the manor of Stainton. Salle had 4-5 manorial properties in the 1300s.

 

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth 1260 Witnesham, Woodbridge, Suffolk, England   3a
Death        

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Beaumont, John12351298-09-24
Mother 12351290
         Beaumont, Richard 1260

Families

Family of Beaumont, Richard and , Alice
Unknown Partner , Alice ( * 1263 + ... )
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Beaumont, Joan12891311

Pedigree

  1. Beaumont, John
      1. Beaumont, Richard
        1. , Alice
          1. Beaumont, Joan

Source References

  1. G. E Cokayne: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom
      • Page: Page: II:305
  2. Eileen McKinnon-Suggs: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=emsuggs&id=I61530 Our Kingdom Come
      • Source text:

        ID: I61530
        Name: Richard Beaumont
        Given Name: Richard
        Surname: Beaumont
        Suffix: Of Witnesham 1 2
        Name: Richard De Bello Monte
        Given Name: Richard De
        Surname: Bello Monte
        Suffix: Of Witnesham
        Title: Of Witnesham
        Sex: M
        Birth: Abt 1260 in Witnesham, Woodbridge, Suffolk, England
        Death: 16 Feb 1310-1311
        Event: Alt. Death Alt. Death Aft 1306 3
        Change Date: 24 Jun 2003 at 08:06
        Note:
        The following is a post to SGM, 16 Jan 2002, by Rosie Bevan:

        From: cbevan@paradise.net.nz (cbevan@paradise.net.nz)
        Subject: Joan de Beaumont
        Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
        Date: 2002-01-16 15:05:03 PST

        Recently it has been shown by John Ravilious that Joan de Beaumont, da of Richard Beaumont of Witnesham, and wife of Giles de Brewse d.1311, was also wife of Edmund Bacon who died in 1337.

        The ancestry of Joan has been something of a puzzle, but today I came across a possible placing for her through information from W.A.Copinger, The Manors of Suffolk, (Fisher-Unwin,1905) v.1. Unfortunately this volume does not cover Witnesham, but it appears that the Beaumont, or Bellomonte family, had interests in other manors in Suffolk - namely a third share of Groton and Semere, Levenya Strattons manor in Assington and possibly Boxfield.

        These were held by Godfrey de Bellomonte who died without issue in 1293 and was succeeded by his brother Sir John Bellomonte who died in 1297, leaving a widow Alice. He was succeeded by his son Richard Bellomonte, who held in 1299. Chronologically it is possible that Joan is daughter of this Richard.

        A full pedigree of the descendants of Robert Cokefield (d. temp. Richard I), is shown on p.111 and includes that of Sir John Bellomonte which is reproduced below.

        1.Robert de Cokefield
        2.Gunnora de Cokefield=William Drayton
        3.Alicia de Drayton=William de Bellomonte 8 John [1206/7]
        4.William de Bellomonte of Drayton=Alicia da. and coh. of Fulco d'Oyri
        5.Godfrey de Bellomonte d.s.p.=Cecilia de Ferrers s.[sister?] and h of Hugo de Ferrers s. of William E. of Derby
        5.John de Bellomonte

        If Joan was a descendant of Sir John de Bellomonte, it is difficult to tell by the devolution of the above manors, as their history afterwards as given by Copinger is rather patchy. Hopefully the above may help in uncovering further information about the Beaumonts.

        Cheers

        Rosie

        - - - - - - Rosied then added in a post 21 Mar 2003:

        I have since come across information that the de Beaumonts also held a manor in Salle, the parish where the Brewes family owned the manor of Stainton. Salle had 4-5 manorial properties in the 1300s.

         

        Father: John Beaumont b: Abt 1235 in Drayton, Hellesden, Norfolk, England
        Mother: Unknown First Wife b: Abt 1235 in England

        Marriage 1 Alice (Nmn-Richard) Beaumont b: Abt 1263 in England
        Married:
        Change Date: 22 May 2004
        Children
        Joan Beaumont b: Abt 1289 in Witnesham, Woodbridge, Suffolk, England

        Sources:
        Abbrev: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
        Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
        Date: 2000
        Page: II:305
        Quality: 3
        Abbrev: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Date: 8 Dec 2000
        Page: Rosie Bevan, 16 Jan 2002
        Quality: 3
        Abbrev: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Date: 8 Dec 2000
        Page: Rosie Bevan, 12 Jun 2003
        Quality: 3

         

      • Citation:

        suggs16@msn.com

  3. Holly Forrest Tamer: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=hollye&id=I16858
      • Source text:

        ID: I16858
        Name: *@Richard Beaumont
        Sex: M
        Birth: ABT 1260 in Witnesham, Woodbridge, Suffolk, England
        Note: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
        Note: Page: II:305
        Change Date: 4 SEP 2007

        Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
        Children
        *@Joan Beaumont b: ABT 1289 in Witnesham, Woodbridge, Suffolk, England

         

      • Citation:

        holly_tamer@yahoo.com