Engaine, John 1a

Birth Name Engaine, John
Gender male
Age at Death 65 years, 4 days

Narrative

John Engaine, whose other brothers, Vitalis and William, had died sine prole. He married Joane, daughter of Henry Grey, and died 1296. They had sons John and Nicholas. In the time of King John the Manor of Hunsdon, which before the Conquest belonged to Alvin Godstone, belonged to Sir Walter Montgomery (grandfather of this John Engaine). On the 17th of Oct., 1216, just two days before the death of King John, a writ was directed to the Constable of the County of Hertford, that he should give seisin of his lands in the Parish of Hunsdon, or Hanesdon, to Sir Walter Montgomery, the Knight of the Earl of Ferrers, which he had before the war. and was disseised by occasion thereof. A co-heir of the honour of Montgomery married Vitalis Engaine. In 33rd of Henry III (1249) it was found that Vitalis Engaine held the Manor of Hunsdon, of William de Bellocampo, of Bedford, and that Henry Engaine was his heir and aged 30 years and upwards; and at the inquisition, 56th of Henry III, it was found that Henry Engaine's brother Sir Dominus John Engaine was his heir and now aged 44 years. This John Engaine in the 22nd of Edward I, 1295, was in an expedition into Gascoigne and died seized of the Manor of Hundson, and others in the counties of Northampton, Essex and Huntingdon, on nones of January, 1297, and left his son John, aged 30, his heir, who was summoned to Parliament from 1297 to 1320, but he died sine prole Oct. 3, 1322, and was succeeded by his brother, Nicholas.
(Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith, page 763-764)

 

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth 1232 North Elmsall, Yorkshire, England   2
Event Note

B: BET 1232 AND 1295
P: NORTH ELMSALL, YORKSHIRE OR LAXTON, NORTHAMPTONSHIRE, ENGLAND

Death 1297-01-05     3

Age: 65y

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Engaine, Vitalis12001248-10-22
Mother de Montgomery, Roesia12051248
         Engaine, John 1232 1297-01-05
    Brother     Engaine, William 1242
    Brother     Engaine, Vitalis
    Brother     Engaine, Henry

Families

Family of Engaine, John and Greinville, Joan
Unknown Partner Greinville, Joan ( * 1236 + 1305-11-02 )
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Engaine, Joyce1260
Engaine, John1267
Engaine, Joan12691315-06-01
Engaine, Nicholas12701322-12-10

Source References

  1. RCKarnes: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=arciek&id=I01168 Carrie's Family Tree
      • Source text:

        ID: I01168
        Name: *John ENGAINE
        Sex: M
        Birth: 1205 1
        Death: 1296 2
        Change Date: 4 OCT 2004
        Note:
        John Engaine, whose other brothers, Vitalis and William, had died sine prole. He married Joane, daughter of Henry Grey, and died 1296. They had sons John and Nicholas. In the time of King John the Manor of Hunsdon, which before the Conquest belonged to Alvin Godstone, belonged to Sir Walter Montgomery (grandfather of this John Engaine). On the 17th of Oct., 1216, just two days before the death of King John, a writ was directed to the Constable of the County of Hertford, that he should give seisin of his lands in the Parish of Hunsdon, or Hanesdon, to Sir Walter Montgomery, the Knight of the Earl of Ferrers, which he had before the war. and was disseised by occasion thereof. A co-heir of the honour of Montgomery married Vitalis Engaine. In 33rd of Henry III (1249) it was found that Vitalis Engaine held the Manor of Hunsdon, of William de Bellocampo, of Bedford, and that Henry Engaine was his heir and aged 30 years and upwards; and at the inquisition, 56th of Henry III, it was found that Henry Engaine's brother Sir Dominus John Engaine was his heir and now aged 44 years. This John Engaine in the 22nd of Edward I, 1295, was in an expedition into Gascoigne and died seized of the Manor of Hundson, and others in the counties of Northampton, Essex and Huntingdon, on nones of January, 1297, and left his son John, aged 30, his heir, who was summoned to Parliament from 1297 to 1320, but he died sine prole Oct. 3, 1322, and was succeeded by his brother, Nicholas.
        (Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith, page 763-764)

         

         

         

        Father: *Vitalis ENGAINE
        Mother: Roesia DE MONTGOMERY

        Marriage 1 Joan GREINVILLE b: 1236 in Hallaton, Uppingham, Leicestershire, England
        Children
        *Joyce ENGAINE b: 1260 in Colne Engaine, Essex, England
        John ENGAINE b: 1267 in Colne Engaine, Essex, England
        *Joan ENGAINE b: 1269 in Colne Engaine, Essex, England
        *Nicholas ENGAINE b: 1270 in Colne Engaine, Essex, England

        Sources:
        Title: Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith
        Page: 764
        Title: Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith
        Page: 763

         

      • Citation:

        arciek@juno.com

  2. RCKarnes: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=arciek&id=I28295&style=TABLE Carrie's Family Tree
  3. Bruce: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=pusch&id=I112008&style=TABLE @ RootsWeb Bruce Cooley Pusch