Lisle, Margaret 1 2a

Birth Name Lisle, Margaret
Gender female
Age at Death 32 years, 2 months, 19 days

Narrative

Margaret, Baroness Lisle, b. 1360, d. 20 Mar 1391/2, daughter of Warin de Lisle, Lord Lisle. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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Her death date given above is based on CP II:131, which was corrected by CP XIV:87 to agree with CP VIII:54, which is "between May and September 1392".

----------------------------------------BARONY OF LISLE (III)

MARGARET LISLE, according to modern doctrine suo jure BARONESS LISLE of Kingston Lisle and BARONESS TEYES, daughter and heir by 1st wife, being heir of her father after her brother Gerard's death. She was aged 22 and more at her father's death, and 30 and more at the death of her stepmother. She married, in November 1367, at Wingrave, Bucks, when aged about 7, Thomas BERKELEY, son of Maurice, LORD BERKELEY, by Elizabeth, daughter of Hugh DESPENSER the younger, LORD DESPENSER,[e] which
Thomas succeeded his father as LORD BERKELEY 8 June 1368. On 7 July 1379 Thomas and Margaret had a Papal indult for a portable altar. On 30 November 1381 it was agreed between Thomas, Lord Berkeley, and Warin, Lord Lisle, that Margaret wife of Thomas and daughter of Warin should have all Warin's lands; Warin to come and go and dwell at Berkeley Castle, enjoying free hunting and fishing; he and Thomas to travel together in all wars; and the issue of Thomas and Margaret to bear and use the arms of Lisle after Warin's death. They had livery of her stepmother's dower 29 May 1392. She died between May and September 1392, and was buried at Wotton-under-Edge, co. Gloucester. He died sp.m. 13 July 1417, and was buried at Wotton.The brasses remain, but are without inscription. [Complete Peerage VIII:53-4

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[e] On account of Margaret's youth it had been agreed that they should remain apart for four years. "The sicknes of the lord Maurice Berkeley increasing, notwithstanding the former agreement [Wednesday after Trinity 41 Edw. III] of fower years stay: they were by his request maryed at the said lord Lisle his house at Wengrave in Buckinghamshire in November next following And being himself unable to travell to his sons marriage sent with his son to attend him three of his houshold nights. Sir Richard de Acton, Sr John Tracy and St Nicholas de Berkeley, and 23 of his houshold Esquiers (all named in his houshold accompt;) The Knights were suted in their liveries of fine cloth of ray furred with miniver, And the Esquires n their liveries of coarser ray and less costly furre: And the young bridgegroom himself was in scarlet and sattin and a silver girdle And the lord Maurice himselfe that kept home, infirmed in body, in honor notwithstanding of the mariage, ade himself a sute de panno deaurato, which I think I may English, cloth of gold; And at the day of the solemmization of the marriage, Sr Richard de Acton gave the minstrels fourty shillings . . . The lord Thomas bringeth his wife the lady Margaret to Berkeley about the fifth of Richard the second, whom her said father accompanyeth." (J. Smyth, Berkeley MSS. (Bristol and Glos. Arch.Soc.), vol. ii, pp, 2, 3, 4) Smyth describes the wife as "a very mild and devout lady but nothing active in her family."

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The Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999 Page: 80-8

Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Page: VIII:53-4, II:131

 

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth 1359 Kingston Lisle, Berkshire, England   1
Death 1391-03-20     2b
Event Note

D: 20 Mar 1391/1392

Age: 32y

Burial   Wotton-Underedge, England    

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father de Lisle, Warin13301382-06-28
Mother Pipard, Margaret13301375-08-03
         Lisle, Margaret 1359 1391-03-20

Families

Family of de Berkeley, Thomas and Lisle, Margaret
Married Husband de Berkeley, Thomas ( * 1352-01-05 + 1417-07-13 )
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Marriage 1367-11-00 Wingrave, Buckinghamshire, England   1
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
de Berkeley, Elizabeth13751422-12-28

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        ID: I16415
        Name: *Margaret Lisle
        Sex: F
        Birth: ABT 1359 in Kingston Lisle,Berkshire,England
        Death: 20 MAR 1391/1392
        Burial: Wotton-Underedge,England
        Note: Margaret, Baroness Lisle, b. 1360, d. 20 Mar 1391/2, daughter of Warin de Lisle, Lord Lisle. [Magna Charta Sureties]
        Note: Her death date given above is based on CP II:131, which was corrected by CP XIV:87 to agree with CP VIII:54, which is "between May and September 1392".
        Note: ----------------------------------------BARONY OF LISLE (III)
        Note:
        MARGARET LISLE, according to modern doctrine suo jure BARONESS LISLE of Kingston Lisle and BARONESS TEYES, daughter and heir by 1st wife, being heir of her father after her brother Gerard's death. She was aged 22 and more at her father's death,
        and 30 and more at the death of her stepmother. She married, in November 1367, at Wingrave, Bucks, when aged about 7, Thomas BERKELEY, son of Maurice, LORD BERKELEY, by Elizabeth, daughter of Hugh DESPENSER the younger, LORD DESPENSER,[e] which
        Note:
        Thomas succeeded his father as LORD BERKELEY 8 June 1368. On 7 July 1379 Thomas and Margaret had a Papal indult for a portable altar. On 30 November 1381 it was agreed between Thomas, Lord Berkeley, and Warin, Lord Lisle, that Margaret wife of
        Thomas and daughter of Warin should have all Warin's lands; Warin to come and go and dwell at Berkeley Castle, enjoying free hunting and fishing; he and Thomas to travel together in all wars; and the issue of Thomas and Margaret to bear and use
        Note:
        the arms of Lisle after Warin's death. They had livery of her stepmother's dower 29 May 1392. She died between May and September 1392, and was buried at Wotton-under-Edge, co. Gloucester. He died sp.m. 13 July 1417, and was buried at Wotton.The
        brasses remain, but are without inscription. [Complete Peerage VIII:53-4
        Note: [e] On account of Margaret's youth it had been agreed that they should remain apart for four years. "The sicknes of the lord Maurice Berkeley increasing, notwithstanding the former agreement [Wednesday after Trinity 41 Edw. III] of fower years
        Note:
        stay: they were by his request maryed at the said lord Lisle his house at Wengrave in Buckinghamshire in November next following And being himself unable to travell to his sons marriage sent with his son to attend him three of his houshold
        Knights. Sir Richard de Acton, Sr John Tracy and St Nicholas de Berkeley, and 23 of his houshold Esquiers (all named in his houshold accompt;) The Knights were suted in their liveries of fine cloth of ray furred with miniver, And the Esquires
        in their liveries of coarser ray and less costly furre: And the young bridgegroom himself was in scarlet and sattin and a silver girdle And the lord Maurice himselfe that kept home, infirmed in body, in honor notwithstanding of the mariage,
        made himself a sute de panno deaurato, which I think I may English, cloth of gold; And at the day of the solemmization of the marriage, Sr Richard de Acton gave the minstrels fourty shillings . . . The lord Thomas bringeth his wife the lady
        Margaret to Berkeley about the fifth of Richard the second, whom her said father accompanyeth." (J. Smyth, Berkeley MSS. (Bristol and Glos. Arch.Soc.), vol. ii, pp, 2, 3, 4) Smyth describes the wife as "a very mild and devout lady but nothing
        Note: active in her family."
        Note: The Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999 Page: 80-8
        Note: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
        Note: Page: VIII:53-4, II:131
        Change Date: 27 JUL 2007

        Father: *Warin de Lisle b: 1330 in Kingston Lisle,England
        Mother: *Margaret Pipard b: ABT 1330 in Berkshire,England

        Marriage 1 *Thomas (the Magnificent) de Berkeley b: 5 JAN 1352/1353 in Berkeley,England
        Married: NOV 1367 in Wingrave,Buckinghamshire,England
        Children
        *Elizabeth de Berkeley b: ABT 1385 in Abergavenny,Wales

         

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      • Source text:

        ID: I16415
        Name: *Margaret Lisle
        Sex: F
        Birth: ABT 1359 in Kingston Lisle,Berkshire,England
        Death: 20 MAR 1391/1392
        Burial: Wotton-Underedge,England
        Note: Margaret, Baroness Lisle, b. 1360, d. 20 Mar 1391/2, daughter of Warin de Lisle, Lord Lisle. [Magna Charta Sureties]
        Note: Her death date given above is based on CP II:131, which was corrected by CP XIV:87 to agree with CP VIII:54, which is "between May and September 1392".
        Note: ----------------------------------------BARONY OF LISLE (III)
        Note:
        MARGARET LISLE, according to modern doctrine suo jure BARONESS LISLE of Kingston Lisle and BARONESS TEYES, daughter and heir by 1st wife, being heir of her father after her brother Gerard's death. She was aged 22 and more at her father's death,
        and 30 and more at the death of her stepmother. She married, in November 1367, at Wingrave, Bucks, when aged about 7, Thomas BERKELEY, son of Maurice, LORD BERKELEY, by Elizabeth, daughter of Hugh DESPENSER the younger, LORD DESPENSER,[e] which
        Note:
        Thomas succeeded his father as LORD BERKELEY 8 June 1368. On 7 July 1379 Thomas and Margaret had a Papal indult for a portable altar. On 30 November 1381 it was agreed between Thomas, Lord Berkeley, and Warin, Lord Lisle, that Margaret wife of
        Thomas and daughter of Warin should have all Warin's lands; Warin to come and go and dwell at Berkeley Castle, enjoying free hunting and fishing; he and Thomas to travel together in all wars; and the issue of Thomas and Margaret to bear and use
        Note:
        the arms of Lisle after Warin's death. They had livery of her stepmother's dower 29 May 1392. She died between May and September 1392, and was buried at Wotton-under-Edge, co. Gloucester. He died sp.m. 13 July 1417, and was buried at Wotton.The
        brasses remain, but are without inscription. [Complete Peerage VIII:53-4
        Note: [e] On account of Margaret's youth it had been agreed that they should remain apart for four years. "The sicknes of the lord Maurice Berkeley increasing, notwithstanding the former agreement [Wednesday after Trinity 41 Edw. III] of fower years
        Note:
        stay: they were by his request maryed at the said lord Lisle his house at Wengrave in Buckinghamshire in November next following And being himself unable to travell to his sons marriage sent with his son to attend him three of his houshold
        Knights. Sir Richard de Acton, Sr John Tracy and St Nicholas de Berkeley, and 23 of his houshold Esquiers (all named in his houshold accompt;) The Knights were suted in their liveries of fine cloth of ray furred with miniver, And the Esquires
        in their liveries of coarser ray and less costly furre: And the young bridgegroom himself was in scarlet and sattin and a silver girdle And the lord Maurice himselfe that kept home, infirmed in body, in honor notwithstanding of the mariage,
        made himself a sute de panno deaurato, which I think I may English, cloth of gold; And at the day of the solemmization of the marriage, Sr Richard de Acton gave the minstrels fourty shillings . . . The lord Thomas bringeth his wife the lady
        Margaret to Berkeley about the fifth of Richard the second, whom her said father accompanyeth." (J. Smyth, Berkeley MSS. (Bristol and Glos. Arch.Soc.), vol. ii, pp, 2, 3, 4) Smyth describes the wife as "a very mild and devout lady but nothing
        Note: active in her family."
        Note: The Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999 Page: 80-8
        Note: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
        Note: Page: VIII:53-4, II:131
        Change Date: 27 JUL 2007

        Father: *Warin de Lisle b: 1330 in Kingston Lisle,England
        Mother: *Margaret Pipard b: ABT 1330 in Berkshire,England

        Marriage 1 *Thomas (the Magnificent) de Berkeley b: 5 JAN 1352/1353 in Berkeley,England
        Married: NOV 1367 in Wingrave,Buckinghamshire,England
        Children
        *Elizabeth de Berkeley b: ABT 1385 in Abergavenny,Wales

         

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