de Braose, John 1a 2 3a

Birth Name de Braose, John
Nick Name Tadody
Gender male
Age at Death 35 years, 6 months, 17 days

Narrative

John de Braose, called Tadody (1198-July 18, 1232) was the Welsh Marches lord of Bramber and Gower. He was the eldest son of William de Braose (himself son of William de Braose, Fourth Lord of Bramber) and Matilda de Clare, the daughter of Richard de Clare, 4th Earl of Hertford.
John was nicknamed Tadody ("fatherless" in Welsh) after his father was starved to death in 1210 on the orders of King John I of England. At first he was hidden in Gower, but finally in 1214 his guardian surrendered John and his younger brother Philip. In June 1215 John was present for the signing of the Magna Carta. He was released from custody in 1218, having spent some time with his uncle Giles, Bishop of Hertford.

Much of his adult life was spent in disputes with relatives over his inheritance. In 1219 he married Marared, the daughter of Llywelyn Fawr, and received Gower as her dowry. In 1226 his uncle Reginald de Braose sold him Bramber, and he inherited still more when this uncle died a few years later. He and Marared had three sons, including his heir, William.

In 1232 John was killed in a fall from his horse.
(Wikipedia)

Nicknamed "Tadody" by the Welsh when he was hidden in Gower as a child after King John had killed his father and grandmother, he was later in the custody of Engelard de Cigogny (castellan of Windsor) along with his brother Giles. Cigogny was ordered to give the two boys up to William de Harcourt in 1214. At this time John became separated from his brother. He was present at the signing of Magna Carta in 1215.

John disputed his uncle Reginald's claim to the Braose lands, sometimes resorting to arms. Llywelyn helped him to secure Gower (1219). In 1221, with the advice and permission of Llewelyn, he repaired his castle of Abertawy (Swansea, right) or Seinhenydd. He purchased the Rape of Bramber from Reginald and his son, William, in 1226. In that year John confirmed the family gifts to Sele Priory, near Bramber, and to the Abbey of St. Florent, Saumur, and added others. After the death of Reginald (1228) he became Lord of Skenfrith, Grosmont and Whitecastle, the three Marcher castles, by charter from the king but he lost these in 1230 to Hugh de Burgh at the same time as Gower became a subtenancy of de Burgh's Honour of Carmarthen and Cardigan.

John was killed by a fall from his horse at Bramber in 1232.
(http://freespace.virgin.net/doug.thompson/BraoseWeb/John.htm)

 

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth 1197 Brembye, Sussex, England   4
Event Note

B: 1198
P: Gower, Glamorganshire, Wales
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=arciek&id=I27197&style=TABLE

Death 1232-07-18 Brembye, Sussex, England   4

Cause: Fell from a horse.

Age: 35y

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father de Braose, William IV11751211-08-09
Mother de Clare, Matilda11801249
    Sister     de Braose, Maude 1196
         de Braose, John 1197 1232-07-18

Families

Family of de Braose, John and Llwelyn, Margred Verch

Married Wife Llwelyn, Margred Verch ( * 1210 + 1263 )
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Marriage 1219 Wales   4
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
de Braose, John1222
de Braose, William VI1224-07-151291-01-06
de Braose, Llywelyn1225
de Braose, Richard12321292-07-18

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        ID: I24153
        Name: John de Braose
        Given Name: John
        Surname: de Braose
        Suffix: Lord Gower & Swansea
        Nickname: Tadody
        Sex: M
        _UID: AAA1A7EAFD50D811BE490080C8C142CC308A
        Change Date: 27 Dec 2004 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
        Birth: ABT 1197 in of Brembye, Sussex 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 8
        Death: of Fall from horse. 18 JUL 1232 in Brembye, Sussex, England 1 6 2 5 3 4 16 8 8

        Father: William IV de Braose b: 1175 in of Bramber, Sussex, England
        Mother: Matilda de Clare b: ABT 1180 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

        Marriage 1 Margaret ferch Llewelyn b: BET 1202 AND 1208
        Married: 1219 in Wales 1 6 2 5 3 4 17 8
        Children
        William VI de Braose b: BEF 15 JUL 1224
        John de Braose b: 1232
        William De Braose b: 1255 in Bramber, Sussex, England
        Richard de Braose b: ABT 1232 in of Stainton, Norfolk

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  3. RCKarnes: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=arciek&id=I11229 Carrie's Family Tree
      • Source text:

        ID: I11229
        Name: *John DE BRAOSE
        Sex: M
        Birth: 1198 in Gower, Glamorganshire, Wales 1
        Death: 18 JUL 1232 1
        Note:
        John de Braose, called Tadody (1198-July 18, 1232) was the Welsh Marches lord of Bramber and Gower. He was the eldest son of William de Braose (himself son of William de Braose, Fourth Lord of Bramber) and Matilda de Clare, the daughter of Richard de Clare, 4th Earl of Hertford.
        John was nicknamed Tadody ("fatherless" in Welsh) after his father was starved to death in 1210 on the orders of King John I of England. At first he was hidden in Gower, but finally in 1214 his guardian surrendered John and his younger brother Philip. In June 1215 John was present for the signing of the Magna Carta. He was released from custody in 1218, having spent some time with his uncle Giles, Bishop of Hertford.

        Much of his adult life was spent in disputes with relatives over his inheritance. In 1219 he married Marared, the daughter of Llywelyn Fawr, and received Gower as her dowry. In 1226 his uncle Reginald de Braose sold him Bramber, and he inherited still more when this uncle died a few years later. He and Marared had three sons, including his heir, William.

        In 1232 John was killed in a fall from his horse.
        (Wikipedia)

        Nicknamed "Tadody" by the Welsh when he was hidden in Gower as a child after King John had killed his father and grandmother, he was later in the custody of Engelard de Cigogny (castellan of Windsor) along with his brother Giles. Cigogny was ordered to give the two boys up to William de Harcourt in 1214. At this time John became separated from his brother. He was present at the signing of Magna Carta in 1215.

        John disputed his uncle Reginald's claim to the Braose lands, sometimes resorting to arms. Llywelyn helped him to secure Gower (1219). In 1221, with the advice and permission of Llewelyn, he repaired his castle of Abertawy (Swansea, right) or Seinhenydd. He purchased the Rape of Bramber from Reginald and his son, William, in 1226. In that year John confirmed the family gifts to Sele Priory, near Bramber, and to the Abbey of St. Florent, Saumur, and added others. After the death of Reginald (1228) he became Lord of Skenfrith, Grosmont and Whitecastle, the three Marcher castles, by charter from the king but he lost these in 1230 to Hugh de Burgh at the same time as Gower became a subtenancy of de Burgh's Honour of Carmarthen and Cardigan.

        John was killed by a fall from his horse at Bramber in 1232.
        (http://freespace.virgin.net/doug.thompson/BraoseWeb/John.htm)

         

        Father: *William DE BRAOSE b: ABT 1176 in Bramber, Sussex, England
        Mother: *Maud (Matilda) DE CLARE b: 1184 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

        Marriage 1 *Margred Verch LLYWELYN b: ABT 1198 in Caernarvonshire, Wales
        Married: 1219
        Children
        *William DE BRAOSE b: 1220 in Bramber, Sussex, England
        John DE BRAOSE b: 1222 in Bramber, Sussex, England
        Llywelyn DE BRAOSE b: ABT 1225 in Bramber, Sussex, England
        *Richard DE BRAOSE b: 1230 in Bramber, Sussex, England

        Sources:
        Title: Wikipedia

         

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        arciek@juno.com

  4. David Meier: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=jdp-fam&id=I11377&style=TABLE Royals, Rebels, Presidents, Paupers, Thinkers, and Thieves