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\nFORUM>\n\n188 22-SEP 20:08 Open Forum\n RE: Censorship? (Re: Msg 186)\n From: TROPICAL To: ALL\n \n Greetings... I haven't spoken up here before, but I have been keeping track of\n what's been going on on this sig for a LONG while... The hearings in Washington\n have been of special interest to me since what I do for a living is produce\n records, and any law or legislation restricting what can be bought also\n restricts me from eating. Frank Zappa has been very eloquent of late, and I\n agree with his assessment of the women involved as being bored wives who\n unfortunately receive more press than they are entitled. John is correct in\n that a rating system will not make unconcerned parents 'magically' concerned,\n and that that which is censored becomes more desired. Kids (and you and I) will\n listen to what we like regardless of the packaging - if access to music is to be\n limited, at what point does access to literature follow... anyway, It's good to\n finally have said SOMETHING here, I've felt so vouyer (sp?) istic all these\n months.... Mark.\n \n FORUM> \n \n189 22-SEP 20:32 Poetry\n A quote from Ron Mazur\n From: CABUYS To: ALL\n \n I received this lovely message in a dmail message and am reposting it here to\n share with you:\n \n Life is sometimes a happy trip of intertwining country lanes where joyful\n wanderers keep meeting to share wonderful moments.\n \n FORUM> \n \n190 22-SEP 21:40 Poetry\n RE: A quote from Ron Mazur (Re: Msg 189)\n From: RODM To: CABUYS\n \n The good doctor is a very learned man and is aware of just how generous and\n beautiful life can be.\n \n I certainly am not as qualified as he to illustrate or elaborate but have become\naware that life has for everyone more than they are capable of anticipating and\n when caused to see what treasures can be found by those who will but cherish\n them.\n \n Ecstacy can be found at the end of what may be to others but a drive in the\n country!\n \n Just when life seems to causing you to ask why or why is this hapening to me\n when I don't know how to survive if you remember how that life brought to you in\nthe day or days previous more ecstacy, pleasure, and especially love than you\n ever thought possible and certainly more than ever deserved and delivered it in\n the words, actions, or just from looking into the eyes of a person more\n beautiful than you could expect whose very presence is a treasure undeservingly\n given to you by life.\n \n Think on this and how can you NOT survive! How can you fail! How can you ever\n dare to call life 'unfair' when in fact if life was ONLY fair you would never\n see, have, or hold the many treasures that can be found in life.\n \n I only pray that whoever reads this considers it and begins to realize the truth\nof it\n \n FORUM> \n \n192 22-SEP 23:46 Poetry\n RE: Madonna's poem (Re: Msg 187)\n From: TIGLON To: MADONNA\n \n Libby,\n \n \n I *loved* your poem!! Who is this person in the darkness huh? (grin)\n \n \n Anyway hon..keep it up! We all need to hear more from your pen (and others)\n I am sure!\n \n Tiggy\n \n FORUM> \n \n193 23-SEP 00:25 Play Ground\n Sick Joke\n From: BGS To: ALL\n \n What do you call a person with both Herpes and AIDS?\n\n FORUM> \n \n194 23-SEP 00:26 Play Ground\n RE: Sick Joke (Re: Msg 193)\n From: BGS To: ALL\n \n An incurable romantic.\n \n FORUM> \n \n 195 23-SEP 02:11 General Information\n BBS\n From: SHARC To: ALL\n \n HELLO EVERYONE, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO CALL MY BBS IN PA AT 717-347-0962.\n \nIT IS UP FROM 7:30 PM TO 7:30 AM 7 DAYS. THERE IS A BASE FOR MSGS SUCH AS IN\n THIS SIG AND ALOT MORE. ALSO IF ANYONE WANTS TO CHAT WITH ME I SHOULD BE AROUND\n AND WILL TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT IS ON YOUR MIND.\n SYSOP-SHAWN TIGRETT\n \n \n P.S. HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON......\n \n FORUM> \n\n196 23-SEP 18:23 Poetry\n RE: Madonna's poem (Re: Msg 192)\n From: RODM To: MADONNA\n \n I really want to second tiggy's comment and compliment the capturing and sharing\n \nof what must be an amazing treasure!\n \n Thank you for sharing!\n \n Rod\n \n FORUM> \n \n197 23-SEP 21:43 General Information\n RE: Photo Exchange (Re: Msg 180)\n From: PETEVO To: CABUYS\n \n THAT SOUNDED LIKE A PRETTY HEAVY SIGH CONNIE. I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN AS I'VE BEEN\nBURNED BEFORE BY PEOPLE I'VE TRUSTED.\n \n BUT EITHER I DON'T LEARN BY MY MISTAKES OR I CANNOT BE CONVINCED THAT EVERYONE\n IS LOOKING OUT FOR THEMSELVES, CAUSE I STILL TRUST PEOPLE.\n \n ONE OF MY FAVORITE LINES FROM THE MOVIE SILVERADO IS WHEN PADEN SAYS THAT HE\n FIGURES THAT YOU GOTTA TREAT EVERYONE AS YOUR FRIEND OR YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.\n \n(POSSIBLY MISQUOTED, BUT THE SENTIMENT IS RIGHT).\n \n HANG IN THERE! I'M TRUSTWORTHY AND I AMD STILL CONVINCED THAT OTHERS ARE TOO.\n \n PETE\n \n FORUM> \n \n198 23-SEP 21:51 Open Forum\n RE: Censorship? (Re: Msg 188)\n From: PETEVO To: TROPICAL\n \n TAPE AN ALBUM AND PLAY IT IN THE PRIVACY OF YOUR WALKMAN.\n \n ITS NOT QUITE AS EASY TO XEROX MAGAZINES OR COPY MOVIES. I THINK THE RATING\n SYSTEM WOULD JUST BE AN INEFFECTIVE EXTRA BURDEN ON THE INDUSTRY.\n \n THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LISTEN TO THE RAUNCHY STUFF WILL STILL BE ABLE TO NO\n MATTER WHAT THEIR AGE OR WHAT CONTROLS ARE IN PLACE.\n \n PETE\n \n FORUM> \n \n199 23-SEP 21:57 Open Forum\n RE: Censorship? (Re: Msg 198)\n From: TIGLON To: TROPICAL\n \n I agree with Pete...when was the last time you saw a movie theathre asking for\n ID'S?????\n \n I havent seen that ever in all my early life as a kid or my present life as...\n nevermind..\n \n FORUM> \n \n200 24-SEP 22:27 Play Ground\n RE: Sick Joke (Re: Msg 194)\n From: JOHNMYSELF To: BGS\n \n I hate it!!\n but it is cute. <note hysterical (almost) laughter>\n \n FORUM> \n \n201 24-SEP 23:18 Open Forum\n the great debate <!--??-->\n From: JOHNMYSELF To: ALL\n \n People with good intentions have always been trying\n to 'force' other's to do, or not do, things supposedly\n for their own good.\n \n In the 'old west' the otherwise well meaning (sometimes\n religious) folks were against guns, gambling, loose women\n (and morals), crime, and the ever present 'drink'.\n \n These were all seen as great evils to be fought and discarded\n with the morning trash.\n \n In the (so called) roaring 20's, prohibition, the vain attempt\n to eliminate the use of intoxicating drink, led to a strangle\n hold on the product by organized criminals; as well as a more\n dangerous producer, the home brewer. In many cases, people\n took to making alcoholic drinks without the right materials\n which led to many cases of blindness and death due to lead\n poisoning.\n \n Prohibition (the laws responsible for it) was eventually repealed\n as more sensible people realized the futility of fighting nearly\n everyone and getting nowhere fast.\n \n Now, we still have those folks, often called (sarcastically)\n 'do-godders' and they are still crying about the need to eliminate\n those (still with us) great evils.\n \n Naturally, they have added a few; the movie ratings to keep young\n people from being exposed to sex, violence, and corruption. The\n fight against pornographic materials, 'girly' mags etc. Prostitution\n is still alive and doing well and can even be found in the high class\n neighborhoods.\n \n Drugs can even be found in our grade schools, and the fight continues\n as well it should. On the other hand, while they do try, and\n sometimes produce good results, there are areas they should stay out\n of.\n \n Had they really learned the lesson over prohibition, they would\n realize (?) that. But they evidently didn't. They have the power\n of free choice but instead of exercising their own power to consume\n or not, they prefer to (attempt) to regulate the consumption of\n others.\n \n E.G. They were right to force auto makers to provide seat belts as\n standard safety equipment. On the other hand, the new Mass.\n mandatory seat belt law which could bring fines of $50.00 per\n un-belted person is wrong. Whether or not I buckle up is my choice\n not someone elses. (by the way, I do buckle up - my choice)\n \n The warning on cigarettes and tobacco products is a necessary reminder\n of the potential harm to your health; at least you know about it. And\n the smoking vs non-smoking sections in public places (and aircraft) is\n also good. However, should I choose to smoke, you might tell me where\n I; but not whether I can. (I don't - my choice)\n \n What is available on the public airwaves is rightly subject to minimal\n regulation, but the major factor should be choice not law. Recorded\n material whether it is records, tapes, books, or what have you is\n subject to that same process of choosing. If you don't want to watch,\n listen, read, so what. DON'T. You don't have to. I also have the\n same choice; and if I choose what you don't like again I say, so what!\n Who are you to dictate what I will or will not (be able to) use, view,\n hear?\n \n Ours is a great country where we are 'free to make our own choices'.\n However, when our choices are reduced to a set of statutes which\n dictate what or how those choices will be, then we will lose that\n freedom.\n \n Relative to the current thread on censorship, I see no value in\n rating records, or tapes except in the 'higher' prices the increased\n demand for the more restictively rated material will bring.\n \n We will no doubt argue the fine points both pro and con on these\n issues for years to come. One fact remains as it has for past\n generations. These 'great evils' will still be being fought and\n agrued after we are long gone; and we will still be making our own\n choices despite the attempts of the otherwise well meaning to enforce\n on us their choices instead of making their own and leaving us to\n make ours. <aren't you glad i have finally finished this?>\n \n FORUM> \n202 25-SEP 01:02 Open Forum\n RE: the great debate <!--??--> (Re: Msg 201)\n From: RODM To: JOHNMYSELF\n \n John,\n \n Your comments were as long as something I might try to write but are a NECESSARY\nreminder of the everpresent attemps to protect ourselves from ourselves which\n deletes choice and as a result threatens freedom!\n \n IN OTHER WORDS - Here!, Here!, I agree!\n \n As long as we remind each other of these truths we WILL remain FREE!\n \n FORUM>\n\n204 2-OCT-22:07: Open Forum\n RE: Censorship? (Re: Msg 199)\n From: JOHNMYSELF To: TIGLON\n \n This is one of two messages I captured before the crash last weekend: \n 28-SEP 21:40 Open Forum\n RE: Censorship? (Re: Msg 199)\n From: PETEVO To: TIGLON (NR)\n \n AS...???? A KID, MAYBE. OLDER, PERHAPS BUT MAYBE STILL YOUNG IN MANY WAYS.\n \n PETE\n \n FORUM> \n \n205 2-OCT-22:09: Open Forum\n RE: the great debate <!--??--> (Re: Msg 201)\n From: JOHNMYSELF To: JOHNMYSELF\n \n This is the other of two pre-crash messages I captured: \n\n 205 28-SEP 21:47 Open Forum\n RE: the great debate <!--??--> (Re: Msg 201)\n From: PETEVO To: JOHNMYSELF (NR)\n \n VERY WELL SAID. I ESPECIALLY LIKED YOUR ANALOGY TO PROHIBITION AND THE\n MANDATORY SEAT BELT LAWS (I HAVE CHOSEN TO BUCKLE UP TOO).\n \n YOU GAVE ME A GREAT IDEA TO HELP ME PAY FOR MY DELPHI TIME. IF THEY IMPLEMENT\n THESE RECORD RATINGS, I CAN PROBABLY MAKE A BUNDLE SELLING ALBUMS TO UNDERAGED\n KIDS!!! I'LL BE RICH!\n \n PETE\n \n FORUM> \n \n206 2-OCT-22:10: General Information\n reposted\n From: JOHNMYSELF To: ALL\n \n I was a little lucky. I was able to capture two of the messages lost to the\n crash and re-post them in their original sequence. <dumb luck i guess>.\n \n <of course, from 206 on if ever found will have new numbers>\n \n FORUM> \n \n208 2-OCT-22:27: Play Ground\n RE: Sick Joke (Re: Msg 200)\n From: PETEVO To: JOHNMYSELF\n \n IT LOOKS LIKE MSG 200 IS DEAD. I'VE GOTTEN \"UNABLE TO RETRIEVE THE INFORMATION\n REQUESTED\" TWICE. LAST SATURDAY AND TODAY.\n \n FORUM> \n \n211 3-OCT-16:52: General Information\n Unreadable Message 200\n From: CABUYS To: PETEVO\n \n Thanks for pointing out the problem with message 200. I've asked someone with\n a little more \"expertise\" <grin> to take a look at it to see if it can be fixed.\n\n<\/pre>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"A summary for those that haven’t been keeping up with this series: I found a number of 5.25″ disks at a thrift store a number of years ago. I finally got around to acquiring a 5.25″ disk drive and extracting the contents a while back. Since then I have been posting the contents here. Based on the contents, at least some of these disks were apparently once owned by someone named Connie who used to run the \u201cClose Encounters\u201d Special Interest Group (SIG) on Delphi in the mid 1980s. A specific definition of this SIG was found in a document on one of the disks: “This SIG, known as ‘Close Encounters’, is a forum for the discussion of relationships that develop via computer services like the Source, CompuServe, and Delphi. Our primary emphasis is on the sexual aspects of those relationships.” This service was text based and was accessed via whatever terminal program you used on your computer to dial in to Delphi\u2019s servers. Many of these disks have forum messages, e-mails and chat session logs. 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