Xref: utzoo soc.singles:16695 alt.flame:1899 Path: utzoo!hoptoad!uunet!labrea!decwrl!hplabs!sdcrdcf!ism780c!mikep From: mikep@ism780c.UUCP (Michael A. Petonic) Newsgroups: alt.sex,soc.singles,alt.flame Subject: Re: Techniques and Positions Message-ID: <9983@ism780c.UUCP> Date: 10 May 88 22:07:09 GMT References: <3906@sphinx.uchicago.edu> <19837@oliveb.olivetti.com> <3522@ece-csc.UUCP> <2710@bsu-cs.UUCP> <9036@reed.UUCP> <9068@reed.UUCP> <686@jclyde.UUCP> <9892@ism780c.UUCP> <506@zorch.UU.NET> Reply-To: mikep@ism780c.UUCP (Michael A. Petonic) Distribution: na Organization: Interactive Systems Corp., Santa Monica CA Lines: 61 In article <506@zorch.UU.NET> shara@zorch.UU.NET (Nancy McClelland) writes: >In article <9892@ism780c.UUCP> mikep@ism780c.UUCP (Michael A. Petonic) writes: >> [ the oft quoted section of my text dealing w/ date rape ] > > I know I shouldn't be posting at this time, because I am sitting here > absolutely *fuming* with anger. But I'll be damnned if I'll let this > pass. > > Exactly what sort of slimy, crawling in the dark, lowlife are you? The kind that likes to get a reaction out of you. Thanks. > *Misread signals?* *MISREAD SIGNALS!* How do you misread "No, don't. >Please >stop. No, stop! Oh, God, no"? Rape is rape, you pathetic excuse for a >human being. Right, puss-filled crevice. Rape IS rape. But, have we agreed that what is commonly called "date rape" truly "rape" or is it a misnomer? >This whole thing of date rape was done to death on the net >8 or 10 months ago. The result was pretty disappointing. Mostly the women >said they were afraid of, or angered by date rape, and a good portion of >the male answers were "you're exagerating" and "really, it's not that big >a deal". Has any male you've ever know been raped? There are men who have >been raped. But almost always, they, too, were raped by *men*. There >actualy have been a few reported cases of men being raped by women, but I >have a question for all the men on the net. Have you, or any male in your >family, or any male you know, or any male you have ever met, been raped by a >women? Good point, bus-stop rat bag. But is it germaine? Or is it another case of "Us vs. Them?" Are you trying to make it into a case like that? How many men have you known that have raped you? For the record, I've never raped anyone. And I haven't "date raped" anyone, either. And, I don't plan on it, since my current SO is just as horny as I am (thank god for life's simple pleasures). >Think about it. For those few who have a tendency to be less than truthful, >use your intellect for a change, and really think about this, instead of >making up something to prove a point. Until at least a few men *on the net* >can say yes to this, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TELL A WOMAN HOW TO FEEL ABOUT >RAPE - ANY FORM OF RAPE! Key point: You fucked up, here. Listen to yourself. "... YOU HAVE NO RIGHT ..." Exactly. I didn't tell women how to feel about rape. I don't give a flying fuck about how you feel. I feel that it isn't a good thing, but that's moot, because I've never date raped someone. >I apologize to the rest of the net if this sounds somewhat embittered. >When I changed systems, I didn't move my kill file. Just figured I'd >start over. After all people change, or maybe I got the wrong impression >in the first place, whatever. Mike sure hasn't changed. No, I haven't. Thanks for the reaction. May the rest of your year be just as nice :-). > nancym