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From: laba-4an@web4d.berkeley.edu (Andy McFadden)
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Subject: Re: EMACS better than Vi?
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Date: 10 May 88 19:36:12 GMT
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Summary: Yo!  Read this again!

In article <9498@sol.ARPA> jpayne@cs.rochester.edu (Jonathan Payne) writes:
(For those who don't know, JOVE stands for "Jonathan's Own Version of Emacs")

>Several peopling keep making a point which is slightly "annoying" to me,
>which is, if all you want to do is simple editing then don't worry about
>the fact that you are using VI.  I don't use EMACS, I use JOVE, and so I
>don't use any of the complicated features of emacs.  Instead I use the

Everybody hear that?  You don't have to crank up a 1 megabyte lisp-based
program on a VAX to do your editing.  95% of everything you need is in
Jove (except, perhaps, M-x doctor).

>basic features I have come to take for granted, like multiple buffers,
>more than one window, interactive shells, automatic compilation and
>error/grep parsing capabilities.  JOVE is smaller than VI, so you don't
>need huge, slow programs to get a lot of the nice functionality that I
>have come to take for granted.  The thought of using an editor which only
>lets me have one buffer at a time is just horrifying ...  VI is good for

It can be annoying, but hardly horrifying.  What I would like to see is a
version of VI with multiple buffers and the ability of emacs to view/edit
object code without dying.

>sending mail and news, but forget it if you are writing a paper, a
>program, or anything else that isn't mail or news.

Here we agree to disagree, but that's not worth hashing over again.

>Jonathan Payne
>
>P.S.  Yes, I'm biased, I know.

That's ok.  It's your privilege to be biased.

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laba-4an@widow.berkeley.edu (Andy McFadden)