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From: jellinghaus-robert@CS.YALE.EDU (Rob Jellinghaus)
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Subject: Re: Accosting women on the street (was: Re: CTs)
Summary: Nick Flor deserves more flaming than anyone else I've ever seen.
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Date: 12 May 88 23:52:27 GMT
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From: jellinghaus-robert@CS.YALE.EDU (Rob Jellinghaus)
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Subject: Re: Accosting women on the street (was: Re: CTs)
Summary: Nick Flor deserves more flaming than anyone else I've ever seen.
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Date: 12 May 88 23:52:27 GMT
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In article <1273@hp-sdd.HP.COM> nick@hp-sdd.UUCP (Nick Flor) writes:
>In article <4595@super.upenn.edu> remaker@eniac.seas.upenn.edu.UUCP (Phillip A. Remaker) writes:
>>Nick, it is one thing to have accosted women, but it is an entirely different
>>thing to parade around saying "Yeah, I'm so cool because I intimidate
>>women."  I have never accosted a woman on the street in my life because I
>>was taught that such lewd advances were very rude.  You had no such upbringing,
>>and society is that much worse off for it.
>
>Phillip, it is one thing to be stupid, and another thing to be brainless.
>
>I suspect you fall into the latter category.
>A) You failed to see the context in which the "accosting" was done.
>   (you know, high school, kiddie days, golden years)

Big fucking deal.  Just because you were young is no excuse for being
an asshole.  Got that?

>B) You failed to see that the point I was trying to make was that
>   just because one is subject to verbal abuse is no reason to quake
>   in fear.  It may be that the verbal abuser is an adolescent doing
>   something silly.

YOU fail to see that the verbal abuser may NOT be doing something silly.
He may be a genuine psychopath.  At LEAST, he's an inconsiderate asshole.

>C) You failed to read my other postings which mentioned that I did not
>   just verbally abuse women, it was anyone on the street who we
>   felt like doing it to.

And you fail to understand that this makes NO DIFFERENCE to how your
obnoxious catcalls affected the women you DID harass.  (How about gays,
Nick?  Ever yell "Hey, faggots!" at a male couple?)

>D) You failed to have a brain by making such sweeping generalizations
>   as:  "You had no such upbringing and society is that much worst off
>   for it."  Don't make me laugh.

You don't know a sweeping generalization from your own asshole.  What
Phillip was simply stating the truth.  You were brought up to be a
shithead, unlike the rest of us, and we are all suffering through your
shit right now.  And all the people you ever harassed suffered through
it, too.  Which, if you are to be believed, is one hell of a lot of
people.  ("It wasn't just women.  We did it to _everybody_.")

>>And if your sole goal is to piss people
>>off (as evidenced by cross posting such remarks to soc.women), then
>>move to talk.bizarre where you can commune with your own.
>
>Some idiot edited the original header and cross posted to soc.women.
>I admit that I was being stupid by not re-editing it myself.
>I won't edit out soc.women, because I want to clear the air as
>to what the posting was really about.

Boy, you're doing a fine job, too.  Shit-for-brains.

>>Phillip A. Remaker, B.S.E., E.E., 1989  |  University Of Pennsylvania
>
>Gee, I thought you had to have some sort of reading comprehension
>in order to graduate.

I thought you had to have a life to be on the net.  Boy, do you ever
prove me wrong.

>+ Disclaimer: The above opinions are my own, not necessarily my employer's.   +
>+ Oh, sure. Sure. I'm going. But I got  | Nick V. Flor           * * o * *    +
>+ your number, see? And one of these    | Hewlett Packard SDD   * * /I\ * *   +
>+ days, the joke's gonna be on you.     | ..hplabs!hp-sdd!nick  * * / \ * *   +

You keep responding, buddy, I'll keep flaming you until enough people
ask us to stop.  Then I'll stop.  Unlike you.

Rob Jellinghaus                | "Never could see any other way--
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