Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ames!killer!elg From: elg@killer.UUCP (Eric Green) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Gadget/requester/menu tools Message-ID: <4015@killer.UUCP> Date: 8 May 88 05:12:42 GMT Organization: The Unix(R) Connection, Dallas, Texas Lines: 30 As a recent Amigan (1 week, as of this posting), I am astounded at the amount of work you have to do to set up good-looking Intuition objects. For example, if your menus don't turn out right the first time, the only thing left to do is tweak the values, re-compile (grind-grind-grind), and try again... also a good way to litter the floor with scraps of graph paper (you figure it out). A few questions: How much space do characters take up? What should be the height of a menu item, and what should be the width (as a formula, perhaps: # of character *)? And, finally, the only way I can see to put little graphic symbols up there (like an image of the ESCape key, for example), is to have an Image menu item, or define an alternate character set (finally, something familiar to me from the C-64 world!). IntuiText is bad enough :-(. Am I overlooking something? Are there tools to somewhat automate this process? I'd love to be able to define and move menus around interactively, for example, and then have the "C" declarations written to disk for me, ready to shove into my program.... and gadgets -- gawd, what a nightmare, defining those things, especially choosing correct placement within your window, and dealing with the more esoteric ones (proportional gadgets, or custom Images, anybody?). At the minimum, is there any way possible to get an Image out of a paint program, besides picking the magnifying glass (or whatever), putting pixels on graph paper, then converting pixels into numbers? -- Eric Lee Green elg@usl.CSNET Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191 ihnp4!killer!elg Lafayette, LA 70509 "Is a dream a lie that don't come true, or is it something worse?"