Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!necntc!linus!philabs!gcm!dc From: dc@gcm (Dave Caswell) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: Reflections on the creation of comp.protocols.tcp-ip.eniac Message-ID: <462@white.gcm> Date: 7 May 88 22:43:16 GMT References: <442@white.gcm> <3880@medusa.cs.purdue.edu><7691@ncoast.UUCP> Reply-To: dc@white.UUCP (Dave Caswell) Organization: Greenwich Capital Markets, Greenwich, CT Lines: 35 In article <7691@ncoast.UUCP> allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) writes: .Votes or no, the individual sysadmins decide what will be carried. Spaf's .declaration on tcp.eniac is simply that a majority of *backbone* admins have .stated that they will not carry it: therefore, even if created it won't go .anywhere, so there's no point in creating it. If this upsets you, I advise .you to reflect on the fact that NO single person or small group can control .the entire Usenet, whether it be Webber or the soi-disant "backbone cabal". Is their any evidence beside Gene's ravings that most of the backbone would not carry the group? Maybe the backbone admin's could publicly state whether they would object to carrying this group but it is by no means obvious that the group would not achieve wide propogation Gene's statements to the contrary notwithstanding. I would guess that if interesting discussions took place there that the group would flourish despite a few (it could turn out to be most; but I doubt it if something truly interesting was taking pplace) large sites not carrying it. And if the group turned out to be nothing but a prank with nothing interesting being discussed, it would die naturally of its own accord and no one would care it it was removed. So far the only facts that most people have is that Gene goes not like Bob. It may be that the group is just a farce and that nothing interesting would be discussed and that no one would care because it would not reach their site anyway. But so far all we know for sure is that Bob is in Gene's kill file and that the group has not been created. The other backbone admins have not stated any more substantial objections. I say create the group and see if it just dies a natural death. If the group was created I do not see that anyone has won a moral victory or that it has proven the valuelessness (is that a word?) of the voting guidelines. -- Dave Caswell Greenwich Capital Markets uunet!philabs!gcm!dc If it could mean something, I wouldn't have posted about it! -- Brian Case