Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!ccicpg!felix!john From: john@felix.UUCP (John Gilbert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: MultiFinder RAMDisks Message-ID: <14543@felix.UUCP> Date: Wed, 25-Nov-87 19:42:44 EST Article-I.D.: felix.14543 Posted: Wed Nov 25 19:42:44 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 29-Nov-87 14:03:28 EST References: <1927@unc.cs.unc.edu> <6664@apple.UUCP> <5104@oberon.USC.EDU> Sender: daemon@felix.UUCP Reply-To: john@felix.UUCP (John Gilbert) Organization: FileNet Corp., Costa Mesa, CA Lines: 54 In article <5104@oberon.USC.EDU> kurtzman@pollux.usc.edu (Stephen Kurtzman) writes: >In article <6664@apple.UUCP>, keith@apple.UUCP (Keith Rollin) writes: > >The valid complaint against Apple is that the now standard >Hypercard/Multifinder software combination demands 2 meg of memory to >work reasonably. Sure, you can use the regular finder and Hypercard with 1 meg, >but if you do that, you are not running a fully functional Mac. >The requirement for the minimum, fully functional Mac is now 2 meg. The requirement for the minimum, fully functional Mac is 1 meg. Use of MultiFinder and HyperCard do not really fall into the category of, minimum, fully functional. They are extensions. You can use HyperCard in 1 meg. You can use MultiFinder with many applications in 1 meg. I might add that just being able to switch between the finder and one application at a time is a great improvement, so this is a useful configuration. >As a person who just recently purchased a Mac SE with 1 meg, >the configuration in the middle of the Mac line (plus, SE, II), I do resent >the fact that Apple has obsoleted my machine after less than 90 days. By buying >in the middle of the product line, I had hoped my configuration would be >fully functional for at least 1 1/2 to 2 years. Now I am forced to shell out >the $400 for a memory upgrade even before the machine is out of warranty. This attitude seems a bit exaggerated. First, using Multi-Fnder is an OPTION, not a requirement. Secondly, the most useful things the Macintosh does, it does without HyperCard. HyperCard is just catching on, and does not yet avail the power of Word, PageMaker, SuperPaint, Excel. It is probably capable of doing a lot of things it doesn't do yet, but I can't believe anyone NEEDS HyperCard. Yet. With that in mind, I wonder why you think youe SE is "obsolete", or why you feel "forced" to buy a memory upgrade. It still does all the useful things it did before they introduced MultiFinder. Your SE will be "fully functional" for years to come. But do your think youe base level system should do EVERYTHING any Mac can? Just depends upon what you mean by "fully functional". Why did you buy a personal computer? What is it you need to get done? You see, 1 Meg SIMMs do not grow on proverbial trees. They could ship Mac SE's with 2 megs. They could also justify charging you an extra $350 too. What about the person who doesn't need the extra memory? You can still do a LOT in 1 meg. I do think they should offer, and suspect we will see, a MacSE configuration with 2 megs become an item in the Apple Product list. I think it should cost more than the 1 meg variety too. I doubt it would have saved you much, but you would not have felt quite so upset. You have a tool. Get the most out of it that you can. John Gilbert -- John Gilbert !trwrb!felix!john