Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!lll-lcc!well!wolf From: wolf@well.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: AT&T attitude to educational source Message-ID: <4651@well.UUCP> Date: Sun, 6-Dec-87 19:54:16 EST Article-I.D.: well.4651 Posted: Sun Dec 6 19:54:16 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Dec-87 08:43:07 EST References: <10653@brl-adm.ARPA> <5500015@snail> Lines: 47 Summary: ATT source is quite availible, even to students In article <5500015@snail>, carroll@snail.CS.UIUC.EDU writes: > > As a student at a university that has AT&T source, I found it > difficult to get to see, and I was allowed only the source absolutely > necessary for fixing a particular bug. I'm a grad student in CS, and > system manager for about 30 3b2's running SysVR3.0, and I don't get much > access to AT&T source, and what I do get to see I am expressly forbidden > from letting anyone else (including my assistant sys admins) look at. > > Alan M. Carroll amc@woodshop.cs.uiuc.edu carroll@s.cs.uiuc.edu > ...{ihnp4,convex}!uiucdcs!woodshop!amc ATT source code for the 286 and 386 UNIX ports is quite availible. Microport still offers its Educational Site Licensing program. And even students can look at the source code, hack it up for their AT's, and make whatever changes that they want. There are two limitations. First, it only applies to U.S. educational sites. Second, it can only be used for educational purposes. There were some rumors that we had discontinued it; but that isn't the case. We had some problems with organizations who refused to pay us once they got the package. So we now require a check with the order. In my personal opinion, this source code along with Maurice Bach's book is the finest opportunity that students have ever had to learn how real software works. I was I had this when I was in school! Similar programs may be availible from Intel, Bell Technologies, ISC and SCO. But I am unfamiliar with these companies product offerings for educational institutions; it's best to call them direct. -dwight- Dwight H. Leu ihnp4!amdcad!uport!dwight V.P. Engineering well!wolf Microport microsoft!sco!ucscc!uport!dwight 408-438-8649 Intel: 408-765-8080 Bell: 1-800-IBM-UNIX SCO: 408-425-7222 Interactive Systems Corp: ??? (Santa Monica, Cal) "Will your XENIX application run next year when Microsoft drops XENIX and switches to UNIX? Not even Microsoft guarantees it. We're still eagerly awaiting an official guarantee!"