Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdcad!decwrl!ucbvax!rutgers!galaxy!andromeda!marco From: marco@andromeda.UUCP Newsgroups: alt.flame Subject: Always playin' the martyr, eh, Mark ? Message-ID: <296@galaxy> Date: Mon, 30-Nov-87 16:01:30 EST Article-I.D.: galaxy.296 Posted: Mon Nov 30 16:01:30 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 3-Dec-87 23:05:02 EST References: <5909@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> <1842@chinet.UUCP> Sender: news@galaxy Reply-To: marco@andromeda.UUCP (the wharf rat) Organization: Franklin's Tower Lines: 59 Keywords: the MES mess. Summary: Hey, I was there, too. In article <1896@chinet.UUCP> era@chinet.UUCP (Mark Ethan Smith) writes: > > [ Story of the infamous .plan debacle deleted ] Yeah, Mark, great way to make a point. Pick some random innocent bystander and do things to them you wouldn't want done to you. According to you, now that "the fascists" knew where you, (a woman alone), lived, they would climb into your bedroom at night and murder you, a plan which you intended to foil with the gun which you kept by your bed. So, if you really thought this was true, and weren't just blowing it out your ass, why did you post some random stranger's info ? And as to that "hostile pseudo" you keep talking about, all that guy did was dare to disagree with you in soc.women about your (I'll be polite) *unusual* ideas concerning women's clothing. When it got obvious that soc.women wasn't interested in the discussion, he attempted to move it to e-mail. *You* responded by posting mega-hundred-line stream-of-conciousness ramblings accusing him of everything from sending you obscene && threatening mail to trying to "force" you to correspond to (get this, folks) tying women to sewer pipes, killing them, and grinding them up for dog food. (These are actual quotes, by the way. I saved some of these on hardcopy) And (of course) you cross-posted all of this junk to every newsgroup you could think of. Amused by all this, and noting a distinct resemblance between Mark V. Chaney && Mark E. Smith, he posted a one-liner questioning wether you were an AI, like the other Mark. *THAT* one-line posting is the sum total of the discussion that the "hostile pseudo" posted. It ended up in soc.singles because the article he was responding to was in soc.singles, where you CROSS POSTED it. So it *wasn't* maliciousness that led him to post there, was it ? And he never sent you threatening, obscene or any mail at all except for the one attempt to move an inapropriate line of discussion to email. And the disgusting "mail" you forwarded to hoxna!root with all that stupid talk about lawsuits was an utter forgery, wasn't it ? "Incessant, uncontrolable harrasement" my ASS! And how do I know this ?? Because *I* was that "hostile pseudo", you shmuck !! "vcp" was the Virtual Circuit Project; some software I was building needed to run under its own id, and since I found myself logged on as vcp, I started reading news there. "Torturing and killing women for sport" "You have no right to conceal your genitals and deprive us of our fun" "Fucking bitch, you deserve to be punished" OH, COME ON, MARK !! YOU MADE ALL THAT UP, AND YOU GOD DAMNED WELL KNOW IT !! So now, when you tell me how male scientists will rape and blackmail female scientists if they catch them alone in their hotel rooms, when you see childish high-school pranks as evidence of the Great Fascist Male Conspiracy, when you talk about insane criminal geniuses following you around to murder you, I just think back to the weekend I spent hunting through server logs on hoxna to see if vcp really did mail anything. Guess what I found ? Hmm? Shit, I knew damn well I was the only one using that account. Mark, you turned down offers to help with your obvious pain. Why don't you go home and stew in your own juices, instead of spreading hatred, bitterness and DAMN LIES ?? And go ahead, turkey, *write* to my SA. the wharf rat, Void *Captain(), and anything else I damn well want to call myself.