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Subject: Copy ][+ and backing up Appleworks
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Date: Wed, 2-Dec-87 19:15:53 EST
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<> Message-Id: <8712021256.AA01197@crash.cts.com>
<> From: System Operator 
<> Subject: AppleWorks Data Base Files

dale@pro-colony writes:

<>      1) What copy program ddo you use to make backups of AppleWorks?
<>         Do NOT use COPY ][+, LOCKSMITH, DISK MUNCHER, etc.  If you do, you
<>         are only asking for trouble.  They will not copy the 5.25" version
<>         of AppleWorks correctly.

        What concensus has lead people to believe that Copy ][+ or Locksmith
wil NOT copy the unprotected 5.25 version of Appleworks?  These are programs
that take the total track image (in fast copy modes) and read it, verify it
(three times, take the two that match) and then write the image to disk.  How
can you say that they do not copy it write?  I remember when I first got
Appleworks, if I didn't have Copy ][+ 4.something back then, I would have been
highly upset at Apple, because no one in our user group could get the Apple
System disk filer to copy Appleworks correctly!  Doing a whole volume copy
with the filer produced a disk that has incorrect block assignments and a
couple of other horrid things.  Copy ][+ has never failed me, and is a lot
better utility than anything that Apple, itself, has ever put out.  Locksmith,
although I don't use it, is an excellent copier that I have never heard
bad things of. ON the other hand, Apple's filer is junk.  Oh yeah, admittedly,
there might be a problem with Disk Muncher, but that is because it doesn't
verify a track's address markers (I believe).

Todd South
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