Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!hao!ames!ptsfa!ihnp4!cbosgd!clyde!watmath!watdragon!tiger!jafischer From: jafischer@tiger.waterloo.edu (Jonathan A. Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Cyber Paint Message-ID: <4295@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: Mon, 30-Nov-87 23:34:10 EST Article-I.D.: watdrago.4295 Posted: Mon Nov 30 23:34:10 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 4-Dec-87 20:42:50 EST References: <2886@mit-hermes.AI.MIT.EDU> <604@aucs.UUCP> Sender: daemon@watdragon.waterloo.edu Reply-To: jafischer@tiger.waterloo.edu (Jonathan A. Fischer) Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 45 Keywords: CAD 3D 2.02 In article <604@aucs.UUCP> 870646c@aucs.UUCP (barry comer) writes: >... CAD 3D 2.0 or 2.02... Precisely what has changed in version 2.02? > P.S. Are there any other "Cyber Punks" out there? Yea brother, I too am a true believer. Great Scott, what a system. Incidentally, those of you with upgraded 520's have a marked advantage, in that you can hook into your VCR's and create some pretty impressive videos. (I say upgraded because the program needs a meg). In fact, (here's a novel use) I used CAD 3-D 2.0 to create a presentation which I, uh, presented to a baker's dozen of top-level managers at NCR, at the end of my last co-op work term. Felt a bit like "show and tell" at first, but it went over pretty well. All co-ops are required to go through this (incredibly stressful) ordeal at NCR, and it helped to have such a 'crutch.' This was, in fact, the purpose for which I bought CAD 3-D, and the only way I could justify it to my wife! The new CYBER CONTROL program (which I haven't got, yet) adds the ability to use B-splines to twist your objects (and the camera's path) in amazing ways. The demo I've seen makes me WANT this program. Add CYBER PAINT, and you've got one incredibly powerful (and expensive, especially if you add the stereoscopic glasses) desktop video system. The only problem is that it's practically a full-time job to create anything truly interesting and of any length. Ask me, I know! The 2 or 3 minutes I created for my presentation took, oh, maybe 30 to 50 hours (but then, I'm a nit-picking tweaker, and I needn't have taken quite so long), counting the time spent creating the objects, such as a true-to-scale 7770 cheque processing machine. Finally, there are two things which, in my opinion, would add immeasurably to the system's overall appeal: A) a 68881 co-processor (someone was just asking about this). CAD takes two to three ice ages to create complex scenes. If a co-pro- cessor board were to become popular enough to be considered a de- facto standard, I'm sure Tom Hudson would support it (the accessory hook would prove useful here). B) a higher-resolution video card for the megas (could probably be done for the ST's as well). Again, a custom accessory could do the job. -- - Jonathan A. Fischer jafischer@lily.waterloo.edu ...{ihnp4,allegra,decvax,utzoo,utcsri}!watmath!watdragon!lily!jafischer