Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!cmcl2!acf3!acf2!siritzky From: siritzky@acf2.UUCP (Brian Siritzky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: TeXtures and MacTeX Message-ID: <170037@acf2.UUCP> Date: 14 Dec 87 19:44:00 GMT References: <3643@ames.arpa> Organization: New York University Lines: 316 Does this mean that you have got Latex to work? Can you give me some info on how you did this and what kind of memory requirements it has? Brian Siritzky Relay-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU From: siritzky@acf2.UUCP (Brian Siritzky) Date: 14-Dec-87 13:00 EST Date-Received: 14-Dec-87 13:00 EST Subject: Mac Ada Compilers now available Message-ID: <170036@acf2.UUCP> Path: acf3!acf2!siritzky Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf2.UUCP Organization: New York University This information was announced last week at the SIGADA conference in Boston. There are now two Ada compilers for the Mac. Alsys has a version for the MacII with the Unix card installed. I know nothing about the cost or availability. Meridian (800)-221-2522 (In CA), has a compiler for a Mac+, SE or II running under what they call Mac Native OS. (I guess that means MPW?) Someone who saw this says that it looked good. Has a good debugger and a decent evironment. So, here's the dirt: They want $1195 for the compiler and $495 for the debugger!!! Forget it! I have nothing to do with either of these companies, so please don't send me any personal replies to this message. I just wanted to spread the news. Brian Siritzky Relay-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU From: dube@acf3.NYU.EDU Date: 14-Dec-87 16:14 EST Date-Received: 14-Dec-87 16:14 EST Subject: Price of House vs. Interest Rates Message-ID: <20170006@acf3.NYU.EDU> Path: acf3!dube Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU Organization: New York University From kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu Mon Dec 14 16:11:44 1987 Return-Path:Received: by acf3.NYU.EDU (5.54/25-eef) id AA27557; Mon, 14 Dec 87 16:11:36 EST Message-Id: <8712142111.AA27557@acf3.NYU.EDU> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 87 16:05:23 est From: kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu (Ira Mitchell Kaplan) Received: by csd2.nyu.edu; Mon, 14 Dec 87 16:05:23 est To: dube@acf3 Subject: rates Status: R With all this talk about mortgages and so on, I was wondering which is more important, carefully checking to make sure the loan rate is good, or carefully checking that the price of the house is good. I present two scenarios to illustrate the issue. I ignore the tax situation, but the difference between the two in taxes is probably a 2nd order effect, so what follows should give a good rough sense of the situation. You have 150000 in the bank. 1. You buy a house for 150000. Put down 30K, take out a 30 yr, 10% mortgage for 120K. Leave 120K in the bank at 10%, and pay the mortgage monthly with money from the bank account. In 30 years, you have the house and the 120K is gone. 150/10% 2. House is 160000, but you were more careful with loan. Put down 40000, get 30 yr 9% (not 10%) mortgage for 120K. Monthly payment of 965.55 is just about covered by withdrawals from 110000 in bank, getting 10% (can withdraw 965.33/month). In 30 years, you have the house and the 110K is gone. 160/9% So, roughly, 150 for house with 10% loan on 120 = 160 with 9% on 120. A reduction of 1% on loan (a rate reduction of 10%: .01/.10 = .10) covered an extra 10K on house (6.7% increase). This doesn't complete the analysis, but it does point out, for example, that you're probably better off searching to save .5% than arguing if the past owner should pay for this $400 window repair. More detailed analysis of this, or variations, would be interesting. Ira Kaplan kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu a guest on this account Relay-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU From: dube@acf3.NYU.EDU Date: 14-Dec-87 12:21 EST Date-Received: 14-Dec-87 12:21 EST Subject: Re: Question about "pink sheet" Message-ID: <19980005@acf3.NYU.EDU> Path: acf3!dube Newsgroups: misc.invest Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU Organization: New York University References: /* acf3:misc.invest / ekwok@cadev4.intel.com (Edward C. Kwok) / 5:36 pm Dec 11, 1987 */ writes: ... on a daily publication call the "pink sheets". It's really printed on pink paper, I've seen one of them. Many of these stocks have very few market makers. The experts are, of course, Blinder Robinson, Stuart James, First Jersey and so forth. Ira Kaplan kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu writes: I don't remember the details but for some reason Forbes mag refered to Blinder Robinson as "Blind `em and Rob `em" so beware. Ira, a guest on dube's account Relay-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU From: dube@acf3.NYU.EDU Date: 14-Dec-87 16:15 EST Date-Received: 14-Dec-87 16:15 EST Subject: Price of House vs. Interest Rates Message-ID: <19980006@acf3.NYU.EDU> Path: acf3!dube Newsgroups: misc.invest Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU Organization: New York University From kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu Mon Dec 14 16:11:44 1987 Return-Path: Received: by acf3.NYU.EDU (5.54/25-eef) id AA27557; Mon, 14 Dec 87 16:11:36 EST Message-Id: <8712142111.AA27557@acf3.NYU.EDU> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 87 16:05:23 est From: kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu (Ira Mitchell Kaplan) Received: by csd2.nyu.edu; Mon, 14 Dec 87 16:05:23 est To: dube@acf3 Subject: rates Status: R With all this talk about mortgages and so on, I was wondering which is more important, carefully checking to make sure the loan rate is good, or carefully checking that the price of the house is good. I present two scenarios to illustrate the issue. I ignore the tax situation, but the difference between the two in taxes is probably a 2nd order effect, so what follows should give a good rough sense of the situation. You have 150000 in the bank. 1. You buy a house for 150000. Put down 30K, take out a 30 yr, 10% mortgage for 120K. Leave 120K in the bank at 10%, and pay the mortgage monthly with money from the bank account. In 30 years, you have the house and the 120K is gone. 150/10% 2. House is 160000, but you were more careful with loan. Put down 40000, get 30 yr 9% (not 10%) mortgage for 120K. Monthly payment of 965.55 is just about covered by withdrawals from 110000 in bank, getting 10% (can withdraw 965.33/month). In 30 years, you have the house and the 110K is gone. 160/9% So, roughly, 150 for house with 10% loan on 120 = 160 with 9% on 120. A reduction of 1% on loan (a rate reduction of 10%: .01/.10 = .10) covered an extra 10K on house (6.7% increase). This doesn't complete the analysis, but it does point out, for example, that you're probably better off searching to save .5% than arguing if the past owner should pay for this $400 window repair. More detailed analysis of this, or variations, would be interesting. Ira Kaplan kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu a guest on this account Relay-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU From: tmy6405@acf3.NYU.EDU (Ted M. Young) Date: 14-Dec-87 11:30 EST Date-Received: 14-Dec-87 11:30 EST Subject: Re: More or less Message-ID: <680005@acf3.NYU.EDU> Path: acf3!tmy6405 Newsgroups: rec.humor Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU Organization: New York University References: <4046@trwrb.UUCP> That sounds very similar in logic to the following: The more you know, the more you forget the more you forget, the less you know the less you know, the less you forget the less you forget, the more you know. =========================================== -- Ted M. Young tmy6405@acf3.nyu.edu (you're on your own for other nets!) Relay-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU From: mckenney@acf2.UUCP (Alan Michael McKenney) Date: 14-Dec-87 15:28 EST Date-Received: 14-Dec-87 15:29 EST Subject: Re: Are Past Participles Dead ? Message-ID: <343@acf2.UUCP> Path: acf3!mckenney Newsgroups: sci.lang Organization: New York University Distribution: usa Lines: 41 In <61800001@convex>, tchrist@convex.UUCP writes: >> ... , I had never swam in my life. > ^ > I have this suspicion that American English is losing its past > participles. I am continually being mis-corrected for using them > in the United States, much to my consternation. Interestingly enough, > in England the same does *not* occur; indeed, the general populace > uses past participles and does so correctly. As an American, I have not had the impression that past participles were going out of fashion. I have heard the phenomenon you describe: I had a roommate a few years ago who came from an Italian-American community in eastern Pennsylvania, who invariably used the past instead of the past participle in his speech (he must have done better in the papers he wrote, as he seemed to get good grades.) Since I have no idea who or what or where convex.UUCP is, I can't guess what sort of people you run into. Here in New York, a large fraction of the population lives in ethnic communities whose accepted version of English is highly colored by the native languages of the people who settled there, and since many (most?) New Yorkers have little sustained contact with people outside of New York or even their communities (and that goes for the Upper Class, too!), it wouldn't surprise me to hear that they would assume that their version of English is the only right one. Aside from the roommate, I don't know of any American dialect which doesn't distinguish between past and past participle--even Black dialect does. As for *b(r)oughten, I have never heard it (unless from a young child), but I have heard "brung", which I associate with Appalachia (I grew up in Virginia.) ...!cmcl2!acf2!mckenney (USENET?) Alan McKenney E-mail: mckenney@acf2.nyu.edu (INTERNET) Courant Institute,NYU mckenney%acf2@nyucimsa.bitnet (BITNET) To: tchrist@convex.UUCP: if you would post a path from a backbone or INTERNET site, people (e.g., me) could E-mail to you. -- Alan McKenney E-mail: mckenney@acf2.nyu.edu (INTERNET) Courant Institute,NYU mckenney%acf2@nyucimsa.bitnet (BITNET) Relay-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU From: dube@acf3.NYU.EDU Date: 14-Dec-87 13:31 EST Date-Received: 14-Dec-87 13:31 EST Subject: Re: My Need For Womanspace Message-ID: <21690001@acf3.NYU.EDU> Path: acf3!dube Newsgroups: soc.women Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU Organization: New York University References: <1410@aurora.UUCP> In article <15753@felix.UUCP> jsf@felix.UUCP (Jeff Freedman) writes: >In article <2530@arthur.cs.purdue.edu> jenkins@arthur.cs.purdue.edu (Colin Jenkins) writes: >>As long as these men don't treat *you* as >>a sex object after returning from a T&A place, what is your complaint? > >So if my fellow employees go out and beat up a few Jews, but then come back >and say, "Don't worry Jeff, you're a good guy, not at all like THEM", then >I shouldn't let it bother me? Ira Kaplan kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu a guest on this account, responds: Here's my point of view. The essential thing is whether the man considers women to be *only* sex objects or does he consider women as real persons that have a sexual aspect? I consider myself more feminist than the average US male, and it bothered me a bit when I realized the extent to which I notice what women around me look like when I take the train. But then I contrast this with the fact that if introduced to a woman, I could speak to her for hours and later have no recollection of what she looks like below the neck. I smuggly congratulated myself for being able to see women both ways. I can't guarantee the attitudes of the person originally refered to, but I would say that many men can respect women as people even though they engage in these activities.* *I only refer to men that may try to be fair on a personal level, but are essentially non-political. Such a person could reasonably justify the action to themselves. A more activist or politically minded male feminist would probably recognize the social harm done in supporting such establishments economically, and more generally with their presence. Relay-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU From: dube@acf3.NYU.EDU Date: 14-Dec-87 13:43 EST Date-Received: 14-Dec-87 13:43 EST Subject: Erotic Literature Message-ID: <21690002@acf3.NYU.EDU> Path: acf3!dube Newsgroups: soc.women Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf3.NYU.EDU Organization: New York University A while ago during some discussions on pornography and so forth, a few examples of erotic literature for women were discussed which the net-people seemed to have a very favorable reaction to. My wife's birthday is around the corner, so could you please tell me what it was (Ladies Home Erotica?) and where I might get it? (I live in NYC, so it should be easy 8^) ) Please email to me at kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu Thanks, Ira Kaplan