Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bbn!rochester!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!zeus!amadeus!bryanh From: bryanh@amadeus.TEK.COM (Bryan Hilterbrand;1893;92-789;LP=A;60aC) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: rec.wildlife or rec.econet=-ecology Message-ID: <2785@zeus.TEK.COM> Date: Thu, 3-Dec-87 14:28:53 EST Article-I.D.: zeus.2785 Posted: Thu Dec 3 14:28:53 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 10-Dec-87 05:49:07 EST References: <2039@dasys1.UUCP> <18737@bbn.COM> <154@bacchus.DEC.COM> <2744@zeus.TEK.COM> <395@picuxa.UUCP> Sender: news@zeus.TEK.COM Reply-To: bryanh@amadeus.UUCP (Bryan Hilterbrand) Followup-To: rec.birds Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR. Lines: 51 In article <395@picuxa.UUCP> gp@picuxa.UUCP (Greg Pasquariello X1190) writes: > >> or post articles about breeding/caring for domestic (but not pet) birds. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >What the heck is the difference? I think of a pet bird as a bird that isn't afraid when humans are near to it, and a pet bird is usually trained to talk or get on a person's hand (shoulder, etc.). A domestic (a better term would be captive) bird is a bird that is, for all practical purposes, wild but is kept in a cage. Generally captive birds don't talk and will bite a person's hand when the person tries to pick them up, and they are usually afraid to have humans anywhere near them. The term 'domestic' was a poor word choice on my part, because a 'domestic bird' would be something like a chicken or turkey (however, chicken and turkey (living--not food) articles also don't have a place to roost--pardon the pun). > Personally, I favor the though that this >newsgroup is for *wild* birds (maybe rec.birders). It doesn't get enough >traffic though. So maybe rec.wildlife is the answer. I'm not the person who misnamed the newsgroup--I just put it in my newsgroup list. If the basis for this newsgroup was birdwatching, then it should have been named rec.birdwtchrs (or rec.birders as you suggested). You are correct about the amount of traffic put out by birdwatchers--it is so minimal that they could not stand alone in a separate newsgroup. I am (as I've stated before) very much in favor of a new newsgroup called rec.wildlife or rec.nature, and I would put both rec.birds and the new newsgroup in my newgroup list (any volunteers out there to take votes for a new newsgroup??). > Those that wish to >discuss breeding domestic (read pet) birds should probably take it to rec.pet. Perhaps pet bird articles should be posted to rec.pets (although many of these articles are asking for advice--and what better place to get advice about birds than this newgroup), but CAPTIVE bird articles have no place there (and would probably be flamed). Also, I'm not going to waste my time digging through the dog, cat, and goldfish articles to find the one or two articles a day about birds (NOTE: I do like all three of the aforementioned pets--I just don't like to read about them). >Flame resistant feathers on :-) No, no flames--just a little discussion. Bryan Hilterbrand +------------------------------------------------+ bryanh@dadla.TEK.COM | Were you REALLY expecting a cute message here? | Tektronix Logic Analyzers +------------------------------------------------+