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From: larrabee@decwrl.dec.com (Tracy Larrabee)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: Pet Postings
Message-ID: <160@bacchus.DEC.COM>
Date: Sun, 29-Nov-87 23:29:37 EST
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Posted: Sun Nov 29 23:29:37 1987
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In article <9007@utzoo.UUCP> jackson@utzoo.UUCP (Don Jackson) writes:
> If you want to open the group up to
>the discussion of breeding/caring for domestic (but not pet) birds, I am
>quite happy to begin posting fascinating questions and/or answers about the
>many wonders of raising poultry. Does anyone know which hormones are better
>to increase the growth rate of chickens? How does this compare to turkeys?
>I think we must have an abundance of *turkey experts* on this newsgroup.
>I know that I'm more interested in discussing the optimal feed mix for poultry
>than the breeding/caring of *non-pet* parrots.
>
>Perhaps it is time to restrict this newsgroup to its original purpose, namely
>recreational bird-watching, and let the turkeys go elsewhere....

I am perfectly interested in poultry.  I would welcome discussion on birds
of any kind.  If, however, instead of making constructive suggestions, you
are threatening net sabatage, I think you should look into how such acts
are viewed by the community of net-news administrators.

If you want to start a new group, send a message to *.news.group and say
that you are collecting votes on the popularity of that new group.  Name it
anything you like: rec.utzoo-jerks, rec.wildlife.withfeathers, or 
rec.greenpeace.  I find it likely that I would also be interested in such
a new group (with the one obvious exception).  

But if you just want to whine, I suggest you face up the the reality of 
usenet: You cannot stop parrot enthusiasts from posting to this 
(appropriately-named) group.  If you just want to flame, why not try 
alt.flame?  If you don't get it, you could send it to me and I will 
forward it for you.

Now, meta-discussions on the purpose of groups are frowned upon, so I
will ask a substantive question: Has anyone else besides me used Vivagen
for genetic sexing?  They just raised their prices by almost 50%--does that
mean that they aren't making it?  The literature gives them even better 
marks than surgical sexing, but I have talked to a breeder "who has a friend"
(apocryphal story?) who send in 30 Hyacinth Macaw specimens and got back
100% reverse on the correct sexes (she new the correct sexes already and
just wanted to test them out before trusting her millions-of-dollars-worth of
birds to genetic sexing).