Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!cmcl2!husc6!cca!mirror!howtek!fred From: fred@howtek.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Development Environment Advice Wanted Message-ID: <687@howtek.UUCP> Date: Wed, 2-Dec-87 14:39:36 EST Article-I.D.: howtek.687 Posted: Wed Dec 2 14:39:36 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 6-Dec-87 15:42:13 EST Organization: Howtek Inc.,Hudson, NH Lines: 40 Keywords: Development, MacII Debuggers I've been setting up a development environment to do color work on the MacII. I've run into a significant problem and I thought maybe some of you out there might have some suggestions. At the very least maybe I can warn you of a potential problem. We've set ourselves up with two MacIIs and two PCPCII monitors. We originally ordered Supermac Spectrum monitors, but thought we couldn't wait the amount of time they quoted for delivery. We're running all of the latest system software and Lightspeed C 2.13. Now I thought I was more than ready to sit down and take on 3 or 4 projects with all this great hardware and software but then I tried to find a debugger. We've tried TMON, Macsbug and Jasik's "The Debugger". "The Debugger" bombs. We suspect it might not with more than a megabyte of RAM so we have ordered the 2meg upgrades. TMON puts up an illegible box in the top left corner of the screen. This is due to the fact that the PCPCII has no "1bit mode". Macsbug loads O.K., but doesn't display anything or take any commands when it gets an interrupt. I've called Personal Computer Peripherals Corp. and they were most polite, however when I eventually got my question to an engineering type he said that he was unaware of any debuggers that would work and he used an Apple monochrome monitor for debugging. Not all too helpful. 19" high res color monitors are not cheap. Now I'm supposed to go out and buy some other monitor when I want to debug? The PCPCII monitors have great color. The staff at PCPC was great and delivered me 2 monitors within 7 days of placing the order. However, I think I might do things differently were I to know what I know now. Anyone out there have a similar environment and know a way around this problem? Read a little desparation into that last sentence. We're fairly novice Mac programmers here and a debugger would make my life quite a bit simpler. Our Mac projects are proceeding, but slower than I would like. -- -Fred.