Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mnetor.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!utcs!mnetor!clewis From: clewis@mnetor.UUCP Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Re: Zundel etc. Message-ID: <570@mnetor.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-May-85 10:42:13 EDT Article-I.D.: mnetor.570 Posted: Fri May 10 10:42:13 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 10-May-85 11:45:27 EDT References: <638@lsuc.UUCP> <558@mnetor.UUCP> <2889@garfield.UUCP> Reply-To: clewis@mnetor.UUCP (Chris Lewis) Distribution: can Organization: Computer X (CANADA) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Lines: 36 Summary: In article <2889@garfield.UUCP> lionel@garfield.UUCP (Lionel H. Moser) writes: > > Chris Lewis writes: > ... >> Not quite "were criminal". The correct wording is "were against the >> law" > The above paragraph not withstanding, I don't really see the >difference between "criminal" and "against the law" as you distinguish >them. Both are legal terms, are they not? Perhaps you mean "criminal" >as "morally incorrect." (Or perhaps I have taken you out of context...) I believe that Dave Sherman (to whom I replied) was actually meaning "morally incorrect" (and so was I). This is because he was implying that the jury system can make decisions differing from the "exact letter of the law". Right Dave? My major point was that, yes, they can, but it is not enshrined and/or guaranteed by the legal code and that many judges do not like it happening. A judge does have the right to overturn a jury decision if he can establish that the terms of reference for the jury has been violated and he feels strongly enough about it can't he? (I seem to remember one or two occasions where a judge has declared mis-trials when the judge has decided that the jury grossly goofed in satisfying the requirements for conviction and/or acquittal) Re: Morgantaler - I believe that he acknowledges that the common interpretation of the law implies that what he does is illegal. The Federal Govt. seems to be saying that the law is so vague, that it is up to the Provinces to determine what exactly the law means w.r.t. clinic abortions. My remembrance of the law, when taken completely literally, does prohibit what Morgentaler is doing. (This is not intended to imply that *I* personally think what Morgantaler is doing is right OR wrong). -- Chris Lewis, UUCP: {allegra, linus, ihnp4}!utzoo!mnetor!clewis BELL: (416)-475-8980 ext. 321