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From: siritzky@acf2.UUCP (Brian Siritzky)
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Subject: Re: TeXtures and MacTeX
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Date: 14 Dec 87 19:44:00 GMT
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Does this mean that you have got Latex to work?
Can you give me some info on how you did this and what kind of
memory requirements it has?

	Brian Siritzky
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From: siritzky@acf2.UUCP (Brian Siritzky)
Date: 14-Dec-87 13:00 EST
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Subject: Mac Ada Compilers now available 
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This information was announced last week at the SIGADA conference
in Boston. There are now two Ada compilers for the Mac.

Alsys has a version for the MacII with the Unix card installed.
I know nothing about the cost or availability.

Meridian (800)-221-2522 (In CA), has a compiler for a Mac+, SE or II
running under what they call Mac Native OS. (I guess that means MPW?)
Someone who saw this says that it looked good. Has a good debugger and
a decent evironment. So, here's the dirt: They want $1195 for the compiler
and $495 for the debugger!!! Forget it! 

I have nothing to do with either of these companies, so please don't
send me any personal replies to this message. I just wanted to spread
the news.

	Brian Siritzky
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From: dube@acf3.NYU.EDU
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Subject: Price of House vs. Interest Rates
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From kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu Mon Dec 14 16:11:44 1987
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From: kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu (Ira Mitchell Kaplan)
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With all this talk about mortgages and so on, I was wondering which is
more important, carefully checking to make sure the loan rate is good, or
carefully checking that the price of the house is good.
I present two scenarios to illustrate the issue.  I ignore the tax situation,
but the difference between the two in taxes is probably a 2nd order effect,
so what follows should give a good rough sense of the situation.

You have 150000 in the bank.
1.  You buy a house for 150000.  Put down 30K, take out a 30 yr, 10%
    mortgage for 120K.  Leave 120K in the bank at 10%, and pay the 
    mortgage monthly with money from the bank account.
    In 30 years, you have the house and the 120K is gone.
    150/10%

2.  House is 160000, but you were more careful with loan.  Put down
    40000, get 30 yr  9% (not 10%) mortgage for 120K.  Monthly payment
    of 965.55  is just about covered by withdrawals from 110000
    in bank, getting 10%  (can withdraw 965.33/month).
    In 30 years, you have the house and the 110K is gone.
    160/9%

So, roughly,  150 for house with 10% loan on 120 
 = 160 with 9% on 120.
A reduction of 1% on loan (a rate reduction of 10%: .01/.10 = .10)
covered an extra 10K on house (6.7% increase).

This doesn't complete the analysis, but it does point out, for example,
that you're probably better off searching to save .5% than arguing if the
past owner should pay for this  $400 window repair.

More detailed analysis of this, or variations, would be interesting.
Ira Kaplan   kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu  a guest on this account

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From: dube@acf3.NYU.EDU
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/* acf3:misc.invest / ekwok@cadev4.intel.com (Edward C. Kwok) /  5:36 pm  Dec 11, 1987 */
writes:
...
on a daily publication call the "pink sheets". It's really printed on pink
paper, I've seen one of them. Many of these stocks have very few market 
makers. The experts are, of course, Blinder Robinson, Stuart James, First 
Jersey and so forth. 

Ira Kaplan kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu writes:
I don't remember the details but for some reason Forbes mag refered to
Blinder Robinson as "Blind `em and Rob `em" so beware.
Ira, a guest on dube's account
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From kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu Mon Dec 14 16:11:44 1987
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With all this talk about mortgages and so on, I was wondering which is
more important, carefully checking to make sure the loan rate is good, or
carefully checking that the price of the house is good.
I present two scenarios to illustrate the issue.  I ignore the tax situation,
but the difference between the two in taxes is probably a 2nd order effect,
so what follows should give a good rough sense of the situation.

You have 150000 in the bank.
1.  You buy a house for 150000.  Put down 30K, take out a 30 yr, 10%
    mortgage for 120K.  Leave 120K in the bank at 10%, and pay the 
    mortgage monthly with money from the bank account.
    In 30 years, you have the house and the 120K is gone.
    150/10%

2.  House is 160000, but you were more careful with loan.  Put down
    40000, get 30 yr  9% (not 10%) mortgage for 120K.  Monthly payment
    of 965.55  is just about covered by withdrawals from 110000
    in bank, getting 10%  (can withdraw 965.33/month).
    In 30 years, you have the house and the 110K is gone.
    160/9%

So, roughly,  150 for house with 10% loan on 120 
 = 160 with 9% on 120.
A reduction of 1% on loan (a rate reduction of 10%: .01/.10 = .10)
covered an extra 10K on house (6.7% increase).

This doesn't complete the analysis, but it does point out, for example,
that you're probably better off searching to save .5% than arguing if the
past owner should pay for this  $400 window repair.

More detailed analysis of this, or variations, would be interesting.
Ira Kaplan   kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu  a guest on this account

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From: tmy6405@acf3.NYU.EDU (Ted M. Young)
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That sounds very similar in logic to the following:

The more you know, the more you forget
the more you forget, the less you know
the less you know, the less you forget
the less you forget, the more you know.

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-- Ted M. Young

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From: mckenney@acf2.UUCP (Alan Michael McKenney)
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In <61800001@convex>, tchrist@convex.UUCP writes:

>>            ... , I had never swam in my life.  
>                               ^
>  I have this suspicion that American English is losing its past 
>  participles.  I am continually being mis-corrected for using them
>  in the United States, much to my consternation.  Interestingly enough,
>  in England the same does *not* occur; indeed, the general populace 
>  uses past participles and does so correctly.

As an American, I have not had the impression that past participles
were going out of fashion.  I have heard the phenomenon you describe:
I had a roommate a few years ago who came from an Italian-American
community in eastern Pennsylvania, who invariably used the past instead
of the past participle in his speech (he must have done better in
the papers he wrote, as he seemed to get good grades.)  Since I have
no idea who or what or where convex.UUCP is, I can't guess what
sort of people you run into.  Here in New York, a large fraction of
the population lives in ethnic communities whose accepted version
of English is highly colored by the native languages of the people
who settled there, and since many (most?) New Yorkers have little
sustained contact with people outside of New York or even
their communities (and that goes for the Upper Class, too!), it
wouldn't surprise me to hear that they would assume that their version
of English is the only right one.  Aside from the roommate, I don't
know of any American dialect which doesn't distinguish between
past and past participle--even Black dialect does.

   As for *b(r)oughten, I have never heard it (unless from a young child),
but I have heard "brung", which I associate with Appalachia (I grew up
in Virginia.)
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To: tchrist@convex.UUCP: if you would post a path from a backbone
or INTERNET site, people (e.g., me) could E-mail to you.
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From: dube@acf3.NYU.EDU
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In article <15753@felix.UUCP> jsf@felix.UUCP (Jeff Freedman) writes:
>In article <2530@arthur.cs.purdue.edu> jenkins@arthur.cs.purdue.edu (Colin Jenkins) writes:
>>As long as these men don't treat *you* as
>>a sex object after returning from a T&A place, what is your complaint?
>
>So if my fellow employees go out and beat up a few Jews, but then come back
>and say,  "Don't worry Jeff, you're a good guy, not at all like THEM", then
>I shouldn't let it bother me?

Ira Kaplan  kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu  a guest on this account, responds:
Here's my point of view.
The essential thing is whether the man considers women to be *only* sex objects
or does he consider women as real persons that have a sexual aspect?
I consider myself more feminist than the average US male, and it bothered
me a bit when I realized the extent to which I notice what women around me
look like when I take the train.
But then I contrast this with the fact that if introduced to a woman, I
could speak to her for hours and later have no recollection of what she
looks like below the neck.
I smuggly congratulated myself for being able to see women both ways.
I can't guarantee the attitudes of the person originally refered to,
but I would say that many men can respect women as people even though
they engage in these activities.*

*I only refer to men that may try to be fair on a personal level, but
are essentially non-political.  Such a person could reasonably justify
the action to themselves.  A more activist or politically minded male
feminist would probably recognize the social harm done in supporting
such establishments economically, and more generally with their presence.
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From: dube@acf3.NYU.EDU
Date: 14-Dec-87 13:43 EST
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Subject: Erotic Literature
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A while ago during some discussions on pornography and so forth, a few
examples of erotic literature for women were discussed which the net-people
seemed to have a very favorable reaction to.
My wife's birthday is around the corner, so could you please tell me
what it was (Ladies Home Erotica?) and where I might get it? (I live in
NYC, so it should be easy 8^) )
Please email to me at    kaplani@csd2.nyu.edu
Thanks,
	Ira Kaplan