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From: howard@cpocd2.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: One Quick and Dumb ?
Message-ID: <1006@cpocd2.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 3-Dec-87 13:36:35 EST
Article-I.D.: cpocd2.1006
Posted: Thu Dec  3 13:36:35 1987
Date-Received: Sun, 6-Dec-87 21:08:52 EST
References: <12355061423032@G.BBN.COM> <35264@sun.uucp>
Reply-To: howard@cpocd2.UUCP (Howard A. Landman)
Organization: Intel Corp. ASIC Systems Organization, Chandler AZ
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In article <35264@sun.uucp> chuq@sun.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>[the following not attributed]
>>  I have always wanted to write an application that does not use
>>  the menu bar but instead DRAW USING THE FULL MAC SCREEN including
>>  where the menu bar is.
>
>I wouldn't recommend this, as it will cause the application to break under
>Multifinder. Everything that I've got on my system that attempts to grab the
>menubar blows up when I'm running under multifinder (including SuperPaint
>1.0p in full screen mode). The system really, really wants the menubar there.

Try going into HyperCard, bringing up the message window, and executing

	hide menubar

I haven't tried this under MF, but it does hide the menubar under Finder 5.5.
This is necessary, because some stacks USE the extra space (for example, the
rather odd periodic table stack that went through comp.binaries.mac recently,
and a rather infantile porn stack that someone gave me).  I would be *VERY*
surprised if this failed under MF - Atkinson has specifically stated that he
wanted HC to give programmers control of the entire screen.  The HC paint tools
work under where the menubar used to be.

Oh yes, for the extremely naive, the way to get your menubar back is:

	show menubar

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	Howard A. Landman
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