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From: draper@xxx.dec.com (11-Dec-1987 1321)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: problems with vanilla v3.51 uucp on 3b1
Message-ID: <8712111822.AA04054@decwrl.dec.com>
Date: 11 Dec 87 21:21:00 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
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as the subject said, i've got the vanilla uucp system 
installed (obligatory wish for hdb . . . )

i'm able to contact systems ok thru ph0 and the OBM.  a
direct connection thru tty000 across a null-modem
cable is another story, tho.

i've got a cable running from the 3b1 to a dec pro380
(pdp11/70) running venix 5.0 (sys5.2.0).  the pro
has getty running on the serial port, and i'm able to
connect and login in fine from the 3b1 using cu.
the 3b1 L.sys entry is
	thepro Any tty000 9600 tty000 ogin:--ogin:-- nuucp
similarly, on the pro, the USERFILE entry is
	nuucp,giff	/
(the 3b1 is named giff, the pro380 is thepro.)

i can queue jobs on the 3b1 for the pro380 w/o a problem.
unfortunately, when uucico starts up, it immediately
fails on the connection.  the message in /usr/spool/uucp/LOGFILE
is something like
	. . . . DIRECT WRITE TO TTY000 FAILED (TIMEOUT)

i really don't know where to go from here.  i've tried
manually starting uucico up with a -x4 debug level, but i
don't understand all the messages and i still don't understand
why it's failing.  i'd appreciate any and all suggestions;
i'll summarize email responces.


btw:
am i being incompetant, or were the man entries for
uucp/uux/uupick/uusend/uustat/uuclean/uucico and the one
"high-level" chapter in the programmer's manual the only
information about uucp in the 3.51 doc set???  if so, 

i see no excuse for that.  i realize this is a "user-friendly"
system with menu's for editting the L[.-]* files, but a few
pages on the file formats should be in the docs.  i had to
go the the docs on another system to understand them.




bruce draper
draper@tallis.dec.com