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From: apeed@ihlpg.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Andy Peed speaks for her fellow women.
Message-ID: <4401@ihlpg.ATT.COM>
Date: Thu, 3-Dec-87 19:52:33 EST
Article-I.D.: ihlpg.4401
Posted: Thu Dec  3 19:52:33 1987
Date-Received: Sun, 6-Dec-87 20:10:37 EST
References: <5909@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> <1842@chinet.UUCP> <5944@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> <2282@killer.UUCP>
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL
Lines: 55
Summary: In a word, Mark: WHAAAAT???!?!??!!?! (with extreme puzzlement)

In article <2282@killer.UUCP>, era@killer.UUCP (Mark E. Smith) writes:
> In article <4389@ihlpg.ATT.COM> apeed@ihlpg.ATT.COM (Andrew B. Peed) writes:
> >In article <6132@jade.BERKELEY.EDU>, era1987@violet.berkeley.edu writes:
> >> 
> >> What do you do when you're not sharing the women and the wine,
> >> Deadhead?  Share your pseudos with other arrogant SOB's?
> >
> >Mark, think  about the term "SOB". It stands for the phrase "son of a bitch."
> >You have, in effect called some of your fellow women by a term which they
> >no doubt would consider derogatory.
> 
> Au contraire.  Several women are proud of the fact that they are
> truly free and liberated to call themselves the same things men
> call them.  

Mark, I do not deny that you are free and liberated.
      I do not deny your right to call YOURSELF a bitch.
      That is YOUR prerogative.
      I am trying to point out that OTHER women (yes, there are other women
      on the net) might take offense to being referred to by an expression
      which should refer to a female dog.
>            They fought for that right, and are sure to flame you
> for trying to deny them the right to degrade themselves the way
> men have traditionally degraded them.
Mark, YOU are the first.
      Propagation delay, I hear you say.
      Look at my path. I work at AT&T Bell Labs in Naperville. There are
      MANY women here who consider themselves liberated. I expect some of
      them read alt.flame- those that do were able to read my message the
      same day it was posted.
      None of them have responded.
> 
> They're not my fellows, but they could very well be your women.
> 
Mark, ???!? I think I'm supposed to resent this. However, it's so oblique that 
      I won't bother.
> 
> You have a right to be whatever you wish.  It might be helpful 
> for others who don't yet know what you are, if you make an effort
> to find out what a .plan is and put such information in your .plan.
> 
> --Mark

Mark, in these days of electronic communication, I practice an ancient 
      religion. It is called Personal Communication. Am I so unreasonable
      to expect people who want to know more about me to ASK? Please, anyone:
      feel free to send me E-mail. If it is of a coherent, reasonable tone,
      I will respond in kind. If it is rambling, incendiary, illogical and
      unkind, I may or may not be polite. It will depend upon my mood.
 

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Andrew B. Peed                                        UUCP: ihnp4!ihlpg!apeed
AT&T Bell Laboratories                BITNET: moss!ihlpg!apeed at rutgers.edu
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