Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!think!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!pro-pac.UUCP!infoapple From: infoapple@pro-pac.UUCP (Info Apple) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Copy ][+ and backing up Appleworks Message-ID: <8712030256.AA05496@crash.cts.com> Date: Wed, 2-Dec-87 19:15:53 EST Article-I.D.: crash.8712030256.AA05496 Posted: Wed Dec 2 19:15:53 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 6-Dec-87 09:27:28 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: pnet01!pro-sol!pro-pac!infoapple@nosc.MIL Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 41 In Article: <> Message-Id: <8712021256.AA01197@crash.cts.com> <> From: System Operator<> Subject: AppleWorks Data Base Files dale@pro-colony writes: <> 1) What copy program ddo you use to make backups of AppleWorks? <> Do NOT use COPY ][+, LOCKSMITH, DISK MUNCHER, etc. If you do, you <> are only asking for trouble. They will not copy the 5.25" version <> of AppleWorks correctly. What concensus has lead people to believe that Copy ][+ or Locksmith wil NOT copy the unprotected 5.25 version of Appleworks? These are programs that take the total track image (in fast copy modes) and read it, verify it (three times, take the two that match) and then write the image to disk. How can you say that they do not copy it write? I remember when I first got Appleworks, if I didn't have Copy ][+ 4.something back then, I would have been highly upset at Apple, because no one in our user group could get the Apple System disk filer to copy Appleworks correctly! Doing a whole volume copy with the filer produced a disk that has incorrect block assignments and a couple of other horrid things. Copy ][+ has never failed me, and is a lot better utility than anything that Apple, itself, has ever put out. Locksmith, although I don't use it, is an excellent copier that I have never heard bad things of. ON the other hand, Apple's filer is junk. Oh yeah, admittedly, there might be a problem with Disk Muncher, but that is because it doesn't verify a track's address markers (I believe). Todd South -=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=- -=--=- uucp: crash!pnet01!pro-simasd!pro-pac!tsouth [or root] -=--=- -=--=- proline: [ pro-simasd pro-sol ] !pro-pac!tsouth -=--=- -=--=--=--=--=--=- -=--=--=--=--=--=- -=--=- Todd \ Ewa -=--=- Hawaii -=--=- E=mc2 -=--=- -=--=- South \ Beach -=--=- ~\ /~ -=--=- (sometimes) -=--=- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ \/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [_]-[_]-[_]-[_]-[_]-[_]-[_]-[_]-[_]-[<>]-[_]-[_]-[_]-[_]-[_]-[_]-[_]-[_]-[_] !*! Don't some people have pushy .signature files! Sheesh!!!