Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!hpda!hpsemc!bd From: bd@hpsemc.UUCP (bob desinger) Newsgroups: comp.emacs Subject: Re: Using RMAIL under HPUX Message-ID: <3720010@hpsemc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 30-Nov-87 19:26:35 EST Article-I.D.: hpsemc.3720010 Posted: Mon Nov 30 19:26:35 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 5-Dec-87 02:34:41 EST References: <8711251805.AA02481@mitre-bedford.ARPA> Organization: HP SEMC, Cupertino, CA Lines: 29 Tim Wade mentions a diagnostic: > movemail: error creating lock file Is the problem that movemail isn't setgid to mail? System V (and HP-UX, which is SysV) implements mail security by making the maildrop directory /usr/mail writable to the group mail. Programs wishing to play in /usr/mail must be setgid and owned by group mail. Here's how it is on our HP-UX system, a model 840: drwxrwxr-x 2 bin mail 1024 Nov 25 18:45 /usr/mail -rwxr-sr-x 2 root mail 137216 Oct 2 00:00 /bin/rmail If this is the problem (I haven't looked at movemail's sources and they're not on-line right now), do the following: cd /usr/local/lib/emacs/etc # or wherever movemail lives chgrp mail movemail chmod g+s movemail The last two steps will require super-user permissions unless you are a member of group `mail' (in /etc/logingroups or /etc/groups). I don't use rmail, but I do use `M-x display-time' which uses the loadst program. I had to do a similar thing so that loadst could read /dev/kmem: change loadst's group to comply with System V's protection mechanism. bob desinger HP Software Evaluation and Miplanplanp. .vax