Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!sri-unix!rutgers!uwvax!uwmacc!uwmcsd1!ig!jade!ucbvax!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: Re: 68020 to 68000 pinout conversion Message-ID: <3457@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Thu, 3-Dec-87 09:41:46 EST Article-I.D.: hoptoad.3457 Posted: Thu Dec 3 09:41:46 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 7-Dec-87 03:43:17 EST References: <1987Dec2.130217.18893@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 55 Motorola put out a tech note on this some time ago; below is a copy of a message on it. When I was at Sun, we made a couple of "turbo" piggyback boards that did this, so we could play with 68020 samples without building a whole new CPU board. It is really easy to do, I think it took 1 or 2 pals and some sockets. With the cache off, it runs SLOWER than the original 68000, since it always prefetches 4 bytes of instructions, even when it won't use the last two. With the cache on, it's somewhat faster than the 68000 -- the simplistic benchmarks I can recall ran something like 10-50% faster. One good reason to do this would be if you want floating point -- the turbo board can easily have a 6888[12] on it, running full speed. You might be able to run the 68020 at double the clock speed of the 68000 socket, making it a bit faster, but this will only win while executing out of the I-cache, otherwise you wait for the old RAM. Our turbo board didn't do this since we didn't have 20MHz 68020s then. More interesting would be a 68030 piggyback, since it has not only an MMU, but a data cache that could conceivably decouple you from the slow memory bus enough to make a difference. I don't have the 68030 datasheets to see how easy this is, though -- I hear they didn't make it pin compatible with anything. John From: randyb@halley.UUCP (randy banton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k Subject: 68020/68010 app note Message-ID: <283@halley.UUCP> Date: 25 Aug 87 21:06:06 GMT Organization: Tandem Computers, Austin, TX I found one dated 4/29/85. The title is: MC68020 & MC68881 Platform Board for Evaluation in a 16-bit System ***Revision 2*** Advanced Microcomputer Applications Engineering Microprocessot Products Group Motorola Inc. Austin, TX The trouble is there is no official app note number on it. It is about 20 pages long with text, schematics, pal listings, and benchmark results. Randy Banton -- {pyramid,ptsfa,amdahl,sun,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu gnu@toad.com "Watch me change my world..." -- Liquid Theatre