Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!uwvax!oddjob!gargoyle!ihnp4!ihlpf!straka From: straka@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Straka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: MacUser Hypercard coverage (now Hypercard user interface) Message-ID: <2896@ihlpf.ATT.COM> Date: Mon, 30-Nov-87 09:01:19 EST Article-I.D.: ihlpf.2896 Posted: Mon Nov 30 09:01:19 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 3-Dec-87 04:54:44 EST References: <34557@sun.uucp> <7469@eddie.MIT.EDU> <34647@sun.uucp> Reply-To: straka@ihlpf.UUCP (55223-Straka,R.J.) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, Illinois Lines: 38 Xref: mnetor comp.sys.mac.hypercard:183 comp.sys.mac:10431 In article <34647@sun.uucp> cramer@sun.UUCP (Sam Cramer) writes: >Chuq and Zigurd write defending Hypercard against attack on inconsistent >user interface grounds. I beg to differ. > >I find the non-standard user interface of Hypercard most distressing. The >strongest point of the Macintosh is its simple and consistent user interface. > >The non-standard interface of Hypercard is a giant step backward. Hypercard >is a great application, with a lousy user interface - lousy because it is >not consistent with the vast majority of Mac applications. I'm amazed >that it made it out in its current form. While the MacUser criticism is >overstated, the basic point is valid: Hypercard does not conform to the >Mac user interface. > >Sam Cramer {cbosgd,decwrl,hplabs,seismo,ucbvax}!sun!cramer cramer@sun.com Remember MacPaint? Yup! Written by Bill Atkinson? Yup! Was it a brilliant, seminal piece of work? Yup! Did it meet the Mac user interface guidelines then? No!!! Did anybody care (then)? Not apparently. Does anybody care now? Yup! That's why Ann Arbor, ... came out with Fullpaint, ... Have you seen Hypercard? Yup! Written by Bill Atkinson? Yup! Is it a brilliant, seminal piece of work? Yup! Does it meet the Mac user interface guidelines now? No!!! Does anybody care? Well, now we (and Apple) should know better. Will we see FullCard soon? (Well, maybe a bit after we see FullWrite :-)) (I think you all get my message. Yes, both of them) Sounds like another opportunity out there! -- Rich Straka ihnp4!ihlpf!straka Advice for the day: "MSDOS - just say no."