Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!amdcad!sun!pitstop!sundc!seismo!uunet!munnari!murdu!u3369429 From: u3369429@murdu.OZ (Michael Bednarek) Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: Are VMS and VAX synonymous (Was: Re: VMS games) Message-ID: <1331@murdu.OZ> Date: 10 Dec 87 00:27:19 GMT References: <39rrk@byuvax.bitnet> Followup-To: comp.os.vms Organization: I.A.E.S.R., Melbourne University Lines: 44 In article <39rrk@byuvax.bitnet> rrk@byuvax.bitnet writes: >It is obvious that VMS is the operating system of the VAX just as DOS isthe >operating system of the PC. > [...] >And is Fortran the language of VMS? [...] > MACRO32 is the >only language found on all VMS VAX's. Certainly Universities will cling >to Fortran. It was there when the professors went to school. I have never >been at a non-university site that had fortran. > [...] >Fortran and Cobol are a little like Latin and French. They are both very >established in certain environments, but I would never classify either one as >being "The Language". Hmm, I've never worked in a shop without Fortran (5 jobs in the last 18 years, 4 Market Research Institutes, 1 University). Some quotes from "Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL" by Ed Post: The easiest way to tell a Real Programmer from the crowd is by the programming language he (or she) uses. Real Programmers use FORTRAN. Quiche Eaters use PASCAL. * Real Programmers do List Processing in FORTRAN. * Real Programmers do String Manipulation in FORTRAN. * Real Programmers do Accounting (if they do it at all) in FORTRAN. * Real Programmers do Artificial Intelligence programs in FORTRAN. If you can't do it in FORTRAN, do it in assembly language. If you can't do it in assembly language, it isn't worth doing. Besides, the determined Real Programmer can write FORTRAN programs in any language. Michael Bednarek Institute of Applied Economic and Social Research (IAESR) Melbourne University, Parkville 3052, AUSTRALIA, Phone : +61 3 344 5744 Domain: u3369429@{murdu.oz.au | ucsvc.dn.mu.oz.au} or mb@munnari.oz.au "bang": ...UUNET.UU.NET!munnari!{murdu.oz | ucsvc.dn.mu.oz}!u3369429 "POST NO BILLS."