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From: pavel@cornell.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.lang.st80
Subject: Re: Smalltalk-80 Licenses
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Date: Mon, 6-Jun-83 23:09:19 EDT
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I should really clear up some misconceptions that are running rampant on this
group.  Firstly, and most importantly, qubix!msc must have either spoken to
Dave Robson quite a long while ago or gravely misunderstood him.  The second 
book in the series is NOT "Creating a User Interface...", it is "Smalltalk 80:
Bits of History, Words of Advice", edited by Glenn Krasner.  This is primarily
a book describing some of the implementation experiences of the Software Concepts
Group here at PARC.  The book on the User interface, by Adele Goldberg, will be
the third book in the series.

Glenn's book is in the home stretch of production, he having received some
pages to look over for final approval.  The current release date, which looks firm,
is July 15.

As for Adele's book describing the User Interface of the ST80 system, not only
has it been started, but fairly complete drafts have existed around here for 
several months.  In fact, I just finished learning the system by proofing the
next-to-last draft (the "get your comments in now or forever hold your peace"
draft).  She is currently working on putting the final touches on the hundreds of
illustrations and is beginning work on the design of the chapter-beginning
art work.  She is just a few steps behind Glenn as far as getting pages to
look at goes.  The interface book will really only be useful to those people
who have a running ST80 system.  Almost the entire book is structured around
examples of everything.  However, they may be enough pictures (there are a LOT
of them) to understand it.  One will certainly be able to get a certain feel for
the general philosophy of the interface design.

As for Hal Perkins' query about ST80 on a SUN, all I'm allowed to say is that
an implementation exists here on a bare SUN (no UNIX) which is currently
lacking only a virtual memory and some details.  To answer Hal's question,
yes, other people have thought of it.

In general, I hereby offer my services as an information outlet from the
Smalltalk Group.  I am here as a summer student and will also be here most of 1984.
I'll warn you ahead of time, however, that questions about proprietary info
won't be answered.  Mail can be sent to me most easily and consistently at my
Cornell mailbox, not here at PARC, as my actual location is somewhat dynamic.

	Pavel Curtis
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