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From: mark@hp-kirk.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Regulations Query - (nf)
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Date: Wed, 22-Jun-83 03:32:17 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jun 22 03:32:17 1983
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hp-kirk!mark    Jun 20 06:01:00 1983

     I admit that my question was more directed to what is legal rather
     than what is safe with regard to safety pilots; however, even the
     matter of safety is one that can't be shrugged off simply by saying
     that to be safe the safety pilot must be at least private rated.  Is a
     student pilot (I refer here to one who has been signed off for solo
     flight and has done so in the plane in question) an unsafe pilot?  It
     was pointed out that the safety pilot might be required to take
     control of the plane and recover from an unusual attitude (I love that
     phrase) perhaps fairly close to the ground.  Indeed this is a task
     that the student pilot is not likely to be skilled at, but I would
     also point out that it is a task that the typical private pilot or
     even commercial pilot is not likely to be skilled at (as a side
     question I am curious about the training that CFIs -who are skilled at
     it- have in wresting controls away from hopelessly confused students
     to recover from the proverbial unusual attitude). My only point is
     that the FAA regulations (even when clearly stated) are not in any
     sense adequate for determining what is safe.  This is always the sole
     and ultimate responsibility of the pilot; thus when I refer to the
     FARs my major interest is what is legal, safety is not something I
     look up in a book.

     Finally, as was pointed out, not only does one need concern themselves
     with what is safe and what is legal but also with what is insured, and
     alas that is all too often the limiting case in determining what a
     pilot (particularly one such as myself who rents aircraft) may and may
     not do.

                                        Mark "Death" Rowe
                                        hp-pcd!hp-cvd!mark
                                        Corvallis, Oregon