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From: toddv@tekmdp.UUCP
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Subject: GOOD INEXPENSIVE FILM AND PROCESSING (long)
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Date: Thu, 9-Jun-83 16:04:10 EDT
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Posted: Thu Jun  9 16:04:10 1983
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In answer to an inquiry by mail.  Thought I would post to the net.

The film is actually Kodak movie film trailer.
It is marketed under the "names" of 5247 and 5293.
I prefer the 5293 for both color and speed.

5247:
ASA rated at 100.
May be pushed to 400 and it still looks better than the Kodak film
you can buy in the department store.

5293:
ASA rated at 250.
May be pushed to 1000.  I push it to 1000 (most often) and 500 (sometimes)
and I have not been dissapointed.  When I'm shooting in low light situations,
I typically expose it at 800 and have it processed at 1000.
With extreme low light, you get the picture but there is some graniness.
There is no problem with normal indoor lighting.
I typically use a flash with the ASA 1000 to give my flash more reach.  The
resultant photos are excelent.


Both these films may be exposed under tungsten lighting with no ill effect.
You must simply tell the lab to compensate for this.
Of course, each roll must be shot at the same film speed and lighting (tungsten
or daylight).

I have experienced some problems with shooting ASA 1000 at the beach (same roll
was used indoors and out).  My Rollei SL35E only goes to 1/1600th of a second.
At f22 this is often inadequate (even with exposure compensation for the beach).
I don't have any neutral density filters.  Watch out for difficulties such as
this.  My solution was to buy a Nikon FE2 (1/4000th) but I don't have a lens
for it yet.

PRICES
For developing and mounting slides, a roll of uncut negatives in a protective 
liner, and a new roll of film, the charge (recently raised) is $6.50 (six fifty)

I don't recall the price for slides, negatives, and prints. (~17.00 ouch!)

No extra charge for push processing.

DISADVANTAGES
You can't take your film just anywhere to have it developed.  Only labs
set up for this kind of film can process it (not Fotomat or Fox Photo).

Reprints from your negatives can cost more (I think).  I haven't really 
checked the prices for three or four years so I'm not positive about this.

ADVANTAGES
Imagine carrying a roll of film that you can shoot either tungsten or daylight,
at ASA 250, 500, or 1000!  That's 6 combo's!  If you go indoors (natural 
lighting) to outdoors and back again alot, you can simply buy an 85B filter
and put it on when you go outdoors (it will even help cut out some light
outdoors). That means of course developing your film as tungsten.

(Don't use an 80A indoors and develop as daylight.  The 80A will cost you
lots of light indoors which is precisely the ennvironment that you need all
the light you can get.)

If this is confusing, you don't really need to worry about it.  Just pretend
your shooting ektachrome.

MY SUPPLIER
I use MSI Color Labs in Portland OR:

MSI Color Labs
6018 SE 45th
Portland, OR 97206

They also have labs in Woodland Hills CA and Jamaica NY.  Write to the above 
address for film.  Cost is 2.25 per roll to buy it plus postage. (I'd give
them 37 cents for the first roll and 34 cents for each additional roll).
You might just inquire about their rates first and save yourself guessing.

DISCLAIMER
I assume no responsibility for your interactions with this company.  I do not
work for or own stock in this company.  I have found them helpful in my
photograpic efforts.  Act on this article at your own risk.

                                  Todd Vierheller

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