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From: noah@genrad.UUCP
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Subject: nice guys finish last and how to attract a woman
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Date: Wed, 25-May-83 14:47:22 EDT
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Posted: Wed May 25 14:47:22 1983
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I posted this article a few weeks ago, but it seems that it never made it.
Here it is again for those of you who didn't get it.

I've been watching the discussion of "nice guys finish last", and my
experiences seem to indicate that this is true most of the time.  For a long
time I was what you would call a really nice guy, that is truly concerned about
other peoples feelings and would avoid hurting anyone.  Let me tell you that
being nice didn't work.  Not only did I get hurt alot myself, most women
had little interest.  Lately, I have tried being less nice (but not crude or
rude) and it does produces more results.  Being less nice also increases
the woman's perception of your self-confidence, the single most important
quality women look for in men (all of my investigation of what women like
lead me to this conclusion).  Women want excitement in their men, and want to
be treated like someone very special.  They want to be romanced, and they
want men to pursue them.  Men, on the other hand, have difficulty understanding
what women want, because men want different things.  Men want love and
affection, sex, and fun & excitement.

Now I know someone is going to ask: "Since you know so much about women, are
you happy with your women?".  Well, no.  Underneath I'm still too nice and
detest having to be uncaring.  It takes a long time to change oneself.

For those of you who are interested here are my pointers for attracting
female partners for relationships:

1.	Give her compliments.  Don't over do it, but do tell her she looks
	nice (women spend a lot of time and energy to look nice.  They want
	their efforts to be appreciated), tell her what you like about her
	(her eyes, face, her personality, handwriting, etc.  Don't restrict
	your compliments to her body -- she wants you to be interested in
	HER), and tell her that you feel comfortable around her.  Don't lie,
	(she can perceive your truthfulness from your body language and your
	eyes) but do let her know she's been noticed.

2.	Look at her when you talk to her.  It has been said that the eyes
	are mirrors of the soul, and direct friendly eye contact is an
	excellent aid to communication.  Romantic eye contact also seems to
	be one item in womans' romantic fantasies.  Don't leer, as the woman will
	probably become defensive.

3.	Be yourself.  Don't act like someone else.  Its too much work and
	it frustrates women who are trying to get to know you.

4.	Let women know some of your weaknesses or touchy spots.  Don't spill
	everything, but let a few human weaknesses out. (small ones if you
	don't know them well).  If you are invulnerable, women will have
	difficulty identifying with you.  Many women love to talk about
	feelings, and if you are with one who does, give her something to be
	interested in.

5.	Leave sexual comments to body language, don't say them.  The man
	who says "hi beautiful.  You have a beautiful set of knockers" will
	most likely be left alone.  Do use body language, but keep it
	subtle.  While we are on the subject, I've been watching the
	discussion on "pawing".  I have found that touching a woman in
	order to attract her will never work, unless she already wants you
	to touch her.  If she doesn't want to be petted before you start,
	then you blew it.  Most women will become defensive when pawed
	before they want it.  So the rule of thumb is:  Don't touch unless
	you know through reading her body language that she wants you to.
	Holding hands is an exception though.  Most women won't feel too
	defensive if you reach for her hand.  If they object, they will just
	take their hand back.  You wont get slapped, and you wont build up
	a wall of caution.

Naturally, these are just my opinions.  I hope some of you find it interesting.
I'll bet someone out there in netland will notice my "scientific" approach
in figuring out women.  This was the only approach I knew, and my social
skills had to be learned.  They were not natural.  So dont flame!

					Single and looking,
						Noah Morgan