Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!genrad!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!edhall@rand-unix From: edhall%rand-unix@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: Unix Security & Randoms Message-ID: <2359@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Mon, 20-Jun-83 20:00:00 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.2359 Posted: Mon Jun 20 20:00:00 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 22-Jun-83 04:09:37 EDT Lines: 17 In my experience most sys-crackers are 18 or under, and are out to `prove' themselves or to engage in a cat-and-mouse game with an `authority'. Many are very intelligent and talented; I can only shake my head over the incredible waste of their mis-directed efforts. However, a lot more of the sys-crackers I've known about have gone on to have useful educations and careers than the heavy drug-users. And I think mistakes by CE's caused us as much system downtime. But the risk is not so much to the university as to the exponentially- growing community of commercially-owned computer systems (many of them UNIX-based). Perhaps university computer centers should take some care lest their systems become breeding grounds for more serious sorts of computer crime. Most student sys-crackers outgrow their ways, but I don't think we should ignore that some don't. -Ed