Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!genrad!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!tekmdp!dadla!dadla-b!hutch From: hutch@dadla-b.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Orphaned Response - (nf) Message-ID: <465@dadla-b.UUCP> Date: Tue, 14-Jun-83 13:27:56 EDT Article-I.D.: dadla-b.465 Posted: Tue Jun 14 13:27:56 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 16-Jun-83 01:22:07 EDT Lines: 18 jack at hp-dcd gives us a nice but extremely oversimplistic view of religion, and a simple counter is possible. So, religion gives us Ayatollahs and Fallwells and Crusades, eh? In that case, what has anti-religion given us? The "cultural revolution" in China, where millions were killed for being educated; Hitler and his cronies, and the systematic suppression of Jews and Christians in the USSR. On the other hand, religion obviously has not ever inspired anything positive in human history, right? It had nothing to do with Mohandas Gandhi, or with Mother Teresa, or with Saint Francis of Asissi. Right. Sure. And while we are on the subject of self-delusion, it looks to me as if the oversimplistic and arrogant views that claim that there is unequivocally NO deity, NO validity to personal experience, is a fairly deluded one. Hutch