Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!genrad!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!FIGMO@usc-eclc From: FIGMO%usc-eclc@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: More comments about UNIX Security. Message-ID: <2368@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Mon, 20-Jun-83 21:54:00 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.2368 Posted: Mon Jun 20 21:54:00 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 22-Jun-83 05:13:40 EDT Lines: 41 From: Lynn GoldReturn-path: <@MIT-MC:unix-wizards-request@BRL-VGR> Received: from MIT-MC by USC-ECLC; Mon 20 Jun 83 18:44:18-PDT Received: From Brl.ARPA by BRL-VGR via smtp; 20 Jun 83 21:33 EDT Received: From Aids-Unix.ARPA by BRL via smtp; 20 Jun 83 21:27 EDT Date: 20 Jun 1983 18:22-PDT From: Howard Alt Subject: Re: More comments about UNIX Security. To: SJOBRG.ANDY@mit-oz, mit-mc@aids-unix MMDF-Warning: Parse error in preceeding line at BRL.ARPA Cc: unix-wizards@brl Message-Id: <83/06/20 1822.366@aids-unix> In-Reply-To: SJOBRG.ANDY%MIT-OZ's message of Mon, 20 Jun 1983 1954 EDT Unforutnatly, the systems that are incredibly insecure must be excluded from the mailing list. Like (sorry), the ITS machines. I'm sure that there are others... Probably a good policy is only Unix machines. (boy am I going to hear about this one...) Howard. ************* You're right (not your idea, but that you're going to hear about this one). What makes you think that Unix is any more secure than any other operating system? Yeah, the ITS machines are insecure, but 1) There are those of us who have our "ARPAnet junk mail" sent to an ITS site, from which it is forwarded to a more secure site. I do this because when my system is off the air for one reason or another (our ECU died Friday and won't be fixed till at least Thursday), I can manually re- route the forwarding to another mailbox where I can answer it without it bouncing back like crazy. As for secure/insecure sites, TOPS-20 and Tenex sites are about as secure as Unix sites. Much of how secure a site is has to do with how it's run. If you have a site on which everybody's mother, brother and sister and pet rock has every available priviledge known to mankind, your site is likely to be less secure than one with a limited number of privileged users. --Lynn -------