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From: johnr@tekmdp.UUCP
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Subject: Born again
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Date: Fri, 10-Jun-83 17:13:30 EDT
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Posted: Fri Jun 10 17:13:30 1983
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How can one claim to be a Christian, and in the same sentance deny being
born again,  after all, Christ said " You must be born again ".
			Ken Cochran    hou5d!kwmc

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I did not see the original article the above quote is a reply to.
I know not what others may think, but I can easily answer for myself.

I am a Christian and I have NOT been born again.  Christ said to
Nicodemus:

      ...Except a man be born again, he cannot see the
      kingdom of God.  Jn 3:3

and

      ...Ye must be born again.  Jn 3:7

Christ also said:

      That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is
      born of the Spirit is spirit.  Jn 3:6

and

      The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound
      thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it
      goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.  Jn 3:8

I am still flesh, not spirit.  I am not invisible.  I have been
begotten of God, but I will not be born again until the resurrection.

John Rutis