Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 6/7/83; site hao.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!band From: band@hao.UUCP Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Michelin vs Phoenix? Message-ID: <558@hao.UUCP> Date: Thu, 23-Jun-83 18:36:09 EDT Article-I.D.: hao.558 Posted: Thu Jun 23 18:36:09 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Jun-83 14:10:00 EDT Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder CO Lines: 28 I am in the market for a new set of tires for my Rabbit and I am trying to decide between Michelin XZX and Phoenix 3011 (in size 175-70/13). Yes I know that in terms of stick to the road performance the Phoenix is the better tire, is only a little more expensive, and I am told lasts almost as long* (as I'm not a street racer). What I want to know is how well do Phoenix 3011's do on ice and snow? What is the trade off between summer and winter performance? For example, I used to have a set of Simpert M401's which were fine on dry roads but not so good in rain, snow, or ice. (Well I'm nice: they were terrible.) I know studded snow tires are much better than either for that, but I don't want to go that route ($$$!). In my opinion the my Michelins do as nicely as I could expect on ice. Does anyone have any opinions (preferrably based on experience)? Thanks in advance, Peter Bandurian ucbvax!hplabs!hao!band decvax!brl-bmd!hao!band seismo!hao!band * Actually, I am told that nothing lasts very long on a Rabbit (tires that is :-). I got about 26k miles out of my last set of 155/13 Michelins which is apparently typical.