Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!vax135!ariel!hou5f!hou5a!hou5d!hogpc!houxm!ihnp4!ixn5c!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!wombat From: wombat@uicsl.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: RE: A Flame at Affirmative Action - (nf) Message-ID: <2234@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 15-Jun-83 22:54:06 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.2234 Posted: Wed Jun 15 22:54:06 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Jun-83 20:47:19 EDT Lines: 26 #R:houxj:-26000:uicsl:4300015:000:1466 uicsl!wombat Jun 15 10:37:00 1983 Just think about how hiring works in many departments for a minute. A position opens, and a few people in the department have friends they can recommend for the job. These friends are almost always of the same race as the person recommending them. They are also getting the first crack at the job, the general public coming in only if none of the friends is able to fill the spot. "It's not what you know, but who you know" is still responsible for much of the hiring done these days. Some companies even encourage that by offering vacations and bonuses to employees that recommend friends the company can hire. Since most hiring is done by whites, and most friendships are not interracial, someone needs to step in and be the friend of minorities. AAP is the friend. Since I doubt that the method will change, something like AAP needs to stick around till there are enough minorities in position to hire others. The government is just a more powerful friend; it's also large enough to require lots of paperwork and red tape. The more the public cooperates, the sooner AAP can be declared unnecessary. So friends of yours have lost out on jobs due to AAP? How did they get the jobs in the first place? Haven't they ever lost out on a job/promotion to a white male they considered less qualified? How many people who have been in both situations complain more and louder about losing out to someone they can call names? Wombat pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!wombat