Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!Dave.Touretzky@CMU-CS-A From: Dave.Touretzky%CMU-CS-A@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: logging instrument time Message-ID: <2476@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Thu, 23-Jun-83 15:03:00 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.2476 Posted: Thu Jun 23 15:03:00 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 25-Jun-83 19:54:56 EDT Lines: 18 If a VFR pilot gets a special VFR clearance, he is still flying VFR, i.e. controlling the airplane by use of visual references. At least, let's hope he's using visual references, because if he isn't he's in violation. Remember that SVFR requires you to remain clear of clouds at all times. It's true that controllers treat special VFR differently, e.g. they will only allow one aircraft in the CZ at a time if that aircraft is operating special VFR, but that has nothing to do with logging time. To log actual instrument time you must control the aircraft SOLELY by reference to instruments. That means either being in cloud, or being in conditions such that there is no visible horizon, e.g. on top of an overcast in very hazy conditions, or over the ocean at night. So even if you're an IFR pilot operating on an IFR flight plan in a control zone with less than 3 miles visibility, if you can see the ground and make out a horizon, you can't log the time as actual instrument conditions. -- Dave Touretzky, CFI-A, IGI