Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!genrad!mit-eddi!mit-vax!eagle!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!SJOBRG.ANDY%MIT-OZ@mit-mc From: SJOBRG.ANDY%MIT-OZ%mit-mc@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: The Security of UNIX - the proposed unix-security Message-ID: <2295@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Fri, 24-Jun-83 00:09:00 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.2295 Posted: Fri Jun 24 00:09:00 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 19-Jun-83 17:31:07 EDT Lines: 21 A few comments...On a number of network hosts, the mail is completely insecure, as are the operating systems (NOTHING is secure!). How do you propose keeping mail sent to these sites secure? Then of course, there is the problem of people getting at the mailer queues or watching all the imp traffic... Of course, once you get to usenet, then there are the >>public<< uucp queues. Don't worry about security holes that are described here. They can (usually -- i haven't seen any that can't) be easily fixed, and >any< responsible system administrator will fix them immediately. (of course, there are those unix systems that aren't on any nets...) All in all, don't bother with being as paranoid as alt@aids-unix suggests (didn't you used to be alt@utexas-11 ??) - the evil ones will always exist, and they will usually be more clever than everyone else. (sorry if this isn't comprehensible - it's late, and i'm running low on caffine...) -andy