Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!genrad!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!ariel!houti!hogpc!houxm!hocda!spanky!burl!duke!unc!tim From: tim@unc.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: A burden both ways Message-ID: <5356@unc.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-Jun-83 22:41:43 EDT Article-I.D.: unc.5356 Posted: Fri Jun 10 22:41:43 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 14-Jun-83 02:51:25 EDT Lines: 46 A challenge to non-believers. Disprove the Nirvana of Buddha, or admit that in fact all that lives is Illusion, and the veracity of the Four Noble Truths. That's right, friends, Larry has converted me to his way of seeing things! I now see that the people who were reported to be witnesses to His miraculous processions were not, as I had believed, simply something made up by later commentators! I see that there is no way that such a thing could have occurred: the TV network news magazines would have jumped all over it! And everyone living then was a bright, educated person, not easily taken in by big-talking Prophets of the Truth who claimed to have witnessed miracles! After all, what possible personal gain could there have been for the early Buddhists? They saw how they were scorned by the Hindus. It would have been much easier to just go back and become good little worshippers of their pagan deities, but NO!! They STUCK with their difficult course, STUCK I say, and WHY DO YOU THINK THAT WAS, my friends? I'LL TELL YOU WHY IT WAS!!! The only reasonable explanation, and this has been supported by many Buddhist lawyers, is that they WITNESSED THE NIRVANA! Let the heathen try to disprove that, my friends. Remember that as you walk through this hideous, atheistic pit we call net.religion. Remember that Buddhism STANDS OR FALLS solely on YOUR BELIEF IN THE NIRVANA! And to those who keep their heads in the sand, refusing to recognize the consequences of Avidhya (primal sin) and their own delusions of selfhood, you will be born again and again, EACH TIME FALLING INTO A LOWER CYCLE OF REBIRTH!!! Let's see those Christians match that, my friends. Why, there are documented cases from reliable witnesses that tell of people having hot lead poured in their ears, sexual abuse by vast and hideous demons, and things more grisly even than that. It doesn't matter if you believe this or not. You will be judged by your own illusionary self and thrown into those fiery lakes, so far from Nirvana, unless of course you can disprove this. But you can't. Nyah nyah nyah. So choke on it. Tim Maroney P.S. My girlfriend has bet me five dollars that Paul Dubuq will reply to this and say that I am a Buddhist.