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- [source07351] Holly Forrest Tamer, http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=stolp&id=I20105 @ RootsWeb
Stolp Line, (Publication Date: 27 MAY 2007
Media: Website / URL).
# ID: I20105
# Name: @*John Botetourt
# Title: Baron
# Sex: M
# Birth: ABT 1264 in Ellingham, Wayland, Norfolk, England
# Death: 25 NOV 1324 in St Briavel Castle, Gloucestershire, England
# Note:
John de Botetourte, said to be son of King Edward I, 1st Lord Botetourte, admiral, governor of Famlingham Castle 1304, MP 1305-1324, d. 25 Nov 1324; m. 1285/92 Maud Fitz Thomas (or Fitz Otho, Otes, Otto), living 28 May 1329, daughter of Thomas
Fitz Otes of Mendlesham, Suffolk, and Beatrice de Beauchamp, daughter of William de Beauchamp of Bedford. For evidence that John de Botetourte was an illegitimate son of King Edward I, see Hailes Abbey Chronicle. The family tree of Botetourte
there given was considered in this case to be completely reliable by Mr. H.C. Richardson, the authority on this line, and agreed to by Sir Anthony Wagner, College of Arms. Though questioned by some, due to an apparent erasure in the parchment,
the Librarian, whose care it resides, stated (and still does) that there are several other erasures and corrections, all apparently contemporary with the preparation of the original document and apparent corrections made at that time by the
author which do not affect this identification. [Ancestral Roots]
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# Note: CP gives John's ancestry as "unknown".
# Note:
# Note: Kay Allen AG, in a posting to soc.genealogy.medieval, cites a TAG article "The Parentage of John Botetourte (died 1324)", by F. N. Craig, July 1998: 145-153, which disproves the royal ancestry and gives a different one.
# Note:
# Note: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
# Note: Page: 122a-31, 216-29
# Note:
# Note: Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
# Note: Page: G. Edward Allen, 9 Sep 1998
# Note:
# Note: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
# Note: Page: 122a-31
# Change Date: 20 OCT 2006
Father: @*Guy Botetourte b: ABT 1239 in Ellingham, Wayland, Norfolk, England
Marriage 1 @*Maud FitzThomas b: ABT 1275 in Mendlesham, Hartismere, Suffolk, England
Children
1. Has Children @*Ada de Botetourt b: ABT 1295 in St Briavel Castle, Gloucestershire, England
2. Has Children @Thomas de Botetourt b: ABT 1289
e-mail: holly_tamer@yahoo.com
- [source475568] Michael Neuman, http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=clcaldwell&id=I029915 @ ralph d'aubigny.ged
Caldwell and related families, (Publication Date: 29 APR 2009
Media: Website / URL).
# ID: I029915
# Name: Thomas de Botetourt
# Sex: M
# Name: Thomas De Botetourt
# Birth: ABT 1294 in Castle St. Briavel, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England
# Death: 1322 in Halesowen, Shropshire, England
Father: John De Botetourt , Lord Botetourt b: ABT 1262 in Castle St. Briavel, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Mother: Maud fitzThomas de Mendlesham b: ABT 1265 in Mendlesham, Suffolk, England
Marriage 1 Joan de Somery b: ABT 1292 in Dudley Castle, Worcestershire, England
Children
1. Has Children Sir John II de Botetourt , Lord Botetourt b: 1318 in Halesowen, Shropshire, England
2. Has Children Maud De Botetourt b: ABT 1312 in Halesowen, Shropshire, England
e-mail: michaelneuman@earthlink.net
- [source409957] Michael Neuman, http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=clcaldwell&id=I024061&style=TABLE @ RootsWeb
Caldwell and related families, (Publication Date: 29 APR 2009
Media: Website / URL).
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