William II Count of Arles & Provence, son of Boso II Count of Avignon & "@N54577@" Arles and Constance de Provence. Born 950 at Arles, Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence, France, died 994 at Arles, Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence, France, 43 or 44 years, buried at Died as a monk in Avignon, France Married at 1st wife to: Arsinde de Comminges Born ± 953 at Comminges, Haute Garonne, Midi Pyrenees, France, died before 984 @@check ancestry Children: 1. Ermengarde of ProvenceBorn ± 976 at Arles, Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence, France, died 994, approximately 18 years 3. Toda of ProvenceBorn ± 980 at Provence, France 4. Arsinde de ProvenceBorn ± 982 at Arles, Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence, France, died before 1014 |
2nd marriage William II Count of Arles & Provence, son of Boso II Count of Avignon & "@N54577@" Arles and Constance de Provence. Married after 984 at 4th husband 2nd wife (at most 10 years married) to: Adelaide (Blanche\Arsinde\Adele) d' Anjou, daughter of Foulques II "Le Bon" Comte d' "@N54414@" Anjou and Gerberga de Gatinais. Born ± 942 at Anjou, France, died 1026 at Arles, Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence, France, approximately 84 years, 1st marriage to: Etienne II de "@N54458@" Brioude, 2nd marriage to: Raymond V Taillefer Count of Toulouse, 3rd marriage to: Louis V "The Do-Nothing" King of France, 4th marriage to: William II Count of Arles & Provence The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 30 Jul 2000, by Todd A Farmerie: From: Todd A. Farmerie (farmerie@interfold.com) Subject: Re: Adelaide d'Anjou (was Tiburge d'Orange) Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval Date: 2000/07/30 TatjanaAV wrote: > > >Blanche appears to have been more of a nickname. She is better known as > >Adelaide, wife of Stephen of Gevaudan, Raymond of Toulouse, Louis V of > >France, and William of Provence. > > So... This Adelaide was indeed married to Raymond de Toulouse? I've seen this > in only one account--all others do not have Raymond in the genealogy at all > (Guillaume III is recorded as the son Raymond III Pons de Toulouse and Garsinde > de Rouergue). Yes. This was only recently rediscovered. There is a surviving charter in which Guillaume names his wife Emma and mother Adelaide, and there is every reason to think this was the same Adelaide, known to have married "Count Raimond". The chronology is aufully long to have William a son of Raymond Pons as well, and the near-contemporary Roda Codex gives Raymond Pons no son William, but does give him a son Raymond. These make it evident that a reworking is in order. > When were Adelaide's parents married? I've seen it as 937, when > she was supposedly born in 930, and has Guillaume III in 947. I don't think there is enough information to provide such a date. Certainly both of them you give are nothing more than guesses, and need to be adjusted. As to William's birth, this date is wrong, based on his mistaken placement as son of Raymond Pons. A more recent guess is about 975. > Who are ALL of her children (with the correct fathers)? Stasser gives her the following: by Etienne de Brioude: 1. Pons de Gevaudan 2. Bertrand de Brioude 3. Etienne de Brioude 4. Ermengarde/Humberge, Countess of Auvergne 5?. daughter, wife of Herbert of Troyes by Raymond: 6. Guillaume Taillefer 7?. Toda/Adelaide, Countess of Besalu (I question this one) 8?. Letgarde by Guillaume II of Provence: 9. Guillaume III 10. Constance, Queen of France taf Marriage Date: 975 Place: 1st wife Children: 1. William III Count of Arles & ProvenceBorn ± 985 at Arles, Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence, France, died 1018, approximately 33 years 2. Constance of "@N54438@" ProvenceBorn ± 986 at Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France, died Jul 25, 1032 at Meulan, Yvelines, Ile-de-France, France, approximately 46 years, buried at St Denis Abbey, Ile-de-France, France 3. Odile de ProvenceBorn ± 987 at Arles, Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence, France, died after 1012 |