woman Adelaide of "Adelaide de Chalon" Burgundy‏‎, daughter of Gislebert Count of Chalons & Burgundy and Ermengarde de Burgundy‏.
Born ‎± 928 at Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France, died ‎ 987‎, approximately 59 years

Married ‎before 944 at 1st husband (at least 24 years married) to:

man Robert I Comte de Meaux & "Robert de Vermandois" Troyes‏‎, son of Herbert II Count of Troyes & Vermandois and Liegarde Princess of France‏.
Born ‎± 920 at Vermandois, Normandy, France, died ‎ Aug 29, 968‎, approximately 48 years

Child:

1.
woman Adelaide de "Adelaide de Troyes" Adelaide Comtessa de VermandoisChalons‏
Born ‎± 945 at Vermandois, Normandy, France, died ‎ Apr 8, 976‎, approximately 31 years

Note: Turton names her Adelaide de Chalons, daughter of Thebault de Chalons. I believe this is a mistake based on the name given by her marriage to her first husband, Lambert d'Auton, Count of Chalons.

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The following was contained in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com:

Jim,

Actually it's even uglier than that. ES indicates that Geoffrey married Adelaide de Vermandois & upon her death, married her widowed mother Adelaide de Burgundy, heiress of Chalons. It also states the same mother & dau also married Lambert, Comte de Chalon-sur-Saone, Vicomte de Dijon.

To see discussions of the absurdity of this go to google - groups - soc.genealogy.medieval & use keyword: grisgonelle

The following archived messages give a good synopsis of the problem:
Mardi Carter 26 Mar 1998
Jim Stevens 26 Mar 1998
Kenneth Harper Finton 26 Mar 1998
Christopher Nash 7 Jun 1998

To date I've not seen a definitive solution.

Regards,
Curt

Note: I have read some of the postings. They seem to indicate that Geoffrey m. this Adelaide (although she is sometimes named "Adele de Donzy" and possibly another Adelaide as well, and that this Adelaide may not have married Lambert d'Autun, Count of Chalons?). The part about the mother & daughter marrying the same people is (as it should be) discounted. I am removing her marriage to Lambert d'Autun, making his wife Adelaide of Burgundy.


2nd marriage
woman Adelaide of "Adelaide de Chalon" Burgundy‏‎, daughter of Gislebert Count of Chalons & Burgundy and Ermengarde de Burgundy‏.

Married ‎after 968 at 2nd husband (approximately 10 years married) to:

man Lambert d' "Lambert de Chalon" Autun , Count of Chalon‏‎
Born ‎ 924 at Autun, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France, died ‎ Feb 22, 978/79 at Chalon-sur-Saone, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France‎, approximately 54 years

I at one time had Lambert's wife as Adelaide de Vermandois, wife of Geoffrey Grisognell Comte d'Anjou, but have changed Lamber's wife to Adelaide of Burgundy. There is some doubt as to the identity of the various Adelaides married to either Geoffrey or Lambert.

Children:

1.
woman Maud (Matilda\Mahaut) de Chalon‏
Born ‎± 969 at Chalon-sur-Saone, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France, died ‎ 1016‎, approximately 47 years

Maud/Matilda definitely married Geoffrey of Semur, but the well-respected German source ES, in one of its conflicting pedigrees, has her also marrying Henry, Duke of Burgundy, and having a daughter Aremburga, who was wife of Dalmas I of Semur. This is probably not true, and ES has been shown to be inconsistent and erroneous in giving the spouse(s) of Henry. The spouse of Henry was a widow of Adalbert I King of Italy, and there is still a lot of debate concerning who her father (and mother) were.

The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 16 May 1997, by Jim Stevens, referring to an earlier post by Mat on 29 Apr 1997:

Matman posted to
soc.genealogy.medieval on 29 Apr 1997:
Subject: Re: Untangling the Burgundy web

"For English readers, the Bouchard article (p261ff) is essential to understanding this confusion in ES. French historians etc have peddled various theories: the ES has noted all of them, hence the internal disagreement.

Some have favoured Leotald of Macon as the father of Gerberga, but Bouchard follows the more reliable ones (F.Lot, R.Poupardin etc) in seeing her as the daughter of Lambert. She lists 3 children of Lambert: Gerberga (m. 1) Adalbert (2) Henry; Matilda (m. Geoffrey), Hugo of Chalon. The sources clearly state that Matilda and Hugo were children of Lambert, but they don't mention the father of Gerberga.

The main argument for Gerberga being the daughter of Leotald is, I think, the fact that her great grandson Otto of Macon (not Otto-William) calls Leotald his _atavus_. The strict classical meaning of this is great-great-great-grandad, which would imply, that Gerberga was Leotald's grandaughter. However most who favour Leotald's parentage, have overlooked this inconvenient detail, and suggested that the term here just means distant ancestor.

The other evidence is the Life of Hugo of Chalon (d.1039) who says that his sister married the duke of Burgundy. This has been seen as Gerberga wife of Henry (d.1002). Those who favour Leotald as her father, say this sister was Matilda, who they say married Henry before she married Geoffrey of Semur. Thus if one rejects Lambert as the father of Gerberga, you have to invent a new wife for Duke Henry. I think ES III, 433-34 has these two marriages. Somewhere else in ES, it even gives this supposed marriage of Matilda and Henry a daughter, Aremburga, the wife of Dalmas I of Semur.

I havn't gone into all the various arguments, or evidence: its best to read Bouchard yourself, and decide whether you agree with her. Personally I prefer her no-nonsense approach, and the works of other notable historians (eg W.Kienast Die Herzogtitel in Frankreich & Deutschland, 1968) agree with her on the father of Gerberga being Lambert."
2.
woman Elizabeth de Chalon‏‎
Born ‎± 970 at Chalon-sur-Saone, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France‎