Herve of Gatinais, Count of Maine Born ± ABT. 890 at of Maine, France Name: Herve de GATINAIS Count of Maine Surname: Gatinais Given Name: Herve de NSFX: Count of Maine Sex: M Birth: ABT 0890 in of Maine Reference Number: 75794 _UID: E1510C72B2806C499E2D66B62AB74942EAA0 Note: Count of Maine; father of Gerberge who m. Fulk II, Count of Anjou. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD1, CD00 Author: Automated Archives, Inc. Publication: Genealogical Research System, 1994 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com Married/ Related to: N.N. Child: 1. Gerberga of "Gerberga of the Gatinais" GatinaisBorn 915 at Gatinais, Maine, France, died 952, 36 or 37 years Name: Gerberga de Gatinais 1 1 Sex: F Name: Gerverga of Gatinais 2 Birth: 915 in Gatinais, Orleanais, France 3 Death: 952 3 Event: Gen Source 30 MAR 1994 ARP 1450:1; ARP 1157:31 4 Event: Fact 2nd wife 5 4 Note: Her ancestry follows the ancestry for Gerberga, presented on soc.genealogy.medieval by Alan B. Wilson, based on work by Settipani, which is still speculative.[Ancestry.com Tree 0472 says Gerberga of Gatinais Directory of Royal Genealogy says Gervenga of GaitnaisTurton has Gerberge as "d' Arles", daughter (with a ?) of Rotbold II Comte d'Arles, while AR has Gerberga (de Gatinais?). Neither source seems sure. Others say Gerberga du Maine, de Vienne, or de Tours. @@check ancestry ------------------------ The following post to soc.genealogy.medieval on 1 Jun 1998 by Ken Finton indicates that the only agreement seems to be to her first name (Professor Bachrach, a historian, proposed the existence of Gerberga, daughter of Ratburnus of Vienne, who married Fulk II, on purely political/historical grounds, even though there was no other indication that Ratburnus had a daughter named Gerberga.): This is directed at Professor Bachrach: There seems to be a lot of disagreement as to the father of Gerberga, wife of Fulk II. It has been called to my attention that you favor her identification as: Gerberga of Vienne, d/o Ratburnus. ["Prosopographical Method", _Medieval Prosopography 7_ , no. 2 (1986), 1-23. In his "Fulk Nerra" Bachrach says firmly that she is Gerberga of Vienne, da. of the "mere" (as he puts it, as part of his argument on the political import of the marriage) viscount of Vienne, Viscount Ratburnus I (p. 7 - and see his geneal of this house, chart 14)."] ES III:116 says this Fulk m. (1) Gerberga, dau. of Herve, Ct of Maine and (2) the widow of Alain, Duke of Brittany. Turton (chart 6) has her as Gerberga d'Arles, da. of Rotbold II, comte d'Arles. Also, Her father may have been Theobald de Tours.), source Royalty for Commoners, by Roderick W. Stuart, p. 125. If she is of Vienne, how can this be backed up? To complicate matters, I see that Christian Thevenot, "Foulque III Nerra, Comte d'Anjou" (1987) endorses Gerberga as Gerberge du Maine, da. of HervĂ©, Sgr du Maine, as the ES Chart shows. Kenneth Harper Finton Editor/ Publisher THE PLANTAGENET CONNECTION ----------------------------- I have adopted the ancestry for Gerberga, presented on soc.genealogy.medieval by Alan B. Wilson, based on work by Settipani, which is still speculative. Father: Geoffrey Count of Gatinais b: 890 in Orleans, France Mother: Ava of Arverne b: ABT 893 in Auvergne, France Marriage 1 Foulques II "Le Bon" Comte d' Anjou b: ABT 909 in Anjou, France Married: 2 MAR 936/37 in 1st wife 6 Children Geoffroy I 'Grisegonnelle' Comte d' Anjou b: 11 NOV 938 in Anjou, France Bouchard I de Vendome b: ABT 939 in Anjou, France Agnes d' Anjou b: ABT 940 in Anjou, France Adelaide (Blanche\Adele) d' Anjou b: ABT 942 in Anjou/Pays-de-la-Loire, France Sources: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Ed. Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr. Publication: 1999 Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: 118-20 Text: Gerberga (of the Gatinais?) Title: Directory of Royal Genealogical Data Author: Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science Publication: Department of Computer Science, Hull University Note: usually reliable but sometimes includes hypothetical lines, mythological figures, etc Repository: Note: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/catalog.html Call Number: Media: Electronic Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Page: Alan B Wilson, 12 Jun 1998 Title: World Family Tree Vol. 29, Ed. 1 Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc. Publication: Release date: August 23, 1996 Note: Customer pedigree. Repository: Call Number: Media: Other Page: Tree 100] !Charta from Charlemagne Society of Utah Dau of Theobald/Thibault of Arles and Bertha of Rome; m. Foulques/Fulk II of Anjou; mother of Guy, Drogon, Aelips, Adelaide, Geoffroy, Bouchard and Arsinde. [Sally Six 1 2 3 Change Date: 27 Jul 2003 at 22:49:51 Father: Herve de GATINAIS Count of Maine b: ABT 0890 in of Maine Father: Thibault I, Count of ARLES b: ABT 0855 in of Arles, France Mother: Bertha, Princess of LORRAINE b: ABT 0863 in of Lorraine Marriage 1 Fulk II the Good, Count de ANJOU b: ABT 0909/0920 in Anjou,France Children Aelips de ANJOU b: ABT 0936 in of Anjou, France Geoffrey I "Grisegonnelle", Count de ANJOU b: 11 Nov 0938 in Anjou,France Guy de ANJOU Abbot of Cormery b: ABT 0939 in Anjou, France Agnes d' ANJOU b: ABT 0940 in Anjou, France Adelaide, Countess D'ANJOU b: ABT 0942 in Anjou, France Drogo de ANJOU Bishop of Le Puy b: ABT 0943 in Anjou, France Sources: Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. III Author: Buck, J. Orton; Beard, Timothy Field Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1988 Repository: Name: Denver Public Library Title: Charlemagne, Alfred the Great and Other Ancestors Author: Mitchell, James T. Publication: 1991 Page: Chart 3301, 3318, 3340, 3375 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Automated Archives, Automated Family Pedigrees 100 Author: Automated Archives, Inc. Publication: Genealogical Research System, 1994 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com |