man Herve of Gatinais, Count of Maine‏‎
Born ‎± ABT. 890 at of Maine, France‎
Name: Herve de GATINAIS Count of Maine
Surname: Gatinais
Given Name: Herve de
NSFX: Count of Maine
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 0890 in of Maine
Reference Number: 75794
_UID: E1510C72B2806C499E2D66B62AB74942EAA0
Note:
Count of Maine; father of Gerberge who m. Fulk II, Count of Anjou. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD1, CD00
Author: Automated Archives, Inc.
Publication: Genealogical Research System, 1994
From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com

Married/ Related to:

N.N.‎

Child:

1.
woman Gerberga of "Gerberga of the Gatinais" Gatinais‏
Born ‎ 915 at Gatinais, Maine, France, died ‎ 952‎, 36 or 37 years
Name: Gerberga de Gatinais 1 1
Sex: F
Name: Gerverga of Gatinais 2
Birth: 915 in Gatinais, Orleanais, France 3
Death: 952 3
Event: Gen Source 30 MAR 1994 ARP 1450:1; ARP 1157:31 4
Event: Fact 2nd wife 5 4
Note:
Her ancestry follows the ancestry for Gerberga, presented on soc.genealogy.medieval by Alan B. Wilson, based on work by Settipani, which is still speculative.[Ancestry.com Tree 0472 says Gerberga of Gatinais

Directory of Royal Genealogy says Gervenga of GaitnaisTurton has Gerberge as "d' Arles", daughter (with a ?) of Rotbold II Comte d'Arles, while AR has Gerberga (de Gatinais?). Neither source seems sure. Others say Gerberga du Maine, de Vienne, or de Tours. @@check ancestry

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The following post to soc.genealogy.medieval on 1 Jun 1998 by Ken Finton indicates that the only agreement seems to be to her first name (Professor Bachrach, a historian, proposed the existence of Gerberga, daughter of Ratburnus of Vienne, who married Fulk II, on purely political/historical grounds, even though there was no other indication that Ratburnus had a daughter named Gerberga.):

This is directed at Professor Bachrach:

There seems to be a lot of disagreement as to the father of Gerberga, wife of Fulk II. It has been called to my attention that you favor her identification as:

Gerberga of Vienne, d/o Ratburnus. ["Prosopographical Method", _Medieval Prosopography 7_ , no. 2 (1986), 1-23. In his "Fulk Nerra" Bachrach says firmly that she is Gerberga of Vienne, da. of the "mere" (as he puts it, as part of his argument on the political import of the marriage) viscount of Vienne, Viscount Ratburnus I (p. 7 - and see his geneal of this house, chart 14)."]

ES III:116 says this Fulk m. (1) Gerberga, dau. of Herve, Ct of Maine and (2) the widow of Alain, Duke of Brittany. Turton (chart 6) has her as Gerberga d'Arles, da. of Rotbold II, comte d'Arles. Also, Her father may have been Theobald de Tours.), source Royalty for Commoners, by Roderick W. Stuart, p. 125.

If she is of Vienne, how can this be backed up? To complicate matters, I see that Christian Thevenot, "Foulque III Nerra, Comte d'Anjou" (1987) endorses Gerberga as Gerberge du Maine, da. of Hervé, Sgr du Maine, as the ES Chart shows.

Kenneth Harper Finton
Editor/ Publisher
THE PLANTAGENET CONNECTION

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I have adopted the ancestry for Gerberga, presented on soc.genealogy.medieval by Alan B. Wilson, based on work by Settipani, which is still speculative.


Father: Geoffrey Count of Gatinais b: 890 in Orleans, France
Mother: Ava of Arverne b: ABT 893 in Auvergne, France

Marriage 1 Foulques II "Le Bon" Comte d' Anjou b: ABT 909 in Anjou, France
Married: 2 MAR 936/37 in 1st wife 6
Children
Geoffroy I 'Grisegonnelle' Comte d' Anjou b: 11 NOV 938 in Anjou, France
Bouchard I de Vendome b: ABT 939 in Anjou, France
Agnes d' Anjou b: ABT 940 in Anjou, France
Adelaide (Blanche\Adele) d' Anjou b: ABT 942 in Anjou/Pays-de-la-Loire, France

Sources:
Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Ed.
Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr.
Publication: 1999
Repository:
Call Number:
Media: Book
Page: 118-20
Text: Gerberga (of the Gatinais?)
Title: Directory of Royal Genealogical Data
Author: Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science
Publication: Department of Computer Science, Hull University
Note: usually reliable but sometimes includes hypothetical lines, mythological figures, etc
Repository:
Note: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/catalog.html
Call Number:
Media: Electronic
Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
Repository:
Call Number:
Media: Electronic
Page: Alan B Wilson, 12 Jun 1998
Title: World Family Tree Vol. 29, Ed. 1
Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc.
Publication: Release date: August 23, 1996
Note: Customer pedigree.
Repository:
Call Number:
Media: Other
Page: Tree 100]

!Charta from Charlemagne Society of Utah

Dau of Theobald/Thibault of Arles and Bertha of Rome; m. Foulques/Fulk II of Anjou; mother of Guy, Drogon, Aelips, Adelaide, Geoffroy, Bouchard and Arsinde. [Sally Six 1 2 3
Change Date: 27 Jul 2003 at 22:49:51

Father: Herve de GATINAIS Count of Maine b: ABT 0890 in of Maine

Father: Thibault I, Count of ARLES b: ABT 0855 in of Arles, France
Mother: Bertha, Princess of LORRAINE b: ABT 0863 in of Lorraine

Marriage 1 Fulk II the Good, Count de ANJOU b: ABT 0909/0920 in Anjou,France
Children
Aelips de ANJOU b: ABT 0936 in of Anjou, France
Geoffrey I "Grisegonnelle", Count de ANJOU b: 11 Nov 0938 in Anjou,France
Guy de ANJOU Abbot of Cormery b: ABT 0939 in Anjou, France
Agnes d' ANJOU b: ABT 0940 in Anjou, France
Adelaide, Countess D'ANJOU b: ABT 0942 in Anjou, France
Drogo de ANJOU Bishop of Le Puy b: ABT 0943 in Anjou, France

Sources:
Repository:
Name: Cheryl Varner Library

Title: Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. III
Author: Buck, J. Orton; Beard, Timothy Field
Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1988
Repository:
Name: Denver Public Library

Title: Charlemagne, Alfred the Great and Other Ancestors
Author: Mitchell, James T.
Publication: 1991
Page: Chart 3301, 3318, 3340, 3375
Repository:
Name: Cheryl Varner Library

Title: Automated Archives, Automated Family Pedigrees 100
Author: Automated Archives, Inc.
Publication: Genealogical Research System, 1994
From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com