 Guelph of " Guelph I, Duke of Bavaria" Altdorf, Duke of Bavaria, son of Welf of Argengau and Hermenlindis of Bavaria.Born 778 at Altdorf, Bavaria, died 818 at Bavaria, 39 or 40 years Name: Welf (Guelph) III Duke of Bavaria 1 2 3 Sex: M Name: Welf of Alemannia 4 Birth: 787 in Altdorf, Bavaria 5 Death: 818 5 Death: ABT 825 6 Note: Note: Referring to Wurts, William Marshall gives Isenbart as an alternative parent to Welf (Guelph), but also indicates as possible father: Ruthardus, Duke of Bavaria, living 768, son of Guelph (Welf) Duke of Fruili & Bavaria. This data follows Turton, bit it also contains information on Isenbart & Immentrude von Schwaben from other ancestry.com/WFT going back at least 18 generations. WHICH IS CORRECT? Father: Welf (Guelph) I of Argengaid b: 745 in Germany Mother: Hermenlindis of Bavaria b: ABT 750 in Bavaria, Germany Marriage 1 Edith (Eigilwich\Heilwig\Hedwig) of Saxony b: ABT 780 in Saxony, Germany Married: BEF 800 Married: WFT Est 741-799 7 Married: WFT Est 759-810 8 Married: WFT Est 775-818 9 Married: WFT Est 795-825 10 Children Rudolph Comte de Ponthieu b: ABT 805 in Ponthieu, Rhone-Alpes, France Conrad I Count of Aargau & Auxerre b: ABT 800 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France Judith of Bavaria b: 800 in Bavaria, Germany Emma of Bavaria b: ABT 810 in Bavaria, Germany Sources: Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Page: William Marshall, 3 Dec 988 Text: father of Rudolph Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Page: Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998 Text: Welf I of Bavaria, father of Judith Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Ed. Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr. Publication: 1999 Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: 140-14 Title: Directory of Royal Genealogical Data Author: Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science Publication: Department of Computer Science, Hull University Note: usually reliable but sometimes includes hypothetical lines, mythological figures, etc Repository: Note: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/catalog.html Call Number: Media: Electronic Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, 1993 edition Author: Turton, William H. Publication: Genalogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1928 (1993 edition) Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: 181 Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Page: Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998 Title: World Family Tree Vol. 10, Ed. 1 Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc. Publication: Release date: May 6, 1997 Note: Customer pedigree. Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: Tree 0008 Text: Date of Import: Jun 26, 1998 Title: World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1 Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc. Publication: Release date: July 1, 1997 Note: Customer pedigree. Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: Tree 1246 Text: Date of Import: Jun 20, 1999 Married 797 at Burgundy, France (20 or 21 years married) to:  Engilwich Hedwig of "Duchess of Bavaria Hedwig" Saxony, Abbess of Chelles, daughter of Witikind of "Duke of Saxony, Duke of Westphalia" Saxony and Svatana of Saxe.Born ± ABT. 780 at Saxony, Germany, died after AFT. 833 at Abbey of Chelles, near Paris, France Name: Edith (Eigilwich\Heilwig\Hedwig) of Saxony 1 2 Sex: F Birth: ABT 780 in Saxony, Germany Death: AFT 833 3 Death: AFT 833 in an Abbis of Chelles by Paris 4 Marriage 1 Welf (Guelph) III Duke of Bavaria b: 787 in Altdorf, Bavaria Married: BEF 800 Married: WFT Est 741-799 5 Married: WFT Est 759-810 4 Married: WFT Est 775-818 6 Married: WFT Est 795-825 7 Children Rudolph Comte de Ponthieu b: ABT 805 in Ponthieu, Rhone-Alpes, France Conrad I Count of Aargau & Auxerre b: ABT 800 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France Judith of Bavaria b: 800 in Bavaria, Germany Emma of Bavaria b: ABT 810 in Bavaria, Germany Sources: Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, 1993 edition Author: Turton, William H. Publication: Genalogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1928 (1993 edition) Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: 181 Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Page: Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998 Text: Eigilwich/Heilwig (no last name) Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Page: Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998 Title: World Family Tree Vol. 29, Ed. 1 Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc. Publication: Release date: August 23, 1996 Note: Customer pedigree. Repository: Call Number: Media: Other Page: Tree 1160 Text: Date of Import: Aug 8, 1998 Title: World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1 Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc. Publication: Release date: July 1, 1997 Note: Customer pedigree. Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: Tree 1246 Text: Date of Import: Jun 20, 1999 Children: 1. Konrad Welf of "Count of Aargau & Auxerre, Konrad of Aargau & Aux" AuxerreBorn ± ABT. 800 at Name: Konrad I WELF Count of Auxerre Surname: Welf Given Name: Konrad I NSFX: Count of Auxerre Sex: M Birth: 0800 in of Eritgau,of Aargau, Bavaria Death: 21 Sep 0862 in of Auxerre, Bavaria Reference Number: Foster,Bur _UID: E166FDF0D7632A4E88DBECD074AFBE8A707F Note: Son of Guelph I of Altdorf and Hedwig Eigilwich von Saxony; m. Adela de Tours; father of: 1. Adalgunde who m. Erenfried I of Bliesgau 2. Conrad II of Auxerre who m. Ermentrude de Eticonides 3. Welf of Altdorf [Michael Thissen FOSTER, WAITE, NEWLIN, BURR LINES Mayflower PAF Count of Auxerre; son of Welf, Count in the Eritgau, and Eigilwich; m. Adelaide of Tours; father of Konrad II, Count of Auxerre. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD1, CD00 Author: Automated Archives, Inc. Publication: Genealogical Research Glick/Foster Ancestry at Rootsweb.com 2. Judith Andeck of Altdorf, Princess of BavariaBorn ± ABT. 802 at Altdorf, Bavaria, died Apr 19, 843 at Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France, approximately 41 years Name: Judith of Bavaria 1 Sex: F ALIA: Judith of /Andech/ Title: Princess of Bavaria Name: Judith of Andech , Von Altdorf 2 Birth: 800 in Bavaria, Germany 3 Birth: 800 in Altdorf, Bavaria 2 Death: 19 APR 843 in Tours, France 4 Event: Gen Source 29 MAR 1994 ARP 1618:3; ARP 1612:1; ARP 1458:27 5 Event: Fact d Apr 19, 843, Tours 5 Note: Her parents are shown to be either 1) Geulph III of Andech or 2) Welf I, Count of Bavaria. WFT 4, Tree 0092 and 1106, and WFT 10, Tree 3809 show Geulph III. WFT 22, Tree 28319 Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Text: Date of Import: Jan 15, 2000 Title: The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest Author: Jim Weber Publication: ancestry.com Note: downloaded periodically 2001-2004. Updated frequently, with many sources. Repository: Note: jim.weber@nwintl.com Call Number: Media: Electronic Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Ed. Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr. Publication: 1999 Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: 140-14 Title: World Family Tree Vol. 29, Ed. 1 Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc. Publication: Release date: August 23, 1996 Note: Customer pedigree. Repository: Call Number: Media: Other Page: Tree 008 Text: Date of Import: Jun 26, 1998 Title: Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: Louis I Text: year only 3. Emma of Bavaria, Queen of GermanyBorn ± ABT. 804 at Bavaria, died Jan 31, 875/76, approximately 71 years Name: Emma of Bavaria 1 Sex: F Birth: ABT 810 in Bavaria, Germany 2 Death: 876 Father: Welf (Guelph) III Duke of Bavaria b: 787 in Altdorf, Bavaria Mother: Edith (Eigilwich\Heilwig\Hedwig) of Saxony b: ABT 780 in Saxony, Germany Marriage 1 Louis II "The German" King of East Franks b: ABT 806 in Germany Children Hildegarde of Bavaria Carloman King of Bavaria b: ABT 828 in Bavaria, Germany Louis the Younger b: 835 Charles III the Fat b: 839 Sources: Title: Directory of Royal Genealogical Data Author: Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science Publication: Department of Computer Science, Hull University Note: usually reliable but sometimes includes hypothetical lines, mythological figures, etc Repository: Note: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/catalog.html Call Number: Media: Electronic Title: The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest Author: Jim Weber Publication: ancestry.com Note: downloaded periodically 2001-2004. Updated frequently, with many sources. Repository: Note: jim.weber@nwintl.com Call Number: Media: Electronic 4. Rudolph of EritgauBorn ± ABT. 810 at Eritgau, Germany, died Jan 6, 865/66, approximately 55 years Name: Rudolph WELF Surname: Welf Given Name: Rudolph Sex: M Birth: ABT 0810 in of Eritgau,,,Germany Death: 6 Jan 0866 _UID: F0FA9CBD18103C4BBDAD3A9C5EF159B69050 Note: Mayflower PAF Change Date: 19 Mar 2003 at 17:13:05 Father: Guelph I WELF Count of Altdorf b: 0778 in Altdorf, Mittelfranken, Bavaria Mother: Edith Eigilwich Chellesof SAXONY Duchess of Bavaria b: ABT 0780 in Bavaria. From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com | |||