 Ela Adelia Talvase of Alencon, daughter of William Talvas Montgomery "Count of Alencon & Ponthieu, William Talvas Montgo" Despencer and Alice Helene of Burgundy.Born ± ABT. 1110 at Sussex, England, died ± ABT. 1174, approximately 64 years Married 1130 at France (approximately 44 years married) to:  William of "3rd Earl of Warren and Surrey" Warenne, son of William of Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey and Isabel of "Elizabeth of Vermandois, Isabel Crepi Vermandois" Valois & Vermandois.Born 1118 at Vermandois, Normandy, France, died Jan 19, 1147/48 at Laodecia, approximately 29 years. Occupation: at Earl of Surrey; , 1st marriage to: Alice Adela of Talvase, 2nd marriage to: Ela Adelia Talvase of Alencon Name: William de Warenne 3rd Earl of Warenne 1 Sex: M Name: William de Warenne 3rd Earl of Warren & Surrey 2 Birth: 1110 in Vermandois, France Birth: 1109 2 Birth: 1119 1 Death: 19 JAN 1147/48 in Laodicea, Holy Lands 2 Event: Acceded 1138 1 Note: Earl of Warren & Surrey [RGDB] A crusader who died in the Holy Land. The Complete Peerage vol.XIIpI,p.496-7. Father: William 2nd Earl of Warren b: 1081 in Sussex, England Mother: Elizabeth Isabel de Crépi de Vermandois b: 1081 in Vermandois, Normandy, France Marriage 1 Ela Talvas d'Alencon b: 1120 Children Isabelle 4th Countess de Warenne b: 1136 in Surrey, England Maud de Warenne b: 1138 Gundred de Warenne b: 1148 Sources: Title: Royal Genealogical Data Base Author: Brian C Tompsett Publication: Copyright 1994 - 2002 Note: Department of Computer Science University of Hull Hull, UK, HU6 7RX B.C.Tompsett @ dcs.hull.ac.uk Repository: Note: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/ Call Number: Media: Electronic Title: scary.ged Author: Susan (Poliksa) Cary scary @ infowest.com Publication: RootsWeb World Connect, db=poliksa Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Text: Date of Import: Oct 3, 2001 Name: William de WARENNE 3rd Earl of Warren & Surrey Surname: Warenne Given Name: William de NSFX: 3rd Earl of Warren & Surrey Sex: M Birth: 1118 in of Vermandois,Normandy,France Death: 19 Jan 1147/1148 in Laodicia,Holy Land Reference Number: Newlin _UID: 70B96CB7916E484CB3EC471AAF1E472F2217 Note: !Earl of Warren and Surrey; a crusader. [The Roll of Battle Abbey] NEWLIN LINE !3rd Earl of Warren and Surrey. Zealously espoused the cause of King Stephen and had a chief command in his army. [Magna Charta Barons, p. 79, 281] The last earl of his line; died in the Holy Land, leaving an only child, Isabel, who inherited his vast domain and through whom the family descended. [Falaise Roll, p. 52] b. 1110 [Judy Martin] Thetford was in the hands of King Stephen in 1139. Soon after this date the king gave all the lands and advowsons on the Suffolk side of the river, both within and without the borough, to William de Warenne, the third earl of Warenne and Surrey. Immediately after he had received this grant, the earl founded a monastery on that side of Thetford for canons of the order of St. Sepulchre, of the Austin rule, which order had been introduced into England abt 1120. By the foundation charter the earl bestowed on the canons the church of St. Sepulchre, with a quadrigate of land in the adjoining fields, together with all the lands, churches, tithes, and manorial rights in Thetford that he had obtained from the king. He further granted them 2 yearly fiars, namely at the Invention (3 May) and the Exaltation of the Holy Cross (14 September). The earl was at this time abt to set forth on a crusade, and the concluding sentences of the charter solemnly commend the maintenance of his new foundation to his brother palmers, to the burgesses, and to all his faithful friends. It was witnessed by his bros., Ralph and Reginald. [Victoria History of Suffolk, p. 109] 3rd Earl of Warren who succeeded in 1138 and d. on crusade in 1147. These direct descendants from the first earl and his wife were close relations of the kings of England: the second earl was the grondson of William I and nephew of Henry I and William Rufus. He m. Isabel, dau. of Hugh, 3rd son of Henry I of France. The family was thus closely linked to the royal nobility of France and England. Left no male heir, having only one dau., Isabel. She m. the son of King Stephen, William de Blois, who became the 4th Earl Warren. [Conisbrough Castle, p. 20] m. Ela/Eva/Adela of Ponthieu; father of Isabel who m. Hameline Plantagenet. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD1, CD00 Author: Automated Archives, Inc. Publication: Genealogical Research System, 1994 Repository: Name: Denver Public Library Title: Charlemagne, Alfred the Great and Other Ancestors Author: Mitchell, James T. Publication: 1991 Page: Chart 2958 Title: Ridipath's History Title: Burke's Landed Gentry Publication: 1939 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: The Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States Author: Roberts, Gary Boyd Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1993 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Castle Acre Castle and Priory Author: Coad, Jonathan; Coppack, Glyn Publication: English Heritage, London, 1998 Page: p. 11 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com Child: 1. Isabella of "Countess of Surrey" Warenne, 4th Countess of WarenneBorn ± ABT. 1137 at Surrey, England; 3, died Jul 13, 1203 at Lewes, Sussex; 3, approximately 66 years, buried at Chapter House, Lewes, Sussex, England; Quality: 3 Name: Isabelle 4th Countess de Warenne 1 Sex: F Birth: 1136 in Surrey, England 2 1 Death: 13 JUL 1199 in Lewes, Sussex, England 2 Death: 12 JUL 1203 in Lewes, Sussex, England 3 Burial: Chapter House, Lewes Priory, Sussex, England 3 Note: Stammtafeln says died 13 Jul 1199 husband 2 = Hamelin Father: William de Warenne 3rd Earl of Warenne b: 1110 in Vermandois, France Mother: Ela Talvas d'Alencon b: 1120 Marriage 1 William de Blois 4th Earl of Surrey b: ABT 1134 Married: ABT 1149 3 Marriage 2 Hamelin of Anjou Platagenet 5th Earl of Warren b: 1129 in Normandy, France Married: APR 1164 4 Children Mary Plantagenet Maud De Warenne Plantagenet b: 1154 in Surrey, England William de Warenne 6th Earl of Warren b: 1156 in Warren, Sussex, England Geoffrey De Warenne b: 1159 Ida Isabel Plantagenet b: 1164 Suzanne de Warenne b: 1170 Adela Plantagenet b: 1176 Sources: Title: Ancestry of Richard Plantagenet & Cecily de Neville Author: Ernst-Friedrich Kraentzler Publication: Accelerated Indexing Systems, Inc., 1978 Repository: Call Number: 78-53749 Media: Book Page: 1333 Title: scary.ged Author: Susan (Poliksa) Cary scary @ infowest.com Publication: RootsWeb World Connect, db=poliksa Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Text: Date of Import: Oct 3, 2001 Title: Royal Genealogical Data Base Author: Brian C Tompsett Publication: Copyright 1994 - 2002 Note: Department of Computer Science University of Hull Hull, UK, HU6 7RX B.C.Tompsett @ dcs.hull.ac.uk Repository: Note: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/ Call Number: Media: Electronic Title: Ancestry of Richard Plantagenet & Cecily de Neville Author: Ernst-Friedrich Kraentzler Publication: Accelerated Indexing Systems, Inc., 1978 Repository: Call Number: 78-53749 Media: Book Page: 1146 Name: Isabella de WARENNE Countess of Surrey Surname: Warenne Given Name: Isabella de NSFX: Countess of Surrey Sex: F Birth: ABT 1137 in of Surrey,England Death: 13 Jul 1203 in Lewes,Sussex,England Burial: Chapter House,Lewes,Sussex,England Reference Number: Newlin _UID: 53BE980D93ED054285E5379C87BD5158A7F0 Note: !Countess of Surrey, widow of William de Blois, only daughter and heiress of William, third Earl of Warren and Surrey. [Magna Charta Barons, p. 79, 393] NEWLIN LINE b. 1137 [Judy Martin] d. 13 Jul 1203, Lewes, Eng; m. Hameline Plantagenet; mother of Ela/Adela de Warenne who m. William Fitz William. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD100] Isabel, heiress to considerable estates, was not left single for long, marrying William of Blois, a younger son of King Stephen. He died in 1159 and in 1163 she married the illegitimate half-brother of Henry II, Hamelin Plantagenet, who held the earldom of Surrey until his death in 1202, and whose most notable contribution to castle-building is the great keep at Conisbrough in Yorkshire. [Castle Rising Castle and Priory, p. 11] The widow of King Stephen's son William was the heiress of the de Warrenne earls of Surrey. Probably still quite young at William of Blois' death, she ultimately m. Hamelin, the OOW son of Count Geoffrey of Anjou and a half-bro of Henry II. Since Hamelin was not a son of the Empress Matilda, he was not so closely related to William of Blois as William Plantagenet had been, and was able to marry the countess without difficulty. The later de Warrennes were descended from Hamelin and the de Warrenne heiress. [John Carmi Parsons Isabella inherited the lordship of Lewes as well as earldom of Surrey. [Suzanne Doing d. 1199; dau of William III de Warenne and Adela de Montgomery; m. Hamelin Plantagenet; mother of Ida, William, Maud, Suzanne, Adela Ela, and Jeffrey. [Andrew 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Change Date: 16 Dec 2003 at 13:38:13 Father: William de WARENNE 3rd Earl of Warren & Surrey b: 1118 in of Vermandois,Normandy,France Mother: Alice Adela TALVAS b: ABT 1124 in of Alencon-Belleme and Ponthieu,France Marriage 1 William of Warren BLOIS Earl of Surrey, Count of Boulogne b: ABT 1135 in of Moreton,England Married: BEF 1159 Marriage 2 Hamelin Warren PLANTAGENET Earl of Surrey, Lord of Lewes b: 1129 in Anjou, France Married: Apr 1163/1164 in ,,,England Children Isabella or Ida WARENNE b: ABT 1154/1155 in of Surrey,England Ela Adela de WARENNE b: AFT 1164 in Surrey, England Maud de WARENNE b: 1163 in of Warren,Surrey,England William de WARENNE 5th Earl of Surrey, Magna Charta Surety b: ABT 1166 in Surrey,England Suzanne de WARENNE b: ABT 1167 in Surrey, England Jeanne de Valletort WARENNE b: ABT 1168 in of Lincolnshire,England Jeffrey WARREN b: ABT Jan 1165 in Surrey, England Sources: Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, Fourth Edition Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis, Th.D. Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1991 Title: The Roll of Battle Abbey Author: Burke, John Bernard, Esq. Publication: Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore, 1985 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Magna Charta Barons and Their American Descendants, 1898 Author: Browning, Charles D. Publication: Clearfield Company, Baltimore, 1969 Page: p. 79, 393 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Automated Archives, Automated Family Pedigrees 100 Author: Automated Archives, Inc. Publication: Genealogical Research System, 1994 Title: The Irish and Anglo-Irish Landed Gentry Page: p. 186 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Conisbrough Castle Author: Johnson, Stephen Publication: English Heritage, London, 1996 Page: p. 20 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Castle Acre Castle and Priory Author: Coad, Jonathan; Coppack, Glyn Publication: English Heritage, London, 1998 Page: p. 11 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com | |||