 Theobald of "Count d'Arles, Theobald of Maine" Arles, son of Herbert of "Lay Abbot of St. Maurice in Wallis" Arles, Marquis of Trans Burgundy and N.N..Born ± ABT. 855 at Name: Thibault I, Count of ARLES Surname: Arles Given Name: Thibault I, Count of Sex: M Birth: ABT 0855 in of Arles, France Death: BEF 0895 Reference Number: Burr,Newli _UID: 25C41858CAC3BB48B9E7FA7BF42A12548265 Note: !1st husband of Princess Bertha. [Peds. of Emp. Charlemagne's Desc., Vol. I, p. 183] WAITE, FOSTER, MINOR, BURR, NEWLIN LINES - 30th ggrandfather !Charta from Charlemagne Society of Utah Count of Arles; son of Hebert of Transjurane Burgundy; m. Bertha of Lorraine; father of Teutberga of Arles, Boso, Count of Arles, Hugh, King of Italy. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD1, CD00 Author: Automated Archives, Inc. Publication: Genealogical Research System, 1994 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com Married ± ABT. 879 at 1st husband to:  Bertha of Lorraine, Princess of Lorraine, daughter of Lothar II of Aquitaine, King of Lorraine and Waldrade of Burgundy, Queen of Lorraine.Born ± ABT. 863 at Lorraine, France; 3, died Mar 8, 924/25 at Lucca, Tuscany, Itlay; 3, approximately 61 years, 1st marriage to: Theobald of "Count d'Arles, Theobald of Maine" Arles, 2nd marriage to: Adalbert of "'the Rich'" Tuscany, Duke of Lucca & Tuscany Name: Bertha, Princess of LORRAINE Surname: Lorraine Given Name: Bertha, Princess of Sex: F Birth: ABT 0863 in of Lorraine Death: 8 Mar 0925 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy Reference Number: Burr,NEWLI _UID: E147E987392D7843B0B5A3FAC9FE436B30AE Note: WAITE, FOSTER, MINOR, BURR, NEWLIN LINES - 30th ggrandmother !M. 1. Theobald (Thibault), Count of Arles. [Peds. of Emp. Charlemagne's Desc., Vol. I, p. 183] Dau. of Lothaire II, King of Lorraine, and Waldrada, a concubine; m. Thibaud, Count of Arles. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD1, CD00 Author: Automated Archives, Inc. Publication: Genealogical Research System, 1994 Title: Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants Author: Buck, J. Orton; Langston Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1988 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com Children: 1. Hugh of "Hugh of Italy" Arles, King of ItalyBorn ± ABT. 880 at Italy, died Apr 10, 947 at Lucca, Tuscany, Italy, approximately 67 years Name: Hugues of ARLES King of Italy Surname: Arles Given Name: Hugues of NSFX: King of Italy Sex: M Birth: ABT 0880 in Arles, France Death: 10 Apr 0947 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy Reference Number: Burr,Newl _UID: 797E8CC565AA344886507AEC7C24AF1371DA Note: Son of Theobald I, Count of Arles, and Bertha, Princess of Lorraine; m. Vandelmodis; father of Umberto, Marquis of Tuscany. [Eileen McKinnon-Suggs FOSTER, NEWLIN LINES Change Date: 20 Mar 2003 at 12:06:03 Father: Thibault I, Count of ARLES b: ABT 0855 in of Arles, France Mother: Bertha, Princess of LORRAINE b: ABT 0863 in of Lorraine Marriage 1 Vandelmodis b: ABT 0885 in of Arles, France Children Umberto, Marquis of TUSCANY b: ABT 0905 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy Valdrada of TUSCANY b: ABT 0920 in Tuscany, Italy Glick/Foster Ancestry at Rootsweb.comName: Hugh of Italy King of Italy Given Name: Hugh of Italy NSFX: King of Italy Sex: M Birth: ABT 0880 in ,,,Italy Death: 0947 Reference Number: 1235202 _UID: 9C92C9D67689644A9EA1D9FDEF25E2961BFA Note: King of Italy; father of Wandelmoda of Provence who m. Guigues II, Sire de Vion. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD00] Change Date: 19 Mar 2003 at 17:13:07 Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown Children Wandelmoda of Provence b: ABT 0900 in of Provence,,,Italy Glick/Foster Ancestry at Rootsweb.com 2. Teutberga of ArlesBorn ± ABT. 882 at Arles, Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence, France, died before 30 BEF., Sep Name: Teutberga of ARLES Surname: Arles Given Name: Teutberga of Sex: F Birth: ABT 0882 in of Arles, France Death: BEF 30 Sep 0948 Reference Number: Minor,Newl _UID: CB8E80B7222A2D4D939E05E2668AC3C0E118 Note: Dau. of Thibaud, Count of Arles, and Bertha of Lorraine; m. Garnier, Vicomte of Troyes; mother of Hugh, Count of Vienne. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD1, CD00 Author: Automated Archives, Inc. Publication: Genealogical Research System, 1994 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Royalty for Commoners, Revised Second Edition Author: Stuart, Roderick W. Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1995 Page: Line 174 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com 3. Boso of "Count of Arles" Arles, Markgraf of TuscanyBorn ± ABT. 885 at of Arles, of Provence, of Avignon, France, died 938 at Of Tuscany, Italy, approximately 53 years Name: Boso de ARLES Markgraf of Tuscany, Count of Arles Surname: Arles Given Name: Boso de NSFX: Markgraf of Tuscany, Count of Arles Sex: M Birth: ABT 0885 in Arles,of Provence,of Avignon Death: 0938 in of Tuscany Reference Number: 75942 _UID: 7B9B631F3C67B3488E63F77039F270446D82 Note: !Count of Arles, 926-31, Markgraf of Tuscany, 931-36. [Ped. of Charlemagne, Vol. III] WAITE, FOSTER LINES - 29th ggrandfather !b. abt 885; d. c. 938; m. Willa. [Peds. of Charlemagne's Desc., Vol. I, p. 183] Count of Arles 926-31; Markgraf of Tuscany 931-36 !Markgraf of Tuscany !Charta from Charlemagne Society of Utah !Pedigrees of some Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants - Langston-Buck Count of Avignon & Arles, Marquis of Tuscany; m. Willa of Upper Burgundy; father of Willa of Arles-Tuscany. [Charlemagne & Others, Chart 3310] Count of Arles; m. Willa of Burgundy; father of Willa of Arles, Bertha of Arles, and another dau. who m. Rotbaud I of Agel. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD1, CD00 Author: Automated Archives, Inc. Publication: Genealogical Research System, 1994 Glick/Foster Ancestry at Rootsweb.com 4. Gerberga of "Gerberga of the Gatinais" GatinaisBorn 915 at Gatinais, Maine, France, died 952, 36 or 37 years Name: Gerberga de Gatinais 1 1 Sex: F Name: Gerverga of Gatinais 2 Birth: 915 in Gatinais, Orleanais, France 3 Death: 952 3 Event: Gen Source 30 MAR 1994 ARP 1450:1; ARP 1157:31 4 Event: Fact 2nd wife 5 4 Note: Her ancestry follows the ancestry for Gerberga, presented on soc.genealogy.medieval by Alan B. Wilson, based on work by Settipani, which is still speculative.[Ancestry.com Tree 0472 says Gerberga of Gatinais Directory of Royal Genealogy says Gervenga of GaitnaisTurton has Gerberge as "d' Arles", daughter (with a ?) of Rotbold II Comte d'Arles, while AR has Gerberga (de Gatinais?). Neither source seems sure. Others say Gerberga du Maine, de Vienne, or de Tours. @@check ancestry ------------------------ The following post to soc.genealogy.medieval on 1 Jun 1998 by Ken Finton indicates that the only agreement seems to be to her first name (Professor Bachrach, a historian, proposed the existence of Gerberga, daughter of Ratburnus of Vienne, who married Fulk II, on purely political/historical grounds, even though there was no other indication that Ratburnus had a daughter named Gerberga.): This is directed at Professor Bachrach: There seems to be a lot of disagreement as to the father of Gerberga, wife of Fulk II. It has been called to my attention that you favor her identification as: Gerberga of Vienne, d/o Ratburnus. ["Prosopographical Method", _Medieval Prosopography 7_ , no. 2 (1986), 1-23. In his "Fulk Nerra" Bachrach says firmly that she is Gerberga of Vienne, da. of the "mere" (as he puts it, as part of his argument on the political import of the marriage) viscount of Vienne, Viscount Ratburnus I (p. 7 - and see his geneal of this house, chart 14)."] ES III:116 says this Fulk m. (1) Gerberga, dau. of Herve, Ct of Maine and (2) the widow of Alain, Duke of Brittany. Turton (chart 6) has her as Gerberga d'Arles, da. of Rotbold II, comte d'Arles. Also, Her father may have been Theobald de Tours.), source Royalty for Commoners, by Roderick W. Stuart, p. 125. If she is of Vienne, how can this be backed up? To complicate matters, I see that Christian Thevenot, "Foulque III Nerra, Comte d'Anjou" (1987) endorses Gerberga as Gerberge du Maine, da. of HervĂ©, Sgr du Maine, as the ES Chart shows. Kenneth Harper Finton Editor/ Publisher THE PLANTAGENET CONNECTION ----------------------------- I have adopted the ancestry for Gerberga, presented on soc.genealogy.medieval by Alan B. Wilson, based on work by Settipani, which is still speculative. Father: Geoffrey Count of Gatinais b: 890 in Orleans, France Mother: Ava of Arverne b: ABT 893 in Auvergne, France Marriage 1 Foulques II "Le Bon" Comte d' Anjou b: ABT 909 in Anjou, France Married: 2 MAR 936/37 in 1st wife 6 Children Geoffroy I 'Grisegonnelle' Comte d' Anjou b: 11 NOV 938 in Anjou, France Bouchard I de Vendome b: ABT 939 in Anjou, France Agnes d' Anjou b: ABT 940 in Anjou, France Adelaide (Blanche\Adele) d' Anjou b: ABT 942 in Anjou/Pays-de-la-Loire, France Sources: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Ed. Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr. Publication: 1999 Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: 118-20 Text: Gerberga (of the Gatinais?) Title: Directory of Royal Genealogical Data Author: Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science Publication: Department of Computer Science, Hull University Note: usually reliable but sometimes includes hypothetical lines, mythological figures, etc Repository: Note: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/catalog.html Call Number: Media: Electronic Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Page: Alan B Wilson, 12 Jun 1998 Title: World Family Tree Vol. 29, Ed. 1 Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc. Publication: Release date: August 23, 1996 Note: Customer pedigree. Repository: Call Number: Media: Other Page: Tree 100] !Charta from Charlemagne Society of Utah Dau of Theobald/Thibault of Arles and Bertha of Rome; m. Foulques/Fulk II of Anjou; mother of Guy, Drogon, Aelips, Adelaide, Geoffroy, Bouchard and Arsinde. [Sally Six 1 2 3 Change Date: 27 Jul 2003 at 22:49:51 Father: Herve de GATINAIS Count of Maine b: ABT 0890 in of Maine Father: Thibault I, Count of ARLES b: ABT 0855 in of Arles, France Mother: Bertha, Princess of LORRAINE b: ABT 0863 in of Lorraine Marriage 1 Fulk II the Good, Count de ANJOU b: ABT 0909/0920 in Anjou,France Children Aelips de ANJOU b: ABT 0936 in of Anjou, France Geoffrey I "Grisegonnelle", Count de ANJOU b: 11 Nov 0938 in Anjou,France Guy de ANJOU Abbot of Cormery b: ABT 0939 in Anjou, France Agnes d' ANJOU b: ABT 0940 in Anjou, France Adelaide, Countess D'ANJOU b: ABT 0942 in Anjou, France Drogo de ANJOU Bishop of Le Puy b: ABT 0943 in Anjou, France Sources: Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. III Author: Buck, J. Orton; Beard, Timothy Field Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1988 Repository: Name: Denver Public Library Title: Charlemagne, Alfred the Great and Other Ancestors Author: Mitchell, James T. Publication: 1991 Page: Chart 3301, 3318, 3340, 3375 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Automated Archives, Automated Family Pedigrees 100 Author: Automated Archives, Inc. Publication: Genealogical Research System, 1994 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com | |||
Adopted child: Gerberga of "Gerberga of the Gatinais" Gatinais | |||