 Charles ""The Bald"" Carolingians, Holy Roman Emperor, son of Louis "'the Pious'" Carolingians, Holy Roman Emperor and Judith Andeck of Altdorf, Princess of Bavaria. Adoption parents: Louis of East "Louis the German" Franks, King of Bavaria and Emma of Bavaria, Queen of Germany Born Jun 13, 823 at Frankfurt Am Main, Hessen-Nassau, Preussen, died Oct 6, 877 at Brioude, Haute-Loire, France, 54 years, buried at Saint Denis, France ID: I11017 Name: Charles II "the Bald" , Holy Roman Emperor 1 Sex: M Birth: 13 JUN 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia 2 Death: 6 OCT 877 in Brides-les-Bains, Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France 3 Burial: St Denis, Paris, Ile-de-France, France 4 Event: Gen Source 29 MAR 1994 ARP 1460:28; ARP 1618:1; ARP 1456:18 5 Event: Acceded 843 King of West Franks 1 Event: Acceded 875 Holy Roman Emperor Note: [Ancestry.com Tree 28319 Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Text: Date of Import: Jan 15, 2000 Title: World Family Tree Vol. 29, Ed. 1 Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc. Publication: Release date: August 23, 1996 Note: Customer pedigree. Repository: Call Number: Media: Other Page: Tree 0902 Text: Date of Import: Aug 1, 1998 Title: World Family Tree Vol. 12, Ed. 1 Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc. Publication: Release date: July 28, 1997 Note: Customer pedigree. Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: Tree 472 Text: Date of Import: Jun 19, 1999 From 'Maloney, Hendrick & Many Others' at Rootsweb.com Contact James H. Maloney; ancestors@maloneylaw.com Married/ Related to: N.N. Child: | |||
| 2nd marriage Charles ""The Bald"" Carolingians, Holy Roman Emperor, son of Louis "'the Pious'" Carolingians, Holy Roman Emperor and Judith Andeck of Altdorf, Princess of Bavaria. Adoption parents: Louis of East "Louis the German" Franks, King of Bavaria and Emma of Bavaria, Queen of Germany Married Dec 14, 842 at 3 (34 years married) to: N.N. Children: 1.  Judith of the West "Princess of the West Franks" FranksBorn 844 at France, died Apr 870, 25 or 26 years Name: Judith CAROLINGIAN DYNASTY Princess of the West Franks Surname: Carolingian Dynasty Given Name: Judith NSFX: Princess of the West Franks Sex: F Birth: 0844 in France Death: Apr 0870 1 Reference Number: Foster _UID: C882E475E6E9F9409D7F4E773BBCE538A0F6 Note: !Hist. of Buckfield FOSTER LINE - 28th ggrandmother !Baldwin I is her 3rd husband. [Desc. of Charlemagne] !First husband was Ethelwulf, a marriage which did not please his people nor his grown-up sons, for the old king was forced into retirement. Upon Ethelwulf's death, she married her oldest stepson, Athelstan, and on his death she married Baldwin, Count of Flanders. [Leaders & Landmarks, Vol. II, p. 16] !Judith was only 13 when she was wed to Ethelwulf. This source says she married Ethelbald instead of Athelstan. Whoever it was, it upset the canons of the Church and she was sent back to her father. [Knight's Popular History of England, Vol. 1, p. 99] !Widow of Ethelwulf, King of England,father of Alfred the Great. [Our Noble & Gentle Families of Royal Descent Together with Their Paternal Ancestry by Joseph Foster p 178 1884 Edition] Princess of France, dau. of Charles II the Bald. [Royalty for Commoners, p. 119] 2 3 4 5 6 Change Date: 3 Apr 2003 at 21:00:02 Father: Charles II the Bald CAROLINGIAN King of France b: 13 Jun 0823 in Frankfurt-am-Main,Hessen-Nassau,Germany Mother: Ermentrude de ORLEANS Queen of France b: 27 Sep 0830 in of Orleans, Loiret, France Marriage 1 Ethelwulf Nobel Wolf ANGLO-SAXONS King of England b: 0806 in Wessex,England Married: ABT 1 Oct 0856/0857 in Verberie sur Oise, France Marriage 2 Athelstan ANGLO-SAXONS King of England b: ABT 0834 in of Wantage,Berkshire,England Married: 0858/0859 in ,,,England Marriage 3 Ethelbald of West Saxons ANGLO-SAXONS King of Wessex b: ABT 0830 in of Wantage,Berkshire,England Married: 0860 Marriage 4 Baldwin I 'Iron Arm', Count of FLANDERS b: ABT 0815 in Flanders, Nord, France Married: 0862 in Flandre, Austrasia Children Charles of FLANDERS b: ABT 0863 in Flanders, Nord, France Guinidilda de FLANDERS b: ABT 0864 in of Flanders Baldwin II 'the Bald, Count of FLANDERS b: 0865 in Flanders, Nord, France Rodolphe de FLANDRES b: ABT 0867 in Flanders, France Sources: Title: Anglo-Saxon Bishops, Kings and Nobles Author: Searle, William George Publication: Cambridge, 1899 Call Number: Eng 104 Page: p. 343 Repository: Name: Greenville County Public Library Title: History of Buckfield Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. III Author: Buck, J. Orton; Beard, Timothy Field Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1988 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: The Popular History of England Author: Knight, Charles Publication: T.Y. Crowell, New York, c. 1854 Page: Vol. I, p. 99 Title: Our Noble and Gentle Families of Royal Descent Together With Their Paternal Ancestry Author: Foster, Joseph Publication: Joseph Foster, 1884 Page: p. 178 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Royalty for Commoners, Revised Second Edition Author: Stuart, Roderick W. Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1995 Page: p. 119 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com 2. Charles of AquitaineBorn ± ABT. 845 3. Louis of the ""the Stammerer"" Franks, King of FranceBorn Nov 1, 846 at France, died Apr 10, 879 at Compiegne, France; 3, 32 years Name: Louis II 'The Stammerer' of France 1 Sex: M ALIA: "The /Stammerer"/ Title: King of France Name: Louis II of France 2 3 4 Birth: 1 NOV 846 in France 5 Birth: 1 SEP 846 in St. Martins or Tours 3 Death: 10 APR 879 in Compeigne, Oise, France 6 Event: Acceded 877 King of France 7 Event: Gen Source 29 MAR 1994 ARP 1460:14 3 Note: Different sources attribute children to different mothers. The Directory of Royal Genealogical Data and The Encyclopedia Britannica has Adelaide as mother of Charles III, but the Phillips family shows Ansgarde. The Directory shows neither Ermentrude or Ermengard. The Directory of Royal Genealogy: 856 King of Neustria, 867 King of Acuitaine, 877 King of the West Franks. Louis II, King de France (the Stammerer) (Andre Roux: Scrolls, 191.) (Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 130, Line 171-38.) (Paul, Nouveau Larousse Universel.) (Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 258.) (Andre Castelot, Histoire de La France, Tome 1, Page 387). AKA: Louis II, King d'Aquitaine. Also Known As: Louis "Le Begue". Born: in Nov 846 in Compiegne, Oise, Ile-de-France, France, son of Charles II, King de France and Ermentrude d'Orleans . Married in 862: Ansgarde de Bourgogne , daughter of Hardouin, Count de Bourgogne; She was given in marriage to Louis by her brother, Odon, often confused with Odon, Count of Troyes, an older man and one of Louis' detractors (Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 185). Note - between 867 and 879: Louis II was the King of Aquitaine from 867 to 879 and became King of France in 877, crowned at Compiegne by Hincmar, Archbishop of Rheims on 8 October. If the children and grandchildren of Charlemagne had an easy time ascending to the throne by virtue of their parentage, the same is not true for Louis. Louis had to be elected by the Greats - the nobles whose power had been growing steadily - and they conceded only after having received countships and additional powers. Moreover, Louis had to accept the tutelage of his maternal uncle, Hughes, Marquis of Neustria who also received the countship of Tours. He died 16 months later while making preparations to reprimand Bernard, Duke of Septimanie. Upon his death, nobles, looking to enhance their own power saw the kingdom partitioned between Louis III and Carloman, who were both crowned and anointed at Ferrieres in September 879 by Ansegis, Archbishop of Sens. Louis III's portion comprised Francia and Neustria, and Carloman ruled Burgundy, Aquitaine and Gothia. Married between 868 and 869: Adelaide=Adelheid de Paris, daughter of Adalhard, Count de Paris. Died: on 11 Apr 879 in France at age 32 Louis II died sooner than expected after having divided his kingdom between his two sons, Louis III and Carloman. To the older son went Francia and Neustria; and to the younger went Bourgogne, Aquitaine and the Marche of Spain. This creation of two kingdoms is highly disputed because the two sons are not viewed by some as legitimate because Charles le Chauve had not officially recognized Louis marriage to Ansgarde. Louis was not favored, and on 15 October 879, Provence and Bourgogne recognize Richilde's (Charles le Chauve's widow) brother, Bozon. Moreover, Louis, son of Louis le Germanique, also lays claim to the throne of France. Thus, to make matters rather complicated there exists three kings of France at this time. Father: Charles II "the Bald" , Holy Roman Emperor b: 13 JUN 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia Mother: Ermentrude de Orleans b: 27 SEP 830 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France Marriage 1 Luitgarde of Saxony b: ABT 848 in Saxony Children Ermengarde de France b: ABT 865 in France Marriage 2 Ansgarde of Neustria b: BEF 847 Married: 862 Event: Repudiated 878 8 Children Louis III b: 863 Carloman of France b: 866 Gisela b: 869 Marriage 3 Adelaide de Paris* b: ABT 844 in Paris, Seine, France Married: ABT 868 4 Married: WFT Est 857-877 2 Married: WFT Est 860-877 3 Married: ABT 862 in France 1 Married: 875 in France 1 Children Ermentrude of France b: ABT 870 in Paris, Seine, France Charles III "The Simple" King of France b: 17 SEP 879 in France Sources: Title: Ancestry.com Tree 1160 Text: Date of Import: Aug 8, 1998 Title: World Family Tree Vol. 29, Ed. 1 Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc. Publication: Release date: August 23, 1996 Note: Customer pedigree. Repository: Call Number: Media: Other Page: Tree 0902 Text: Date of Import: Aug 1, 1998 Title: Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: Louis II Text: b. 846 Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Ed. Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr. Publication: 1999 Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: 148-16 Title: Directory of Royal Genealogical Data Author: Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science Publication: Department of Computer Science, Hull University Note: usually reliable but sometimes includes hypothetical lines, mythological figures, etc Repository: Note: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/catalog.html Call Number: Media: Electronic Title: The Family Trees of the Kings of France Author: Jean-Charles Volkman Publication: Editions Jean-Paul Gisserot, Paris Repository: Note: JHM Library Call Number: Media: Book Name: Louis II the Stammerer le Begue CAROLINGIAN King of Franks Surname: Carolingian Given Name: Louis II the Stammerer le Begue NSFX: King of Franks Sex: M Birth: 1 Nov 0846 in France Death: 10 Apr 0879 in Compeigne, Oise, Neustria, France Reference Number: Newlin, Wa _UID: 970E82A91F088A43ABEB50EC6DAEB00E6FEB Note: !King of the Franks 877-79, Emperor of the West 878-9. [Desc. of Charlemagne] MINOR, NEWLIN, WAITE LINES !The middle and late ninth century were dominated by the raids of Arab pirates, who went so far as to set up bases on Italian soil and to sack the Vatican suburb of Rome in 846. The resistance, led by the last Carolingian emperor based in Italy, Louis II, and Pope John VIII, was spirited but unsuccessful. [The Oxford History of Medieval Europe] !Rivalries between the Byzantium Empire and Carolingian Empire were well brought out in a letter of 871 from Louis II to his eastern opposite number in which Louis justified his claim to the title of Roman emperor on grounds of virtue, inheritance, and divine anointing and condemned the Greeks for their cacodoxy (vile theology). [Oxford History] !Had the further byname of "the do-nothing", but indeed he had no chance of doing much, for he died two years after beginning his reign. [Leaders & Landmarks, Vol. II, p. 27] !M. 2. Adelheid, sister of Abbot Wulfard of Flavigny. [Ped. of Charlemagne, Vol. I, p. 164, 264] m. Ansgarde, dau of Hardouin; father of Adelaide who m. Rainulph II, Count de Poitou. [The Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 7] m.3 Adelaide/Aelis of Paris; father of Ermentrude of France. [Ancestral Roots, Line 143, p. 125] 1 2 3 4 5 6 Change Date: 2 Apr 2003 at 21:31:23 Father: Charles II the Bald CAROLINGIAN King of France b: 13 Jun 0823 in Frankfurt-am-Main,Hessen-Nassau,Germany Mother: Ermentrude de ORLEANS Queen of France b: 27 Sep 0830 in of Orleans, Loiret, France Marriage 1 Ansgarde of BURGUNDY b: ABT 0850 in France Married: 0862 in France Children Ermengarde Adelaide of FRANCE b: ABT 0863 in France Louis III, King of FRANCE b: ABT 0870 in France Carloman, King of FRANCE b: ABT 0872 in France Marriage 2 Adelaide, Queen of the FRANKS b: ABT 0857/0858 in Paris, France Married: 0875 Children Hedwig, Princess of FRANCE b: ABT 0875 in France Ermentrude, Princess of FRANCE b: ABT 0876 in France Charles III the Simple, King of the FRANKS b: 17 Sep 0879 in France Marriage 3 Luitgarde von SACHSEN b: ABT 0845 in Saxony Sources: Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. III Author: Buck, J. Orton; Beard, Timothy Field Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1988 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: The Oxford History of Medieval Europe Author: Holmes, George, ed. Publication: Oxford University Press, Oxford and New York, 1992 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Leaders & Landmarks in European History, Volume II: The Middle Ages Author: Moncrieff, A.R. Hope; Chaytor, The Rev. H.J., M.A.. Publication: The Gresham Publishing Company, London, 1913 Page: p. 27 Title: Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I Author: von Redlich, Marcellus Donald Alexander R. Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1986 Page: pp. 164, 264 Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry Author: Turton, William Harry Publication: DSO Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore, 1984, 1993 Page: p. 7 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700, Seventh Edition Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1995 Page: p. 123 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com 4. Charles the Child of Aquitaine, King of AquitaineBorn ± ABT. 847, died 866, approximately 19 years Name: Charles the Child Sex: M Title: King of Aquitaine Birth: ABT 847 1 Death: 866 1 Event: Acceded 855 King of Aquitaine Father: Charles II "the Bald" , Holy Roman Emperor b: 13 JUN 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia Mother: Ermentrude de Orleans b: 27 SEP 830 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France Sources: Title: The Family Trees of the Kings of France Author: Jean-Charles Volkman Publication: Editions Jean-Paul Gisserot, Paris Repository: Note: JHM Library Call Number: Media: Book 5. Carloman of France, Abbot of St. Medard SoissBorn 849, died ± ABT. 877, approximately 28 years Name: Caroloman Sex: M Title: Abbot of St Medard Soiss Birth: 849 1 Death: ABT 877 1 Father: Charles II "the Bald" , Holy Roman Emperor b: 13 JUN 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia Mother: Ermentrude de Orleans b: 27 SEP 830 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France Sources: Title: The Family Trees of the Kings of France Author: Jean-Charles Volkman Publication: Editions Jean-Paul Gisserot, Paris Repository: Note: JHM Library Call Number: Media: Book 7. Hersent Carolingian of France, Princess of FranceBorn 865 at Lorraine, France, died ± ABT. 890 at Name: Hersent CAROLINGIAN Princess of France Surname: Carolingian Given Name: Hersent NSFX: Princess of France _AKA: Ermentrud Sex: F Birth: 0865 in Lorraine, France Death: ABT 0890 Reference Number: Foster _UID: 6FA72CB17B97CF4E891F91A1B7008F286A01 Occupation: Abbess Hasnon Note: FOSTER LINE b. 860 [Judy Martin] m. Duke Regnier I de Lorraine; mother of Regnier II de Hainault who m.2 Adelaide de Bourgogne. [Ancestral Roots Line 140-17 as quoted by Ed Mann Dau. of King Charles II de France and Ermentrude de Orleans; m. Duke Regnier I de Lorraine; mother of Duke Giselbert de Lorraine who m. Gerberge von Sachsen. [Ancestral Roots, Line 140-17] Dau of Charles II 'the Bald; mother of Regnier and Giselbert. [Holly Forrest Tamer Dau of Charles II of the West Franks; m. Regnier I Longneck of Hennegau, Duc de Lorraine; mother of Giselbert Duc de Lorraine and Regnier II Count de Hainault. [James Griffiths 1 2 Change Date: 3 Apr 2003 at 21:07:36 Father: Charles II the Bald CAROLINGIAN King of France b: 13 Jun 0823 in Frankfurt-am-Main,Hessen-Nassau,Germany Mother: Ermentrude de ORLEANS Queen of France b: 27 Sep 0830 in of Orleans, Loiret, France Marriage 1 Regnier I, Duke de LORRAINE Count of Hainault b: 0860 in Hainault,Lorraine,France Married: 0889 Children Rainier II, Count de HAINAULT b: ABT 0892 in Lorraine, France Sources: Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700, Seventh Edition Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1995 Page: Line 140-17 Title: Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants Author: Buck, J. Orton; Langston Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1988 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com | |||
Adopted child: Ermentrud Carolingians | |||
| 3rd marriage Charles ""The Bald"" Carolingians, Holy Roman Emperor, son of Louis "'the Pious'" Carolingians, Holy Roman Emperor and Judith Andeck of Altdorf, Princess of Bavaria. Adoption parents: Louis of East "Louis the German" Franks, King of Bavaria and Emma of Bavaria, Queen of Germany Married Dec 14, 842 at Crecy, France (34 years married) to: Ermentrude of OrleansBorn Sep 27, 830 at Orleans, Loiret, France Children: 1. Rothilde of "Rothildis of Aquitaine" AquitaineBorn ± ABT. 844 at Aquitaine, France; 3, died ± ABT. 928, approximately 84 years Name: Rothildis d' Aquitaine 1 2 Sex: F ALIA: Rothilde /de \Neustria\/ Birth: ABT 844 in Aquitaine, France 3 Death: ABT 928 4 2 Father: Charles II "the Bald" , Holy Roman Emperor b: 13 JUN 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia Mother: Ermentrude de Orleans b: 27 SEP 830 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France Marriage 1 Sigebert VI Comte de Razes , Prince Ursus b: ABT 840 in Razes, Haute Vienne, Limousin, France Children Guillaume II Comte de Razes b: ABT 858 in France Marriage 2 Roger Comte du Maine b: ABT 844 in Maine, France Married: AFT 884 in 2nd husband Children Hugh (Herve) de Maine b: 885 in Le Mans, Sarthe, Maine/Pays-de-la-Loire, France Judith? de Maine b: 895 Sources: Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Page: Leo van de Pas, 11 Apr 2002 Title: The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest Author: Jim Weber Publication: ancestry.com Note: downloaded periodically 2001-2004. Updated frequently, with many sources. Repository: Note: jim.weber@nwintl.com Call Number: Media: Electronic Text: Date of Import: Oct 5, 2002 Title: Ancestry.com Tree 8319 Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Text: Date of Import: Jan 15, 2000 Title: The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest Author: Jim Weber Publication: ancestry.com Note: downloaded periodically 2001-2004. Updated frequently, with many sources. Repository: Note: jim.weber@nwintl.com Call Number: Media: Electronic 2. Judith of the West "Princess of the West Franks" FranksBorn 844 at France, died Apr 870, 25 or 26 years Name: Judith CAROLINGIAN DYNASTY Princess of the West Franks Surname: Carolingian Dynasty Given Name: Judith NSFX: Princess of the West Franks Sex: F Birth: 0844 in France Death: Apr 0870 1 Reference Number: Foster _UID: C882E475E6E9F9409D7F4E773BBCE538A0F6 Note: !Hist. of Buckfield FOSTER LINE - 28th ggrandmother !Baldwin I is her 3rd husband. [Desc. of Charlemagne] !First husband was Ethelwulf, a marriage which did not please his people nor his grown-up sons, for the old king was forced into retirement. Upon Ethelwulf's death, she married her oldest stepson, Athelstan, and on his death she married Baldwin, Count of Flanders. [Leaders & Landmarks, Vol. II, p. 16] !Judith was only 13 when she was wed to Ethelwulf. This source says she married Ethelbald instead of Athelstan. Whoever it was, it upset the canons of the Church and she was sent back to her father. [Knight's Popular History of England, Vol. 1, p. 99] !Widow of Ethelwulf, King of England,father of Alfred the Great. [Our Noble & Gentle Families of Royal Descent Together with Their Paternal Ancestry by Joseph Foster p 178 1884 Edition] Princess of France, dau. of Charles II the Bald. [Royalty for Commoners, p. 119] 2 3 4 5 6 Change Date: 3 Apr 2003 at 21:00:02 Father: Charles II the Bald CAROLINGIAN King of France b: 13 Jun 0823 in Frankfurt-am-Main,Hessen-Nassau,Germany Mother: Ermentrude de ORLEANS Queen of France b: 27 Sep 0830 in of Orleans, Loiret, France Marriage 1 Ethelwulf Nobel Wolf ANGLO-SAXONS King of England b: 0806 in Wessex,England Married: ABT 1 Oct 0856/0857 in Verberie sur Oise, France Marriage 2 Athelstan ANGLO-SAXONS King of England b: ABT 0834 in of Wantage,Berkshire,England Married: 0858/0859 in ,,,England Marriage 3 Ethelbald of West Saxons ANGLO-SAXONS King of Wessex b: ABT 0830 in of Wantage,Berkshire,England Married: 0860 Marriage 4 Baldwin I 'Iron Arm', Count of FLANDERS b: ABT 0815 in Flanders, Nord, France Married: 0862 in Flandre, Austrasia Children Charles of FLANDERS b: ABT 0863 in Flanders, Nord, France Guinidilda de FLANDERS b: ABT 0864 in of Flanders Baldwin II 'the Bald, Count of FLANDERS b: 0865 in Flanders, Nord, France Rodolphe de FLANDRES b: ABT 0867 in Flanders, France Sources: Title: Anglo-Saxon Bishops, Kings and Nobles Author: Searle, William George Publication: Cambridge, 1899 Call Number: Eng 104 Page: p. 343 Repository: Name: Greenville County Public Library Title: History of Buckfield Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. III Author: Buck, J. Orton; Beard, Timothy Field Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1988 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: The Popular History of England Author: Knight, Charles Publication: T.Y. Crowell, New York, c. 1854 Page: Vol. I, p. 99 Title: Our Noble and Gentle Families of Royal Descent Together With Their Paternal Ancestry Author: Foster, Joseph Publication: Joseph Foster, 1884 Page: p. 178 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Royalty for Commoners, Revised Second Edition Author: Stuart, Roderick W. Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1995 Page: p. 119 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com 3. Charles of AquitaineBorn ± ABT. 845 4. Louis of the ""the Stammerer"" Franks, King of FranceBorn Nov 1, 846 at France, died Apr 10, 879 at Compiegne, France; 3, 32 years Name: Louis II 'The Stammerer' of France 1 Sex: M ALIA: "The /Stammerer"/ Title: King of France Name: Louis II of France 2 3 4 Birth: 1 NOV 846 in France 5 Birth: 1 SEP 846 in St. Martins or Tours 3 Death: 10 APR 879 in Compeigne, Oise, France 6 Event: Acceded 877 King of France 7 Event: Gen Source 29 MAR 1994 ARP 1460:14 3 Note: Different sources attribute children to different mothers. The Directory of Royal Genealogical Data and The Encyclopedia Britannica has Adelaide as mother of Charles III, but the Phillips family shows Ansgarde. The Directory shows neither Ermentrude or Ermengard. The Directory of Royal Genealogy: 856 King of Neustria, 867 King of Acuitaine, 877 King of the West Franks. Louis II, King de France (the Stammerer) (Andre Roux: Scrolls, 191.) (Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 130, Line 171-38.) (Paul, Nouveau Larousse Universel.) (Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 258.) (Andre Castelot, Histoire de La France, Tome 1, Page 387). AKA: Louis II, King d'Aquitaine. Also Known As: Louis "Le Begue". Born: in Nov 846 in Compiegne, Oise, Ile-de-France, France, son of Charles II, King de France and Ermentrude d'Orleans . Married in 862: Ansgarde de Bourgogne , daughter of Hardouin, Count de Bourgogne; She was given in marriage to Louis by her brother, Odon, often confused with Odon, Count of Troyes, an older man and one of Louis' detractors (Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 185). Note - between 867 and 879: Louis II was the King of Aquitaine from 867 to 879 and became King of France in 877, crowned at Compiegne by Hincmar, Archbishop of Rheims on 8 October. If the children and grandchildren of Charlemagne had an easy time ascending to the throne by virtue of their parentage, the same is not true for Louis. Louis had to be elected by the Greats - the nobles whose power had been growing steadily - and they conceded only after having received countships and additional powers. Moreover, Louis had to accept the tutelage of his maternal uncle, Hughes, Marquis of Neustria who also received the countship of Tours. He died 16 months later while making preparations to reprimand Bernard, Duke of Septimanie. Upon his death, nobles, looking to enhance their own power saw the kingdom partitioned between Louis III and Carloman, who were both crowned and anointed at Ferrieres in September 879 by Ansegis, Archbishop of Sens. Louis III's portion comprised Francia and Neustria, and Carloman ruled Burgundy, Aquitaine and Gothia. Married between 868 and 869: Adelaide=Adelheid de Paris, daughter of Adalhard, Count de Paris. Died: on 11 Apr 879 in France at age 32 Louis II died sooner than expected after having divided his kingdom between his two sons, Louis III and Carloman. To the older son went Francia and Neustria; and to the younger went Bourgogne, Aquitaine and the Marche of Spain. This creation of two kingdoms is highly disputed because the two sons are not viewed by some as legitimate because Charles le Chauve had not officially recognized Louis marriage to Ansgarde. Louis was not favored, and on 15 October 879, Provence and Bourgogne recognize Richilde's (Charles le Chauve's widow) brother, Bozon. Moreover, Louis, son of Louis le Germanique, also lays claim to the throne of France. Thus, to make matters rather complicated there exists three kings of France at this time. Father: Charles II "the Bald" , Holy Roman Emperor b: 13 JUN 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia Mother: Ermentrude de Orleans b: 27 SEP 830 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France Marriage 1 Luitgarde of Saxony b: ABT 848 in Saxony Children Ermengarde de France b: ABT 865 in France Marriage 2 Ansgarde of Neustria b: BEF 847 Married: 862 Event: Repudiated 878 8 Children Louis III b: 863 Carloman of France b: 866 Gisela b: 869 Marriage 3 Adelaide de Paris* b: ABT 844 in Paris, Seine, France Married: ABT 868 4 Married: WFT Est 857-877 2 Married: WFT Est 860-877 3 Married: ABT 862 in France 1 Married: 875 in France 1 Children Ermentrude of France b: ABT 870 in Paris, Seine, France Charles III "The Simple" King of France b: 17 SEP 879 in France Sources: Title: Ancestry.com Tree 1160 Text: Date of Import: Aug 8, 1998 Title: World Family Tree Vol. 29, Ed. 1 Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc. Publication: Release date: August 23, 1996 Note: Customer pedigree. Repository: Call Number: Media: Other Page: Tree 0902 Text: Date of Import: Aug 1, 1998 Title: Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: Louis II Text: b. 846 Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Ed. Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr. Publication: 1999 Repository: Call Number: Media: Book Page: 148-16 Title: Directory of Royal Genealogical Data Author: Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science Publication: Department of Computer Science, Hull University Note: usually reliable but sometimes includes hypothetical lines, mythological figures, etc Repository: Note: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/catalog.html Call Number: Media: Electronic Title: The Family Trees of the Kings of France Author: Jean-Charles Volkman Publication: Editions Jean-Paul Gisserot, Paris Repository: Note: JHM Library Call Number: Media: Book Name: Louis II the Stammerer le Begue CAROLINGIAN King of Franks Surname: Carolingian Given Name: Louis II the Stammerer le Begue NSFX: King of Franks Sex: M Birth: 1 Nov 0846 in France Death: 10 Apr 0879 in Compeigne, Oise, Neustria, France Reference Number: Newlin, Wa _UID: 970E82A91F088A43ABEB50EC6DAEB00E6FEB Note: !King of the Franks 877-79, Emperor of the West 878-9. [Desc. of Charlemagne] MINOR, NEWLIN, WAITE LINES !The middle and late ninth century were dominated by the raids of Arab pirates, who went so far as to set up bases on Italian soil and to sack the Vatican suburb of Rome in 846. The resistance, led by the last Carolingian emperor based in Italy, Louis II, and Pope John VIII, was spirited but unsuccessful. [The Oxford History of Medieval Europe] !Rivalries between the Byzantium Empire and Carolingian Empire were well brought out in a letter of 871 from Louis II to his eastern opposite number in which Louis justified his claim to the title of Roman emperor on grounds of virtue, inheritance, and divine anointing and condemned the Greeks for their cacodoxy (vile theology). [Oxford History] !Had the further byname of "the do-nothing", but indeed he had no chance of doing much, for he died two years after beginning his reign. [Leaders & Landmarks, Vol. II, p. 27] !M. 2. Adelheid, sister of Abbot Wulfard of Flavigny. [Ped. of Charlemagne, Vol. I, p. 164, 264] m. Ansgarde, dau of Hardouin; father of Adelaide who m. Rainulph II, Count de Poitou. [The Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 7] m.3 Adelaide/Aelis of Paris; father of Ermentrude of France. [Ancestral Roots, Line 143, p. 125] 1 2 3 4 5 6 Change Date: 2 Apr 2003 at 21:31:23 Father: Charles II the Bald CAROLINGIAN King of France b: 13 Jun 0823 in Frankfurt-am-Main,Hessen-Nassau,Germany Mother: Ermentrude de ORLEANS Queen of France b: 27 Sep 0830 in of Orleans, Loiret, France Marriage 1 Ansgarde of BURGUNDY b: ABT 0850 in France Married: 0862 in France Children Ermengarde Adelaide of FRANCE b: ABT 0863 in France Louis III, King of FRANCE b: ABT 0870 in France Carloman, King of FRANCE b: ABT 0872 in France Marriage 2 Adelaide, Queen of the FRANKS b: ABT 0857/0858 in Paris, France Married: 0875 Children Hedwig, Princess of FRANCE b: ABT 0875 in France Ermentrude, Princess of FRANCE b: ABT 0876 in France Charles III the Simple, King of the FRANKS b: 17 Sep 0879 in France Marriage 3 Luitgarde von SACHSEN b: ABT 0845 in Saxony Sources: Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. III Author: Buck, J. Orton; Beard, Timothy Field Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1988 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: The Oxford History of Medieval Europe Author: Holmes, George, ed. Publication: Oxford University Press, Oxford and New York, 1992 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Leaders & Landmarks in European History, Volume II: The Middle Ages Author: Moncrieff, A.R. Hope; Chaytor, The Rev. H.J., M.A.. Publication: The Gresham Publishing Company, London, 1913 Page: p. 27 Title: Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I Author: von Redlich, Marcellus Donald Alexander R. Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1986 Page: pp. 164, 264 Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry Author: Turton, William Harry Publication: DSO Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore, 1984, 1993 Page: p. 7 Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700, Seventh Edition Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1995 Page: p. 123 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com 5. Charles the Child of Aquitaine, King of AquitaineBorn ± ABT. 847, died 866, approximately 19 years Name: Charles the Child Sex: M Title: King of Aquitaine Birth: ABT 847 1 Death: 866 1 Event: Acceded 855 King of Aquitaine Father: Charles II "the Bald" , Holy Roman Emperor b: 13 JUN 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia Mother: Ermentrude de Orleans b: 27 SEP 830 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France Sources: Title: The Family Trees of the Kings of France Author: Jean-Charles Volkman Publication: Editions Jean-Paul Gisserot, Paris Repository: Note: JHM Library Call Number: Media: Book 6. Carloman of France, Abbot of St. Medard SoissBorn 849, died ± ABT. 877, approximately 28 years Name: Caroloman Sex: M Title: Abbot of St Medard Soiss Birth: 849 1 Death: ABT 877 1 Father: Charles II "the Bald" , Holy Roman Emperor b: 13 JUN 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia Mother: Ermentrude de Orleans b: 27 SEP 830 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France Sources: Title: The Family Trees of the Kings of France Author: Jean-Charles Volkman Publication: Editions Jean-Paul Gisserot, Paris Repository: Note: JHM Library Call Number: Media: Book 8. Hersent Carolingian of France, Princess of FranceBorn 865 at Lorraine, France, died ± ABT. 890 at Name: Hersent CAROLINGIAN Princess of France Surname: Carolingian Given Name: Hersent NSFX: Princess of France _AKA: Ermentrud Sex: F Birth: 0865 in Lorraine, France Death: ABT 0890 Reference Number: Foster _UID: 6FA72CB17B97CF4E891F91A1B7008F286A01 Occupation: Abbess Hasnon Note: FOSTER LINE b. 860 [Judy Martin] m. Duke Regnier I de Lorraine; mother of Regnier II de Hainault who m.2 Adelaide de Bourgogne. [Ancestral Roots Line 140-17 as quoted by Ed Mann Dau. of King Charles II de France and Ermentrude de Orleans; m. Duke Regnier I de Lorraine; mother of Duke Giselbert de Lorraine who m. Gerberge von Sachsen. [Ancestral Roots, Line 140-17] Dau of Charles II 'the Bald; mother of Regnier and Giselbert. [Holly Forrest Tamer Dau of Charles II of the West Franks; m. Regnier I Longneck of Hennegau, Duc de Lorraine; mother of Giselbert Duc de Lorraine and Regnier II Count de Hainault. [James Griffiths 1 2 Change Date: 3 Apr 2003 at 21:07:36 Father: Charles II the Bald CAROLINGIAN King of France b: 13 Jun 0823 in Frankfurt-am-Main,Hessen-Nassau,Germany Mother: Ermentrude de ORLEANS Queen of France b: 27 Sep 0830 in of Orleans, Loiret, France Marriage 1 Regnier I, Duke de LORRAINE Count of Hainault b: 0860 in Hainault,Lorraine,France Married: 0889 Children Rainier II, Count de HAINAULT b: ABT 0892 in Lorraine, France Sources: Repository: Name: Cheryl Varner Library Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700, Seventh Edition Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1995 Page: Line 140-17 Title: Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants Author: Buck, J. Orton; Langston Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1988 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com | |||
Adopted child: Louis of the ""the Stammerer"" Franks, King of France | |||
Adopted child: Charles of Aquitaine | |||
Adopted child: Judith of the West "Princess of the West Franks" Franks | |||
Adopted child: Carloman of France, Abbot of St. Medard Soiss | |||
Adopted child: Hersent Carolingian of France, Princess of France | |||
Adopted child: Charles the Child of Aquitaine, King of Aquitaine | |||
Adopted child: Ermentrud Carolingians | |||
| 4th marriage Charles ""The Bald"" Carolingians, Holy Roman Emperor, son of Louis "'the Pious'" Carolingians, Holy Roman Emperor and Judith Andeck of Altdorf, Princess of Bavaria. Adoption parents: Louis of East "Louis the German" Franks, King of Bavaria and Emma of Bavaria, Queen of Germany Married Nov 25, 870 at Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia (6 years married) to: Richaut of Metz, Queen of Ardennes, daughter of Budwine of Metz, Count of Metz and Richilde of Arles.Born ± ABT. 850 at Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France, died 910, approximately 60 years Name: Richaut of Metz 1 2 Sex: F Title: Queens of Ardennes Name: Richildis of Metz 3 Birth: ABT 845 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France 4 Death: 910 3 Death: ABT 877 2 Death: APR 877 5 Father: Budwine (Bouin\Beuvesde) Count of Italy & Metz b: ABT 810 in Amiens, Somme, Picardy, France Mother: Richildis of Turin b: ABT 822 in Turin, Italy Marriage 1 Charles II "the Bald" , Holy Roman Emperor b: 13 JUN 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia Married: 25 NOV 870 1 Married: WFT Est 839-871 Married: 870 2 Married: 22 JAN 869/70 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia 5 Children Rothaut Princess of France b: ABT 870 in Bourges, Cher, Berry/Centre, France Sources: Title: World Family Tree Vol. 29, Ed. 1 Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc. Publication: Release date: August 23, 1996 Note: Customer pedigree. Repository: Call Number: Media: Other Page: Tree 0472 Text: Date of Import: Jun 19, 1999 Title: The Family Trees of the Kings of France Author: Jean-Charles Volkman Publication: Editions Jean-Paul Gisserot, Paris Repository: Note: JHM Library Call Number: Media: Book Title: The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest Author: Jim Weber Publication: ancestry.com Note: downloaded periodically 2001-2004. Updated frequently, with many sources. Repository: Note: jim.weber@nwintl.com Call Number: Media: Electronic Title: Ancestry.com Tree 8319 Repository: Call Number: Media: Electronic Text: Date of Import: Jan 15, 2000 Children: 1. Reheut of France, Princess of FranceBorn ± ABT. 870 at Rhineland, Germany Name: Reheut, Princess of FRANCE Surname: France Given Name: Reheut, Princess of Sex: F Birth: ABT 0870 in Rhineland Reference Number: Minor,Newl _UID: 54D3892213D33B4ABFCBDBF572F63AA5DEE5 Note: Dau. of Charles II the Bald and Richaut of Metz; m. Hugh, Count of Bourges; mother of Richilde of Bourges. [Ancestral Roots, p. 50] MINOR, NEWLIN LINES Dau. of Charles the Bald, Emperor of the West; m. Hugh, Count of Bourges; mother of Richilde who m. Gerlon/Theobald, Count of Chartres. [Charlemagne & Others, Chart 3316] m. Hugh, Count of Bourges; mother of Richilde. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD1, CD00 Author: Automated Archives, Inc. Publication: Genealogical Research System, 1994 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com 2. Rothilde of Neustria of "Rothilde of Neustria of the West Franks" France, Princess of FranceBorn 871 at France, died Mar 22, 927/28, approximately 56 years Name: Rothilde of Neustria de FRANCE Surname: France Given Name: Rothilde of Neustria de _AKA: Rothild of the West Franks Sex: F Birth: 0871 in France Death: 22 Mar 0927/0928 Reference Number: Foster _UID: 1429977EECDBA244AAE2DE87A2C717219101 Note: m. Roger du Maine; mother of Hugh I du Maine. [Ed Mann FOSTER LINE Dau. of Charles II the Bald and Richildis of Metz; m. Count of Maine. [WFT European Origins] 1 Change Date: 1 Apr 2003 at 21:56:03 Father: Charles II the Bald CAROLINGIAN King of France b: 13 Jun 0823 in Frankfurt-am-Main,Hessen-Nassau,Germany Mother: Richaut of METZ b: ABT 0850 in of Metz Marriage 1 Roger, Count de MAINE b: ABT 0860 in Maine,France Children Hugh I, Count de MAINE b: ABT 0885 in of Maine,France Sources: Repository: Name: Todd Varner Library Title: World Family Tree European Origins, Volume E1 Author: Family Tree Maker Publication: Broderbund Software, Inc., 1997 From 'Glick/Foster Ancestry' at Rootsweb.com | |||