woman Bonne Adelaide de Lorraine‏‎, daughter of Gottfried "The Old" Count of Verdun and Matilda Billung of Saxony‏. Adoption parents: N.N. and Matilda Billung of Saxony
Born ‎± 953 at ,Ardenne,France, died ‎ 979 at Y‎, approximately 26 years
Name Suffix: Duchess of Lorraine

GEDCOM line 18722 not recognizable or too long:
() 2 GIVN Adelaide

Per Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (148:19), (149:19), her parentage is
unknown.


This page is just a start. Not all information has bee varified.


This page is just a start. Not all information has bee varified.

Married ‎± 972 (approximately 7 years married) to:

man Charles I le Gros, Duke of Lower Lorraine‏‎, son of Louis IV "Transmarinus" King Of France and Gerberga of Saxony Abbess of Notre Dame , Abbess of Notre Dame‏.
Born ‎ 953 at Laon,Champagne, baptized ‎ at France - son of Louis IV, died ‎ May 21, 992 at Kerker,Orlbeans,France‎, 38 or 39 years, buried ‎ at St. Servatius,Maastricht. Occupation: Duc de Basse-Lorraine (Brabant) (976), ‎1st marriage to: Bonne Adelaide de Lorraine, 2nd married/ related to: N.N., 3rd married/ related to: Adelaise De Vermandois
Name Suffix: [Duke of Lorrain
Ancestral File Number: 9GDD-8J
?? Line 4249: (New PAF RIN=339)
1 NAME Charles Prince Of The /FRANKS/

?? Line 4250: (New PAF RIN=339)
1 TITL [Duke of Lorraine]

OCCU Duke of Lorraine ...
SOUR 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve) says 953, Rheims, France; members.aol.com/sargen3 says
BEF 953, Laon, Aisne, France; COMYNI.GED (Compuserve) says ABT 953;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 88
SOUR Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, 425 says 992;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 88;
COLLINS.ROY (Compuserve) says 991; HAWKINS.GED
Charles d'Outremer - 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve);Duke of Bas-Lorraine - COMYN4.TAF
(Compuserve), p. 24; Caroling - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve); Charles of Laon,Aisne
, France; Duke of Lower Lorraine, Prince of France, set aside for the French
throne by Hugh Capet - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 88; Duke
of Nether Lorraine - Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 380
CHARLES, son of LOUIS IV and GERBERGA DE SAXONIE, Duke of Nether Lorraine and Brabant, the heir, but excluded from the throne. Bonne, Countess d' Arderne was his 1st wife - Americans of Royal Descent,
Charles H. Browning, p. 409
Duke of Lower Lorraine - HAWKINS.GED

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GIVN Charles I of
SURN LORRAINE
NSFX *
Younger son of the Frankish King Louis IV, of the Carolingian line.
Charles I received Lower Lorraine as a duch from Holy Roman EmperorOtto
II in 977. Charles aided Otto again Lothair of Italy. Charles I was
defeated by Hugh Capet in attempt to secure the Frankish crown in 987.He
was taken prisoner, held at Orleans, where he died ca. 992.
EVEN of the Germans
TYPE Prisoner
DATE 959
PLAC Germany
Charles 1st of Lorraine was taken prisoner by the Germans in 859. Hiskingdom of Lorraine was then divided into two duchies, Mosel andBrabant as vassal states under the German crown of Otto I the
Great.
ABBR Trager's Chronology
PAGE Henrickson's Chronicles AD951-960

DATE 24 APR 2000

Source: Tim Sandberg's GEDCOM V. Oct. 29, 2001
WARNING! THIS GENEALOGY IS, AND WILL REMAIN FOREVER, A WORK IN PROGRESS. THE AUTHOR IS NOT A PROFESSIONAL GENEALOGIST, BUT HAS TRIED TO VERIFY ALL DATA. IT CANNOT BE GUARANTEED FREE OF ERRORS!

OCCU Duke of Lorraine ...
SOUR 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve) says 953, Rheims, France; members.aol.com/sargen3 says
BEF 953, Laon, Aisne, France; COMYNI.GED (Compuserve) says ABT 953;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 88
SOUR Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, 425 says 992;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 88;
COLLINS.ROY (Compuserve) says 991; HAWKINS.GED
Charles d'Outremer - 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve);Duke of Bas-Lorraine - COMYN4.TAF
(Compuserve), p. 24; Caroling - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve); Charles of Laon,Aisne
, France; Duke of Lower Lorraine, Prince of France, set aside for the French
throne by Hugh Capet - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 88; Duke
of Nether Lorraine - Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 380
CHARLES, son of LOUIS IV and GERBERGA DE SAXONIE, Duke of Nether Lorraine and Brabant, the heir, but excluded from the throne. Bonne, Countess d' Arderne was his 1st wife - Americans of Royal Descent,
Charles H. Browning, p. 409
Duke of Lower Lorraine - HAWKINS.GED

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GIVN Charles I of
SURN LORRAINE
NSFX *
Younger son of the Frankish King Louis IV, of the Carolingian line.
Charles I received Lower Lorraine as a duch from Holy Roman EmperorOtto
II in 977. Charles aided Otto again Lothair of Italy. Charles I was
defeated by Hugh Capet in attempt to secure the Frankish crown in 987.He
was taken prisoner, held at Orleans, where he died ca. 992.
EVEN of the Germans
TYPE Prisoner
DATE 959
PLAC Germany
Charles 1st of Lorraine was taken prisoner by the Germans in 859. Hiskingdom of Lorraine was then divided into two duchies, Mosel andBrabant as vassal states under the German crown of Otto I the
Great.
ABBR Trager's Chronology
PAGE Henrickson's Chronicles AD951-960

DATE 24 APR 2000

Source: Tim Sandberg's GEDCOM V. Oct. 29, 2001
WARNING! THIS GENEALOGY IS, AND WILL REMAIN FOREVER, A WORK IN PROGRESS. THE AUTHOR IS NOT A PROFESSIONAL GENEALOGIST, BUT HAS TRIED TO VERIFY ALL DATA. IT CANNOT BE GUARANTEED FREE OF ERRORS!

OCCU Duke of Lorraine ...
SOUR 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve) says 953, Rheims, France; members.aol.com/sargen3 says
BEF 953, Laon, Aisne, France; COMYNI.GED (Compuserve) says ABT 953;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 88
SOUR Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, 425 says 992;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 88;
COLLINS.ROY (Compuserve) says 991; HAWKINS.GED
Charles d'Outremer - 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve);Duke of Bas-Lorraine - COMYN4.TAF
(Compuserve), p. 24; Caroling - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve); Charles of Laon,Aisne
, France; Duke of Lower Lorraine, Prince of France, set aside for the French
throne by Hugh Capet - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 88; Duke
of Nether Lorraine - Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 380
CHARLES, son of LOUIS IV and GERBERGA DE SAXONIE, Duke of Nether Lorraine and Brabant, the heir, but excluded from the throne. Bonne, Countess d' Arderne was his 1st wife - Americans of Royal Descent,
Charles H. Browning, p. 409
Duke of Lower Lorraine - HAWKINS.GED

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GIVN Charles I of
SURN LORRAINE
NSFX *
Younger son of the Frankish King Louis IV, of the Carolingian line.
Charles I received Lower Lorraine as a duch from Holy Roman EmperorOtto
II in 977. Charles aided Otto again Lothair of Italy. Charles I was
defeated by Hugh Capet in attempt to secure the Frankish crown in 987.He
was taken prisoner, held at Orleans, where he died ca. 992.
EVEN of the Germans
TYPE Prisoner
DATE 959
PLAC Germany
Charles 1st of Lorraine was taken prisoner by the Germans in 859. Hiskingdom of Lorraine was then divided into two duchies, Mosel andBrabant as vassal states under the German crown of Otto I the
Great.
ABBR Trager's Chronology
PAGE Henrickson's Chronicles AD951-960

DATE 24 APR 2000

GEDCOM line 18707 not recognizable or too long:
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GEDCOM line 18708 not recognizable or too long:
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Per Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (148:19), (149:19), Duke of Lower
Lorraine.

Seal to Parents: 9 MAY 1955 SLAKE - Salt Lake City, UT
Name Suffix: [DUKE OF LORRAIN
Ancestral File Number: 9GDD-8J
Charles, Prince de France
(Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 88, Line 120-35.)
(Alain Decaux Andre Castelot, Marcel Jullian et J. Levron,
Histoire de La France et des Francais au Jour le Jour
(Librairie Academique Perrin, 1976), Tome 1, Page 387). AKA:
Charles de Laon. AKA: Charles I, Duke de Lorraine. Born: in
953 in Laon, Ile-de-France, France, son of Louis IV, King de
France and Gerberge de Saxe, Some sources
assert that this Charles was born in the year
943. Married before 970: Bonne=Adelaide d'Ardenne,
daughter of Godefroy, Count d'Ardenne
Note - in 977: Charles became the Duke of the
Basse-Lorraine [Lower Lorraine] in 977. Died: on 21 May 992
Some sources assert that this Charles died in the year 993.

Children:

1.
man Othon , Duke of Lower Lorraine Martel‏‎
Born ‎± 973 at Lower,Lorraine,France, died ‎between 1004 BET., - and ‎, 31 or 32 years
2.
woman Gerberga (Gerbega) of Brabant Dutchess/Brabant , Dutchess/Brabant‏
Born ‎± 975 at Lower,Lorraine,France, died ‎after Jan 27, 1018‎
GEDCOM line 14111 not recognizable or too long:
() 2 GIVN Gerberga (Gerbega)

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3.
woman Ermengarde of Lorraine‏
Born ‎± 970/975 at Lower,Lorraine,France, died ‎ 1044‎, approximately 74 years
GEDCOM line 30438 not recognizable or too long:
() 2 GIVN Ermengarde

GEDCOM line 30439 not recognizable or too long:
() 2 SURN of Lorraine

Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (149:20) calls her Ermengarde, but ES calls her
Adelheid.

abwilson@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Alan B. Wilson) posted to
soc.genealogy.medieval on 25 Sep 1997 (in part):
Subject: Re: ascend. d'Albert de Namur
"Moriarty, "Plantagenet Ancestry," pp. 125 & 128 shows the wife of
ALBERT I DE NAMUR to be Ermentrude (Adelaide), daughter of CHARLES,
DUKE OF LOWER LORRAINE, and his wife, ADELAIDE, whose parentage is
not identified. Weis, "Ancestral Roots," 149:19-20; Winkhaus, "Ahnen zu
Karl dem Grossen und Widukind,: pp. 103 & 127; and Schwennicke (ed.),
"Europaische Stammtafeln," ii, 1 and vii, 68 similarly identify the wife
of ALBERT I DE NAMUR.
Christian Settipani, "La prehistoire des Capetiens: 481-987," and
Winfred Glocker, "Die Verwandten der Ottonen und ihre Bedeutung in der
Polotik," show an ancestry for Ermengarde, wife of ALBERT I DE NAMUR,
which differs from Moriarty, et al., as well as from the two versions
listed above by Pierre-Yves Roy."
[following is my synopsis]: Ermangarde's father was Otto Duke of Lower
Lorraine, (970-1006). Otto was the son of Charles , thus inserting a
generation beteween Ermengarde and her traditional father. Otto's
mother is given as an unnamed daughter of ROBERT DE VERMANDOIS
(931/934 - 966), Count of Meaux, Count of Troyes.
4.
man Charles Prince of Lorraine‏
Born ‎ 991‎
5.
woman Gerberge De Lorraine‏
Born ‎± 977 at Lower,Lorraine,France, died ‎± 1016‎, approximately 39 years
Seal to Parents: 30 JUN 1943
6.
man Eudes, Duc de Basse-Lorraine‏‎
Born ‎± 979 at Lower,Lorraine,France, died ‎ 1005‎, approximately 26 years. Occupation: Duc de Basse-Lorraine (Brabant) (991)
8.
man Duke Alto of Lothringen‏‎
Born ‎ 975‎
9.
man Duke Karl of Lothringen‏‎
Born ‎ 987‎
10.
man Duke Ludwig of Lothringen‏‎
Born ‎ 989‎


2nd marriage
woman Bonne Adelaide de Lorraine‏‎, daughter of Gottfried "The Old" Count of Verdun and Matilda Billung of Saxony‏. Adoption parents: N.N. and Matilda Billung of Saxony

Married ‎± 972 (approximately 7 years married) to:

N.N.‎


3rd marriage
woman Bonne Adelaide de Lorraine‏‎, daughter of Gottfried "The Old" Count of Verdun and Matilda Billung of Saxony‏. Adoption parents: N.N. and Matilda Billung of Saxony

Married ‎± 972 (approximately 7 years married) to:

N.N.‎