Louis II "The Stammerer" , King of France, son of Charles II "The Bald" King of France and Ermentrude Queen of Franks. Nickname: "The Stammerer", born Sep 1, 846 at ,,,France, baptized at France - Aka Louis le Begue, died Apr 10, 879 at Compiaegne,Neustria, 32 years Source: GEDCOM File on RootsWeb.com Entries: 18129 Updated: Sat Aug 25 14:12:03 2001 Contact: Doug Lusty Abbrev: SOURCE 337 Title: Kingdom's of Europe, Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ruling Monarchs FromAncient Times to the Present Author: Gene Gurney Publication: Crown Publishers, New York. 1982 Page: Gurney page 125. Kingdom of France Ruled BET 877 AND 879 France Note: Louis II, son of Charles the Bald, ruled the Kingdom of France,succeeding his father in 877. Louis II ruled until 879, succeeded byhis son Louis III I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this, So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun and wanting to know, but do not respond to the 'know it alls' , that dont have manners.I dont consider them Kin! Thanks and Happy Hunting! K7179wt TITL pennington.FTW REPO CALN MEDI Other PAGE Tree 1222 DATA TEXT Date of Import: Aug 19, 1997 TITL pennington.FTW REPO CALN MEDI Other PAGE Tree 337 TITL Kingdom's of Europe, Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ruling Monarchs FromAncient Times to the Present AUTH Gene Gurney PUBL Crown Publishers, New York. 1982 PAGE Gurney page 125. Known as "Louis the Stammerer". OCCU Emperor of the West ... SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 1 Nov 846, France; Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p.130 says Nov 846; COLLINS.ROY (Compuserve) & CHARL.TXT say 844; SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 10 Apr 879, Compiegne,Oise, France; 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve), COMYNI.GED (Compuserve); Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130; SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html ; Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130; HAWKINS.GED;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family ; Louis the Stammerer,son of Charles II, emperor of the West, was the king of France (r. 877-879). His succession was shared by his sons Carloman and Louis III - Encyclopedia, p. 491; King of Aquitaine, Caroling, King of France - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), 1144;King of West Franks, King of France, 877-879, Emperor of the West, 878-879; Adelaide was his 2nd wife - Royalty for Commoner s, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130 DATE 31 MAY 2000 EVEN TYPE Title (Facts Pg) PLAC Roi de France - le Begue TITL pennington.FTW REPO CALN MEDI Other PAGE Tree 1222 DATA TEXT Date of Import: Aug 19, 1997 TITL pennington.FTW REPO CALN MEDI Other PAGE Tree 337 TITL Kingdom's of Europe, Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ruling Monarchs FromAncient Times to the Present AUTH Gene Gurney PUBL Crown Publishers, New York. 1982 PAGE Gurney page 125. Known as "Louis the Stammerer". OCCU Emperor of the West ... SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 1 Nov 846, France; Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p.130 says Nov 846; COLLINS.ROY (Compuserve) & CHARL.TXT say 844; SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 10 Apr 879, Compiegne,Oise, France; 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve), COMYNI.GED (Compuserve); Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130; SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html ; Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130; HAWKINS.GED;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family ; Louis the Stammerer,son of Charles II, emperor of the West, was the king of France (r. 877-879). His succession was shared by his sons Carloman and Louis III - Encyclopedia, p. 491; King of Aquitaine, Caroling, King of France - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), 1144;King of West Franks, King of France, 877-879, Emperor of the West, 878-879; Adelaide was his 2nd wife - Royalty for Commoner s, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130 DATE 31 MAY 2000 EVEN TYPE Title (Facts Pg) PLAC Roi de France - le Begue TITL pennington.FTW REPO CALN MEDI Other PAGE Tree 1222 DATA TEXT Date of Import: Aug 19, 1997 TITL pennington.FTW REPO CALN MEDI Other PAGE Tree 337 TITL Kingdom's of Europe, Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ruling Monarchs FromAncient Times to the Present AUTH Gene Gurney PUBL Crown Publishers, New York. 1982 PAGE Gurney page 125. Known as "Louis the Stammerer". OCCU Emperor of the West ... SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 1 Nov 846, France; Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p.130 says Nov 846; COLLINS.ROY (Compuserve) & CHARL.TXT say 844; SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 10 Apr 879, Compiegne,Oise, France; 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve), COMYNI.GED (Compuserve); Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130; SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html ; Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130; HAWKINS.GED;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family ; Louis the Stammerer,son of Charles II, emperor of the West, was the king of France (r. 877-879). His succession was shared by his sons Carloman and Louis III - Encyclopedia, p. 491; King of Aquitaine, Caroling, King of France - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), 1144;King of West Franks, King of France, 877-879, Emperor of the West, 878-879; Adelaide was his 2nd wife - Royalty for Commoner s, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130 DATE 31 MAY 2000 EVEN TYPE Title (Facts Pg) PLAC Roi de France - le Begue K7179wt K7179wt Louis II, King de France (the Stammerer) (Andre Roux: Scrolls, 191.) (Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 130, Line 171-38.) (Paul, Nouveau Larousse Universel.) (Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 258.) (Andre Castelot, Histoire de La France, Tome 1, Page 387). AKA: Louis II, King d'Aquitaine. Also Known As: Louis "Le Begue". Born: in Nov 846 in Compiegne, Oise, Ile-de-France, France, son of Charles II, King de France and Ermentrude d'Orleans . Married in 862: Ansgarde de Bourgogne , daughter of Hardouin, Count de Bourgogne; She was given in marriage to Louis by her brother, Odon, often confused with Odon, Count of Troyes, an older man and one of Louis' detractors (Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 185). Note - between 867 and 879: Louis II was the King of Aquitaine from 867 to 879 and became King of France in 877, crowned at Compiegne by Hincmar, Archbishop of Rheims on 8 October. If the children and grandchildren of Charlemagne had an easy time ascending to the throne by virtue of their parentage, the same is not true for Louis. Louis had to be elected by the Greats - the nobles whose power had been growing steadily - and they conceded only after having received countships and additional powers. Moreover, Louis had to accept the tutelage of his maternal uncle, Hughes, Marquis of Neustria who also received the countship of Tours. He died 16 months later while making preparations to reprimand Bernard, Duke of Septimanie. Upon his death, nobles, looking to enhance their own power saw the kingdom partitioned between Louis III and Carloman, who were both crowned and anointed at Ferrieres in September 879 by Ansegis, Archbishop of Sens. Louis III's portion comprised Francia and Neustria, and Carloman ruled Burgundy, Aquitaine and Gothia. Married between 868 and 869: Adelaide=Adelheid de Paris, daughter of Adalhard, Count de Paris. Died: on 11 Apr 879 in France at age 32 Louis II died sooner than expected after having divided his kingdom between his two sons, Louis III and Carloman. To the older son went Francia and Neustria; and to the younger went Bourgogne, Aquitaine and the Marche of Spain. This creation of two kingdoms is highly disputed because the two sons are not viewed by some as legitimate because Charles le Chauve had not officially recognized Louis marriage to Ansgarde. Louis was not favored, and on 15 October 879, Provence and Bourgogne recognize Richilde's (Charles le Chauve's widow) brother, Bozon. Moreover, Louis, son of Louis le Germanique, also lays claim to the throne of France. Thus, to make matters rather complicated there exists three kings of France at this time. Name Suffix: Ancestral File Number: Source: lorenfamily.com Married ± 858 at ,,,France (approximately 21 years married) to: Ansgarde Princess Of Burgundy Born ± 844 at ,,Aix-La-Chappelle,Austrasia, died after Nov 2, 879, 1st married/ related to: N.N., 2nd marriage to: Louis II "The Stammerer" , King of France, 3rd married/ related to: N.N. Children: 1. Adelaide FranceBorn ± 856 at ,,,France !BIRTH-SPOUSE-CHILDREN: Ancestral File; ; The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, CD-ROM dated 21 Aug 1992, Information submitted by...; St George Regional Family History Center/FamilySearch Home Field Trial, searched Jan 1995; according to notes, Adelaide was a 'Princess of the Franks' I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this, So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun and wanting to know, but do not respond to the 'know it alls' , that dont have manners.I dont consider them Kin! Thanks and Happy Hunting! 2. Louis III King Of FranceBorn ± 863 at ,,,France, died Aug 5, 882 at St Denis,,France, approximately 19 years 3. Gisaele Princess Of FranceBorn ± 864 at ,,,France, died ± 895, approximately 31 years Sources: Nor, p59; Americans of Royal Descent, 1882; AF. Norr: Grisselle, 1st wife. Royal Descent and one AF record say she was the mother of WilliamLongsword. Other, later authorities say the mother was Poppa de Bayeux. Chart in "The Normans and Their Myth" (1976) by R.H.C. Davis calls herGisla, daughter of King Charles the Simple, not daughter of King Louis theStammerer. The vast majority of the information presented is obtained from online sources. While I believe it to be accurate, caution must be taken to always be careful of its validity. Please do contact me if you find errors or have questions. 4. Carloman King Of FranceBorn ± 866 at Of,,Aix-La-Chappelle,Austrasia, died Dec 6, 884, approximately 18 years, buried at Saint Denis,,France |
2nd marriage Louis II "The Stammerer" , King of France, son of Charles II "The Bald" King of France and Ermentrude Queen of Franks. Married 875 (3 or 4 years married) to: Adelaide France Queen of , Queen of, daughter of Beggen or Bego Paris and Alpaide Princess of France. Born ± 850 at Paris,Seine,France, died ± Nov 10, 901, approximately 51 years Name Suffix: Children: 1. Charles III "The Simple" King of FranceBorn Sep 17, 879 at ,France, died Oct 7, 929 at Peronne,Somme,France, 50 years, buried at St. Fursi,Peronne,Somme,France GEDCOM line 18882 not recognizable or too long: 1 NAME Charles III the Simple /of France/ GEDCOM line 18883 not recognizable or too long: () 2 GIVN Charles III the Simple GEDCOM line 18884 not recognizable or too long: () 2 SURN of France GEDCOM line 18885 not recognizable or too long: () 2 NSFX King of France deposed 923 Weis' "AR" (148:17) K7179wt 2. Ermentrude de FranceBorn 879 at France I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this, So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun and wanting to know, but do not respond to the 'know it alls' , that dont have manners.I dont consider them Kin! Thanks and Happy Hunting! 3. Kunigonde de FranceBorn 886 at I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this, So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun and wanting to know, but do not respond to the 'know it alls' , that dont have manners.I dont consider them Kin! Thanks and Happy Hunting! GEDCOM line 17996 not recognizable or too long: () 2 GIVN Cunigunde GEDCOM line 17997 not recognizable or too long: () 2 NSFX Princess W.Frank Weis' "Ancestral Roots" (143:17)(149:21) |