John, Sr. Patterson, son of John Patterson and Elizabeth. Born ± 1765 at York Co.,Clark's Fork of Bullocks Creek,SC (was Mecklenburg Co NC then)/Yor, died between 1840 and 1850 at Union Co.,Ga, 84 or 85 years, buried UNKNOWN at ?Fannin Co.,Ga (possibly in the Dunn-Patterson Cemetery on Deaver Road off Family tradition holds that there were about 5 or 6 (some have said 7) brothers who were Scots-Irish and came over from Northern Ireland in the mid 1700s or so. I have heard the stories say that they split up and went to different states. I suspect that they did as others did in those days in that over several years they migrated to probably western PA and they and/or their childrenwent in various directions, but not necessarily all at once. During the 1750s and 1760s (during the 7 years, French and Indian War) the western frontierof Pennsylvania and western Virginia became very dangerous to live in. Also,many of the Quakers and English colonists did not like the Scots-Irish and German immigrants coming to Pennsylvania in such massive numbers, so they started making life somewhat difficult for the Scots-Irish (Patterson, Kincaid, Byers, etc.) and German (Black) immigrants. As a result of these factors and others I'm sure, many pioneer families began moving south into Virginia, Northand South Carolina, and what is today northeastern Georgia. Our John Patterson was born about 1765-1767, and according to the 1880 Fannin Co., Ga census where his daughter Amey Jane Patterson Kincaid was listed, it shows that John was born in SC. According to data that I was given years ago by other Patterson researchers, Margaret Black was born about 1767 in SC. The 1850 Union Co., Ga census lists her as being born in SC about 1767 also. She was listedin that census twice. One time was in the household of her oldest son JosephPatterson, Sr., who was born in 1789, in SC. The other time was in the household of her second son John Patterson, Jr. who was born in 1798 in the Old Buncombe Co., NC. John Patterson (Sr) and Margaret Black were married about 1788 in the old Pendleton District of northwestern SC. Their oldest son was bornin 1789, as mentioned above. I don't know anything for sure about John's siblings or parents (see notes further down for additional comments on this subject). As for Margaret, I only have information on one sibling, a sister named Susannah Black, who married James Kincaid. The Kincaids were Scots-Irish, and had only come over from Northern Ireland in the 1750s or 1760s, I believe. There may or may not be any connection between the Kincaid and Patterson families. I believe more research should be done regarding the Kincaids and where they were at various stages of time, and the surrounding families that were with them. It's possible that John and Margaret's two "unknown" daughterswere Susannah (b. ca. 1795-1797 SC) who married William Jones, and Elizabeth Patterson (b. ca. 1790-1791 SC) who married James Morrow. Will continue toresearch these families. Another strong possibility is Isabella, who marrieda Price. This Isabella Price and her son Joseph Price are both buried at Bethlehem Cem. There is very strong evidence that points to the Robert Patterson family of old Craven Co., SC (York Co., SC) as to the ancestry of our John. This Robert Patterson was born about 1727, either in PA or in the Augusta Co., Va area. Robert's will was written in 1775 and he apparently died later that year in York Co., SC. According to that 1775 will, Robert's son Thomas (his oldest son) had a son named John. These families were in York county (old Craven county) by then. One of Thomas's sisters, Lydia Patterson, married a John Black. Another sister of Thomas's, Elizabeth Patterson, married Daniel Ponder (sometimes spelled Pounder). It's interesting to note several key facts about these families and our John Patterson who married Margaret Black: 1. The Blacks and Pattersons were obviously together in both cases. 2. These families of Robert Patterson have the same names as my John Patterson's family. 3. Many of Robert's children and grandchildren moved up into northwestern SC in the 1780s and 90s. My John Patterson was record Married 1788 at Pendleton District,SC (61 or 62 years married) to: Margaret Black, daughter of Joseph Black and Sarah Patterson. Born 1767 at York Co.,Clark's Fork of Bullocks Creek,SC (was Mecklenburg Co NC then)/Yor, died between 1850 and 1860 at Union Co.,Ga, 92 or 93 years, buried UNKNOWN at ?Fannin Co.,Ga (possibly in the Dunn-Patterson Cemetery on Deaver Road off Children: 1. Joseph Black, Sr. PattersonBorn 1789 at Pendleton Dist.,SC, died 1860 at Union County,GA, 70 or 71 years The 1820 Haywood Co., NC census records Joseph's household as follows: 1 male age 16-25 (Joseph was 31 in 1820 - is this the correct Joseph B. Patterson?) 4 males 0-9 (this would mean 5th son George couldn't have been born in 1819) 1 female 16-25 (I had Pollie Dunkin as about 30 years old in 1820, but thiswould make her 25 or less) 1 female 0-9 (I have seen records that have Joseph with two daughters b. 1811 and 1816. Was Sarah and Margaret both his daughters, or not?) Either this is not the correct Joseph Patterson, or it is and there are incorrect dates on some of the children in researchers' files, including mine. Wes Patterson, 8-14-2001 The 1830 Rabun Co., Ga census records this household: Joseph Patterson 1 2 3 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0(Joseph and 7 sons) 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (2nd wife Nancy Agnes Wilson and probably daughter Margaret "Peggy") Where's the 8th son, andthe 2nd daughter. Were there 8 sons and 2 daughters, or not? Is this the correct Joseph Patterson? Three households away was this Forister family, possibly the father of Gravet Forister? Amos Forister 2 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 I think it is a very likely possibility that Margaret Patterson that married Gravet Foster/Forrister was the daughter of Joseph Patterson, and Gravet may have been the son of Amos Forister. So who was Sarah Patterson that married William Carroll that many researchers have attributed to being Joseph's oldest child? 1834 Union Co., Ga census: Joseph Patterson 8 males 4 females - This would be Joseph and 7 of his 8 sons; and wife Nancy, daughter Peggy, not sure who the other 2 females were. The Sarah Patterson that has been attributed to being Joseph's daughter was born ca. 1811 and married William Carroll in 1830. The fact that the 1820 Haywood Co., NC census lists Joseph with only 1 daughter under 10 years old means that both Sarah and Peggy could NOT have been Joseph's daughters. Sarah was married in 1830, but Joseph still had one daughter age 15-19 in his household. That could have been either Sarah just before she married William Carroll, or Peggy. However, with the fact that in 1834 there is still more than one female in Joseph's household, and that Peggy did not getmarried until 1837, to me adds more credence to Peggy being the daughter recorded for Joseph in 1820, 1830, and in 1834. 1840 Union Co., Ga census: HH276. Joseph Patterson 00121001-0300001 - This would have been 4 of Joseph's 5 youngest sons, and then Nancy and their 3 daughters born to their marriage during the 1830s. Joseph's 3 oldest sons are heads of households in Union county also. The eighth son (not necessarily the youngest of the eight, though) was most likely the younger male in the household of John (and Margaret) Patterson, perhaps living with them to help them with household chores, etc. Considering all of the census records from 1820 to 1834, I still feel that Margaret "Peggy" Patterson (Foster) was the daughter of Joseph and Pollie Patterson, and that she was their only daughter. Wes Patterson, 9-04-2001 11-05-2002 Addendum: In light of the census records from 1820, 1830, 1834, and 1840 I believe that Peggy was the only daughter born to Joseph's first marriage, and I also believe that there were only seven sons, not eight. Robert Judson (John) Patterson does not fit the scenario of the family profile either, so I tend to believe that he was not Joseph's son. I will have to do more research on this to confirm this though. In 1820, JBP had 4 sons (0-9) and 1 daughter (0-9). They were Joseph Jr., William C., John, Lewis, and Peggy. In 1830, JBPhad 7 sons and 1 daughter, as follows: males: Joseph Jr. (15-19) WC, John, Lewis (10-14) George, Amos (5-9) Soloman (0-4) females: Peggy (15-19) In 1834, JBP had a total of 8 males and 4 females in 2. Daughter PattersonBorn ± 1791 at SC So, were there any Margarets living in Fannin or Union county, Ga in the 1850or 1860 census that had a different last name, but could qualify by age and other circumstantial evidence to be an individual worth considering as the 1791 daughter of John and Margaret Black Patterson? Here are some possibilities, whether "Margaret" or otherwise. In 1850, she should have been listed as approximately 59 years old, and therefore about 69 years old in 1860. Most likely, she would have been born in SC, although it's possible that NC was her birthplace (it's also possible that they wrote the wrong state down, too). 1850 Union Co., Ga Census: 949 GIPSON (Gibson) Harrison 54 NC Margaret 53 NC Lavina 20 NC Newton 17 NC Jasper 13 Marion 11 Judson 9 1860 Fannin Co., Ga Census: 191 THOMAS William F. 30 M FarmHand GA Mary A. 27 F Hskpr NC Minerva 10 F NC William J. 6 M NC John S. 4 M NC Margarett 1 F NC THOMAS, John 67 M Infirm SC Margarett 71 F Infirm NC 401 ROSE Samuel 65 M Farmer NC Margarett 69 F Hskpr NC Insane PATTERSON, Malinda 37 F Hskpr NC PATTERSON, Enoch 14 M NC Pauper Joseph 11 M GA Pauper William 9 M GA Pauper Peter 6 M GA Doctor A. 4 M GA 836 THOMSON James 71 M Farmer SC Elizabeth 69F Hskpr SC 746 JOHNSON Reuben P. 36 M FarmHand NC Sarah 32 F Hskpr NC Francis 5 F GA Georgia 8/12 F GA Malissa 75 F Hskpr NC 421 LEDFORD James 72 M Infirm NC Deaf Lidda 68 F Hskpr NC Martha 26 F Hskpr NC Margarett R. 4 F GA Sarah A. 7/12 F GA Obviously, there's much more to take into consideration than just these families, but I wanted tosift out these families and see if the elderly mother in each case could possibly be the daughter of John and Margaret Patterson. More later... Wes Patterson, 11-4-2000 **************************** One possibility is John and Mary Winters. This Mary was born ca. 1790 in SC Another possibility is Margrate Trout 12-1010001 of 1840 Union Co Ga. She doesn't seem to be in Union in 1850. 3. Amey Jane PattersonBorn Apr 3, 1793 at York Co.,Camden District,SC, died 1889 at Fannin Co.,Ga, 95 or 96 years, buried UNKNOWN at Old Antioch,Fannin Co.,Ga According to the 1880 Fannin Co., Ga census, Amey's father John Patterson wasborn in SC. See below: Census Place: Toccoah, Fannin, Georgia Source: FHLFilm 1254145 National Archives Film T9-0145 Page 689B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Martha KINCAID Self F S W 47 GA Occ:Keeps House Fa: SC Mo: SC Ama KINCAID Mother F W W 87 SC Fa: SC Mo: SC According to the 1860 Fannin Co., Ga census their daughter that was born in 1830 was born in NC so they should have been in NC somewhere then. 4. Daughter PattersonBorn between 1794 and 1797 at SC, died at Possibly died 1800-1810 in Buncombe Co NC In 1840, in Union Co., Ga., there was a William Jones family that was two households away from John and Margaret Patterson. WHO WAS THIS WILLIAM JONES, SR.? His son William Jr had several children by 1850, but one son was named John, and one daughter was named Margaret! It makes me wonder if William Jr's mother was a daughter of John and Margaret Black Patterson. John and Margaret P. had two daughters born in the 1790s for which I do not know their names or who they married. The original list I was given for names of their children did have "Margaret" as the oldest daughter who was born in 1791. In 1840 she would have been 49 years old. The other daughter of John and Margaret Patterson was born in 1795 or so and would have been around 45 years old. Well, the wife of William Jones Sr. was in the 40-49 age bracket in the 1840 census. This Jones family in 1840 was household 284). The Jones family in 1840 had 4 sons and 3 daughters, the oldest being a son age 15-20. That was most likely William Jr who was is listed in 1850 as 32, which would have put him with a birth year of 1818, well within the scope of being the child of either daughter of John and Margaret Patterson (the unknown daughters born in 1791 and 1795). Also, William Jr and his wife Nancy are listed in 1850 as having been born in NC, which DOES fit the Patterson migration pattern. They all were moving out of NC in the mid to late 1820s! So what does all of this mean? I'm not sure yet. There were several Jones families in Union Co., Ga in 1840 and 1850, including two William Joneses that were close to the same age (one of which was the William Sr. referred to above). However, it appears that the older of the two "older Williams" was the William Sr. that I've been referring to. Therefore, if my hypothesis is correct, this older William Jones would have been the son-in-law of John and Margaret Black Patterson. I believe it should be noted that this William Jones Sr. is still in Union Co., Ga in the 1850 census. He andhis wife (Susannah) are both listed as 53, which we all know can be correct or even a couple of years off in either direction. The fact that his wife's name is Susannah adds even MORE CREDENCE to the viewpoint that James and Susannah Jones were the son-in-law and daughter of John and Margaret Patterson. Why? The way this particular family of this generation of Pattersons named their children after their own brothers and sisters and parents is a very strong hint. Yes, most families back then did this, but the point is that SusannahJones very well could have been the daughter of John and Margaret Black Patterson because Margaret Black Patterson had a sister who was very close to them all named Susannah Black (married James Kincaid). It's still too early for me to be convinced 100% that this family shapes up this way. However, I will continue to pursue the truth. Is this Jones family directly related to the Pattersons and Blacks by virtue of this Susannah Jones (listed as 53 in the 1850 census)? I seek the truth, not a twisted web of "I think this is who theywere". More later.... Wes Patterson, 11-7-2000 ---------------------------- Another strong possibility for the identity of this daughter was an IsabellaPrice listed in the 1840 Union Co., Ga census. She was right next to John and Margaret, and was born about 1792, in NC, though. She was still in Union in1850 and 1860. Her son Josephus Price was born about 1819 in NC. He was in Union in 1870 and 1880. In 1880 he's right next to Nancy E. Patterson Dillard(either Josephus or Josephine - check the original census to be sure), whichwould have been his 1st cousin, IF Josephus Price WAS a grandson of John Patterson. Wes Patterson, 9-04-2001 Also, don't forget Elizabeth Morrow of 1850 Union (James Morrow of 1840 Union, two househol 5. John, Jr. PattersonBorn ± 1798 at Buncombe Co.,NC, died Apr 8, 1854 at Fannin Co.,Ga, approximately 56 years Keith Townsen gave me his lineage on 1-10-98. He descends from John and Sallie Hicks Patterson. His email address at that time was: DTown33905@aol.com Keith does a great deal of research regarding the Union Co., GA Pattersons and allied lines. He has documented much of this on the internet as well. Thanks, Keith. The info from George Dallas Patterson forward to Keith, is the bulk ofwhat I took from Keith's data. Prior to that, I had already found through myown research. Thanks for the confirmation, Keith. Wes Patterson 7-30-98 *************** John was recorded in Rabun Co., Ga in 1830 with his wife, his sister-in-law and two daughters and two sons. Wes Patterson, 8-14-2001 6. George PattersonBorn 1800 at ,Buncombe, North Carolina, died Nov 1866 at ,Union,Georgia, 65 or 66 years. Occupation: at George was a "hatter" by trade,according to the Union Co.,Ga Historical Soc; According to the 1834 Union Co., Ga census, there were 4 males and 3 females in their household. All 4 of George and Rebecca's parents were still alive, so this most likely was all children, as far as I can tell. I believe there was another daughter born between 1826 and 1829 that we don't know about. She must have died by 1840. Just keep in mind that Rebecca's parents were divorced. In 1830 George and Rebecca were in Rabun Co., Ga, and there was another household close by listed as Hannah Chastain, and yet another one as Elijah Chastain. These two Chastains in 1830 were Rebecca's mother and brother, respectively. Hannah and Elijah Chastain were not in Union Co., Ga in 1834 as I can tell. WP, 2001 7. Robert PattersonBorn between 1800 and 1801 at Buncombe Co.,NC, died between 1820 and 1822 at Possibly in Rabun Co Ga My strongest hunch is that Robert had died by 1820, based on the census records. Whether he was ever old enough to have married before his death, I don't know at this time. I used to have Robert listed as the youngest child. That'swhat I was given by my family members years ago, and I had never been able to reconcile that Robert was the oldest child as some have listed in their files for this family. So, I had always left Robert as the youngest, and assumedthat he was born about 1804 - 1805. And therefore, since he isn't found on the 1820 census, he must have died, and he would have been too young to be married. UNLESS..... Thanks once again to Marty Grant and his census analysis. Marty sent me some information in January 1997. I was just reading it again today (July 25, 2002) and I am having to back peddle on this Robert. Marty has Robert as being one of the "3" sons in 1810 in the 10-16 age bracket, and Amos being the youngest son. Clearly, Amos WAS too young to be anywhere close to 10 years old. Just now I have changed my birth years on Robert and Amos based on this and some other pieces of evidence. I have now listed Robert as born ca. 1800-1801, and Amos as 1803-1804. 8. Ann (Anna) PattersonBorn Oct 1802 at Buncombe Co.,NC, died 1803, 0 or 1 years I believe she is with her nephew and his family in Catoosa Co., Ga in the 1860 census. She did later return to Union or Fannin Co., Ga though. 9. Amos PattersonBorn between 1803 and 1804 at Buncombe Co.,NC, died after 1860 at Possibly in Tx (Rusk,Shelby,or Panola county?) In previous years I was told that Amos and Elizabeth Wilson Patterson had 4 sons, Silas Kimsey, Lumpkin, John Joseph, and William L. I do not believe thatSilas Kimsey Patterson was their son, however. He was born in 1828-1829 by all accounts, and Amos and Elizabeth were not married until September of 1829.I have not yet found Amos in the 1830 census, but we do have a record of himin Union Co., Ga in 1834. In that census he is listed with 5 males and 2 females. This count can be confusing, but coupled with the 1840 Union census (41. Amos Patterson 020001-210001), a few issues can be cleared up, or at least ruled out. Based on the 1840 Union census (2 sons), the 1850 Gilmer Co Ga census (2 sons), and the 1860 Rusk Co Tx census (2 sons, Lumpkin and J.J.), I believe that Amos and Elizabeth only had 2 sons, William Lumpkin Patterson and John Joseph Patterson. But there were two more males in 1834 in Amos's house, so who were they? One theory I have is that one of the other males in 1834could have been Amos's father, John Patterson. John has not yet been found in the 1830 census (same as Amos), and he (John) is also not found in 1834 in Union, but the rest of John's family is there. I believe it's a strong possibility that John and Margaret Black Patterson (Amos's parents) were living with him in 1834, and quite possibly in 1830, wherever they were. I'm not yet sure who the 5th male was, perhaps another son of Amos, unknown to us, who diedbefore 1840, or even a nephew of Amos, or yet perhaps a male of their familyfrom the Wilson side of the family? Here is the 1860 census record: CENSUSYR: 1860 STATE or TERRITORY: TX COUNTY: Rusk REEL NO: M653-1304 PAGENO: 304A ========================================================================== ============================ LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. REAL VAL. PERS VAL. BIRTHPLACE REMARKS ========================================================================== ============================ 16 1447 1465 PATTERSON Amos 51 M W farmer 3,000 550 NC . 17 1447 1465 PATTERSON Parmelia (A. MORRIS) 40 F W . . . AL (m. 12 Sept. 1858) 18 1447 1465 PATTERSON Lumpkin 30 M W f laborer 300 . GA . 19 1447 1465 PATTERSON J. J. 25 M W . 150. GA . 20 1447 1465 PATTERSON Margaret 22 F W . . . GA . 21 1447 1465 PATTERSON Nancy 20 F W . . . GA . 22 1447 1465 MORRIS Eliza 10F W . . . GA . 23 1447 1465 MORRIS Martha 8 F W . . . TX . Amos's nephew, SK Patterson and his family was in the household just before Amos. Amos was closer to 56 or 57 years old, instead of just 51. It seems that Parmelia was married to a Morris apparently, and perhaps these two younger children were hers by her first marriage(?). Lumpkin had already been married, but his wife and infant child both died in 1857. He and J.J. both married in the mid 1860's. Lumpkin was William Lumpkin Patterson, and based on this record, he was the older of the two brothers. There were two females in Amos's household in 1834. We can assume one was his wife Elizabeth. Their oldest daughter Mary Margaret was born about 1835 according to most accounts. The 1840 census lists Mary in the 5-9 age group so she could have been older. It is a possibility that she was born early enough to havebeen counted in this 1834 census, but I find it more unlikely than likely. That census was completed by March of 1834 - ear |