man Gerrard Jarrett "Gerrard Menefee" Menefee‏‎, son of William Possible "William or John Menefee" Menifee and N.N.‏. Adoption parents: N.N. and N.N.
Born ‎ 1721 at VA. AKA [Jarrett], died ‎ Mar 3, 1811 at Lincoln, Kentucky‎, 89 or 90 years
buried in Old Whitley Cemetery near Stanford, KY

Posted by: Elizabeth Ussery (ID *****4546) Date: June 04, 2004 at 18:59:05
In Reply to: Menefee/Southerland and family by Kelly O'Hanrahan of 778


Hi Kelly - I am a descendant of James Menefee, son of Gerrard, who are both buried in the Whitley Cemetery, which is in Lincoln Co., Ky. Now, although I cannot prove it, I believe that since Nancy Menefee (daughter of Gerrard and sister to James)married an Elmore she is NOT the Nancy buried in the Whitley cemetery. I believe it was Nancy Menefee who was married to James (Gerrard's son).

About a year ago I had been searching for Nancy's (James' wife) last name - it has been listed as Hulch or Hatch on all information I could find. However, there were no records of Hulch or Hatch families in the Lincoln Co. area at the time and I had found where the marriage bond listed William Hu... (this name was read as Hulch or Hatch) was her father and the bond was witnessed by a John Hu... I was contacted by a Hurst researcher who told me that a William Hurst died in Tennessee in 1818 and listed in his will as an heir one James Manifee. This William apparently had had a daughter named Nancy -- Nancy Menefee (James' wife) had already died which would have explained James being listed as an heir in William Hurst's will. With this information, I believe strongly that James' wife was Nancy Hurst, daughter of William Hurst, Jr., son of William "Brindle Bill" Hurst and Judith Caffey and that she's the Nancy buried with James in the Whitley cemetery

Also, because of some of the above information, Now, I believe that the suggestion that James and Nancy were twins probably came about because of an error on the headstones of James and his wife, Nancy.

Hope this doesn't muddy the waters too much but thought I would throw it out there..


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Posted by: Kelly O'Hanrahan (ID *****4524) Date: May 30, 2004 at 11:04:
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I have read quite a bit this morning and have straightened out my family line, wtih much appreciation to those who have participated on this site and have spent countless hours discerning the true family lines. First, I need to verify what my understanding of the family line and then I need some additional assistance.

1) It is my understanding that Gerrard Menefee b. 1721 in Montgomery Co., VA and d. 7 Mar 1811 in Lincoln Co., KY. Gerrard was married to Agnes Sutherland (b.1723 VA/d. 1822 Lincoln Co., KY). There were part of the "4 brothers who settled in the Tappahanock River Valley, etc. Of their children, Nancy A. Menifee [a twin b. 3 jan 1766 in VA/d. 30 Aug. 1817) did marry John Elmore. They were married by William Owsley per a document located in Lincoln Co., Ky signed on June 15, 1802, but the license was lost. Although I have that Nancy and her father Gerrard were died in what became Lincoln Co., KY, there were both buried in Old Whitley Cemetery near Stanford, KY.

Is the Stanford area or Whitely Cemetery part of Lincoln Co., Kentucky?

2) Going backwards, I have a marriage date of 1750 for Gerrard and Angnes Suhterland. Place would be VA. Does anyone have anything more specific?

3) Now the fun begins:

I think I am missing a generation in the beginning below and will be lucky if any of this material actually links up correction. HELP! :)

Gerrard's father is either William, John or George. b. 1689 in Westmoreland or Fanklin Co., Colony of VA. He married to ?? 1708-1740 place unknown and d. 1724-1780 in VA.

The person above's father was a William b. 9 Mar 1636 in VA and also married ??? 1658-1690 place unknown and d. 1690-1731, place unknown.

William's father was George II, b. 1622, place unknown, who married Mary Potts [or is it Pott] around 1634-1644, place unknown. He died 1645 in Jamestown, James City Co., Colony of VA. Information pertaining to his wife, Mary is b. 1599-1627, place unknown and d. aft. 28 Nov 1705 in VA.

Geroge II's father was George b. 1571-1600 in England. He married a Mary ??? 1597-1640, place unknown and d. 1625-1685 possibly by James River, Westover Estate, Charles City, VA. His wife Mary was b. 1580-1603 in England and d. 1625-1691 place unkown.

Thanks to anyone who responds!


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buried in Old Whitley Cemetery near Stanford, KY

Married ‎± 1749 at Virginia (approximately 62 years married) to:

woman Agnes Sutherland‏‎
Born ‎ 1727 at may be spelled Southerlin, died ‎ 1822 at Lincoln Co., KY‎, 94 or 95 years

Children:

1.
man William Menefee‏
Born ‎ Sep 5, 1750 at Tennessee---see notes, died ‎ Mar 7, 1811 at came to Giles Co. TN @@ 1808, d Giles Co.‎, 60 years
It is through this family that most of the Menefee's in Southern TN and north Alabama descend. info from B.C. Segui It is through this family that most of the Menefee's in southern TN and north Alabama descend. info from B.C. Segui
2.
man Jarred [Gerrard Jarret] Jr. Menefee‏
Born ‎± 1751 at ---------See notes, died ‎ 1835 at Fayette Co., KY.‎, approximately 84 years
"Garrett " Menefee listed as a Rev War soldier for Lincoln Co. KY, http://www.logansfort.ord/soldiers/html

Mary, John, James & Nimrod have to be second marriage."Garrett " Menefee listed as a Rev War soldier for Lincoln Co. KY, http://www.logansfort.ord/soldiers/html
3.
man Jonas N. Menefee‏
Born ‎± 1753 at ===========See notes, died ‎± 1824‎, approximately 71 years
A Jonas [Menefee] Manifey was with Col. GRC, in Captain Worthington's Company from July 27, 1778 to May 6, 1779; assuming he must have been 20 years old, born 1758 or earlier, it fits only Gerrard Jarrett's Jonas.

Nothing of this is mentioned in Elizabeth Hindsdale's material [Walton, KY.]. The first reference to Jonas is 1780 in N.C. This is not neccesarily the same Jonas. How many Jonas's were there during this time frame? So far this is the one who fits.

Reference:
Valerie Menefee
P.O.Box 664
Brentwood, Tenn. 37024
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Jonas Menefee listed as Rev War soldier along with a James and a Garrett in the Lincoln Co. KY records. Wounded in battle.
http://www,logansfort.org/soldiers.htmlA Jonas [Menefee] Manifey was with Col. GRC, in Captain Worthington's Company from July 27, 1778 to May 6, 1779; assuming he must have been 20 years old, born 1758 or earlier, it fits only Gerrard Jarrett's Jonas.

Nothing of this is mentioned in Elizabeth Hindsdale's material [Walton, KY.]. The first reference to Jonas is 1780 in N.C. This is not neccesarily the same Jonas. How many Jonas's were there during this time frame? So far this is the one who fits.

Reference:
Valerie Menefee
P.O.Box 664
Brentwood, Tenn. 37024
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Jonas Menefee listed as Rev War soldier along with a James and a Garrett in the Lincoln Co. KY records. Wounded in battle.
http://www,logansfort.org/soldiers.html
4.
man Rueben Menefee‏
Born ‎ 1758, died ‎between 1810 and 1850‎, 91 or 92 years
5.
woman Rhoda Menefee‏
Born ‎± 1760 at Wayne, Kentucky, died ‎ Jul 21, 1850 at Hampshire, Mineral, West Virginia‎, approximately 90 years
6.
man Nimrod Menefee‏
Born ‎ 1765 at VA, died ‎± 1817‎, approximately 52 years
7.
man James Menefee‏
Born ‎ Jan 3, 1766 at twin to Nancy see notes, died ‎ Apr 18, 1849 at Probably buried Old Whitely Cemetery near father‎, 83 years
a James Menefee was recorded as a Rev War vet from Lincoln Co. KY, with a will recorded there also.
He would have been very young to be a veteran, but not impossible toward the latter years. he is the only James I have recorded who was around at that time, and was a brother to Jonas [wounded 7-25-1777] and Jarred, Jarrard, Garrett etc.

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From: Elizabeth Ussery
To: glennainglis@msn.com
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 12:05 PM
Subject: Menefee's


Hi Glenna - haven't talked with you in quite some time but have new information on James Menefee's wife, Nancy. I noticed that you still had Hulch (Hatch) on your information. I have recently answered a query on Genforum - here's the info in case you haven't read it.

I am a descendant of James Menefee, son of Gerrard, who are both buried in the Whitley Cemetery, which is in Lincoln Co., Ky. Now, although I cannot prove it, I believe that since Nancy Menefee (daughter of Gerrard and sister to James)married an Elmore she is NOT the Nancy buried in the Whitley cemetery. I believe it was Nancy Menefee who was married to James (Gerrard's son).

About a year ago I had been searching for Nancy's (James' wife) last name - it has been listed as Hulch or Hatch on all information I could find. However, there were no records of Hulch or Hatch families in the Lincoln Co. area at the time and I had found where the marriage bond listed William Hu... (this name was read as Hulch or Hatch) was her father and the bond was witnessed by a John Hu... I was contacted by a Hurst researcher who told me that a William Hurst died in Tennessee in 1818 and listed in his will as an heir one James Manifee. This William apparently had a daughter named Nancy and a son named John - Nancy Menefee (James' wife) had already died which would explain James being listed as an heir in William Hurst's will. With this information, I believe strongly that James' wife was Nancy Hurst, daughter of William Hurst, Jr., son of William "Brindle Bill" Hurst and Judith Caffey and that she's the Nancy buried with James in the Whitley cemetery

Also, because of some of the above information, I believe that the suggestion that James and Nancy were twins probably came about because of an error on the headstones of James and his wife, Nancy.

I've been meaning to e-mail you but haven't done a lot of research lately and just hadn't gotten around to it 'till now. Hope you are doing well.

a James Menefee was recorded as a Rev War vet from Lincoln Co. KY, with a will recorded there also.
He would have been very young to be a veteran, but not impossible toward the latter years. he is the only James I have recorded who was around at that time, and was a brother to Jonas [wounded 7-25-1777] and Jarred, Jarrard, Garrett etc.

http://www.logansfort.org/soldiers.html
8.
woman Nancy A Menefee‏
Born ‎ Jan 3, 1766 at twin to James --------Sue Eagle Sparkman gives year as1776, died ‎ Aug 30, 1817 at buried Old Whitley Cemetery near Stanford, KY‎, 51 years
buried Old Whitley Cemetery near Stanford, KY., next to father

Barbara J. Matthews blair@earthlink.net 2002-07-14 20:47:23
Nancy Menefee certainly did marry and had many descendents. She married John Elmore. They had nine children, one of which, Alcie Elmore married Moses D. Moore II and lived outside London, Laurel, KY for much of their married lives. They too had many descendents, of which I am one. Whoever wrote the source which shows her as a spinster, is completely incorrect. By the way the cemetery she is buried in is now in Laurel Co., although Lincoln was earlier the name of the county that the cemetery was in. buried Old Whitley Cemetery near Stanford, KY., next to father