 Saher IV De+ Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester, son of Robert De+ Quincy and Orbella De+ "Orbillus De Leuchars" Leuchars.Born 1155 at Winchester, Hampshire, England, died Nov 3, 1219 at Damietta, on the way to the Holy Land, Palestine, 63 or 64 years, buried at Acre, Palestine Witness of Magna Carta SOURCES: LDS Family History Library Ancestral File (familysearch.org) WEB: "Ancestors/Descendants of Royal Lines" (Contributors: F. L. Jacquier (History of Charlemagne by Christian Settipani); L. Orlandini, Manuel Abranches de Soveral, Reynaud de Paysac, F.L. J P de Palmas (Aurejac et Tournemire; Frankish line; The Complete Peerage}, Jacquier (Genealogy of Lewis Carroll, Justin Swanstrom, The Royal Families of England Scotland & Wales by Burkes Peerage; Debrett's Peerage & Baronage; Table of descendants French Canadian Genealogical Society; Families of Monfort-sur-Risle & Bertrand de Bricquebec; The Dukes of Normandy, XXXXI), A. Brabant ("Dynastie Montmorency, Michel d'Herbigny), Paul Leportier, Claude Barret, H.R. Moser (Burke Peerage), O.Guionneau, L.B. de Rouge, E. Polti, N. Danican (Britain's Royal Families; Buthlaw, Succession of Strathclyde, the Armorial 1961-62) A.Terlinden (Genealogy of the existing British Peerage, 1842), L. Gustavsson, C. Cheneaux, E. Lodge, S. Bontron (Brian Tompsett), R. Dewkinandan, H. de la Villarmois, C. Donadello; Scevole de Livonniere, H. de la Villarmois, I. Flatmoen, P. Ract Madoux (History of Morhange; Leon Maujean; Annuaire de Lorraine, 1926; La Galissonniere: Elections d'Arques et Rouen), Jean de Villoutreys (ref: Georges Poull), E. Wilkerson-Theaux (Laura Little), O. Auffray, A. Brabant (Genealogy of Chauvigny of Blot from "Chanoine Prevost Archiviste du Diocese de Troyes Union Typographique Domois Cote-d'Or 1925), Emmanuel Arminjon (E Levi-Provencal Histoire de l'Espagne Andalouse), Y. Gazagnes-Gazanhe, R. Sekulovich and J.P. de Palmas ("notes pierfit et iconographie Insecula", Tournemire), H de Riberolles (Base Tournemire), Franck Veillon; ,(Histoire Généalogique de la Maison de Hornes, Bruxelles 1848; Notice Historique Sur L'Ancien Comté de Hornes, Gand 1850; Europäische Stammtafeln, Marburg 1978); E.Driant / "La Maison de Damas" par Hubert Lamant, 1977 (Bibliothèque municipale d'Eaubonne) ........... http://geneastar.org. (Shows Saier as son rather than grandson of Saier and Maud de Saint LIz.) AWTP: "Neuman-Smith-Goodale Family and Ancestors" Michael R. Neuman michaelneuman@earthlink.net "Stimpson Family" Cory Stimpson cbstimpson@hotmail.com Married ± 1174 at England (approximately 45 years married) to:  Margaret De+ "Margaret Fitzpernel" Beaumont-Le-Roger, daughter of Robert III De+ "Robert de Meullent" Beaumont-Le-Roger, 3rd Earl Leicester and Peronelle De+ "Petronilla de Grentemesnil" Grandmesnil.Born ± 1159 at Hampshire, England, died Jan 12, 1236, approximately 77 years, buried at Brackley, Northamptonshire, England SOURCES: LDS Family History Library Ancestral File 1VK-6F, "Descendants of Saher Quinci" at http://www.geneastar.org, "Neuman-Smith-Goodale Family and Ancestors" Michael R. Neuman michaelneuman@earthlink.net, and "Stimpson Family" Cory Stimpson cbstimpson@hotmail.com. Children: 1. Loretta De QuincyBorn 1176 at Winchester, Hampshire, England SOURCES: LDS FHL AF91VK-7L (familysearch.org) AWTP: "Strange & Kare Family Trees" Joseph H Kare Jr jockare@hotmail.com "Our Kingdom Come" Eileen McKinnon-Suggs suggs16@msn.com 2. Robert De+ QuincyBorn ± 1180 at Winchester, Hampshire, England, died 1257, approximately 77 years, buried at Hospitallers, Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England SOURCES: LDS Family History Library, ancestral file 1SM-NW (familysearch.org) "Ancestors/Descendants of Royal Lines" (Contributors: F. L. Jacquier (History of Charlemagne by Christian Settipani); L. Orlandini, Manuel Abranches de Soveral, Reynaud de Paysac, F.L. J P de Palmas (Aurejac et Tournemire; Frankish line; The Complete Peerage}, Jacquier (Genealogy of Lewis Carroll, Justin Swanstrom, The Royal Families of England Scotland & Wales by Burkes Peerage; Debrett's Peerage & Baronage; Table of descendants French Canadian Genealogical Society; Families of Monfort-sur-Risle & Bertrand de Bricquebec; The Dukes of Normandy, XXXXI), A. Brabant ("Dynastie Montmorency, Michel d'Herbigny), Paul Leportier, Claude Barret, H.R. Moser (Burke Peerage), O.Guionneau, L.B. de Rouge, E. Polti, N. Danican (Britain's Royal Families; Buthlaw, Succession of Strathclyde, the Armorial 1961-62) A.Terlinden (Genealogy of the existing British Peerage, 1842), L. Gustavsson, C. Cheneaux, E. Lodge, S. Bontron (Brian Tompsett), R. Dewkinandan, H. de la Villarmois, C. Donadello; Scevole de Livonniere, H. de la Villarmois, I. Flatmoen, P. Ract Madoux (History of Morhange; Leon Maujean; Annuaire de Lorraine, 1926; La Galissonniere: Elections d'Arques et Rouen), Jean de Villoutreys (ref: Georges Poull), E. Wilkerson-Theaux (Laura Little), O. Auffray, A. Brabant (Genealogy of Chauvigny of Blot from "Chanoine Prevost Archiviste du Diocese de Troyes Union Typographique Domois Cote-d'Or 1925), Emmanuel Arminjon (E Levi-Provencal Histoire de l'Espagne Andalouse), Y. Gazagnes-Gazanhe, R. Sekulovich and J.P. de Palmas ("notes pierfit et iconographie Insecula", Tournemire), H de Riberolles (Base Tournemire), Franck Veillon; ,(Histoire Généalogique de la Maison de Hornes, Bruxelles 1848; Notice Historique Sur L'Ancien Comté de Hornes, Gand 1850; Europäische Stammtafeln, Marburg 1978); E.Driant / "La Maison de Damas" par Hubert Lamant, 1977 (Bibliothèque municipale d'Eaubonne) ........... http://geneastar.org. AWTP: "Ballard-Willis Family Tree" mwballard52@yahoo.com "Stimpson Family" Cory Stimpson cbstimpson@hotmail.com 3. Roger De+ Quincy, 2nd Earl of WinchesterBorn ± 1184 at Winchester, Hampshire, England, died Apr 25, 1264 at England, approximately 80 years, buried at Brackley, Aberdeenshire, England. Occupation: at Constable of Scotland; SOURCES: LDS FHL Ancestal File 9T9Q-8C (familysearch.org) WEB: "Ancestors/Descendants of Royal Lines" (Contributors: F. L. Jacquier (History of Charlemagne by Christian Settipani); L. Orlandini, Manuel Abranches de Soveral, Reynaud de Paysac, F.L. J P de Palmas (Aurejac et Tournemire; Frankish line; The Complete Peerage}, Jacquier (Genealogy of Lewis Carroll, Justin Swanstrom, The Royal Families of England Scotland & Wales by Burkes Peerage; Debrett's Peerage & Baronage; Table of descendants French Canadian Genealogical Society; Families of Monfort-sur-Risle & Bertrand de Bricquebec; The Dukes of Normandy, XXXXI), A. Brabant ("Dynastie Montmorency, Michel d'Herbigny), Paul Leportier, Claude Barret, H.R. Moser (Burke Peerage), O.Guionneau, L.B. de Rouge, E. Polti, N. Danican (Britain's Royal Families; Buthlaw, Succession of Strathclyde, the Armorial 1961-62) A.Terlinden (Genealogy of the existing British Peerage, 1842), L. Gustavsson, C. Cheneaux, E. Lodge, S. Bontron (Brian Tompsett), R. Dewkinandan, H. de la Villarmois, C. Donadello; Scevole de Livonniere, H. de la Villarmois, I. Flatmoen, P. Ract Madoux (History of Morhange; Leon Maujean; Annuaire de Lorraine, 1926; La Galissonniere: Elections d'Arques et Rouen), Jean de Villoutreys (ref: Georges Poull), E. Wilkerson-Theaux (Laura Little), O. Auffray, A. Brabant (Genealogy of Chauvigny of Blot from "Chanoine Prevost Archiviste du Diocese de Troyes Union Typographique Domois Cote-d'Or 1925), Emmanuel Arminjon (E Levi-Provencal Histoire de l'Espagne Andalouse), Y. Gazagnes-Gazanhe, R. Sekulovich and J.P. de Palmas ("notes pierfit et iconographie Insecula", Tournemire), H de Riberolles (Base Tournemire), Franck Veillon........... http://geneastar.org. "Ancestors/Descendants of Roger Wentworth", http://www.geneastar.org "Ancestors/Descendants of William Ferrers" http://www.geneastar.org. AWTP: "The Ancestry of Overmire Tifft Richardson Bradford Reed" Larry Overmire larryover@worldnet.att.net 4. Hawise De+ QuincyBorn ± 1198 at Winchester, Hampshire, England, died after Feb 3, 1263 at Hedingham Castle, Essex, England SOURCES: LDS Family History Library, Ancestral File Q7P-DG (familysearch.org) AWTP: "Stimpson Family", Cory Stimpson at AWTP cbstimpson@hotmail.com. "The Ancestry of Overmire Tifft Richardson Bradford Reed" Larry Overmire larryover@worldnet.att.net 5. Arabella De+ QuincyBorn ± 1198 at Winchester, Hampshire, England, died after 1258 SOURCES: LDS Family History Library, Ancestral File 1VK-B4 (familysearch.org) WEB: "Ancestors/Descendants of Royal Lines" (Contributors: F. L. Jacquier (History of Charlemagne by Christian Settipani); L. Orlandini, Manuel Abranches de Soveral, Reynaud de Paysac, F.L. J P de Palmas (Aurejac et Tournemire; Frankish line; The Complete Peerage}, Jacquier (Genealogy of Lewis Carroll, Justin Swanstrom, The Royal Families of England Scotland & Wales by Burkes Peerage; Debrett's Peerage & Baronage; Table of descendants French Canadian Genealogical Society; Families of Monfort-sur-Risle & Bertrand de Bricquebec; The Dukes of Normandy, XXXXI), A. Brabant ("Dynastie Montmorency, Michel d'Herbigny), Paul Leportier, Claude Barret, H.R. Moser (Burke Peerage), O.Guionneau, L.B. de Rouge, E. Polti, N. Danican (Britain's Royal Families; Buthlaw, Succession of Strathclyde, the Armorial 1961-62) A.Terlinden (Genealogy of the existing British Peerage, 1842), L. Gustavsson, C. Cheneaux, E. Lodge, S. Bontron (Brian Tompsett), R. Dewkinandan, H. de la Villarmois, C. Donadello; Scevole de Livonniere, H. de la Villarmois, I. Flatmoen, P. Ract Madoux (History of Morhange; Leon Maujean; Annuaire de Lorraine, 1926; La Galissonniere: Elections d'Arques et Rouen), Jean de Villoutreys (ref: Georges Poull), E. Wilkerson-Theaux (Laura Little), O. Auffray, A. Brabant (Genealogy of Chauvigny of Blot from "Chanoine Prevost Archiviste du Diocese de Troyes Union Typographique Domois Cote-d'Or 1925), Emmanuel Arminjon (E Levi-Provencal Histoire de l'Espagne Andalouse), Y. Gazagnes-Gazanhe, R. Sekulovich and J.P. de Palmas ("notes pierfit et iconographie Insecula", Tournemire), H de Riberolles (Base Tournemire), Franck Veillon........... http://geneastar.org. AWTP: "Neuman-Smith-Goodale Family and Ancestors" Michael R. Neuman michaelneuman@earthlink.net "The Ancestry Of Overmire Tifft Richardson Bradford Reed" Larry Overmire larryover@worldnet.att.net. "Stimpson Family", Cory Stimpson at AWTP cbstimpson@hotmail.com. | |||