de Say, Hugh 1a

Birth Name de Say, Hugh
Gender male
Age at Death unknown

Narrative

HUGH DE SAY, son and heir [of Hugh by Lucy de Clifford]. He was keeper of Norton Castle, in what is now co. Radnor, and fought under Richard I in Normandy in 1194. In 1195 he was in charge of the castle of Bleddfa in the March, now co. Radnor. In 1196 he and Roger de Mortimer of Wigmore were defeated near Radnor by the Welsh prince Rhys.

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He married Mabel, daughter of Robert MARMION. He was assessed to the third scutage of the army in Normandy in 1196, and seems to have been living in the early part of 1197, but died s.p.m., before Michaelmas that year. His widow Mabel by Easter 1201 was married to Reynold [---]. She was dead before Michaelmas 1210. Complete Peerage IX:258

 

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth 1168 Richard’s Castle, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England   2
Death        

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father de Say, Hugh11361190
Mother de Clifford, Lucia1141
         de Say, Hugh 1168
    Sister     de Say, Lucia

Families

Family of de Say, Hugh and Marmion, Mabel
Unknown Partner Marmion, Mabel ( * 1169 + 1210-09-00 )
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
de Say, Margaret11881242-10-00
de Say, Hugh FitzHugh1197

Source References

  1. Holly Forrest Tamer: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=stolp&id=I856 Stolp Line
      • Source text:

        ID: I856
        Name: @*Hugh de Say
        Sex: M
        Birth: ABT 1168 in Richard's Castle, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England
        Note:
        HUGH DE SAY, son and heir [of Hugh by Lucy de Clifford]. He was keeper of Norton Castle, in what is now co. Radnor, and fought under Richard I in Normandy in 1194. In 1195 he was in charge of the castle of Bleddfa in the March, now co. Radnor.
        In 1196 he and Roger de Mortimer of Wigmore were defeated near Radnor by the Welsh prince Rhys.
        Note:
        Note:
        He married Mabel, daughter of Robert MARMION. He was assessed to the third scutage of the army in Normandy in 1196, and seems to have been living in the early part of 1197, but died s.p.m., before Michaelmas that year. His widow Mabel by Easter
        1201 was married to Reynold [---]. She was dead before Michaelmas 1210. Complete Peerage IX:258
        Change Date: 29 SEP 2006

        Father: @*Hugh de Say b: ABT 1136 in Richard Castle,Herefordshire,England
        Mother: @*Lucia de Clifford b: ABT 1141 in Clifford Castle,Herefordshire,England

        Marriage 1 @*Mabel Marmion b: ABT 1169 in Tamworth Castle, Warwickshire, England
        Children
        @Hugh FitzHugh de Say b: 1197 in Richard's Castle, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England
        @*Margaret de Say b: ABT 1188 in Richard's Castle, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England

         

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