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1. de Montgomery, Walter
   1. 1. de Montgomery, William
      2. de Montgomery, Edward
      3. de Montgomery, Margaret
      4. de Montgomery, Walter

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Source References

1. Susan Johanson: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=johanson&id=I66830 Johanson Family Tree-Roots spreading from Sweden, Medieval England, Massachusetts, and South Carolina
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        # ID: I66830
        # Name: Walter de MONTGOMERY 1
        # Sex: M
        # Title: Sir
        # Birth: ABT 1265 in Cubley, Derbyshire, England
        # Death: AFT 06 DEC 1323

         

         

        Father: William MONTGOMERY b: ABT 1240 in Cubley, Derbyshire, England

        Marriage 1 Unknown First WIFE b: ABT 1367 in Derbyshire, England

        Children

        1. Has Children William de MONTGOMERY b: ABT 1290 in Cubley, Derbyshire, England
        2. Has No Children Edward de Montgomery b: ABT 1293 in Cubley, Derbyshire, England
        3. Has No Children Margaret de Montgomery b: ABT 1295 in Cubley, Derbyshire, England
        4. Has No Children Walter de Montgomery b: ABT 1298 in Cubley, Derbyshire, England

         

        Sources:

        1. Title: Rosie Bevan - soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Repository:
        Name: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        Page: 11-25-2002
        Text: 8.SIR WALTER DE MONTGOMERY. In 1281 he was styled 'Dominus of Sudbury' which
        appears to have been the place of residence of the Montgomery heir apparent.
        Succeeding his father in 1303, he made a grant of the mill at Cubley to Alan
        the miller [Jeayes, Derbyshire Charters, no.929]. On 22 May 1306 he was
        amongst those knighted with Edward, Prince of Wales. In 1308 Walter
        presented to Sudbury church. [Charles Cox, Churches of Derbyshire, v.3 p.
        316]. Pardoned for the death of Piers de Gavaston 1313. Commissioner of
        Array for Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire in 1319. Summoned as a man of arms
        of Northamptonshire and as a knight of Derbyshire to the Great Council at
        Westminster 9 May 1324, and to serve in Guienne 7 January 1325 [C.Moor,
        Knights of Edward I, v.III p. 190]. His first wife and mother of his
        children is unknown. He married secondly Joan, daughter of Sir Robert de
        Stafford and widow of Peter de Gresley d.c 1310. She was implicated in the
        murder of her stepson, William de Montgomery.
        "[Peter de Gresley] married Johanna, daughter and co-heiress of Sir Robert
        de Stafford and a lineal descendant of the Toenis. Very shortly after her
        husband's death, she was forcibly abducted from her manor of Drakelowe,
        which had been assigned to her by her eldest son, and carried off to
        Swinnerton by Sir John de Swinnerton and others. There she was detained
        for a long time, and it is certainly noticeable that we hear nothing of
        her for some years after this event. Justice was slow, and not till
        1321-4 was Sir John brought to trial, when he produced a pardon from the
        King dated May 25, 1310! However, before 1320 Johanna must have escaped,
        for she was then the wife of Sir Walter de Montgomery (a connexion of the
        Swinnertons), who died in 1322 or 1323 [RB - this date of death is
        incorrect]. The violence of the times can be as well gathered from the
        following single incident as from a catalogue of crimes. On Sept 23, 1323,
        Johanna is found abetting her sons Peter and Robert de Gresley in the murder
        of Sir William de Montgomery, son of her late [sic] husband Sir Walter 'on
        the high road under the park of Seal!'
        Philippa the widow of the murdered man procured the arrest of all three,
        but they were acquitted! Again in 1333 she was accused of murder and
        again acquitted. After these records - and they are only samples - one is
        not surprised to hear of her own strong-box being broken into at Drakelowe
        in 1323-4. At last in or before 1342 her turbulent life is ended. "
        [The Gresleys of Drakelow" Wm Salt NS 1:43]
        Walter had granted the manors of Cubley, Marchington and Sudbury to his son,
        William and his heirs, who re-enfeoffed Walter for life. Walter survived his
        murdered son and was still living 6 December 1323 as stated in William's
        inquisition post mortem [CIPM v. VI ; no.509].
        Issue of Walter

        - William. See below
        - Edward. In 1320 Walter Montgomery, senior, conceded and surrendered lands
        in Osleston in the parish of Sutton-on-the-Hill, specifically 1 messuage,
        126 acres 1 rood of land, 16 acres of meadow, and 107s.10 3/4d. rent, with
        the appurtenances to Edward Montgomery to be held by him and the heirs of
        his body created of the said Walter and his heirs [Pedes Finium for the
        County of Derby. Journal of the Derbyshire Archaeological and Natural
        History Society, vol. 18 p 8]. Edward and Catherine, his wife, (possibly a
        daughter of Sir Nicholas Longford d.1356 and Catherine Brailsford) were
        holding a messuage and 24 acres of land in Marchington of Walter in 1343. At
        this date Edward and Catherine had three sons Thomas, Walter and John. From
        another fine dated 1346, they were also holding land in Derby, Brailesford,
        Bolton, Witton, Thurvaston and Longford by right of Catherine. Judging by
        the order of remainders in a fine, Catherine appears to have been formerly
        married to William de Hyntes and had a son William, who was her son and
        heir. [H.J.H Garratt (ed), Derbyshire Feet of Fines 1323-1546; no.831]. In
        1596 William Wyrley visited the church of Sutton- on-the-Hill and noted the
        arms of Longford, Bakepuize and the two coats of Montgomery [Charles Cox,
        Churches of Derbyshire,
        v. 3 p.331]
        - Walter. As 'Walter son of Walter de Monte Gomeri', he and his wife
        Margaret were holding 40 acres in Cubley in 1343. [H.J.H Garratt (ed),
        Derbyshire Feet of Fines 1323-1546; no.808]. He was married to Catherine by
        1358 who was holding a ninth of the manor of Hulton, Staffs. in dower. She
        appears to have been a Bakepuize widow and was holding a third of the manor
        of Potlok for life. They were both living in 1371. [H.J.H Garratt (ed),
        Derbyshire Feet of Fines 1323-1546; no.901 ;
        Harvard Law School Library Deed no. 239 HOLLIS number: -BHJ9993
        www.law.harvard.edu/library/special/collections/manuscripts/deeds]
        - Margaret. Married to Sir John Fitzherbert of Norbury and brought lands in
        Cubley to the Fitzherbert family [Visitation of Derbyshire 1569 and 1611].

         

         

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