de Somery, John 1a 2a 3a

Birth Name de Somery, John
Gender male
Age at Death 70 years


Observations.- Nothing is known of the origin of the family of Somery. John de Somery, its first representative, who m. Hawise Paynel, seems to have held in Little Crawley, Bucks, under Gervase Paynel; but this may have been his wife's
maritagium. No link between John and the de Somery families of Essex, Kent, Herts and Cambridgeshire, or of Sussex, or of Somerset or Dorset, or of Surrey, is discoverable. There was an Agnes de Somery who, before 1170, held under Gervase Payne], in Churchill, Worcs; but she has not been identified. Edmondson and others have suggested that Somery of Dudley sprang from Ascelin, called Gouel de Perceval, ancestor of the Lovels of Castle Cary, Som. There appears to be no evidence for this beyond the fact that in two generations a younger son bore the additional name of Perceval. William de Somery, who succeeded his brother Ralph and died in 1222, is described variously as William de Somery, Percevall de Duddelegh or de Sumery, and William Percevall de Somery. Again, in 1278 and in 1300-01, John, younger brother of Roger de Somery, is styled Persevallus de Somery, and John Perceval de Somery; and he also appears in the Parliamentary Roll of Arms as Sire Perceval de Somery of Warwickshire, bearing Azure, 2 lions passant gold; Roger de Somery bore the coat of the Paynels, viz. Gold, 2 lions passant azure. Lodge states that Sir Roger Perceval, who was living in 1287, was also known as Sir Roger de Somery; but no authority is given, and none has been traced. He was certainly not identical with the contemporary Roger de Somery of Dudley.


Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth 1125 Little Crawley, England   4
Death 1195     4

Age: 70y


Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father de Somery, Roger11231166
Mother , Christina
         de Somery, John 1125 1195


Family of de Somery, John and Paynel, Hawise

Married Wife Paynel, Hawise ( * 1130 + 1197-04-24 )
Event Date Place Description Sources
Marriage 1150 Worchestershire, England   4
Name Birth Date Death Date
de Somery, Ralph11511210

Source References

  1. G. E Cokayne: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom
      • Page: Page: XII/1:110, X:320
      • Source text:

        JOHN DE SOMERY married Hawise, sister and heir of Gervase, and daughter of Ralph PAYNEL, who had inherited the barony of William FitzAnsculph. John died before Gervase. Hawise survived him, and married, 2ndly, Roger DE BERKELEY.

        [Complete Peerage XII/1:109-10

  2. Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, 5th Edition
      • Page: Page: 136-2
      • Citation:

        lists Roger as son, not grandson of John

  3. Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr.: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition
      • Page: Page: 55-27, 81-27