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1. De Montgomery, Roger II
   1. Talvas, Mabel de Balleme
      1. de Montgomery, Robert II
      2. de Montgomery, Maud
      3. de Montgomery, Hugues
         1. 1. de Montgomery, Ralph
      4. de la Spencer, Robert II
      5. de Montgomery, Roger II
      6. De Montgomery, Sybil Matilda
      7. de Montgomery, Arnulph

Ancestors

Source References

1. Michael Neuman: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=michaelrneuman&id=I010926 Neuman-Smith-Goodale Family and Ancestors
   1. • Source text:

        ID: I010926
        Name: Hughes de Montgomery , Earl of Shrewsbury 1 2 3 4
        Sex: M
        Birth: ABT 1044 in St. Germain Montgomery, Normandy, France 1 2 3 4
        Death: 31 JUL 1098 in Montgomery, Montgomeryshire, Wales
        Burial: 17 AUG 1098 Abbey Shrewsbury, Shrewsbury, Clunbury, Shropshire, England
        Note:
        Hugh of Montgomery, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury (d. 1098) was an Anglo-Norman aristocrat.

        He was the second surviving son of Roger of Montgomery, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and Mabel of Bellême. As was typical of the first post-conquest generation, he inherited most of his father's English possessions while his older brother Robert of Bellême, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury inherited the Continental possessions.

        During his four years as earl he spent most of his time in the Welsh march fighthing against the Welsh. In 1098 he joined forces with Hugh d'Avranches, 1st Earl of Chester in an attempt to possess Anglesey. There he was killed while fighting off a raid by king Magnus Barefoot of Norway.

        Hugh was never married, and while it is likely he intended his younger brother Arnulf of Montgomery be his heir, his properties were inherited by the elder brother Robert.

        Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_of_Montgomery%2C_2nd_Earl_of_Shrewsbury"
        ---------------------------------------------------
        HUGH DE MONTGOMERIE, Earl of Shrewsbury and Arundel, succeeded his father in his English possessions. The Welsh gave him the name of Hugh Goch, i. e. Red headed.1 This might be presumed to be a term of reproach, applied as it was by a people who had but little love for the new race which had taken possession of England, and less even for the family, which from its estates on the borders, was foremost in their oppression. While Roger pushed the dominion of his master successfully over the refractory Welsh, his memory is not charged with the same severity and cruelty as adhere to some of his sons in their dealings with them. Hugh survived his father but four years; dying in 1098,2 unmarried, his possessions and honors came to his brother Robert.
        He met his death at the hands of the Norwegians, who at the time were apparently redressing the wrongs the Welsh were suffering under. "Owen, a Welsh lord, father-in-law of Griffith and Cadagan, kings of Wales, having been disobliged by his sons-in-law, privately invited the Earls of Chester and Shrewsbury into his country, promising them a great booty. The two earls levying some troops, were received by Owen into Wales, where they committed unspeakable cruelties. The two kings, surprised by this unexpected attack, were forced to fly into Ireland, and leave the country to the mercy of the English. Their flight giving their enemies an opportunity to continue their march, they penetrated as far as the Isle of Anglesey, where they destroyed all with fire and sword."3 "Magnus, the son of Harold, King of Norway, having taken possession of the Orkneys and of the Isle of Man, arrived accidentally upon the coast of Anglesey. Hearing of the cruelties committed by the English, and touched with a sense of generous pity, he determined to land his forces, and to preserve the miserable inhabitants from destruction. The English endeavored to oppose the Norwegians. In the attempt, the Earl of Shrewsbury was slain. The prince of Norway, observing that nobleman resolute in opposing his landing, and whose impetuous valor had carried him into the sea, levelled an arrow, which through the opening of his armor pierced his right eye, and reaching the brain, he fell down convulsed in the water. The Norwegian prince, on seeing him fall, cried 'Let him dance,' or rather, 'Let him depart.' This accidental stroke of justice seen by the eye of superstition, made the Welsh to conclude, that the arrow had been directed by the immediate hand of the Almighty."4
        In Llandyfrydog being mentioned as the place of Hugh's death, superstition goes further, when it states that one night his dogs being put into the church ran mad, "and the Earl himself died miserably in less than a month after." Another account states that the Earl of Shrewsbury arrived with his vassals first at Diganwy, the place of rendezvous, and waited several days for his auxiliaries. On a threatened landing of the northmen one day, Earl Hugh mounting his horse, put himself at the head of his men, and rushed into the water to meet the enemy. He was immediately killed by an arrow from the hands of Magnus.
        "His bow string twangs,--its biting hail
        Rattles against the ring-linked mail.
        Upon the land in deadly strife,
        Our Norse king took Earl Hugo's life."6
        His body was not recovered until the ebbing of the tide, and was brought from Anglesey, and buried alongside of his father at the great Abbey of Shrewsbury.1 He built the castle at Cleobury, of which there are now scarcely any remains.2 And he added considerably to the endowments of his father's abbey at Shrewsbury, "with a heavy curse on the violator."3 "He was the only one of Mabel's sons who was courteous and amiable; and he conducted himself with great moderation during the four years he held the family honors and domains.

        1 Rapin's History, i. 187.
        2 Gough's Camden, iii. 9.
        3 Rapin's History, i. 187.
        4 Warrington's Wales, i. 358-9.
        5 Gough's Camden, iii. 205.
        6 Saga of King Magnus, quoted in Wiffen's Mem. of House of Russell.
        -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        He was at the Castle of Bures when his mother was murdered there and he pursued the murderers in vain. In the summer of 1080 at Caen he joined his brothers in attesting his father's charter for Troarn fo rthe soul of their mother. Before his father's death he was already recognised as his heir in England. In 1092 he was at the siege of Breval and with other magnates he made peace between William deBréteui l and Ascelin Goel. On Roger's death in 1094 he succeeded him as EARL OF SHROPSHIRE or SHREWSBURY and to all his land s in England and Wales. In that year the Welsh rose in arms . Hugh fought them with some success in North Wales, but in 1095 they took Montgomery and slaughtered the garrison. Hugh took part in the conspiracy against William II in 1095 , but he bought the King's favour for £3,000. In1098 with the Earl of Chester he invaded and conquered Anglesey, treating the Welsh with great cruelty. When a Norwegian fleet appeared off the coast of North Wales, the 2 Earls met at Diganwy (co.Carnarvon) and crossed to Anglesey. As the fleet approached the land, the Earl rode along the shore and was struck by an arrow shot, or a javelin thrown, from a ship and fell dying into the sea. Thus he died unmarried about 31 July 1098 and was buried about 17 August at Shrewsbury Abbey.[d] [Complete Peerage XI:688-9, (transcribe d by DaveUtzinger)]

        The Normans and English long sought for his corpse, drawn a way by the tide, and found it at length; and on the 17th da y after his death bore it to Shrewsbury, where it was buried in the abbey amid great mourning. He was the only one of the sons of Mabel who was gentle and amiable. This seems hardly compatible with the alleged cruelties tothe Welsh in Anglesey.

        Records show that he left as issue one illegitimate son, Ralph Montgomery.

         

        Father: Roger II de Montgomery , Earl of Shrewsbury b: ABT 1022 in St. Germain Montgomery, Normandy, France
        Mother: Mabel Talvas d'Alençon b: ABT 1026 in Alençon, Eure, Normandy, France

        Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
        Children
        Ralph De Montgomery b: ABT 1073 in Cubley, Uttoxeter, Derbyshire, England

        Sources:
        Title: Alice Des Meschines.ged
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: 10 Feb 2005
        Title: Aliva Basset.ged
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: 10 Feb 2005
        Title: Peter de Bruce.ged
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: 12 Feb 2005
        Title: eleanor of aquitaine.ged
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: 20 Feb 2005

         

      • Citation:

        Descendants and ancestors of George Smith and Eva Goodale

        michaelneuman@earthlink.net

   2. • Source text:

        ID: I010926
        Name: Hughes de Montgomery , Earl of Shrewsbury 1 2 3 4
        Sex: M
        Birth: ABT 1044 in St. Germain Montgomery, Normandy, France 1 2 3 4
        Death: 31 JUL 1098 in Montgomery, Montgomeryshire, Wales
        Burial: 17 AUG 1098 Abbey Shrewsbury, Shrewsbury, Clunbury, Shropshire, England
        Note:
        Hugh of Montgomery, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury (d. 1098) was an Anglo-Norman aristocrat.

        He was the second surviving son of Roger of Montgomery, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and Mabel of Bellême. As was typical of the first post-conquest generation, he inherited most of his father's English possessions while his older brother Robert of Bellême, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury inherited the Continental possessions.

        During his four years as earl he spent most of his time in the Welsh march fighthing against the Welsh. In 1098 he joined forces with Hugh d'Avranches, 1st Earl of Chester in an attempt to possess Anglesey. There he was killed while fighting off a raid by king Magnus Barefoot of Norway.

        Hugh was never married, and while it is likely he intended his younger brother Arnulf of Montgomery be his heir, his properties were inherited by the elder brother Robert.

        Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_of_Montgomery%2C_2nd_Earl_of_Shrewsbury"
        ---------------------------------------------------
        HUGH DE MONTGOMERIE, Earl of Shrewsbury and Arundel, succeeded his father in his English possessions. The Welsh gave him the name of Hugh Goch, i. e. Red headed.1 This might be presumed to be a term of reproach, applied as it was by a people who had but little love for the new race which had taken possession of England, and less even for the family, which from its estates on the borders, was foremost in their oppression. While Roger pushed the dominion of his master successfully over the refractory Welsh, his memory is not charged with the same severity and cruelty as adhere to some of his sons in their dealings with them. Hugh survived his father but four years; dying in 1098,2 unmarried, his possessions and honors came to his brother Robert.
        He met his death at the hands of the Norwegians, who at the time were apparently redressing the wrongs the Welsh were suffering under. "Owen, a Welsh lord, father-in-law of Griffith and Cadagan, kings of Wales, having been disobliged by his sons-in-law, privately invited the Earls of Chester and Shrewsbury into his country, promising them a great booty. The two earls levying some troops, were received by Owen into Wales, where they committed unspeakable cruelties. The two kings, surprised by this unexpected attack, were forced to fly into Ireland, and leave the country to the mercy of the English. Their flight giving their enemies an opportunity to continue their march, they penetrated as far as the Isle of Anglesey, where they destroyed all with fire and sword."3 "Magnus, the son of Harold, King of Norway, having taken possession of the Orkneys and of the Isle of Man, arrived accidentally upon the coast of Anglesey. Hearing of the cruelties committed by the English, and touched with a sense of generous pity, he determined to land his forces, and to preserve the miserable inhabitants from destruction. The English endeavored to oppose the Norwegians. In the attempt, the Earl of Shrewsbury was slain. The prince of Norway, observing that nobleman resolute in opposing his landing, and whose impetuous valor had carried him into the sea, levelled an arrow, which through the opening of his armor pierced his right eye, and reaching the brain, he fell down convulsed in the water. The Norwegian prince, on seeing him fall, cried 'Let him dance,' or rather, 'Let him depart.' This accidental stroke of justice seen by the eye of superstition, made the Welsh to conclude, that the arrow had been directed by the immediate hand of the Almighty."4
        In Llandyfrydog being mentioned as the place of Hugh's death, superstition goes further, when it states that one night his dogs being put into the church ran mad, "and the Earl himself died miserably in less than a month after." Another account states that the Earl of Shrewsbury arrived with his vassals first at Diganwy, the place of rendezvous, and waited several days for his auxiliaries. On a threatened landing of the northmen one day, Earl Hugh mounting his horse, put himself at the head of his men, and rushed into the water to meet the enemy. He was immediately killed by an arrow from the hands of Magnus.
        "His bow string twangs,--its biting hail
        Rattles against the ring-linked mail.
        Upon the land in deadly strife,
        Our Norse king took Earl Hugo's life."6
        His body was not recovered until the ebbing of the tide, and was brought from Anglesey, and buried alongside of his father at the great Abbey of Shrewsbury.1 He built the castle at Cleobury, of which there are now scarcely any remains.2 And he added considerably to the endowments of his father's abbey at Shrewsbury, "with a heavy curse on the violator."3 "He was the only one of Mabel's sons who was courteous and amiable; and he conducted himself with great moderation during the four years he held the family honors and domains.

        1 Rapin's History, i. 187.
        2 Gough's Camden, iii. 9.
        3 Rapin's History, i. 187.
        4 Warrington's Wales, i. 358-9.
        5 Gough's Camden, iii. 205.
        6 Saga of King Magnus, quoted in Wiffen's Mem. of House of Russell.
        -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        He was at the Castle of Bures when his mother was murdered there and he pursued the murderers in vain. In the summer of 1080 at Caen he joined his brothers in attesting his father's charter for Troarn fo rthe soul of their mother. Before his father's death he was already recognised as his heir in England. In 1092 he was at the siege of Breval and with other magnates he made peace between William deBréteui l and Ascelin Goel. On Roger's death in 1094 he succeeded him as EARL OF SHROPSHIRE or SHREWSBURY and to all his land s in England and Wales. In that year the Welsh rose in arms . Hugh fought them with some success in North Wales, but in 1095 they took Montgomery and slaughtered the garrison. Hugh took part in the conspiracy against William II in 1095 , but he bought the King's favour for £3,000. In1098 with the Earl of Chester he invaded and conquered Anglesey, treating the Welsh with great cruelty. When a Norwegian fleet appeared off the coast of North Wales, the 2 Earls met at Diganwy (co.Carnarvon) and crossed to Anglesey. As the fleet approached the land, the Earl rode along the shore and was struck by an arrow shot, or a javelin thrown, from a ship and fell dying into the sea. Thus he died unmarried about 31 July 1098 and was buried about 17 August at Shrewsbury Abbey.[d] [Complete Peerage XI:688-9, (transcribe d by DaveUtzinger)]

        The Normans and English long sought for his corpse, drawn a way by the tide, and found it at length; and on the 17th da y after his death bore it to Shrewsbury, where it was buried in the abbey amid great mourning. He was the only one of the sons of Mabel who was gentle and amiable. This seems hardly compatible with the alleged cruelties tothe Welsh in Anglesey.

        Records show that he left as issue one illegitimate son, Ralph Montgomery.

         

        Father: Roger II de Montgomery , Earl of Shrewsbury b: ABT 1022 in St. Germain Montgomery, Normandy, France
        Mother: Mabel Talvas d'Alençon b: ABT 1026 in Alençon, Eure, Normandy, France

        Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
        Children
        Ralph De Montgomery b: ABT 1073 in Cubley, Uttoxeter, Derbyshire, England

        Sources:
        Title: Alice Des Meschines.ged
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: 10 Feb 2005
        Title: Aliva Basset.ged
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: 10 Feb 2005
        Title: Peter de Bruce.ged
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: 12 Feb 2005
        Title: eleanor of aquitaine.ged
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: 20 Feb 2005

         

      • Citation:

        Descendants and ancestors of George Smith and Eva Goodale

        michaelneuman@earthlink.net

   3. • Source text:

        ID: I010926
        Name: Hughes de Montgomery , Earl of Shrewsbury 1 2 3 4
        Sex: M
        Birth: ABT 1044 in St. Germain Montgomery, Normandy, France 1 2 3 4
        Death: 31 JUL 1098 in Montgomery, Montgomeryshire, Wales
        Burial: 17 AUG 1098 Abbey Shrewsbury, Shrewsbury, Clunbury, Shropshire, England
        Note:
        Hugh of Montgomery, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury (d. 1098) was an Anglo-Norman aristocrat.

        He was the second surviving son of Roger of Montgomery, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and Mabel of Bellême. As was typical of the first post-conquest generation, he inherited most of his father's English possessions while his older brother Robert of Bellême, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury inherited the Continental possessions.

        During his four years as earl he spent most of his time in the Welsh march fighthing against the Welsh. In 1098 he joined forces with Hugh d'Avranches, 1st Earl of Chester in an attempt to possess Anglesey. There he was killed while fighting off a raid by king Magnus Barefoot of Norway.

        Hugh was never married, and while it is likely he intended his younger brother Arnulf of Montgomery be his heir, his properties were inherited by the elder brother Robert.

        Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_of_Montgomery%2C_2nd_Earl_of_Shrewsbury"
        ---------------------------------------------------
        HUGH DE MONTGOMERIE, Earl of Shrewsbury and Arundel, succeeded his father in his English possessions. The Welsh gave him the name of Hugh Goch, i. e. Red headed.1 This might be presumed to be a term of reproach, applied as it was by a people who had but little love for the new race which had taken possession of England, and less even for the family, which from its estates on the borders, was foremost in their oppression. While Roger pushed the dominion of his master successfully over the refractory Welsh, his memory is not charged with the same severity and cruelty as adhere to some of his sons in their dealings with them. Hugh survived his father but four years; dying in 1098,2 unmarried, his possessions and honors came to his brother Robert.
        He met his death at the hands of the Norwegians, who at the time were apparently redressing the wrongs the Welsh were suffering under. "Owen, a Welsh lord, father-in-law of Griffith and Cadagan, kings of Wales, having been disobliged by his sons-in-law, privately invited the Earls of Chester and Shrewsbury into his country, promising them a great booty. The two earls levying some troops, were received by Owen into Wales, where they committed unspeakable cruelties. The two kings, surprised by this unexpected attack, were forced to fly into Ireland, and leave the country to the mercy of the English. Their flight giving their enemies an opportunity to continue their march, they penetrated as far as the Isle of Anglesey, where they destroyed all with fire and sword."3 "Magnus, the son of Harold, King of Norway, having taken possession of the Orkneys and of the Isle of Man, arrived accidentally upon the coast of Anglesey. Hearing of the cruelties committed by the English, and touched with a sense of generous pity, he determined to land his forces, and to preserve the miserable inhabitants from destruction. The English endeavored to oppose the Norwegians. In the attempt, the Earl of Shrewsbury was slain. The prince of Norway, observing that nobleman resolute in opposing his landing, and whose impetuous valor had carried him into the sea, levelled an arrow, which through the opening of his armor pierced his right eye, and reaching the brain, he fell down convulsed in the water. The Norwegian prince, on seeing him fall, cried 'Let him dance,' or rather, 'Let him depart.' This accidental stroke of justice seen by the eye of superstition, made the Welsh to conclude, that the arrow had been directed by the immediate hand of the Almighty."4
        In Llandyfrydog being mentioned as the place of Hugh's death, superstition goes further, when it states that one night his dogs being put into the church ran mad, "and the Earl himself died miserably in less than a month after." Another account states that the Earl of Shrewsbury arrived with his vassals first at Diganwy, the place of rendezvous, and waited several days for his auxiliaries. On a threatened landing of the northmen one day, Earl Hugh mounting his horse, put himself at the head of his men, and rushed into the water to meet the enemy. He was immediately killed by an arrow from the hands of Magnus.
        "His bow string twangs,--its biting hail
        Rattles against the ring-linked mail.
        Upon the land in deadly strife,
        Our Norse king took Earl Hugo's life."6
        His body was not recovered until the ebbing of the tide, and was brought from Anglesey, and buried alongside of his father at the great Abbey of Shrewsbury.1 He built the castle at Cleobury, of which there are now scarcely any remains.2 And he added considerably to the endowments of his father's abbey at Shrewsbury, "with a heavy curse on the violator."3 "He was the only one of Mabel's sons who was courteous and amiable; and he conducted himself with great moderation during the four years he held the family honors and domains.

        1 Rapin's History, i. 187.
        2 Gough's Camden, iii. 9.
        3 Rapin's History, i. 187.
        4 Warrington's Wales, i. 358-9.
        5 Gough's Camden, iii. 205.
        6 Saga of King Magnus, quoted in Wiffen's Mem. of House of Russell.
        -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        He was at the Castle of Bures when his mother was murdered there and he pursued the murderers in vain. In the summer of 1080 at Caen he joined his brothers in attesting his father's charter for Troarn fo rthe soul of their mother. Before his father's death he was already recognised as his heir in England. In 1092 he was at the siege of Breval and with other magnates he made peace between William deBréteui l and Ascelin Goel. On Roger's death in 1094 he succeeded him as EARL OF SHROPSHIRE or SHREWSBURY and to all his land s in England and Wales. In that year the Welsh rose in arms . Hugh fought them with some success in North Wales, but in 1095 they took Montgomery and slaughtered the garrison. Hugh took part in the conspiracy against William II in 1095 , but he bought the King's favour for £3,000. In1098 with the Earl of Chester he invaded and conquered Anglesey, treating the Welsh with great cruelty. When a Norwegian fleet appeared off the coast of North Wales, the 2 Earls met at Diganwy (co.Carnarvon) and crossed to Anglesey. As the fleet approached the land, the Earl rode along the shore and was struck by an arrow shot, or a javelin thrown, from a ship and fell dying into the sea. Thus he died unmarried about 31 July 1098 and was buried about 17 August at Shrewsbury Abbey.[d] [Complete Peerage XI:688-9, (transcribe d by DaveUtzinger)]

        The Normans and English long sought for his corpse, drawn a way by the tide, and found it at length; and on the 17th da y after his death bore it to Shrewsbury, where it was buried in the abbey amid great mourning. He was the only one of the sons of Mabel who was gentle and amiable. This seems hardly compatible with the alleged cruelties tothe Welsh in Anglesey.

        Records show that he left as issue one illegitimate son, Ralph Montgomery.

         

        Father: Roger II de Montgomery , Earl of Shrewsbury b: ABT 1022 in St. Germain Montgomery, Normandy, France
        Mother: Mabel Talvas d'Alençon b: ABT 1026 in Alençon, Eure, Normandy, France

        Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
        Children
        Ralph De Montgomery b: ABT 1073 in Cubley, Uttoxeter, Derbyshire, England

        Sources:
        Title: Alice Des Meschines.ged
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: 10 Feb 2005
        Title: Aliva Basset.ged
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: 10 Feb 2005
        Title: Peter de Bruce.ged
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: 12 Feb 2005
        Title: eleanor of aquitaine.ged
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: 20 Feb 2005

         

      • Citation:

        Descendants and ancestors of George Smith and Eva Goodale

        michaelneuman@earthlink.net