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From Newsgroup: rec.arts.anime.misc
Post : Internet Culture, Fandom, and the Tendency to Offend
URL :< https://ogiuemaniax.wordpress.com/2015/03/20/internet-cultur e-fandom-and-the-tendency-to-offend/>
Posted : March 20, 2015 at 1:21 pm
Author : sdshamshel
Tags : homophobia, internet humor, memes
Categories : fandom, thought exercise, translation, trends
I'm someone who's interested in anime and manga about "nerds," be they otaku, fujoshi, geeks, or any number of labels. I've spent a lot of time looking at this stuff, and I've noticed that often when a character speaks using internet lingo in real life, the translation to English, whether it is official or fan-derived, often utilize some fairly offensive terms. A riajuu (someone who is content with their real life situation) becomes a "normalfag." An otoko no ko (a boy who dresses rather convincingly as a girl) becomes a "trap." On the one hand, it would be simply a matter of just not using those terms. On the other hand, I could see the argument that if a character is, say, someone who spends most of their time on internet messageboards, that the Japanese equivalent terms should be met with equally ubiquitous terms among English speakers. If term A comes from 2channel, why not look to 4chan for the English equivalent? However, the very fact that the vocabulary has this negative quality makes me feel that there is something buried deep within how internet anime fandom has structured itself that tends towards insults...
OK bliss here and the article has several more paragraphs so best to go
to the sight if you find this teaser interesting.
Followup are set to rec.arts.anime.misc
bliss
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| Re: Oguie Maniax article:Internet Culture, Fandom, and the Tendency [message #286307 is a reply to message #286298] |
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From Newsgroup: rec.arts.anime.misc
<snip>
It's called "basic human nature"
A lot of the topics depicted in anime that get the most derogatory-type terms aren't really considered (hetero)normative behavior even in "polite" society. And of course there's the whole issue of anonymity making it more "okay" to be an asshole, especially in places like 4chan where it's done "ironically" (of course, Poe's law makes it so it's hard to tell what's parody and what's actual fuckwad behavior).
I also have this personal theory that anime fans tend to talk bad even about their own fandom because it's not considered a "cool adult" hobby. So they marginalize people within their own group. "I might watch [Series X] but at least I don't do [Y activity]!"
-"Dot"
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| Re: Oguie Maniax article:Internet Culture, Fandom, and the Tendency [message #286314 is a reply to message #286307] |
Fri, 20 March 2015 19:25 |
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From Newsgroup: rec.arts.anime.misc
On 03/20/2015 02:33 PM, dot_warner17@hotmail.com wrote:
> <snip>
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> It's called "basic human nature"
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> A lot of the topics depicted in anime that get the most derogatory-type terms aren't really considered (hetero)normative behavior even in "polite" society. And of course there's the whole issue of anonymity making it more "okay" to be an asshole, especially in places like 4chan where it's done "ironically" (of course, Poe's law makes it so it's hard to tell what's parody and what's actual fuckwad behavior).
>
> I also have this personal theory that anime fans tend to talk bad even about their own fandom because it's not considered a "cool adult" hobby. So they marginalize people within their own group. "I might watch [Series X] but at least I don't do [Y activity]!"
> -"Dot"
>
Well maybe you should offer that as a comment to the article at the web
site(sight is incorrect.) The URL in the header will take you
there.
Of course once there you could take a couple of moments to
read my comments. No not blushing at my shameless self-promotion.
bliss
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