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Summary of V1.2 suggestions received [message #282276] Thu, 16 January 1986 15:58 Go to next message
tenney is currently offline  tenney
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Article-I.D.: well.497
Posted: Thu Jan 16 15:58:41 1986
Date-Received: Sat, 18-Jan-86 07:43:24 EST
Reply-To: tenney@well.UUCP (Glenn S. Tenney)
Organization: Whole Earth Lectronic Link, Sausalito CA
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Keywords: Kickstart V1.2
Summary: Kickstart v1.2 suggestions passed on to Amiga


The following is a copy of the summary I passed on to various people
at Commodore-Amiga.  I received many fine suggestions, thanks to all.


-- Glenn Tenney 
UUCP: {hplabs,glacier,lll-crg,ihnp4!ptsfa}!well!tenney
ARPA: well!tenney@LLL-CRG.ARPA
Delphi: TENNEY
As Alphonso Bodoya would say... (tnx boulton)
Disclaimers? DISCLAIMERS!? I don' gotta show you no stinking DISCLAIMERS!

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The following is a summary of the many good constructive comments
I've received from UseNet and the Well.  This is only a summary, and
the only order is that my own ideas are first.	I have done very
limited filerting since most ideas are quite good.  I have attached
a copy of the original text.  If you have any questions, please
contact me.



A program must have a way of finding the window etc. that dos is using
for the current interactive output (RAW: or not!) so we can do graphics
in the same window.

There should be a way to have DOS shrink the size of an existing file,
not just extend it.

CLI should not object to an object file that has data (or junk) following
the end of it.	If the beginning is valid, load it and execute it.  Forget
the following junk, it may be special data for me or the result of an
Xmodem transfer.

Be able to mouse text in a console window (ala the Sun ideally) so I can
make a selection of text and stuff it somewhere by a special button with
a click.  Should also work with text and numeric gadgets.  It would also
be nice to be able to insert/edit this text.  A follow-on to this would
be to keep console windows (by choice?) as simple refresh (you keep just
the text characters and let the console driver decide what and how to
refresh) which would use less memory.

An Intuition call to make the window the active window.  Yes it can be
dangerous, but there are good reasons to do it!  When you open a window
you can make it active, but there is no other way for the program to make
a window active.

Stop the drives from clicking when empty.

Special keys for depth arranging windows (not just the mouse).

Speed of DOS.

Speed of Intuition opening disks and directories.  Keep more
of icons/dirs/etc. in memory so things are faster.

Rewrite the desktop more often (when window sizes change).

Keep some information around so that if a disk's window is open,
the next time the disk is used its desktop reappears without
having to double click the disk.

Multiple track.disk buffers so operations on the same disk
will be a lot faster.

Better handling of keyboard in DOS.  Display of ctl chars and
backspacing over them.	Related is a "re-do" key for DOS, and
a history/editing of keyboard input.

CLI should automatically try to "execute" a file if an object
file was not found.

Step rate of drives may be slightly wrong (one person says).

There should be a built in keyboard definer.

There should be a spooler.

Apparent bug with italics on screen.  Cursor chops off upper right
corner of characters.

Console output is too slow!!!!!

One person wants more graphics routines (circles, etc) and a more
Mac like memory management system.

Track.disk should have a way of optimizing seeks.

Extend VANILLAKEYS to use the default keymap.  Make the raw key info
available.

Demand paging or at least swapping.

Support PIPES !!!

CLI: more Unix like wildcards;	More csh-like capabilities.

The system font should be selectable by the user.

A zooming gadget:  click once and that window fills the screen, click
again and it goes back to where it was.

Problem:   writing to Console device via CMD_WRITE (DOIO) a length
of -1 does not cause it to use a null terminated string.   (huh??)

Have screen editor available thru workbench.  (and use the mouse)

ASSIGN:   should support multiple directories.

Send current screen to printer or a file by pressing certain keys.

Confidence test or diagnostics program shd be available.

COPY:	the copied file should have the same date as the original!!!!!
This is actually fairly important.

There should be a way to have a program "chain" to another program.

CLI: should be able to kill processes.

SER: via CLI:	Should be able to to NEWCLI SER: , but it doesn`t
now because of a large buffer.	Perhaps specify buffer size ala
SER:size=n   and other options too!!!	Like RAW: with options.

One person would like to be able to intercept dos "execute" calls
to do their own cli.

Unix type of file links would be nice.

Users want to write device drivers and replace existing ones.

Support an alternative dos disk format that is faster.

A few people objected to the bcpl useage.  "Get rid of the bcp stuff!"

Allow flow control on the console (^S/^Q xon/xoff).

Keyboard: prefer N key rollover.

CLI: ability to define your own prompt (ala msdos)

A font editor.

ASSIGN and CD	It would be nice to mean the drive when you say DF1:
and not the disk that is now in the drive.  Then you could change disks
and it would try the new disk.	 Also, if it is DF1:, then automatically
check its "c" directory.

Workbench:   Removing a disk from a drive should not remove it from the
desktop.  Something like moving the disk's icon to a trash can or a special
remove option.

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Re: Summary of V1.2 suggestions received [message #282304 is a reply to message #282276] Sat, 18 January 1986 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
acs is currently offline  acs
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Article-I.D.: amdahl.2597
Posted: Sat Jan 18 18:09:48 1986
Date-Received: Mon, 20-Jan-86 05:33:33 EST
References: <497@well.UUCP>
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
Lines: 24
Keywords: Kickstart V1.2
Summary: Other suggestions

 >  Be able to mouse text in a console window (ala the Sun ideally) so I can
 >  make a selection of text and stuff it somewhere by a special button with
 >  a click.
How about being able to clipboard a command or a piece of a command and,
after optional editting, etc., re-enter it.  Would also bew nice to be
able to move the cursor up, modify an old command and cause it to be
re-executed.

 >  Speed of Intuition opening disks and directories.  Keep more
 >  of icons/dirs/etc. in memory so things are faster.
 >          ...
 >  Keep some information around so that if a disk's window is open,
 >  the next time the disk is used its desktop reappears without
 >  having to double click the disk.
 >          ...
 >  Multiple track.disk buffers so operations on the same disk
 >  will be a lot faster.
For those of us with minimal machine configurations (i.e. 256K), please
make this optional.

-- 
Tony Sumrall                       ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,amd,sun}!amdahl!acs

[ This reflects no one's opinions. ]
Re: Summary of V1.2 suggestions received [message #282344 is a reply to message #282276] Tue, 21 January 1986 19:44 Go to previous message
acs is currently offline  acs
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Article-I.D.: amdahl.2620
Posted: Tue Jan 21 19:44:37 1986
Date-Received: Thu, 23-Jan-86 21:02:18 EST
References: <497@well.UUCP>
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
Lines: 27
Keywords: Kickstart V1.2
Summary: Other suggestions


Someone finger checked here so this may not have made it out.  If it has,
I apologize...if it hasn't then I don't.

 >  Be able to mouse text in a console window (ala the Sun ideally) so I can
 >  make a selection of text and stuff it somewhere by a special button with
 >  a click.
How about being able to clipboard a command or a piece of a command and,
after optional editting, etc., re-enter it.  Would also bew nice to be
able to move the cursor up, modify an old command and cause it to be
re-executed.

 >  Speed of Intuition opening disks and directories.  Keep more
 >  of icons/dirs/etc. in memory so things are faster.
 >          ...
 >  Keep some information around so that if a disk's window is open,
 >  the next time the disk is used its desktop reappears without
 >  having to double click the disk.
 >          ...
 >  Multiple track.disk buffers so operations on the same disk
 >  will be a lot faster.
For those of us with minimal machine configurations (i.e. 256K), please
make this optional.
-- 
Tony Sumrall                       ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,amd,sun}!amdahl!acs

[ This reflects no one's opinions. ]
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