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RATMM dying [message #177193] Fri, 04 September 2009 12:07 Go to next message
Jonah Falcon is currently offline  Jonah Falcon
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August 4
August 11
Augusr 13 (2x)
August 15
August 27

Those are the new threads of August 2009. That's it.
Re: RATMM dying [message #177194 is a reply to message #177193] Fri, 04 September 2009 17:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sep 4, 9:07 am, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> August 4
> August 11
> Augusr 13 (2x)
> August 15
> August 27
>
> Those are the new threads of August 2009. That's it.


Well, the show has been off the air for 10 years. There's not much
left to say about it.

Nothing lasts forever.

Kate
Re: RATMM dying [message #177195 is a reply to message #177194] Fri, 04 September 2009 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Frank J. Lhota is currently offline  Frank J. Lhota
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Kate wrote:
> On Sep 4, 9:07 am, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> August 4
>> August 11
>> Augusr 13 (2x)
>> August 15
>> August 27
>>
>> Those are the new threads of August 2009. That's it.
>
>
> Well, the show has been off the air for 10 years. There's not much
> left to say about it.
>
> Nothing lasts forever.

Actually, there is still a lot of post MST3K activities such as Rifftrax
and Cinema Titanic to discuss.

More likely, the problem is that Usenet volume is way down. Most ISP's
have dropped newsgroup support, fearing lawsuits over copyrighted
material and highly illegal binary posts. Be thankful for sites such as
Google groups; without them, a lot of people would not even have an
opportunity to participate in a newsgroup!

> Kate


--
"All things extant in this world,
Gods of Heaven, gods of Earth,
Let everything be as it should be;
Thus shall it be!"
- Magical chant from "Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi"

"Drizzle, Drazzle, Drozzle, Drome,
Time for this one to come home!"
- Mr. Wizard from "Tooter Turtle"
Re: RATMM dying [message #177196 is a reply to message #177195] Sat, 05 September 2009 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Randy Golden

On Sep 4, 5:45 pm, "Frank J. Lhota" <FrankLho.NOS...@rcn.com> did
verily sayeth:
> Kate wrote:
>> On Sep 4, 9:07 am, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>> August 4
>>> August 11
>>> Augusr 13 (2x)
>>> August 15
>>> August 27
>
>>> Those are the new threads of August 2009. That's it.
>
>> Well, the show has been off the air for 10 years.  There's not much
>> left to say about it.
>
>> Nothing lasts forever.
>
> Actually, there is still a lot of post MST3K activities such as Rifftrax
>   and Cinema Titanic to discuss.
>
> More likely, the problem is that Usenet volume is way down. Most ISP's
> have dropped newsgroup support, fearing lawsuits over copyrighted
> material and highly illegal binary posts. Be thankful for sites such as
> Google groups; without them, a lot of people would not even have an
> opportunity to participate in a newsgroup!

Let alone lurk in one! As long as Google Groups enables invisible
moral support, RATMM will always have a dedicated audience for the
intermittent adventures of Jonah, Derek, Elrod, Mr. Nebus and company.


Randy Golden
MST Info Club #94720
(Hi! I'm part of the problem and not the solution!)
Re: RATMM dying [message #177197 is a reply to message #177193] Sat, 05 September 2009 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Reaper G is currently offline  Reaper G
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On Sep 4, 9:07�am, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> August 4
> August 11
> Augusr 13 (2x)
> August 15
> August 27
>
> Those are the new threads of August 2009. That's it.

I'd contribute more, but gosh darn it, I've got nothing to contribute.

Always lurking, rarely posting.

--
Reaper G
Pest, Foodie, MSTie, G-fan, Wrestlemaniac, and geek-at-large
http://reaper_g.livejournal.com
Re: RATMM dying [message #177198 is a reply to message #177197] Sat, 05 September 2009 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim Ellwanger is currently offline  Jim Ellwanger
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In article
<b6dd1ea8-f62e-4b4f-b7a2-a98a2f73adcd@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Reaper G <reaperg@aol.com> wrote:

> I'd contribute more, but gosh darn it, I've got nothing to contribute.
>
> Always lurking, rarely posting.

Which reminds me -- are you still in Vegas? Are you looking for a job?
Have you looked into the new "Let's Make a Deal" with Wayne Brady? I
have no idea if they still need to fill production staff positions, but
perhaps they could hire you to dress up in a sailor suit and hold a
giant lollipop while sitting on a huge rocking chair.

--
Jim Ellwanger <usenet@ellwanger.tv>
<http://www.ellwanger.tv> welcomes you daily.
"The days turn into nights; at night, you hear the trains."
Re: RATMM dying [message #177199 is a reply to message #177196] Sat, 05 September 2009 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: RATMM dying [message #177200 is a reply to message #177199] Sat, 05 September 2009 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Derek Janssen

Judith wrote:
> In article
> <938e825c-f992-4a0d-ba5c-ed3650767bb7@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> Randy Golden <r-golden@att.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 4, 5:45 pm, "Frank J. Lhota" <FrankLho.NOS...@rcn.com> did
>> verily sayeth:
>>> Kate wrote:
>>>> On Sep 4, 9:07 am, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>> > August 4
>>>> > August 11
>>>> > Augusr 13 (2x)
>>>> > August 15
>>>> > August 27
>>>> > Those are the new threads of August 2009. That's it.
>>>> Well, the show has been off the air for 10 years. There's not much
>>>> left to say about it.
>>>> Nothing lasts forever.
>>> Actually, there is still a lot of post MST3K activities such as Rifftrax
>>> and Cinema Titanic to discuss.
>>>
>>> More likely, the problem is that Usenet volume is way down. Most ISP's
>>> have dropped newsgroup support, fearing lawsuits over copyrighted
>>> material and highly illegal binary posts. Be thankful for sites such as
>>> Google groups; without them, a lot of people would not even have an
>>> opportunity to participate in a newsgroup!
>> Let alone lurk in one! As long as Google Groups enables invisible
>> moral support, RATMM will always have a dedicated audience for the
>> intermittent adventures of Jonah, Derek, Elrod, Mr. Nebus and company.
>>
>>
>> Randy Golden
>> MST Info Club #94720
>> (Hi! I'm part of the problem and not the solution!)
>
> Randy! Well-remembered and -loved, from RATMM's Golden Age.
> Although I don't know if *invisible* *moral* support is gonna hack it.
> Poor old RATMM may be doomed...
>
> Judith, de-lurking and also part of the problem.

Then again, it could just be the traditional post by the Group
Leech/Annoyance (at whichever group you might happen to be), who, at
this traditional point in the group evolution, says, "Hey, how come you
guys aren't writing no more interesting posts for me to read?"...
Which more than speaks volumes for the quality of his interaction in the
past. ;)

As for me, I'm weighing options besides Google once Verizon joins the
party-poopers, and still looking forward to Boxset XVI in December.

Derek Janssen
ejanss1@verizon.net
Re: RATMM dying [message #177201 is a reply to message #177198] Sun, 06 September 2009 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sep 5, 12:26�pm, Jim Ellwanger <use...@ellwanger.tv> wrote:
> In article
> <b6dd1ea8-f62e-4b4f-b7a2-a98a2f73a...@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> �Reaper G <reap...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd contribute more, but gosh darn it, I've got nothing to contribute.
>
>> Always lurking, rarely posting.
>
> Which reminds me -- are you still in Vegas? �Are you looking for a job? �
> Have you looked into the new "Let's Make a Deal" with Wayne Brady? �I
> have no idea if they still need to fill production staff positions, but
> perhaps they could hire you to dress up in a sailor suit and hold a
> giant lollipop while sitting on a huge rocking chair.

I'm still in Vegas, and still at the same restaurant for the past five
years. Not really looking into TV work anymore.

By the way, I may or may not return to L.A. in January, though I'd be
staying around in LAX. How's the Valley doing?

--
Reaper G
Pest, Foodie, MSTie, G-fan, Wrestlemaniac, and geek-at-large
http://reaper_g.livejournal.com
Re: RATMM dying [message #177202 is a reply to message #177201] Sun, 06 September 2009 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article
<a988ec95-4679-4136-9316-ce1a0cda1326@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Reaper G <reaperg@aol.com> wrote:

> By the way, I may or may not return to L.A. in January, though I'd be
> staying around in LAX. How's the Valley doing?

Hot and smoky. Hopefully those situations will have been alleviated by
January!

--
Jim Ellwanger <usenet@ellwanger.tv>
<http://www.ellwanger.tv> welcomes you daily.
"The days turn into nights; at night, you hear the trains."
Re: RATMM dying [message #177308 is a reply to message #177195] Tue, 08 September 2009 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sep 4, 5:45 pm, "Frank J. Lhota" <FrankLho.NOS...@rcn.com> wrote:
> Actually, there is still a lot of post MST3K activities such as Rifftrax
>   and Cinema Titanic to discuss.

I think they're taking summer breaks, or something! I guess we could
talk about them not doing anything ;-). Or maybe there's something
exciting just around the corner?

-Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
Re: RATMM dying [message #177309 is a reply to message #177308] Tue, 08 September 2009 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Frank J. Lhota is currently offline  Frank J. Lhota
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Doug Elrod wrote:
> I think they're taking summer breaks, or something! I guess we could
> talk about them not doing anything ;-). Or maybe there's something
> exciting just around the corner?
>
> -Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)

A couple of weeks ago (August 20th to be precise), Rifftrax did a live
riffing of "Plan Nine From Outer Space", along with an appropriate
short. And yes, I did start a thread about the event.

--
"All things extant in this world,
Gods of Heaven, gods of Earth,
Let everything be as it should be;
Thus shall it be!"
- Magical chant from "Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi"

"Drizzle, Drazzle, Drozzle, Drome,
Time for this one to come home!"
- Mr. Wizard from "Tooter Turtle"
Re: RATMM dying [message #177310 is a reply to message #177196] Wed, 09 September 2009 00:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bill Livingston

Previously on "Frank TV", Randy Golden wrote:
> On Sep 4, 5:45 pm, "Frank J. Lhota" <FrankLho.NOS...@rcn.com> did
> verily sayeth:
>> Kate wrote:
>>> On Sep 4, 9:07 am, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>> August 4
>>>> August 11
>>>> Augusr 13 (2x)
>>>> August 15
>>>> August 27
>>
>>>> Those are the new threads of August 2009. That's it.
>>
>>> Well, the show has been off the air for 10 years.  There's not much
>>> left to say about it.
>>
>>> Nothing lasts forever.
>>
>> Actually, there is still a lot of post MST3K activities such as Rifftrax
>>   and Cinema Titanic to discuss.
>>
>> More likely, the problem is that Usenet volume is way down. Most ISP's
>> have dropped newsgroup support, fearing lawsuits over copyrighted
>> material and highly illegal binary posts. Be thankful for sites such as
>> Google groups; without them, a lot of people would not even have an
>> opportunity to participate in a newsgroup!
>
> Let alone lurk in one! As long as Google Groups enables invisible
> moral support, RATMM will always have a dedicated audience for the
> intermittent adventures of Jonah, Derek, Elrod, Mr. Nebus and company.

There is that. Another part of the issue is that there are now so
many outlets for this sort of thing. In addition to RATMM, there's
LJ, Facebook, Twitter and even MySpace (ack!), so the fandom thing
gets kind of diluted.

Plus, y'know. we don't sparkle or nothing.

> Randy Golden
> MST Info Club #94720
> (Hi! I'm part of the problem and not the solution!)

Bill L.
Neither leading, following nor getting out of the way.
Re: RATMM dying [message #177312 is a reply to message #177309] Wed, 09 September 2009 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sep 8, 8:13 pm, "Frank J. Lhota" <FrankLho.NOS...@rcn.com> wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago (August 20th to be precise), Rifftrax did a live
> riffing of "Plan Nine From Outer Space", along with an appropriate
> short.

Oh, yes. That was one of the COMIC HIGHLIGHTS OF THE MILLENNIUM, I
think. But what have they done for us LATELY? (But I kid the comic
geniuses! ;-))

> And yes, I did start a thread about the event.

Thank you, Frank J. Lhota!

-Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
Maybe there could be a sequel.... "Plan Ten", maybe?
Re: RATMM dying [message #177313 is a reply to message #177312] Fri, 11 September 2009 01:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bill Livingston

Previously on "Fringe", Doug Elrod <dre1@cornell.edu> wrote:
> On Sep 8, 8:13 pm, "Frank J. Lhota" <FrankLho.NOS...@rcn.com> wrote:
>> A couple of weeks ago (August 20th to be precise), Rifftrax did a live
>> riffing of "Plan Nine From Outer Space", along with an appropriate
>> short.
>
> Oh, yes. That was one of the COMIC HIGHLIGHTS OF THE MILLENNIUM, I
> think. But what have they done for us LATELY?

How soon we forget about Joel & Trace rotating your tires.

>> And yes, I did start a thread about the event.
>
> Thank you, Frank J. Lhota!
>
> -Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
> Maybe there could be a sequel.... "Plan Ten", maybe?

There was an abortive to film "Plan Nine and a Half Weeks", starring
Tor Johnson and Kim Basinger, but they were each too scared of working
with the other, so it went nowhere.

Bill L.
"Tor Can Leave Hat On?"
Re: RATMM dying [message #177314 is a reply to message #177313] Fri, 11 September 2009 02:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Derek Janssen

Bill Livingston wrote:
> Previously on "Fringe", Doug Elrod <dre1@cornell.edu> wrote:
>> On Sep 8, 8:13 pm, "Frank J. Lhota" <FrankLho.NOS...@rcn.com> wrote:
>>> A couple of weeks ago (August 20th to be precise), Rifftrax did a live
>>> riffing of "Plan Nine From Outer Space", along with an appropriate
>>> short.
>>
>> -Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
>> Maybe there could be a sequel.... "Plan Ten", maybe?
>
> There was an abortive to film "Plan Nine and a Half Weeks", starring
> Tor Johnson and Kim Basinger, but they were each too scared of working
> with the other, so it went nowhere.
>
> Bill L.
> "Tor Can Leave Hat On?"

Then again, there's always the Remake:
http://scifiwire.com/2009/09/new-plan-9-teaser-marks-l.php

Derek Janssen (which is either a very subtle parody of post-Michael Bay
remakes, or a very bad backyard-zombie indie that got ideas)
ejanss1@verizon.net
Super, or Alternate versions of MST movies -- Re: RATMM dying [message #177424 is a reply to message #177197] Thu, 17 September 2009 14:40 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: dgates

On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 08:10:59 -0700 (PDT), Reaper G <reaperg@aol.com>
wrote:

> On Sep 4, 9:07?am, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> August 4
>> August 11
>> Augusr 13 (2x)
>> August 15
>> August 27
>>
>> Those are the new threads of August 2009. That's it.
>
> I'd contribute more, but gosh darn it, I've got nothing to contribute.
>
> Always lurking, rarely posting.


I posted a little something, talking about the idea of making "Super"
or "Alternate" versions of a couple MST movies.

I'm actually going to try two of them now:

1. Ultimate Mitchell. All the riffing, minus the host segments, plus
the scenes from Mitchell that weren't in the MST version.

I'm looking forward to restoring the cool dune buggy chase, although
it will sort of weaken the joke where Tom says "Hey, wasn't John Saxon
in this movie?"


2. Ultimate Superdragon. I found a beautiful widescreen print of the
movie, and I don't recall that any of the bot comedy came from
actually *seeing* their silhouettes, so I'm going to see what happens
when I lay the bot comedy over the widescreen movie.

I think I'll restore (or, basically, leave in) the scenes that aren't
in the MST version. There's a cool one where we see the first girl
who falls victim to the deadly chewing gum -- a girl who is only
mentioned in the MST version.

Don't know what I'll do about the host segments. I'll probably keep
them in. Unlike the Mitchell segments, the Superdragon segments are
more closely related to the movie (plus I think they're funnier).


I'm not sure which other titles I would consider doing this with. The
criteria would be:

1. I like the movie.
2. There's a commercial version of the MST version (or at least I can
get one with good audio).
3. There's some reason to do the editing -- probably to restore
missing scenes and/or to get a picture that will look better on our
HDTV.


There! An MST thread! If anyone wants to join in, I'd love to hear
from ya.
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