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Re: Anakin and Vader being two different persons! [message #433] Thu, 12 January 2012 22:43 Go to next message
Eric D is currently offline  Eric D
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Sandman wrote in news:mr-F9C361.16274002022011
@News.Individual.NET:

> Well, think about it, really!
>
> Obi Wan says that Anakin Skywalker was Luke's father and a good friend
> and the best pilot in the galaxy.
>
> Obi Wan also says that Anakin was killed by Vader.
>
> Obi Wan say vader was seduced by the dark side of the force.
>
>
> So, in the prequels, Anakin and Vader are two different persons.
> Everything plays out exactly like Obi Wan says - only, it wasn't
> Anakin that was Lukes father, it was Vader.
>
> So, Anakin and Vader, which may or may not go by different names
> throughout the movies, are rivals in the Jedi order, a lot of tension,
> and the dark side of Vader is an underlying tone throughout the
> trilogy until he finally succumbs to it.
>
> Both have the same love interest, which could be this Amidala chick,
> who is pregnant by the last film, but it is never shown just who got
> her pregnant. The way it plays out, Anakin may be uncertain about him
> being the father, or certain that he would take care of the children
> regardless.
>
> The rivalry between Anakin and Vader culminates with his realization
> that he could be the father of children that Anakin will bring up and
> Anakin is killed in the process.
>
> Obi Wan, the mentor of both, have tried to deal with their feelings
> and when Vader has crossed the lines, hunts him down and kills him, or
> so he thinks.
>
> So the Star Wars saga isn't about the rise and fall of Anakin, it's
> about the dark side finally overtaking the Jedi temple resulting in
> the Jedi purge.
>
> Heck - Obi Wan might not even KNOW that Vader is Lukes and Leias
> father. He may assume that Anakin is since he is the one that takes
> care of them. And Anakin won't say anything about his doubts.
>
> This way, the entire hidden relationshop between Palpatine and Vader
> can be in full force from the first movie. The Jedi council can
> express their doubts about Vader from the start - just like they do
> Anakin, but this time around, the doubts aren't supposed to be mixed
> with the idea that Anakin was a good Jedi and a good friend of Obi
Wan.
>
> Damn, it could have worked.
>
>

I like it. Darkhorse did release alternate-universe comic book series
entitled Star Wars: Infinities "A New Hope", "The Empire Strikes Back",
and "Return of the Jedi." It sounds like you have a great idea for Star
Wars: Infinites for the prequels.
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Re: Anakin and Vader being two different persons! [message #434 is a reply to message #433] Fri, 13 January 2012 05:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sandman is currently offline  Sandman
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In article ,
Eric D wrote:

> Sandman wrote in news:mr-F9C361.16274002022011
> @News.Individual.NET:
>
> > Well, think about it, really!
> >
> > Obi Wan says that Anakin Skywalker was Luke's father and a good friend
> > and the best pilot in the galaxy.
> >
> > Obi Wan also says that Anakin was killed by Vader.
> >
> > Obi Wan say vader was seduced by the dark side of the force.
> >
> >
> > So, in the prequels, Anakin and Vader are two different persons.
> > Everything plays out exactly like Obi Wan says - only, it wasn't
> > Anakin that was Lukes father, it was Vader.
> >
> > So, Anakin and Vader, which may or may not go by different names
> > throughout the movies, are rivals in the Jedi order, a lot of tension,
> > and the dark side of Vader is an underlying tone throughout the
> > trilogy until he finally succumbs to it.
> >
> > Both have the same love interest, which could be this Amidala chick,
> > who is pregnant by the last film, but it is never shown just who got
> > her pregnant. The way it plays out, Anakin may be uncertain about him
> > being the father, or certain that he would take care of the children
> > regardless.
> >
> > The rivalry between Anakin and Vader culminates with his realization
> > that he could be the father of children that Anakin will bring up and
> > Anakin is killed in the process.
> >
> > Obi Wan, the mentor of both, have tried to deal with their feelings
> > and when Vader has crossed the lines, hunts him down and kills him, or
> > so he thinks.
> >
> > So the Star Wars saga isn't about the rise and fall of Anakin, it's
> > about the dark side finally overtaking the Jedi temple resulting in
> > the Jedi purge.
> >
> > Heck - Obi Wan might not even KNOW that Vader is Lukes and Leias
> > father. He may assume that Anakin is since he is the one that takes
> > care of them. And Anakin won't say anything about his doubts.
> >
> > This way, the entire hidden relationshop between Palpatine and Vader
> > can be in full force from the first movie. The Jedi council can
> > express their doubts about Vader from the start - just like they do
> > Anakin, but this time around, the doubts aren't supposed to be mixed
> > with the idea that Anakin was a good Jedi and a good friend of Obi
> Wan.
> >
> > Damn, it could have worked.
> >
> >
>
> I like it. Darkhorse did release alternate-universe comic book series
> entitled Star Wars: Infinities "A New Hope", "The Empire Strikes Back",
> and "Return of the Jedi." It sounds like you have a great idea for Star
> Wars: Infinites for the prequels.

Wow, talk about a blast from the past. That post was written almost a
year ago :)

But yeah, it could have worked :)


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Re: Anakin and Vader being two different persons! [message #435 is a reply to message #434] Sat, 14 January 2012 02:59 Go to previous message
Eric D is currently offline  Eric D
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Sandman wrote in
news:mr-9E83BD.11281513012012@News.Individual.NET:

> Wow, talk about a blast from the past. That post was written almost a
> year ago :)
>
> But yeah, it could have worked :)
>
>

Ah, I never pay attention to post dates.
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