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Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419640 is a reply to message #419639] Wed, 15 March 2023 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andy Burns is currently offline  Andy Burns
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

> they all prototyped in TTL and then sent off specs to Ferranti for a
> ULA (or two) to replace most of the TTL to make the production
> affordable.

I seem to remember NASCOMs used PROMs in a similar way, taking multiple
inputs as address pins and use the data pins as outputs, replacing a
bunch of 74xx or 40xx logic chips?
Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419641 is a reply to message #419632] Wed, 15 March 2023 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2023-03-15, OldbieOne <info@whitexmasradio.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 21:19:06 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> did make
> me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 19:00:33 GMT
>> info@whitexmasradio.com (OldbieOne) wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 16:06:47 +0000, Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> did
>>> make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:
>>>
> Microsoft have never told the truth on system requirements: "640k should be
> enough for anyone" - Bill Gates

AFAIRemember, the early macs needed extra memory to actually do
anything, and I doubt that "the juggler" demo was created in a Amiga 500
>
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Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419642 is a reply to message #419635] Wed, 15 March 2023 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-fcd-this> writes:
> To: snipeco.2
> -=> snipeco.2 wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
>
> sn> OldbieOne <info@whitexmasradio.com> wrote:
>
>> Forte Agent News Reader .99g/32
>
> sn> willy wave: My first Forte Free Agent was 0.37a in early '95.
>
>
> Forte Agent and Eudora Pro 2.2 - that brings back memories. Clients went
> all downhill from there... :)

I'm still using xrn (1989).
Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419643 is a reply to message #419641] Wed, 15 March 2023 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2023-03-15, maus <maus@mail.com> wrote:

> On 2023-03-15, OldbieOne <info@whitexmasradio.com> wrote:
>
>> Microsoft have never told the truth on system requirements:

Or anything else, for that matter.

>> "640k should be enough for anyone" - Bill Gates
>
> AFAIRemember, the early macs needed extra memory to actually do
> anything,

And said extra memory wasn't approved by Apple: "128K should be
enough for anyone." But I do recall mention of the "Mac cracker"
(a tool to open the case), plus instructions for soldering in
extra memory chips to create a 512K "Fat Mac".

> and I doubt that "the juggler" demo was created in a Amiga 500

Probably because the A500 didn't exist yet. :-)

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Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419644 is a reply to message #419635] Wed, 15 March 2023 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 06:55:00 -0700, "Kurt Weiske"
<kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-fcd-this> did make me awaken from my
chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:

> To: snipeco.2
> -=> snipeco.2 wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
>
> sn> OldbieOne <info@whitexmasradio.com> wrote:
>
>> Forte Agent News Reader .99g/32
>
> sn> willy wave: My first Forte Free Agent was 0.37a in early '95.
>
>
> Forte Agent and Eudora Pro 2.2 - that brings back memories. Clients went
> all downhill from there... :)

It's true. Mail and News clients never got any better than those, even though
browsers certainly did.

I miss lightweight but feature rich clients. Sure, newer clients might look
slick and have lots of little animations, but the actual GUI designs and
useability really suck in comparison.


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Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419645 is a reply to message #419639] Wed, 15 March 2023 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 14:50:45 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> did
make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:

> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 14:10:50 GMT
> info@whitexmasradio.com (OldbieOne) wrote:
>
>> Interesting.... thanks Gordon. So the Beeb and varients, and the
>> Sinclair's shared a common ancestor in Ferranti. Did not know that.
>
> Not really an ancestor so much as a common component, they all
> prototyped in TTL and then sent off specs to Ferranti for a ULA (or two) to
> replace most of the TTL to make the production affordable. They all had
> trouble as a result.

So they were all a common design?

> I'm not sure why everyone chose Ferranti at the time, I expect they
> offered more for less than the competition and then failed to deliver it.

I'm sure there were probably also grants available to "Buy British" under
Thatcher's nationalistic programs.

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Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419646 is a reply to message #419641] Wed, 15 March 2023 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 15 Mar 2023 15:24:32 GMT, maus <maus@mail.com> did make me awaken from my
chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:

> On 2023-03-15, OldbieOne <info@whitexmasradio.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 21:19:06 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> did make
>> me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:
>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 19:00:33 GMT
>>> info@whitexmasradio.com (OldbieOne) wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 16:06:47 +0000, Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> did
>>>> make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:
>>>>
>> Microsoft have never told the truth on system requirements: "640k should be
>> enough for anyone" - Bill Gates
>
> AFAIRemember, the early macs needed extra memory to actually do
> anything, and I doubt that "the juggler" demo was created in a Amiga 500

Outside of the graphic design elements, probably not, lol!

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Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419647 is a reply to message #419642] Wed, 15 March 2023 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 15:50:12 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) did make
me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:

> "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-fcd-this> writes:
>> To: snipeco.2
>> -=> snipeco.2 wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
>>
>> sn> OldbieOne <info@whitexmasradio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Forte Agent News Reader .99g/32
>>
>> sn> willy wave: My first Forte Free Agent was 0.37a in early '95.
>>
>>
>> Forte Agent and Eudora Pro 2.2 - that brings back memories. Clients went
>> all downhill from there... :)
>
> I'm still using xrn (1989).

Pretty sure they didn't have a 64-bit client back then though ;)


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Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419648 is a reply to message #419643] Wed, 15 March 2023 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 16:14:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> did
make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:

> On 2023-03-15, maus <maus@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-03-15, OldbieOne <info@whitexmasradio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Microsoft have never told the truth on system requirements:
>
> Or anything else, for that matter.
>
>>> "640k should be enough for anyone" - Bill Gates
>>
>> AFAIRemember, the early macs needed extra memory to actually do
>> anything,
>
> And said extra memory wasn't approved by Apple: "128K should be
> enough for anyone." But I do recall mention of the "Mac cracker"
> (a tool to open the case), plus instructions for soldering in
> extra memory chips to create a 512K "Fat Mac".

So that's what a Fat Mac was! I thought it was some sort of adapter card, but I
never actually had (or seen) a Mac of that vintage, so my assumption was way off
base.

>> and I doubt that "the juggler" demo was created in a Amiga 500
>
> Probably because the A500 didn't exist yet. :-)

Good point

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Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419649 is a reply to message #419647] Wed, 15 March 2023 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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info@whitexmasradio.com (OldbieOne) writes:
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 15:50:12 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) did=
> make
> me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:
>
>> "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-fcd-this> writes:
>>> To: snipeco.2
>>> -=3D> snipeco.2 wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=3D-
>>>
>>> sn> OldbieOne <info@whitexmasradio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Forte Agent News Reader .99g/32
>>>
>>> sn> willy wave: My first Forte Free Agent was 0.37a in early '95.
>>>
>>>
>>> Forte Agent and Eudora Pro 2.2 - that brings back memories. Clients =
> went
>>> all downhill from there... :)
>>
>> I'm still using xrn (1989).
>
> Pretty sure they didn't have a 64-bit client back then though ;)

There were less than a couple of dozen spots in the code that
were not 64-bit clean (using int instead of the appropriate
type for casting pointers, for the most part) - it is open source,
but the original author (Jonathan Kamens) had done the cleanup for 64-bit himself.


https://www.mit.edu/people/jik/software/xrn.html
Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419650 is a reply to message #419645] Wed, 15 March 2023 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 17:58:30 GMT
info@whitexmasradio.com (OldbieOne) wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 14:50:45 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
> <steveo@eircom.net> did make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism
> when they didst announce:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 14:10:50 GMT
>> info@whitexmasradio.com (OldbieOne) wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting.... thanks Gordon. So the Beeb and varients, and the
>>> Sinclair's shared a common ancestor in Ferranti. Did not know that.
>>
>> Not really an ancestor so much as a common component, they all
>> prototyped in TTL and then sent off specs to Ferranti for a ULA (or two)
>> to replace most of the TTL to make the production affordable. They all
>> had trouble as a result.
>
> So they were all a common design?

No they were very different - even if most of them were financed by
the same DOI grant. The ULA - uncommitted logic array - could be set up to
contain almost any circuitry.

> I'm sure there were probably also grants available to "Buy British" under
> Thatcher's nationalistic programs.

Quite possibly - there was a lot of grant chasing going on. Between
loans and grants the founders of Torch turned £30k into £2.5m and went on a
spending spree.

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Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419651 is a reply to message #419648] Wed, 15 March 2023 15:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2023-03-15, OldbieOne <info@whitexmasradio.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 16:14:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> did
> make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:
>
>> On 2023-03-15, maus <maus@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-03-15, OldbieOne <info@whitexmasradio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Microsoft have never told the truth on system requirements:
>>
>> Or anything else, for that matter.
>>
>>>> "640k should be enough for anyone" - Bill Gates
>>>
>>> AFAIRemember, the early macs needed extra memory to actually do
>>> anything,
>>
>> And said extra memory wasn't approved by Apple: "128K should be
>> enough for anyone." But I do recall mention of the "Mac cracker"
>> (a tool to open the case), plus instructions for soldering in
>> extra memory chips to create a 512K "Fat Mac".
>
> So that's what a Fat Mac was! I thought it was some sort of adapter card, but I
> never actually had (or seen) a Mac of that vintage, so my assumption was way off
> base.
>
>>> and I doubt that "the juggler" demo was created in a Amiga 500
>>
>> Probably because the A500 didn't exist yet. :-)
>
> Good point
>
> --

From memory, the A500 needed extra memory to run a spreadsheet.


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Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419652 is a reply to message #419650] Wed, 15 March 2023 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 18:08:20 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> did
make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:

> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 17:58:30 GMT
> info@whitexmasradio.com (OldbieOne) wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 14:50:45 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>> <steveo@eircom.net> did make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism
>> when they didst announce:
>>
>>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 14:10:50 GMT
>>> info@whitexmasradio.com (OldbieOne) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting.... thanks Gordon. So the Beeb and varients, and the
>>>> Sinclair's shared a common ancestor in Ferranti. Did not know that.
>>>
>>> Not really an ancestor so much as a common component, they all
>>> prototyped in TTL and then sent off specs to Ferranti for a ULA (or two)
>>> to replace most of the TTL to make the production affordable. They all
>>> had trouble as a result.
>>
>> So they were all a common design?
>
> No they were very different - even if most of them were financed by
> the same DOI grant. The ULA - uncommitted logic array - could be set up to
> contain almost any circuitry.

So possibly the forerunner of the modern FPGA?

>> I'm sure there were probably also grants available to "Buy British" under
>> Thatcher's nationalistic programs.
>
> Quite possibly - there was a lot of grant chasing going on. Between
> loans and grants the founders of Torch turned A?30k into A?2.5m and went on a
> spending spree.

I regret being a tad too young to have ridden that gravy train, lol!


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Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419653 is a reply to message #419649] Wed, 15 March 2023 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 18:20:16 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) did make
me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:

> info@whitexmasradio.com (OldbieOne) writes:
>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 15:50:12 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) did=
>> make
>> me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:
>>
>>> "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-fcd-this> writes:
>>>> To: snipeco.2
>>>> -=3D> snipeco.2 wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=3D-
>>>>
>>>> sn> OldbieOne <info@whitexmasradio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Forte Agent News Reader .99g/32
>>>>
>>>> sn> willy wave: My first Forte Free Agent was 0.37a in early '95.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Forte Agent and Eudora Pro 2.2 - that brings back memories. Clients =
>> went
>>>> all downhill from there... :)
>>>
>>> I'm still using xrn (1989).
>>
>> Pretty sure they didn't have a 64-bit client back then though ;)
>
> There were less than a couple of dozen spots in the code that
> were not 64-bit clean (using int instead of the appropriate
> type for casting pointers, for the most part) - it is open source,
> but the original author (Jonathan Kamens) had done the cleanup for 64-bit himself.

Impressive level of development!

> https://www.mit.edu/people/jik/software/xrn.html

Thanks for the info. I'll have to go play with this on my Slackware box now :)


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Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419656 is a reply to message #419652] Wed, 15 March 2023 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 19:54:36 GMT
info@whitexmasradio.com (OldbieOne) wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 18:08:20 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot

>> the same DOI grant. The ULA - uncommitted logic array - could be set up
>> to contain almost any circuitry.
>
> So possibly the forerunner of the modern FPGA?

Yes, the big difference being the F (or lack thereof), the ULAs
were factory programmed with a final mask like masked ROMs.

>> loans and grants the founders of Torch turned A?30k into A?2.5m and went
>> on a spending spree.
>
> I regret being a tad too young to have ridden that gravy train, lol!

They eventually got ordered to return the toys (which were leased I
think) including the Rolls, Lotus and Cessna - but it was fun while it
lasted.

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On 15 Mar 2023 19:40:46 GMT, maus <maus@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2023-03-15, OldbieOne <info@whitexmasradio.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 16:14:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> did
>> make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:
>>
>>> On 2023-03-15, maus <maus@mail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2023-03-15, OldbieOne <info@whitexmasradio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Microsoft have never told the truth on system requirements:
>>>
>>> Or anything else, for that matter.
>>>
>>>> > "640k should be enough for anyone" - Bill Gates
>>>>
>>>> AFAIRemember, the early macs needed extra memory to actually do
>>>> anything,
>>>
>>> And said extra memory wasn't approved by Apple: "128K should be
>>> enough for anyone." But I do recall mention of the "Mac cracker"
>>> (a tool to open the case), plus instructions for soldering in
>>> extra memory chips to create a 512K "Fat Mac".
>>
>> So that's what a Fat Mac was! I thought it was some sort of adapter card, but I
>> never actually had (or seen) a Mac of that vintage, so my assumption was way off
>> base.
>>
>>>> and I doubt that "the juggler" demo was created in a Amiga 500
>>>
>>> Probably because the A500 didn't exist yet. :-)
>>
>> Good point
>>
>> --
>
> From memory, the A500 needed extra memory to run a spreadsheet.

I didn't have to add any memory to run my copy of Lotus 1-2-3 for my
Amiga computer. It had a caution in the owner's manual. Don't go below
a certain row as the MS-DOS version couldn't import those rows.

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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 21:08:57 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> did
make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:

> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 19:54:36 GMT
> info@whitexmasradio.com (OldbieOne) wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 18:08:20 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>
>>> the same DOI grant. The ULA - uncommitted logic array - could be set up
>>> to contain almost any circuitry.
>>
>> So possibly the forerunner of the modern FPGA?
>
> Yes, the big difference being the F (or lack thereof), the ULAs
> were factory programmed with a final mask like masked ROMs.

Makes perfect sense.

>>> loans and grants the founders of Torch turned A?30k into A?2.5m and went
>>> on a spending spree.
>>
>> I regret being a tad too young to have ridden that gravy train, lol!
>
> They eventually got ordered to return the toys (which were leased I
> think) including the Rolls, Lotus and Cessna - but it was fun while it
> lasted.

Closest I came was with My Rolls Canardly. Rolls down hill, can 'ardly get up
them ;)



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Re: The MicroAce, the Jupiter Ace, and? [message #419672 is a reply to message #419570] Thu, 16 March 2023 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Vir Campestris

On 11/03/2023 00:13, OldbieOne wrote:

>
> Or do you possibly mean the short-lived TRS-80 based Dragon 32? I know that was
> sold here as a Tano Dragon. It had red on it but not red keys though.
>
I have fond memories of my Dragon. I really liked the 6809.

But nothing like anything Sinclair had at the time.

Andy
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 16:52:59 +0000, Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 11/03/2023 00:13, OldbieOne wrote:
>
>>
>> Or do you possibly mean the short-lived TRS-80 based Dragon 32? I know that was
>> sold here as a Tano Dragon. It had red on it but not red keys though.
>>
> I have fond memories of my Dragon. I really liked the 6809.
>
> But nothing like anything Sinclair had at the time.

Yep the 6809 was pretty nice. The thing that let the Dragon down was
that it was just upper-case in text mode, and the graphics were not
really all that good for the gamers. Also ISTR that OS9 was delayed
quite a while as was the Dragon 64 (we got it in the UK later than the
US).

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On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 16:52:59 +0000, Vir Campestris
<vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> did make me awaken from my chaotic
existentialism when they didst announce:

> On 11/03/2023 00:13, OldbieOne wrote:
>
>>
>> Or do you possibly mean the short-lived TRS-80 based Dragon 32? I know that was
>> sold here as a Tano Dragon. It had red on it but not red keys though.
>>
> I have fond memories of my Dragon. I really liked the 6809.
>
> But nothing like anything Sinclair had at the time.

I saw quite a few old hams with Dragons for SSTV and RTTY in UK,
but few used Sinclair, despite the plethora of ham radio programs for it.

I seem to recall it had something to do with the fact the Sinclair cases offered
no shielding since my father sprayed the inside of my 48k Speccy with a
metalized paint, and grounded it to the negative terminal of the power supply.



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