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Option to cut off digits in old Fortran compiler [message #416323] Tue, 23 August 2022 16:36 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: Thomas Koenig

[x-post, f'up]

When I worked on a Siemens/Fujitsu mainframe running BS3000, an MVS
clone, the Fortran 77 compiler had a switch to reduce the accuracy
of floating point calculations in order to find numerical problems.

The compiler closely followed IBM Fortran compilers (little
surprise there), even in debatable things like the AT statement,
a variant of COME FROM, but only for debugging. I wonder how
many programs only worked with this enabled... but I digress.

Did Fujitsu copy the precision reducdtion feature from IBM?
Re: Option to cut off digits in old Fortran compiler [message #416324 is a reply to message #416323] Tue, 23 August 2022 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Levine is currently offline  John Levine
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According to Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>:
w>Did Fujitsu copy the precision reducdtion feature from IBM?

Maybe. The 360/44 had a knob on the console to control how many digits
long floating point used. They said it was to speed up calculations.


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Re: Option to cut off digits in old Fortran compiler [message #416326 is a reply to message #416323] Wed, 24 August 2022 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: gareth evans

On 23/08/2022 21:36, Thomas Koenig wrote:
> [x-post, f'up]
>
> When I worked on a Siemens/Fujitsu mainframe running BS3000, an MVS
> clone, the Fortran 77 compiler had a switch to reduce the accuracy
> of floating point calculations in order to find numerical problems.
>
> The compiler closely followed IBM Fortran compilers (little
> surprise there), even in debatable things like the AT statement,
> a variant of COME FROM, but only for debugging. I wonder how
> many programs only worked with this enabled... but I digress.
>
> Did Fujitsu copy the precision reducdtion feature from IBM?
>

Wasn't Fujitsu the supplier to the Brit Post Office of the
Horizon computer system where a multitude of numerical
inaccuracies resulted in a large number of innocent
postmasters being prosecuted for fraud?
Re: Option to cut off digits in old Fortran compiler [message #416328 is a reply to message #416326] Wed, 24 August 2022 09:30 Go to previous message
Andy Leighton is currently offline  Andy Leighton
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 12:26:12 +0100, gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 23/08/2022 21:36, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>> [x-post, f'up]
>>
>> When I worked on a Siemens/Fujitsu mainframe running BS3000, an MVS
>> clone, the Fortran 77 compiler had a switch to reduce the accuracy
>> of floating point calculations in order to find numerical problems.
>>
>> The compiler closely followed IBM Fortran compilers (little
>> surprise there), even in debatable things like the AT statement,
>> a variant of COME FROM, but only for debugging. I wonder how
>> many programs only worked with this enabled... but I digress.
>>
>> Did Fujitsu copy the precision reducdtion feature from IBM?
>>
>
> Wasn't Fujitsu the supplier to the Brit Post Office of the
> Horizon computer system where a multitude of numerical
> inaccuracies resulted in a large number of innocent
> postmasters being prosecuted for fraud?

Yes - and they have so far escaped litigation over it.

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