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lemon64.com down [message #402884] Wed, 16 December 2020 03:00 Go to next message
Tristan Miller is currently offline  Tristan Miller
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Greetings.

The Lemon64 site at https://www.lemon64.com/ seems to have been down for
some time now -- a day, at least, or possibly longer. Does anyone know
the reason? Has the site been abandoned?

Regards,
Tristan

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Re: lemon64.com down [message #402894 is a reply to message #402884] Wed, 16 December 2020 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Lawrence Woodman

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:00:43 +0100, Tristan Miller wrote:

> The Lemon64 site at https://www.lemon64.com/ seems to have been down for
> some time now -- a day, at least, or possibly longer. Does anyone know
> the reason? Has the site been abandoned?


Unfortunately lemon64 and lemonAmiga both got hacked. I understand they
are dealing with it as we speak. It's always a shame when hackers target
a website but particularly so when it's a hobby site like this.

Best wishes


Lorry

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Re: lemon64.com down [message #402895 is a reply to message #402894] Wed, 16 December 2020 08:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tristan Miller is currently offline  Tristan Miller
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Greetings.

On 16/12/2020 14.34, Lawrence Woodman wrote:
>> The Lemon64 site at https://www.lemon64.com/ seems to have been down for
>> some time now -- a day, at least, or possibly longer. Does anyone know
>> the reason? Has the site been abandoned?
>
> Unfortunately lemon64 and lemonAmiga both got hacked. I understand they
> are dealing with it as we speak. It's always a shame when hackers target
> a website but particularly so when it's a hobby site like this.


I see! That's unfortunate. May I ask where you're getting this
information from? Is there some other website or social media feed I
can check for updates?

Regards,
Tristan

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Re: lemon64.com down [message #402896 is a reply to message #402895] Wed, 16 December 2020 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Lawrence Woodman

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:42:41 +0100, Tristan Miller wrote:

> On 16/12/2020 14.34, Lawrence Woodman wrote:
>>> The Lemon64 site at https://www.lemon64.com/ seems to have been down for
>>> some time now -- a day, at least, or possibly longer. Does anyone know
>>> the reason? Has the site been abandoned?
>>
>> Unfortunately lemon64 and lemonAmiga both got hacked. I understand they
>> are dealing with it as we speak. It's always a shame when hackers target
>> a website but particularly so when it's a hobby site like this.
>
>
> I see! That's unfortunate. May I ask where you're getting this
> information from? Is there some other website or social media feed I
> can check for updates?


It was reported by @AmigaLOve on twitter:
https://twitter.com/AmigaL0ve/status/1339014484216532992



Lorry

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Re: lemon64.com down [message #403243 is a reply to message #402884] Mon, 28 December 2020 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: B

On 2020-12-21, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:00:43 +0100, Tristan Miller wrote:
>>
>> The Lemon64 site at https://www.lemon64.com/ seems to have been down for
>> some time now -- a day, at least, or possibly longer. Does anyone know
>> the reason? Has the site been abandoned?
>
> Apparently hacked, as already mentioned.
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/c64/comments/kd3y94/is_lemon_64_dow n/
>
> | This really burns me that some asshole did this - especially to
> | hobbiest websites that have no financial gain for the attacker.
>
> Probably by a fanatic ATARI user. ;-)

It's more likely the owner has not cared about security
for many years and as a result the sites got hacked by
bots. Let's hope the Swedish data protection agency has
mercy on him, or rather not.
Re: lemon64.com down [message #403291 is a reply to message #402884] Tue, 29 December 2020 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: kevin

On 28/12/2020 21:14, bliep@Your.Bathroom wrote to All:

-> It's more likely the owner has not cared about security
-> for many years and as a result the sites got hacked by
-> bots. Let's hope the Swedish data protection agency has
-> mercy on him, or rather not.

It's not always the fault of the site that has the PHP script (even though PHP Board
software is pretty leaky), one of my sites got taken down because another user on the
cluster had an insecure script on their account. This was also compounded my my ex-
webhost having pretty shitty security.

From what I understand some actor got root access, so I would put that in the hands of
their webhost EIG - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurance_International_Group

-Kevin
Re: lemon64.com down [message #403418 is a reply to message #403291] Thu, 31 December 2020 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: B

On 2020-12-29, Kevin <kevin@bbs.ec> wrote:
> On 28/12/2020 21:14, bliep@Your.Bathroom wrote to All:
>
> -> It's more likely the owner has not cared about security
> -> for many years and as a result the sites got hacked by
> -> bots. Let's hope the Swedish data protection agency has
> -> mercy on him, or rather not.
>
> It's not always the fault of the site that has the PHP
> script (even though PHP Board software is pretty
> leaky), one of my sites got taken down because another
> user on the cluster had an insecure script on their
> account. This was also compounded my my ex- webhost
> having pretty shitty security.
>
> From what I understand some actor got root access, so I
> would put that in the hands of their webhost EIG -
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurance_International_Group
>
> -Kevin

Lemon can't talk his way out of what he behaved himself
into.

The blame game doesn't work, since the webhost is in no
way responsible for the PII gathetered and processed by
lemon, nor the protection thereof. Lemon knows that
there are more secure solutions available to store and
process PII. Yet, he chose not to move to more secure
solutions. But, seriously, using a shared webhosting
service to store PII does not favour Lemon and would even
even argue that he is at fault. The GDPR is very clear
about the measures one should take for the protection
of PII.

I'm sure that lemon is taking care of all this together
with the Swedish data protection agency, external
security auditors and his laywers.
Re: lemon64.com down [message #403422 is a reply to message #403418] Thu, 31 December 2020 10:24 Go to previous message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Lawrence Woodman

On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 12:42:38 +0000, B wrote:

> Lemon can't talk his way out of what he behaved himself
> into.

I just wanted to gently remind you that lemon64 is essentially a hobbyist
effort and while they may make a little money from their merchandise and
what have you, I would imagine it is pretty minimal. A little kindness
would go a long way here. It is unrealistic to expect them to have the
expertise and knowledge of a more professional business. As far as the
GDPR and similar laws are concerned the main thing now is that they
report it properly and possibly also how we as a community may be able
to help.

Best wishes


Lorry

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