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Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook [message #382227] Tue, 19 March 2019 17:04 Go to next message
RobertB is currently offline  RobertB
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Just released is the "Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook: 2019 Survival Edition" by Margaret Gorts Morabito. Recommended by CBM engineer Bil Herd with a foreword from him, the book is both for C128 beginner and pro, telling about the basics of usage and updating about the newest developments for this computer.

To order the book or the Kindle version, go to

https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Commodore-Personal-Computer-H andbook/dp/1090260814?fbclid=IwAR0aGwEsGTOGvJVzhC_J3ON8QgBvi zLD-hn88Bn5cjS9r6e4Wr_0bVNTV0U

I'm getting mine,
Robert Bernardo
April 27-28 Commodore Los Angeles Super Show - http://www.portcommodore.com/class
June 8-9 Pacific Commodore Expo NW - http://www.portcommodore.com/pacommex
August 10-11 Commodore Vegas Expo v15 - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex
Re: Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook [message #382241 is a reply to message #382227] Wed, 20 March 2019 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 5:04:01 PM UTC-4, rber...@iglou.com wrote:
> Just released is the "Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook: 2019 Survival Edition" by Margaret Gorts Morabito. Recommended by CBM engineer Bil Herd with a foreword from him, the book is both for C128 beginner and pro, telling about the basics of usage and updating about the newest developments for this computer.
>
> To order the book or the Kindle version, go to
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Commodore-Personal-Computer-H andbook/dp/1090260814?fbclid=IwAR0aGwEsGTOGvJVzhC_J3ON8QgBvi zLD-hn88Bn5cjS9r6e4Wr_0bVNTV0U
>
> I'm getting mine,
> Robert Bernardo
> April 27-28 Commodore Los Angeles Super Show - http://www.portcommodore.com/class
> June 8-9 Pacific Commodore Expo NW - http://www.portcommodore.com/pacommex
> August 10-11 Commodore Vegas Expo v15 - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex

Just bought mine. It was cheap enough that I couldn't resist. About time the C128 got some more love.
Re: Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook [message #382260 is a reply to message #382227] Wed, 20 March 2019 23:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Keith

I'm sorry but you are thirty years too late. Do any real
commodore 128's even boot up today?


On 2019-03-19, rbernardo@iglou.com <rbernardo@iglou.com> wrote:
> Just released is the "Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook: 2019 Survival Edition" by Margaret Gorts Morabito. Recommended by CBM engineer Bil Herd with a foreword from him, the book is both for C128 beginner and pro, telling about the basics of usage and updating about the newest developments for this computer.
>
> To order the book or the Kindle version, go to
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Commodore-Personal-Computer-H andbook/dp/1090260814?fbclid=IwAR0aGwEsGTOGvJVzhC_J3ON8QgBvi zLD-hn88Bn5cjS9r6e4Wr_0bVNTV0U
>
> I'm getting mine,
> Robert Bernardo
> April 27-28 Commodore Los Angeles Super Show - http://www.portcommodore.com/class
> June 8-9 Pacific Commodore Expo NW - http://www.portcommodore.com/pacommex
> August 10-11 Commodore Vegas Expo v15 - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex
Re: Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook [message #382279 is a reply to message #382260] Thu, 21 March 2019 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: pierpaolo.pierozzi

Il giorno giovedì 21 marzo 2019 04:00:15 UTC+1, Keith ha scritto:
> I'm sorry but you are thirty years too late. Do any real
> commodore 128's even boot up today?
>
>
> On 2019-03-19, rbernardo@iglou.com <rbernardo@iglou.com> wrote:
>> Just released is the "Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook: 2019 Survival Edition" by Margaret Gorts Morabito. Recommended by CBM engineer Bil Herd with a foreword from him, the book is both for C128 beginner and pro, telling about the basics of usage and updating about the newest developments for this computer.
>>
>> To order the book or the Kindle version, go to
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Commodore-Personal-Computer-H andbook/dp/1090260814?fbclid=IwAR0aGwEsGTOGvJVzhC_J3ON8QgBvi zLD-hn88Bn5cjS9r6e4Wr_0bVNTV0U
>>
>> I'm getting mine,
>> Robert Bernardo
>> April 27-28 Commodore Los Angeles Super Show - http://www.portcommodore..com/class
>> June 8-9 Pacific Commodore Expo NW - http://www.portcommodore.com/pacommex
>> August 10-11 Commodore Vegas Expo v15 - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex

Mine boots and works perfectly.
Re: Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook [message #382289 is a reply to message #382260] Thu, 21 March 2019 16:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 11:00:15 PM UTC-4, Keith wrote:
> I'm sorry but you are thirty years too late. Do any real
> commodore 128's even boot up today?
>
>
> On 2019-03-19, rbernardo@iglou.com <rbernardo@iglou.com> wrote:
>> Just released is the "Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook: 2019 Survival Edition" by Margaret Gorts Morabito. Recommended by CBM engineer Bil Herd with a foreword from him, the book is both for C128 beginner and pro, telling about the basics of usage and updating about the newest developments for this computer.
>>
>> To order the book or the Kindle version, go to
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Commodore-Personal-Computer-H andbook/dp/1090260814?fbclid=IwAR0aGwEsGTOGvJVzhC_J3ON8QgBvi zLD-hn88Bn5cjS9r6e4Wr_0bVNTV0U
>>
>> I'm getting mine,
>> Robert Bernardo
>> April 27-28 Commodore Los Angeles Super Show - http://www.portcommodore..com/class
>> June 8-9 Pacific Commodore Expo NW - http://www.portcommodore.com/pacommex
>> August 10-11 Commodore Vegas Expo v15 - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex

I have two C128'2 and a C128D. All three of them work perfectly.
Re: Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook [message #382301 is a reply to message #382260] Thu, 21 March 2019 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 03:00:14 -0000 (UTC), Keith
<kilowattradio1@gmail.com.REMOVE> wrote:

> I'm sorry but you are thirty years too late. Do any real
> commodore 128's even boot up today?

Of course they do. Not any different then all the many C64 computers
still booting up. My 128 has had no issues.

Also, thirty years too late? Well, we might as well shut down all the
Commodore related sites, forums, and quit releasing/developing all the
many new software and hardware that's out there for the C64 to the VIC
20 to the C128 and go home then.

Jason
Re: Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook [message #382309 is a reply to message #382301] Thu, 21 March 2019 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Keith

On 2019-03-21, J Robertson <jkr7@juno.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 03:00:14 -0000 (UTC), Keith
> <kilowattradio1@gmail.com.REMOVE> wrote:

>> I'm sorry but you are thirty years too late. Do any real
>> commodore 128's even boot up today?

> Of course they do. Not any different then all the many C64 computers
> still booting up. My 128 has had no issues.

> Also, thirty years too late? Well, we might as well shut down all the
> Commodore related sites, forums, and quit releasing/developing all the
> many new software and hardware that's out there for the C64 to the VIC
> 20 to the C128 and go home then.

> Jason

Today I play games on VICE in Linux. Do you use the C= computers
for anything productive? I used to use a C=64 in my business
distributing newspapers, writing college papers and selling
electronics via mail order.
Re: Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook [message #382429 is a reply to message #382227] Mon, 25 March 2019 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 5:04:01 PM UTC-4, rber...@iglou.com wrote:
> Just released is the "Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook: 2019 Survival Edition" by Margaret Gorts Morabito. Recommended by CBM engineer Bil Herd with a foreword from him, the book is both for C128 beginner and pro, telling about the basics of usage and updating about the newest developments for this computer.
>
> To order the book or the Kindle version, go to
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Commodore-Personal-Computer-H andbook/dp/1090260814?fbclid=IwAR0aGwEsGTOGvJVzhC_J3ON8QgBvi zLD-hn88Bn5cjS9r6e4Wr_0bVNTV0U
>
> I'm getting mine,
> Robert Bernardo
> April 27-28 Commodore Los Angeles Super Show - http://www.portcommodore.com/class
> June 8-9 Pacific Commodore Expo NW - http://www.portcommodore.com/pacommex
> August 10-11 Commodore Vegas Expo v15 - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex


About the book...

I received mine Saturday. I haven't read all of it yet, but it seems to be pretty good so far. However, I do have to say it's not as good as the Apple II Reference Guide that was released a few years ago.

But, for the money, it's a pretty good deal. Especially since there aren't many C128 books around...not to mention NEW books about the C128. So definitely worth getting.

I do have one quibble with something I read so far. In the book, the author compares the C128 to the Apple IIc. The author compares the two computers and one thing she says is that the C128 has expandable memory but the IIc does not.

This is not correct. There were several memory expansion devices for the IIc. In fact, I have one. I admit, however, that expanding the memory in the C128 is easy as cake (you just plug the REU (or cart) in). The IIc was more difficult. But not impossible. The hardest part is taking the case apart. Once you pop the top of the case off, the rest is pretty easy.

The expansion card I have for the IIc has 512KiB of RAM, a RTC and even a Z80 processor for CP/M. It's just a card that goes into the CPU socket.

Anyway, just a minor quibble.
Re: Vintage Commodore 128 Personal Computer Handbook [message #382455 is a reply to message #382260] Mon, 25 March 2019 23:15 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: Pinku Basudei

On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 03:00:14 -0000 (UTC)
Keith <kilowattradio1@gmail.com.REMOVE> wrote:

> I'm sorry but you are thirty years too late. Do any real
> commodore 128's even boot up today?
>
>

I regularly "call" a BBS in Sweden (Antidote BBS telnet://antidote.triad.se port 64128) that I believe is run on a real, living C128. Don't remember if it's a D model or not.

--

/ Pinku
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