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Get my C128/C64 on FIDO [message #371279] Thu, 26 July 2018 02:26 Go to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: nospam.Andreas.Dissel

Hi, all.

After a "hundred years" I got me a C128 and I would like to read my fido
mail with it. Is there a way to do that? Maybe download the messages with
linux, make a qwk out of it and then read it with QWKRR on the C128? After
all, I realized, that I don't have a hunch about fido, so any starting
point would be great. Back then I left the scene before fido was a thing,
so I'm quit old... :-D

Thanks a lot for your help.
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FIDO [message #371311 is a reply to message #371279] Thu, 26 July 2018 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Grant Taylor

On 07/26/2018 12:26 AM, Andreas Dissel wrote:
> Hi, all.

Hi,

> After a "hundred years" I got me a C128 and I would like to read my fido
> mail with it. Is there a way to do that? Maybe download the messages
> with linux, make a qwk out of it and then read it with QWKRR on the
> C128? After all, I realized, that I don't have a hunch about fido, so
> any starting point would be great. Back then I left the scene before
> fido was a thing, so I'm quit old... :-D

I know virtually nothing about BBSs or FidoNet (or FTNs in general), so
please correct me if I'm wrong.

Your statement, "I would like to read my fido mail" makes me think that
you want email, which I believe is tied to a specific BBS. Or at least
a specific BBS at the FidoNet node address.

This makes me think that connecting to any random BBS with your C128
won't do what you want.

Or are you talking about reading posts to echos? I think that could be
done by connecting to any random BBS that does carry that echo and have
history going back that far.

> Thanks a lot for your help.

I suspect I wasn't much help.

But I would appreciate if anyone can help educate me on what and where
I'm wrong in my understanding.



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FIDO [message #371312 is a reply to message #371279] Thu, 26 July 2018 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Grant Taylor

On 07/26/2018 02:35 PM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> Do you still have your modem? Should be possible then to find a BBS in
> your area which might still has a FIDO feed.

Depending on where the OP lives, I'd be somewhat surprised if there is
still an active BBS with a dial up modem in the area. I believe they
are few and far in between in the US. I think some countries still have
a more dense population of BBSs.

That being said, I think there is a resurgence of new BBSs that start as
telnet (or SSH) and then add modem support. I don't know how many of
these boards are joining FidoNet.

> I also saw some videos on YouTube connecting a C64 (and so probably a
> C128) with some additional hardware and crazy cable setup to the internet.

I wonder if that was a WiFi232 with the proper cables and / or adapters
to connect to a C64 or C128.

I think the WiFi232 is an impressive little device that gateways between
AT commands and IP connected telnet enabled BBSs. (Or really anything
that you can telnet to.)



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unix || die
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FIDO [message #371348 is a reply to message #371279] Thu, 26 July 2018 20:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: nospam.Andreas.Dissel

Thanks for your answer.

> Do you still have your modem? Should be possible then to find a BBS in
> your area which might still has a FIDO feed.
Going the BBS way would be the easiest for now.
But I wondered if I have e.g. blinkd and husky working on linux will I get
qwk files out of that or if not, is there a reader for c64/128 for this
format?

> I also saw some videos on YouTube connecting a C64 (and so probably a
> C128) with some additional hardware and crazy cable setup to the internet.
Yes, I have that working.
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FIDO [message #371365 is a reply to message #371348] Sat, 28 July 2018 03:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Grant Taylor

On 07/26/2018 06:00 PM, Andreas Dissel wrote:
> Going the BBS way would be the easiest for now.

Agreed.

> But I wondered if I have e.g. blinkd and husky working on linux will I
> get qwk files out of that or if not,

Aren't blinkd and husky effectively FTN daemons for Linux? Doesn't that
mean that you will need to establish your new BBS as part of FidoNet to
receive echos and email?

> is there a reader for c64/128 for this format?

I have no idea if there is a QWK reader for C64 or C128. I guess you'd
be downloading those from a BBS, possibly your to be built BBS.



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FIDO [message #371366 is a reply to message #371348] Sat, 28 July 2018 03:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Grant Taylor

On 07/26/2018 06:00 PM, Andreas Dissel wrote:
> is there a reader for c64/128 for this format?

It looks like QWKRR128 is an option.

Link - QWKRR128 v5.10
-
http://commodore.software/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&am p;view=download&id=897:qwkrr128-v5-10&catid=142& Itemid=126

Older versions of QWKRR128.

Link - Files under /pub/cbm/c128 (Search the page for QWKRR.)
- http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/c128/ALLFILES.html



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FIDO [message #371381 is a reply to message #371279] Sat, 28 July 2018 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: robert.wolfe

-> After a "hundred years" I got me a C128 and I would like to read my
-> fido
-> mail with it. Is there a way to do that? Maybe download the messages
-> linux, make a qwk out of it and then read it with QWKRR on the C128?
-> all, I realized, that I don't have a hunch about fido, so any startin
-> point would be great. Back then I left the scene before fido was a th
-> so I'm quit old... :-D

Not a problem :) On the BBS I am replying to this message from (one of
mine) I carry Fido and Usenet newsgroups :) Granted wildcat.uuhec.net
runs a DOS-based package with some telnet server shims and I pull
newsgroups and email via a UUCP connection, but it all works well
together :)
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FI [message #371382 is a reply to message #371279] Sat, 28 July 2018 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: robert.wolfe

-> > After a "hundred years" I got me a C128 and I would like to read my
-> > mail with it. Is there a way to do that? Maybe download the message
-> > linux, make a qwk out of it and then read it with QWKRR on the C128
-> > all, I realized, that I don't have a hunch about fido, so any start
-> > point would be great. Back then I left the scene before fido was a
-> > so I'm quit old... :-D
-> >
-> > Thanks a lot for your help.
->
-> Do you still have your modem? Should be possible then to find a BBS i
-> your area which might still has a FIDO feed.

Sadly, coming by one of these anymore can be difficult.
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FIDO [message #371403 is a reply to message #371348] Sat, 28 July 2018 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 12:00:00 +1200, Andreas Dissel wrote:
>
> Thanks for your answer.
>
>> Do you still have your modem? Should be possible then to find a BBS in
>> your area which might still has a FIDO feed.
> Going the BBS way would be the easiest for now.
> But I wondered if I have e.g. blinkd and husky working on linux will I get
> qwk files out of that or if not, is there a reader for c64/128 for this
> format?

Do you have the files on a physical floppy disk? Then Catweasel
< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_Computers_Catweasel> might
help.

If you have them already as file image I think MAME has a tool to convert
several image (floppy) files into others.
--
Andreas

My random toughts and comments
https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FIDO [message #371580 is a reply to message #371366] Thu, 02 August 2018 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: nospam.Andreas.Dissel

> On 07/26/2018 06:00 PM, Andreas Dissel wrote:
>> is there a reader for c64/128 for this format?

> It looks like QWKRR128 is an option.
Yes, that's a good one.
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FIDO [message #371581 is a reply to message #371365] Thu, 02 August 2018 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: nospam.Andreas.Dissel

> Aren't blinkd and husky effectively FTN daemons for Linux? Doesn't that
> mean that you will need to establish your new BBS as part of FidoNet to
> receive echos and email?
Yes, that's Linux. I"ll not setup new BBS. So husky is not for me. I
cancel this approach.
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FIDO [message #371582 is a reply to message #371403] Thu, 02 August 2018 21:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Karma:
Originally posted by: nospam.Andreas.Dissel

> Do you have the files on a physical floppy disk? Then Catweasel
> < https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_Computers_Catweasel> might
> help.
Catweasel looks nice. I'll bookmark, but is not needed in the moment.
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FIDO [message #371583 is a reply to message #371381] Thu, 02 August 2018 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: nospam.Andreas.Dissel

> Not a problem :) On the BBS I am replying to this message from (one of
> mine) I carry Fido and Usenet newsgroups :) Granted wildcat.uuhec.net
> runs a DOS-based package with some telnet server shims and I pull
> newsgroups and email via a UUCP connection, but it all works well
> together :)

This sounds great. Can you give me some more info on that? Maybe I can
setup this by myself...
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FIDO [message #371584 is a reply to message #371311] Thu, 02 August 2018 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Karma:
Originally posted by: nospam.Andreas.Dissel

> Your statement, "I would like to read my fido mail" makes me think that
> you want email, which I believe is tied to a specific BBS. Or at least
> a specific BBS at the FidoNet node address.

> This makes me think that connecting to any random BBS with your C128
> won't do what you want.

Yes, you're right. The BBS way is not 100% tied to my point.
For now, I think, I'll download the QWK from my BBS and later I maybe
setup this UUCP thing...
Re: Get my C128/C64 on FI [message #371601 is a reply to message #371381] Fri, 03 August 2018 15:03 Go to previous message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: robert.wolfe

-> From: nospam.Andreas.Dissel@p8.f8001.n240.z2.binkp.net (Andreas Disse
-> Subject: Re: Get my C128/C64 on FIDO
->
-> > Not a problem :) On the BBS I am replying to this message from
-> (one of > mine) I carry Fido and Usenet newsgroups :) Granted
-> wildcat.uuhec.net > runs a DOS-based package with some telnet server
-> shims and I pull
-> > newsgroups and email via a UUCP connection, but it all works well
-> > together :)
->
-> This sounds great. Can you give me some more info on that? Maybe I
-> can setup this by myself...

My BBS can be reached via telnet at winserver.org.
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