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Comics that continue a series... [message #97077] Sat, 21 April 2012 10:11 Go to next message
Duggy is currently offline  Duggy
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We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves
as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new
season):

- Buffy (Season 9)
- Jericho (Season 4)

What other comics continue on a series?

Not tie-in comics released during the series or that tell stories
within the series... but rather comics that start after a series has
ended as a continuation of the series? And a comic is disqualified
from this game if a new series, telemovie, film, etc, came out after.

And have any others been named as explicitedly as the above two?

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Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97079 is a reply to message #97077] Sat, 21 April 2012 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
<p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

> season):

>

> - Buffy (Season 9)

> - Jericho (Season 4)

>

> What other comics continue on a series?


"Smallville"
Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97080 is a reply to message #97079] Sat, 21 April 2012 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <80p5p7t0ad3tr01o1vlrhg4qbucmuv46hm@4ax.com>,
David <dimlan17@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

> <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

>> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

>> season):

>>

>> - Buffy (Season 9)

>> - Jericho (Season 4)

>>

>> What other comics continue on a series?

>

> "Smallville"


One awful issue so far ...

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Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97140 is a reply to message #97080] Mon, 23 April 2012 13:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/21/2012 4:58 PM:
> In article<80p5p7t0ad3tr01o1vlrhg4qbucmuv46hm@4ax.com>,

> David<dimlan17@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

>> <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

>>> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

>>> season):

>>>

>>> - Buffy (Season 9)

>>> - Jericho (Season 4)

>>>

>>> What other comics continue on a series?

>>

>> "Smallville"

>

> One awful issue so far ...


Really. Seriously, why bother? Maybe six panels' worth of plotting
stretched into a seriously lame effort. If this was intended as a
sincere effort to whet people's appetites for a long run in comics form,
it failed miserably.

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"All right now. I can kill werewolves, fix a Pinto and bake cornbread. I
will be damned if I can't get Zen."" -- Bobby Singer, SUPERNATURAL
Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97141 is a reply to message #97140] Mon, 23 April 2012 14:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <jn44ct$rb7$1@news.albasani.net>,
"Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/21/2012 4:58 PM:

>> In article<80p5p7t0ad3tr01o1vlrhg4qbucmuv46hm@4ax.com>,

>> David<dimlan17@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>

>>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

>>> <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

>>>> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

>>>> season):

>>>>

>>>> - Buffy (Season 9)

>>>> - Jericho (Season 4)

>>>>

>>>> What other comics continue on a series?

>>>

>>> "Smallville"

>>

>> One awful issue so far ...

>

> Really. Seriously, why bother? Maybe six panels' worth of plotting

> stretched into a seriously lame effort. If this was intended as a

> sincere effort to whet people's appetites for a long run in comics form,

> it failed miserably.


I was astonished at how bad it was. And huge close-ups that looked
nothing like Welling, so that I assumed they didn't have the rights to
use his likeness, and then suddenly another big shot that DOES sort of
look like Welling, at least enough that you could tell that was the
intent.

And it starts 6 months after the end of the show so they skip anything
interesting, and now they're putting him in the crapstastic uniform from
Supergayman Returns Again 2 The Sequel?

I don't even remember what Lex's status was at the end of the finale?

But since I wrote that, another awful issue has come out - with the
EXACT SAME COVER. This one was clearly written in real time. But Ian
will like the last panel.

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Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97142 is a reply to message #97141] Mon, 23 April 2012 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/23/2012 1:18 PM:
> In article<jn44ct$rb7$1@news.albasani.net>,

> "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

>

>> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/21/2012 4:58 PM:

>>> In article<80p5p7t0ad3tr01o1vlrhg4qbucmuv46hm@4ax.com>,

>>> David<dimlan17@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

>>>> <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> > We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

>>>> > as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

>>>> > season):

>>>> >

>>>> > - Buffy (Season 9)

>>>> > - Jericho (Season 4)

>>>> >

>>>> > What other comics continue on a series?

>>>>

>>>> "Smallville"

>>>

>>> One awful issue so far ...

>>

>> Really. Seriously, why bother? Maybe six panels' worth of plotting

>> stretched into a seriously lame effort. If this was intended as a

>> sincere effort to whet people's appetites for a long run in comics form,

>> it failed miserably.

>

> I was astonished at how bad it was. And huge close-ups that looked

> nothing like Welling, so that I assumed they didn't have the rights to

> use his likeness, and then suddenly another big shot that DOES sort of

> look like Welling, at least enough that you could tell that was the

> intent.


They got rid of the gut, though. :)

> And it starts 6 months after the end of the show so they skip anything

> interesting, and now they're putting him in the crapstastic uniform from

> Supergayman Returns Again 2 The Sequel?


No one else was using it, so...

> I don't even remember what Lex's status was at the end of the finale?


Wasn't he dead, and just living on (partly) in Superboy? Heck, I can't
remember anymore, either.

> But since I wrote that, another awful issue has come out - with the

> EXACT SAME COVER. This one was clearly written in real time. But Ian

> will like the last panel.


Tess takes an arrow through the chin?

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"All right now. I can kill werewolves, fix a Pinto and bake cornbread. I
will be damned if I can't get Zen." -- Bobby Singer, SUPERNATURAL
Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97143 is a reply to message #97141] Mon, 23 April 2012 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 24, 4:18 am, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> I was astonished at how bad it was.  And huge close-ups that looked

> nothing like Welling, so that I assumed they didn't have the rights to

> use his likeness,


These days it's pretty much the standard contract to have those
rights.

> and then suddenly another big shot that DOES sort of

> look like Welling, at least enough that you could tell that was the

> intent.


There are some artists who can't/don't do likenesses. Charles Adlard
admits he can't do them which was an issue when he did the The X-Files
comics.

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Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97144 is a reply to message #97142] Mon, 23 April 2012 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <jn4gbj$mop$1@news.albasani.net>,
"Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/23/2012 1:18 PM:

>> In article<jn44ct$rb7$1@news.albasani.net>,

>> "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

>>

>>> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/21/2012 4:58 PM:

>>>> In article<80p5p7t0ad3tr01o1vlrhg4qbucmuv46hm@4ax.com>,

>>>> David<dimlan17@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> > On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

>>>> > <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> >> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

>>>> >> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

>>>> >> season):

>>>> >>

>>>> >> - Buffy (Season 9)

>>>> >> - Jericho (Season 4)

>>>> >>

>>>> >> What other comics continue on a series?

>>>> >

>>>> > "Smallville"

>>>>

>>>> One awful issue so far ...

>>>

>>> Really. Seriously, why bother? Maybe six panels' worth of plotting

>>> stretched into a seriously lame effort. If this was intended as a

>>> sincere effort to whet people's appetites for a long run in comics form,

>>> it failed miserably.

>>

>> I was astonished at how bad it was. And huge close-ups that looked

>> nothing like Welling, so that I assumed they didn't have the rights to

>> use his likeness, and then suddenly another big shot that DOES sort of

>> look like Welling, at least enough that you could tell that was the

>> intent.

>

> They got rid of the gut, though. :)

>

>> And it starts 6 months after the end of the show so they skip anything

>> interesting, and now they're putting him in the crapstastic uniform from

>> Supergayman Returns Again 2 The Sequel?

>

> No one else was using it, so...


It's the dreadful uniform from MAN OF STEEL.
>

>> I don't even remember what Lex's status was at the end of the finale?

>

> Wasn't he dead, and just living on (partly) in Superboy? Heck, I can't

> remember anymore, either.


Well, he's back in the flesh now ...
>

>> But since I wrote that, another awful issue has come out - with the

>> EXACT SAME COVER. This one was clearly written in real time. But Ian

>> will like the last panel.

>

> Tess takes an arrow through the chin?


"Broken Arrow'

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Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97145 is a reply to message #97077] Tue, 24 April 2012 02:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
<p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

> season):

>

> - Buffy (Season 9)

> - Jericho (Season 4)

>

> What other comics continue on a series?


IDW's Angel: After the Fall (which eventually ditched the subtitle)
was more or less Angel: Season 6, up until Bill Willingham began to
misinterpret it with #28. The initial "After the Fall" arc was based
on an outline that Joss worked out with AtF writer Brian Lynch and
Joss even went so far as to request that Lynch include Betta George
(the airborne telepathic fish who first appeared in non-canon Spike
comics) in AtF to make him a canon Buffyverse character.

Although Angel & Faith carries a "Buffy Season 9" label that more or
less indicates that Buffy Season 9 consists of *both* the Buffy s9
comic and the Angel & Faith comic, I regard Angel & Faith as Angel (&
Faith): Season 7. Both shows' stories ran parallel to each other with
occasional crossovers and occasional thematic intersections when they
were on TV anyway, so I think it's just redundant to put the Buffy s9
label on A&F. Unless, I suppose, Dark Horse started putting "Angel &
Faith: Season 7" on the Buffy covers.

I would argue that, despite how bad they were, the continuation of the
original Battlestar Galactica via a series of miniseries published by
Rob Liefeld and mostly written by Richard Hatch, sometimes adapting
his novels that continued the original series, could be construed as
the prototypical example of a comic that was a canon continuation of
the series that it continues from. Generally, when someone connected
with the given show gets to write the show in another medium, it's
considered as canon as if the creator of the show (or other
showrunners) wrote it himself, as is the case with issues of
Buffyverse comics (even pre-season 8) that were written by Buffyverse
writers and actors. So IMO, Hatch's BSG comics more than qualify.

Obviously, the new Star Trek ongoing *is* a canon continuation of the
reboot, designed to adapt episodes of the original series into the new
continuity and "executive produced" ala Whedon by the movie's writers
Kurtzmann and Orci. Allegedly, some of the changes that have been made
to fit the existing stories into the reboot continuity are supposed to
lead into the second movie.

DC's two Star Trek: TOS series, especially the runs written by Mike W.
Barr and Peter David weren't canon, but were written as if they could
be with regards to actual character development. And I'm gonna go as
far as to argue that Peter David's runs (and, of course, his novels)
should be considered Trek canon.

Finally, Bryan Fuller keeps threatening to publish a continuation of
his Warner-produced Pushing Daisies through DC.

-- Rob
Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97146 is a reply to message #97142] Tue, 24 April 2012 02:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:07:55 -0500, "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com>
wrote:

>> I don't even remember what Lex's status was at the end of the finale?

>

> Wasn't he dead, and just living on (partly) in Superboy? Heck, I can't

> remember anymore, either.


The Lex that is alive at the end of the Smallville finale is a clone
who had recovered Lex 1.0's full memories only to lose them when Tess
whammied him with a memory-robbing poison that she administered right
before she died.

Although I gotta say, there's more than enough room in the story for
Tess to have cloned herself and had the clone get her-own-clone-self
killed. Why should Lex be the only Luthor to get to clone him/herself?
Ian can thank me for that idea.

-- Rob
Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97147 is a reply to message #97146] Tue, 24 April 2012 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <3rdcp757ft8i3fi0i1djjjmfdbct4mg7l8@4ax.com>,
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:07:55 -0500, "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com>

> wrote:

>

>>> I don't even remember what Lex's status was at the end of the finale?

>>

>> Wasn't he dead, and just living on (partly) in Superboy? Heck, I can't

>> remember anymore, either.

>

> The Lex that is alive at the end of the Smallville finale is a clone

> who had recovered Lex 1.0's full memories only to lose them when Tess

> whammied him with a memory-robbing poison that she administered right

> before she died.

>

> Although I gotta say, there's more than enough room in the story for

> Tess to have cloned herself and had the clone get her-own-clone-self

> killed. Why should Lex be the only Luthor to get to clone him/herself?

> Ian can thank me for that idea.

>

> -- Rob


SPOILERS FOR ISH 2




Lex is right where you said he was, thanks

and











wait for it






Tess is back.

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Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97148 is a reply to message #97144] Tue, 24 April 2012 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/23/2012 8:04 PM:
> In article<jn4gbj$mop$1@news.albasani.net>,

> "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

>

>> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/23/2012 1:18 PM:

>>> In article<jn44ct$rb7$1@news.albasani.net>,

>>> "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/21/2012 4:58 PM:

>>>> > In article<80p5p7t0ad3tr01o1vlrhg4qbucmuv46hm@4ax.com>,

>>>> > David<dimlan17@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> >> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

>>>> >> <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> >>

>>>> >>> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

>>>> >>> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

>>>> >>> season):

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>> - Buffy (Season 9)

>>>> >>> - Jericho (Season 4)

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>> What other comics continue on a series?

>>>> >>

>>>> >> "Smallville"

>>>> >

>>>> > One awful issue so far ...

>>>>

>>>> Really. Seriously, why bother? Maybe six panels' worth of plotting

>>>> stretched into a seriously lame effort. If this was intended as a

>>>> sincere effort to whet people's appetites for a long run in comics form,

>>>> it failed miserably.

>>>

>>> I was astonished at how bad it was. And huge close-ups that looked

>>> nothing like Welling, so that I assumed they didn't have the rights to

>>> use his likeness, and then suddenly another big shot that DOES sort of

>>> look like Welling, at least enough that you could tell that was the

>>> intent.

>>

>> They got rid of the gut, though. :)

>>

>>> And it starts 6 months after the end of the show so they skip anything

>>> interesting, and now they're putting him in the crapstastic uniform from

>>> Supergayman Returns Again 2 The Sequel?

>>

>> No one else was using it, so...

>

> It's the dreadful uniform from MAN OF STEEL.


Is it? Heh. I haven't been paying that much attention, I guess.

>>> I don't even remember what Lex's status was at the end of the finale?

>>

>> Wasn't he dead, and just living on (partly) in Superboy? Heck, I can't

>> remember anymore, either.

>

> Well, he's back in the flesh now ...


We're not really sure if he's the original, though.

>>> But since I wrote that, another awful issue has come out - with the

>>> EXACT SAME COVER. This one was clearly written in real time. But Ian

>>> will like the last panel.

>>

>> Tess takes an arrow through the chin?

>

> "Broken Arrow'


Even Green Arrow or Hawkeye (if he got really lost) would have trouble
penetrating that chin.

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Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97212 is a reply to message #97146] Tue, 24 April 2012 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob Jensen sent the following on 4/24/2012 1:08 AM:
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:07:55 -0500, "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com>

> wrote:

>

>>> I don't even remember what Lex's status was at the end of the finale?

>>

>> Wasn't he dead, and just living on (partly) in Superboy? Heck, I can't

>> remember anymore, either.

>

> The Lex that is alive at the end of the Smallville finale is a clone

> who had recovered Lex 1.0's full memories only to lose them when Tess

> whammied him with a memory-robbing poison that she administered right

> before she died.


Oh, that's right. The clone. How could I forget? As for the poison, how
could I forget wondering where Tess had hidden that vial in the slinky
dress that she was wearing...?

> Although I gotta say, there's more than enough room in the story for

> Tess to have cloned herself and had the clone get her-own-clone-self

> killed. Why should Lex be the only Luthor to get to clone him/herself?


That would make her a copycat in more ways than one!

> Ian can thank me for that idea.


Endless Tesses. You've just given Ian enough cold shower material to
last him a lifetime. :)

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will be damned if I can't get Zen." -- Bobby Singer, SUPERNATURAL
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In article <jn6s3o$5v0$7@news.albasani.net>,
"Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/23/2012 8:04 PM:

>> In article<jn4gbj$mop$1@news.albasani.net>,

>> "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

>>

>>> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/23/2012 1:18 PM:

>>>> In article<jn44ct$rb7$1@news.albasani.net>,

>>>> "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> > anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/21/2012 4:58 PM:

>>>> >> In article<80p5p7t0ad3tr01o1vlrhg4qbucmuv46hm@4ax.com>,

>>>> >> David<dimlan17@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>> >>

>>>> >>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

>>>> >>> <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>>> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

>>>> >>>> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

>>>> >>>> season):

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> - Buffy (Season 9)

>>>> >>>> - Jericho (Season 4)

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> What other comics continue on a series?

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>> "Smallville"

>>>> >>

>>>> >> One awful issue so far ...

>>>> >

>>>> > Really. Seriously, why bother? Maybe six panels' worth of plotting

>>>> > stretched into a seriously lame effort. If this was intended as a

>>>> > sincere effort to whet people's appetites for a long run in comics form,

>>>> > it failed miserably.

>>>>

>>>> I was astonished at how bad it was. And huge close-ups that looked

>>>> nothing like Welling, so that I assumed they didn't have the rights to

>>>> use his likeness, and then suddenly another big shot that DOES sort of

>>>> look like Welling, at least enough that you could tell that was the

>>>> intent.

>>>

>>> They got rid of the gut, though. :)

>>>

>>>> And it starts 6 months after the end of the show so they skip anything

>>>> interesting, and now they're putting him in the crapstastic uniform from

>>>> Supergayman Returns Again 2 The Sequel?

>>>

>>> No one else was using it, so...

>>

>> It's the dreadful uniform from MAN OF STEEL.

>

> Is it? Heh. I haven't been paying that much attention, I guess.


I think that's the case with everyone with MAN OF STEEL. They released
those early pics with the stupid costume, everybody said 'gah' and I
haven't heard a word about the film since. I think they know they're in
trouble.

http://cdn.idontlikeyouinthatway.com//pictures/20110902/Supe rman%20Man%20
Of%20Steel%20Costume%202/superman-costume-0.jpg

The SMALLVILLE costume has a more overt belt; maybe that's what Supes is
wearing in the comics now. I gave up on them completely after the
latest reboot.

(checks)

Yeah, it's kind of a cross between the two, all of them concentrating on
keeping everything that didn't work about the Supergayman Returns suit.

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anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/24/2012 3:15 PM:
> In article<jn6s3o$5v0$7@news.albasani.net>,

> "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

>

>> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/23/2012 8:04 PM:

>>> In article<jn4gbj$mop$1@news.albasani.net>,

>>> "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/23/2012 1:18 PM:

>>>> > In article<jn44ct$rb7$1@news.albasani.net>,

>>>> > "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> >> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/21/2012 4:58 PM:

>>>> >>> In article<80p5p7t0ad3tr01o1vlrhg4qbucmuv46hm@4ax.com>,

>>>> >>> David<dimlan17@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

>>>> >>>> <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>>> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

>>>> >>>>> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

>>>> >>>>> season):

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>> - Buffy (Season 9)

>>>> >>>>> - Jericho (Season 4)

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>> What other comics continue on a series?

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> "Smallville"

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>> One awful issue so far ...

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Really. Seriously, why bother? Maybe six panels' worth of plotting

>>>> >> stretched into a seriously lame effort. If this was intended as a

>>>> >> sincere effort to whet people's appetites for a long run in comics form,

>>>> >> it failed miserably.

>>>> >

>>>> > I was astonished at how bad it was. And huge close-ups that looked

>>>> > nothing like Welling, so that I assumed they didn't have the rights to

>>>> > use his likeness, and then suddenly another big shot that DOES sort of

>>>> > look like Welling, at least enough that you could tell that was the

>>>> > intent.

>>>>

>>>> They got rid of the gut, though. :)

>>>>

>>>> > And it starts 6 months after the end of the show so they skip anything

>>>> > interesting, and now they're putting him in the crapstastic uniform from

>>>> > Supergayman Returns Again 2 The Sequel?

>>>>

>>>> No one else was using it, so...

>>>

>>> It's the dreadful uniform from MAN OF STEEL.

>>

>> Is it? Heh. I haven't been paying that much attention, I guess.

>

> I think that's the case with everyone with MAN OF STEEL. They released

> those early pics with the stupid costume, everybody said 'gah' and I

> haven't heard a word about the film since. I think they know they're in

> trouble.

>

> http://cdn.idontlikeyouinthatway.com//pictures/20110902/Supe rman%20Man%20

> Of%20Steel%20Costume%202/superman-costume-0.jpg


I remember the attempts to generate buzz when the image of the new S was
released to the usual sites. I'm pretty sure that I looked at it and
yawned. I don't have high hopes for this thing, but I'd be happy to be
proven wrong.

> The SMALLVILLE costume has a more overt belt; maybe that's what Supes is

> wearing in the comics now. I gave up on them completely after the

> latest reboot.


Despite the blue jeans silliness in Action Comics, I'm still trying to
follow along with Supes and Supergirl, but I bailed early on Superboy.
(I'm not a fan of the new spin on that one.)

> (checks)

>

> Yeah, it's kind of a cross between the two, all of them concentrating on

> keeping everything that didn't work about the Supergayman Returns suit.


They did it all for you! :)

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Re: Comics that continue a series... [Angel] [message #97215 is a reply to message #97145] Tue, 24 April 2012 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 24, 4:08 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
>> What other comics continue on a series?


> IDW's Angel: After the Fall (which eventually ditched the subtitle)

> was more or less Angel: Season 6, up until Bill Willingham began to

> misinterpret it with #28. The initial "After the Fall" arc was based

> on an outline that Joss worked out with AtF writer Brian Lynch and

> Joss even went so far as to request that Lynch include Betta George

> (the airborne telepathic fish who first appeared in non-canon Spike

> comics) in AtF to make him a canon Buffyverse character.


My understanding from an interview with Joss was that he more
"approved" the first arc than worked it out with Lynch. He may have
suggested stuff and stopped somethings, but Joss's wording seemed to
me to be that he OK'ed the story not helped create it.

> Although Angel & Faith carries a "Buffy Season 9" label that more or

> less indicates that Buffy Season 9 consists of *both* the Buffy s9

> comic and the Angel & Faith comic, I regard Angel & Faith as Angel (&

> Faith): Season 7. Both shows' stories ran parallel to each other with

> occasional crossovers and occasional thematic intersections when they

> were on TV anyway, so I think it's just redundant to put the Buffy s9

> label on A&F. Unless, I suppose, Dark Horse started putting "Angel &

> Faith: Season 7" on the Buffy covers.


But wouldn't that be "Angel: Season 7"?

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Re: Comics that continue a series... [original Battlestar Galactica] [message #97216 is a reply to message #97145] Tue, 24 April 2012 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 24, 4:08 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

>> What other comics continue on a series?

> I would argue that, despite how bad they were, the continuation of the

> original Battlestar Galactica via a series of miniseries published by

> Rob Liefeld and mostly written by Richard Hatch, sometimes adapting

> his novels that continued the original series, could be construed as

> the prototypical example of a comic that was a canon continuation of

> the series that it continues from. Generally, when someone connected

> with the given show gets to write the show in another medium, it's

> considered as canon as if the creator of the show (or other

> showrunners) wrote it himself, as is the case with issues of

> Buffyverse comics (even pre-season 8) that were written by Buffyverse

> writers and actors. So IMO, Hatch's BSG comics more than qualify.


The original Battlestar Galactica has had a number of continuations,
though...

With Liefeld first, Realm did some as well (in fact using "Season II"
and "Season III" titles at some points.)

I read an issue Dynamite's Classic BSG... but what I read was set
during the first episode...

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> Obviously, the new Star Trek ongoing *is* a canon continuation of the

> reboot, designed to adapt episodes of the original series into the new

> continuity and "executive produced" ala Whedon by the movie's writers

> Kurtzmann and Orci. Allegedly, some of the changes that have been made

> to fit the existing stories into the reboot continuity are supposed to

> lead into the second movie.

>

> DC's two Star Trek: TOS series, especially the runs written by Mike W.

> Barr and Peter David weren't canon, but were written as if they could

> be with regards to actual character development. And I'm gonna go as

> far as to argue that Peter David's runs (and, of course, his novels)

> should be considered Trek canon.

>

> Finally, Bryan Fuller keeps threatening to publish a continuation of

> his Warner-produced Pushing Daisies through DC.

>

>   -- Rob
Re: Comics that continue a series... [Star Trek] [message #97217 is a reply to message #97145] Tue, 24 April 2012 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 24, 4:08 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
> Obviously, the new Star Trek ongoing *is* a canon continuation of the

> reboot, designed to adapt episodes of the original series into the new

> continuity and "executive produced" ala Whedon by the movie's writers

> Kurtzmann and Orci. Allegedly, some of the changes that have been made

> to fit the existing stories into the reboot continuity are supposed to

> lead into the second movie.


Hmmm... interview I read with Orci said otherwise. "Is continuity
unless later changed" type of statements.

But, anyway, I said "Not tie-in comics released during the series or
that tell stories
within the series... " which it sort of does.

> DC's two Star Trek: TOS series, especially the runs written by Mike W.

> Barr and Peter David weren't canon, but were written as if they could

> be with regards to actual character development. And I'm gonna go as

> far as to argue that Peter David's runs (and, of course, his novels)

> should be considered Trek canon.


True. An official continuation by no means means it is better than
"non-canon" comics.

Some of the old boot Star Trek comics must have continued from series/
movies.

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Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97218 is a reply to message #97214] Tue, 24 April 2012 22:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <jn76rd$tq5$1@news.albasani.net>,
"Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/24/2012 3:15 PM:

>> In article<jn6s3o$5v0$7@news.albasani.net>,

>> "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

>>

>>> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/23/2012 8:04 PM:

>>>> In article<jn4gbj$mop$1@news.albasani.net>,

>>>> "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> > anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/23/2012 1:18 PM:

>>>> >> In article<jn44ct$rb7$1@news.albasani.net>,

>>>> >> "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

>>>> >>

>>>> >>> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/21/2012 4:58 PM:

>>>> >>>> In article<80p5p7t0ad3tr01o1vlrhg4qbucmuv46hm@4ax.com>,

>>>> >>>> David<dimlan17@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

>>>> >>>>> <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>>> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names

>>>> >>>>>> themselves

>>>> >>>>>> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second

>>>> >>>>>> new

>>>> >>>>>> season):

>>>> >>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>> - Buffy (Season 9)

>>>> >>>>>> - Jericho (Season 4)

>>>> >>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>> What other comics continue on a series?

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>> "Smallville"

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> One awful issue so far ...

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>> Really. Seriously, why bother? Maybe six panels' worth of plotting

>>>> >>> stretched into a seriously lame effort. If this was intended as a

>>>> >>> sincere effort to whet people's appetites for a long run in comics

>>>> >>> form,

>>>> >>> it failed miserably.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> I was astonished at how bad it was. And huge close-ups that looked

>>>> >> nothing like Welling, so that I assumed they didn't have the rights to

>>>> >> use his likeness, and then suddenly another big shot that DOES sort of

>>>> >> look like Welling, at least enough that you could tell that was the

>>>> >> intent.

>>>> >

>>>> > They got rid of the gut, though. :)

>>>> >

>>>> >> And it starts 6 months after the end of the show so they skip anything

>>>> >> interesting, and now they're putting him in the crapstastic uniform

>>>> >> from

>>>> >> Supergayman Returns Again 2 The Sequel?

>>>> >

>>>> > No one else was using it, so...

>>>>

>>>> It's the dreadful uniform from MAN OF STEEL.

>>>

>>> Is it? Heh. I haven't been paying that much attention, I guess.

>>

>> I think that's the case with everyone with MAN OF STEEL. They released

>> those early pics with the stupid costume, everybody said 'gah' and I

>> haven't heard a word about the film since. I think they know they're in

>> trouble.

>>

>> http://cdn.idontlikeyouinthatway.com//pictures/20110902/Supe rman%20Man%20

>> Of%20Steel%20Costume%202/superman-costume-0.jpg

>

> I remember the attempts to generate buzz when the image of the new S was

> released to the usual sites. I'm pretty sure that I looked at it and

> yawned. I don't have high hopes for this thing, but I'd be happy to be

> proven wrong.


Do we really want to watch Clark grow up *again*?
>

>> The SMALLVILLE costume has a more overt belt; maybe that's what Supes is

>> wearing in the comics now. I gave up on them completely after the

>> latest reboot.

>

> Despite the blue jeans silliness in Action Comics, I'm still trying to

> follow along with Supes and Supergirl, but I bailed early on Superboy.

> (I'm not a fan of the new spin on that one.)


I don't think I made it past issue two of any of the newest continuity.
>

>> (checks)

>>

>> Yeah, it's kind of a cross between the two, all of them concentrating on

>> keeping everything that didn't work about the Supergayman Returns suit.

>

> They did it all for you! :)


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Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97219 is a reply to message #97146] Wed, 25 April 2012 00:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <3rdcp757ft8i3fi0i1djjjmfdbct4mg7l8@4ax.com>,
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:
> The Lex that is alive at the end of the Smallville finale is a clone

> who had recovered Lex 1.0's full memories only to lose them when Tess

> whammied him with a memory-robbing poison that she administered right

> before she died.


....*Really* not regretting my decision to drop the series after the
end of season 7.

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| and horrible misery?"
| "Yah."
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Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97220 is a reply to message #97218] Thu, 26 April 2012 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/24/2012 9:30 PM:
> In article<jn76rd$tq5$1@news.albasani.net>,

> "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

>

>> I remember the attempts to generate buzz when the image of the new S was

>> released to the usual sites. I'm pretty sure that I looked at it and

>> yawned. I don't have high hopes for this thing, but I'd be happy to be

>> proven wrong.

>

> Do we really want to watch Clark grow up *again*?


I'm okay with it if they do it well--and if they don't change things
just to be changing them.

>> Despite the blue jeans silliness in Action Comics, I'm still trying to

>> follow along with Supes and Supergirl, but I bailed early on Superboy.

>> (I'm not a fan of the new spin on that one.)

>

> I don't think I made it past issue two of any of the newest continuity.


Aquaman and Wonder Woman are the best of the lot, IMO, but there are
others that I still follow. Not as many as when the new 52 launched, but
more than I thought, quite frankly. Of course, that could just be a
reflection of the fact that I'm watching less television and have more
time for other things.

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will be damned if I can't get Zen." -- Bobby Singer, SUPERNATURAL
Re: Comics that continue a series... [Angel] [message #97275 is a reply to message #97215] Tue, 01 May 2012 00:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:07:18 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
<p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 24, 4:08 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:

>>> What other comics continue on a series?

>

>> IDW's Angel: After the Fall (which eventually ditched the subtitle)

>> was more or less Angel: Season 6, up until Bill Willingham began to

>> misinterpret it with #28. The initial "After the Fall" arc was based

>> on an outline that Joss worked out with AtF writer Brian Lynch and

>> Joss even went so far as to request that Lynch include Betta George

>> (the airborne telepathic fish who first appeared in non-canon Spike

>> comics) in AtF to make him a canon Buffyverse character.

>

> My understanding from an interview with Joss was that he more

> "approved" the first arc than worked it out with Lynch. He may have

> suggested stuff and stopped somethings, but Joss's wording seemed to

> me to be that he OK'ed the story not helped create it.

>

>> Although Angel & Faith carries a "Buffy Season 9" label that more or

>> less indicates that Buffy Season 9 consists of *both* the Buffy s9

>> comic and the Angel & Faith comic, I regard Angel & Faith as Angel (&

>> Faith): Season 7. Both shows' stories ran parallel to each other with

>> occasional crossovers and occasional thematic intersections when they

>> were on TV anyway, so I think it's just redundant to put the Buffy s9

>> label on A&F. Unless, I suppose, Dark Horse started putting "Angel &

>> Faith: Season 7" on the Buffy covers.

>

> But wouldn't that be "Angel: Season 7"?


Well, it would mean that the Angel series changed its name to Angel &
Faith for Season 7. I suppose, too, that, if anyone really *wanted* to
acknowledge Bill Willingham's terrible run on the IDW series, those
post-After-the-Fall ("AFTER After The Fall?") issues could be
considered season 7, which would make Angel & Faith season 8. (But
let's not, okay. They suck.)

-- Rob
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:24:14 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David
Goldfarb) wrote:

> In article <3rdcp757ft8i3fi0i1djjjmfdbct4mg7l8@4ax.com>,

> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

>> The Lex that is alive at the end of the Smallville finale is a clone

>> who had recovered Lex 1.0's full memories only to lose them when Tess

>> whammied him with a memory-robbing poison that she administered right

>> before she died.

>

> ...*Really* not regretting my decision to drop the series after the

> end of season 7.


That was a huge mistake, IMO.

-- Rob
Re: Comics that continue a series... [Star Trek] [message #97277 is a reply to message #97217] Tue, 01 May 2012 00:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:23:09 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
<p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

>> DC's two Star Trek: TOS series, especially the runs written by Mike W.

>> Barr and Peter David weren't canon, but were written as if they could

>> be with regards to actual character development. And I'm gonna go as

>> far as to argue that Peter David's runs (and, of course, his novels)

>> should be considered Trek canon.

>

> True. An official continuation by no means means it is better than

> "non-canon" comics.


In absolute terms, yes, there can be bad canon comics, but IMO canon
comics (and even the various Trek continuations, especially DS9's,
which are not necessarily continuity but have become essentially their
own alternate canon) are *more likely* to be better than non-canon,
non-continuity, "hit the cosmic reset button at the end" stories
because the addition of actual character development means that the
stories become far less formulaic.

> Some of the old boot Star Trek comics must have continued from series/

> movies.


The two TOS series from DC weaved in and out of the Trek movies. One
of PAD's characters from his first TOS run was later featured in his
first TNG novel, Strike Zone.

-- Rob
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In article <ssnup711d3fnv7h5vins1ccuvdhn0dd7hb@4ax.com>,
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:24:14 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David

> Goldfarb) wrote:

>

>> In article <3rdcp757ft8i3fi0i1djjjmfdbct4mg7l8@4ax.com>,

>> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

>>> The Lex that is alive at the end of the Smallville finale is a clone

>>> who had recovered Lex 1.0's full memories only to lose them when Tess

>>> whammied him with a memory-robbing poison that she administered right

>>> before she died.

>>

>> ...*Really* not regretting my decision to drop the series after the

>> end of season 7.

>

> That was a huge mistake, IMO.

>

> -- Rob


There's a third issue of SMALLVILLE out. It's not getting any better.

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Re: Comics that continue a series... [Star Trek] [message #97324 is a reply to message #97277] Tue, 01 May 2012 01:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On May 1, 2:14 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
> In absolute terms, yes, there can be bad canon comics, but IMO canon

> comics (and even the various Trek continuations, especially DS9's,

> which are not necessarily continuity but have become essentially their

> own alternate canon) are *more likely* to be better than non-canon,

> non-continuity, "hit the cosmic reset button at the end" stories

> because the addition of actual character development means that the

> stories become far less formulaic.


Agreed. But there are no guarantees.

>> Some of the old boot Star Trek comics must have continued from series/

>> movies.


> The two TOS series from DC weaved in and out of the Trek movies. One

> of PAD's characters from his first TOS run was later featured in his

> first TNG novel, Strike Zone.


Cool.

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On May 1, 2:14 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:07:18 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> <p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> On Apr 24, 4:08 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:

>>>> What other comics continue on a series?

>

>>> IDW's Angel: After the Fall (which eventually ditched the subtitle)

>>> was more or less Angel: Season 6, up until Bill Willingham began to

>>> misinterpret it with #28. The initial "After the Fall" arc was based

>>> on an outline that Joss worked out with AtF writer Brian Lynch and

>>> Joss even went so far as to request that Lynch include Betta George

>>> (the airborne telepathic fish who first appeared in non-canon Spike

>>> comics) in AtF to make him a canon Buffyverse character.

>

>> My understanding from an interview with Joss was that he more

>> "approved" the first arc than worked it out with Lynch.  He may have

>> suggested stuff and stopped somethings, but Joss's wording seemed to

>> me to be that he OK'ed the story not helped create it.

>

>>> Although Angel & Faith carries a "Buffy Season 9" label that more or

>>> less indicates that Buffy Season 9 consists of *both* the Buffy s9

>>> comic and the Angel & Faith comic, I regard Angel & Faith as Angel (&

>>> Faith): Season 7. Both shows' stories ran parallel to each other with

>>> occasional crossovers and occasional thematic intersections when they

>>> were on TV anyway, so I think it's just redundant to put the Buffy s9

>>> label on A&F. Unless, I suppose, Dark Horse started putting "Angel &

>>> Faith: Season 7" on the Buffy covers.

>

>> But wouldn't that be "Angel: Season 7"?

>

> Well, it would mean that the Angel series changed its name to Angel &

> Faith for Season 7. I suppose, too, that, if anyone really *wanted* to

> acknowledge Bill Willingham's terrible run on the IDW series, those

> post-After-the-Fall ("AFTER After The Fall?") issues could be

> considered season 7, which would make Angel & Faith season 8. (But

> let's not, okay. They suck.)


Fair enough.

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On May 1, 2:50 pm, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <ssnup711d3fnv7h5vins1ccuvdhn0dd...@4ax.com>,

>  Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:24:14 GMT, goldf...@ocf.berkeley.edu (David

>> Goldfarb) wrote:

>

>>> In article <3rdcp757ft8i3fi0i1djjjmfdbct4mg...@4ax.com>,

>>> Rob Jensen  <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:

>>>> The Lex that is alive at the end of the Smallville finale is a clone

>>>> who had recovered Lex 1.0's full memories only to lose them when Tess

>>>> whammied him with a memory-robbing poison that she administered right

>>>> before she died.

>>> ...*Really* not regretting my decision to drop the series after the

>>> end of season 7.


>> That was a huge mistake, IMO.


> There's a third issue of SMALLVILLE out.  It's not getting any better.


Shame to here...

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On Apr 22, 12:11 am, Duggy <p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

> season):

>

>  - Buffy (Season 9)

>  - Jericho (Season 4)

>

> What other comics continue on a series?

>

> Not tie-in comics released during the series or that tell stories

> within the series... but rather comics that start after a series has

> ended as a continuation of the series?  And a comic is disqualified

> from this game if a new series, telemovie, film, etc, came out after.

>

> And have any others been named as explicitedly as the above two?


Just to sum up what we've discussed that have followed the above
rules:

 - Buffy (Season 8 & 9)
 - Jericho (Season 3& 4)
- Smallville
- Angel (After the Fall, Angel & Faith)
- original Battlestar Galactica (by Liefeld)
- original Battlestar Galactica (by Realm: Season 2 & 3 and other
titles).
- some Star Trek, but messy as regards what follows and what is just
between films.

What else?

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In article <ssnup711d3fnv7h5vins1ccuvdhn0dd7hb@4ax.com>,
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:24:14 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David

> Goldfarb) wrote:

>

>> In article <3rdcp757ft8i3fi0i1djjjmfdbct4mg7l8@4ax.com>,

>> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

>>> The Lex that is alive at the end of the Smallville finale is a clone

>>> who had recovered Lex 1.0's full memories only to lose them when Tess

>>> whammied him with a memory-robbing poison that she administered right

>>> before she died.

>>

>> ...*Really* not regretting my decision to drop the series after the

>> end of season 7.

>

> That was a huge mistake, IMO.


No offense to you, but your own unsupported opinion doesn't offset
the weight of various other evidence...most notably the whole of
season 7 itself.

--
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goldfarbdj@gmail.com |destroying New York as usual (this is LA's way
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu |of telling Manhattan it cares)."
| -- Salman Rushdie
Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97332 is a reply to message #97329] Wed, 02 May 2012 02:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 1 May 2012 07:21:10 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David
Goldfarb) wrote:

> In article <ssnup711d3fnv7h5vins1ccuvdhn0dd7hb@4ax.com>,

> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:24:14 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David

>> Goldfarb) wrote:

>>

>>> In article <3rdcp757ft8i3fi0i1djjjmfdbct4mg7l8@4ax.com>,

>>> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

>>>> The Lex that is alive at the end of the Smallville finale is a clone

>>>> who had recovered Lex 1.0's full memories only to lose them when Tess

>>>> whammied him with a memory-robbing poison that she administered right

>>>> before she died.

>>>

>>> ...*Really* not regretting my decision to drop the series after the

>>> end of season 7.

>>

>> That was a huge mistake, IMO.

>

> No offense to you, but your own unsupported opinion doesn't offset

> the weight of various other evidence...most notably the whole of

> season 7 itself.


The whole of seasons 8, 9 and 10 offset it.

-- Rob
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:02:29 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
<p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 22, 12:11 am, Duggy <p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

>> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

>> season):

>>

>>  - Buffy (Season 9)

>>  - Jericho (Season 4)

>>

>> What other comics continue on a series?

>>

>> Not tie-in comics released during the series or that tell stories

>> within the series... but rather comics that start after a series has

>> ended as a continuation of the series?  And a comic is disqualified

>> from this game if a new series, telemovie, film, etc, came out after.

>>

>> And have any others been named as explicitedly as the above two?

>

> Just to sum up what we've discussed that have followed the above

> rules:

>

>  - Buffy (Season 8 & 9)

>  - Jericho (Season 3& 4)

> - Smallville

> - Angel (After the Fall, Angel & Faith)

> - original Battlestar Galactica (by Liefeld)

> - original Battlestar Galactica (by Realm: Season 2 & 3 and other

> titles).

> - some Star Trek, but messy as regards what follows and what is just

> between films.

>

> What else?


Charmed, from Zenescope, now on issue #20. Came up with a neat
solution to Prue a) not being in the Afterlife with Grams and Patty
and b) not looking like Shannen Doherty. IMO, if you're a fan of the
show, the writing on the comic is *awesome.*

Farscape, recently concluded from Boom. While the three D'Argo
miniseries are their own 12-issue storylne that takes place in the
past of the show, the rest of Boom's Farscape miniseries plus the
ongoing series that just ended with #24 and the Scorpius spin-off that
ran concurrently with the first eight or nine issues of the ongoing,
they all take place after The Peacekeeper Wars. There are certain
aspects of the comics, including the visit to Pilot's homeworld and
the true nature of villains, the Kkore, that make me believe that the
entire forty-something issue arc across all those series and
miniseries are everything that they had in mind for season 5 that they
couldn't include in PK Wars.

Okay, so the existence of The Clone Wars is one of the most awesome
technicalities ever for the purposes of what qualfies, but the Star
Wars comics and the so-called "Expanded Universe" of novels all ensure
that the Star Wars qualifies. And virtually everything done for the
comics and the novels are waaaaaaay better written than the Prequel
Trilogy, too. (Of course, that almost goes without saying.) Lucasfilm
seems to practice the philosophy that while the movies may be their
own canon (which may or may not include The Clone Wars series), the
novels and comics follow their own canon that includes the movies and
The Clone Wars. Star Wars might just be the model for the concept of
"expanded canon" that all these other continuations follow.

-- Rob
Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97367 is a reply to message #97366] Wed, 02 May 2012 04:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <ltk1q79escvhrhmntg87ugqkbsvm1vo28o@4ax.com>,
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:02:29 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

> <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> On Apr 22, 12:11 am, Duggy <p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

>>> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

>>> season):

>>>

>>>  - Buffy (Season 9)

>>>  - Jericho (Season 4)

>>>

>>> What other comics continue on a series?

>>>

>>> Not tie-in comics released during the series or that tell stories

>>> within the series... but rather comics that start after a series has

>>> ended as a continuation of the series?  And a comic is disqualified

>>> from this game if a new series, telemovie, film, etc, came out after.

>>>

>>> And have any others been named as explicitedly as the above two?

>>

>> Just to sum up what we've discussed that have followed the above

>> rules:

>>

>>  - Buffy (Season 8 & 9)

>>  - Jericho (Season 3& 4)

>> - Smallville

>> - Angel (After the Fall, Angel & Faith)

>> - original Battlestar Galactica (by Liefeld)

>> - original Battlestar Galactica (by Realm: Season 2 & 3 and other

>> titles).

>> - some Star Trek, but messy as regards what follows and what is just

>> between films.

>>

>> What else?

>

> Charmed, from Zenescope, now on issue #20. Came up with a neat

> solution to Prue a) not being in the Afterlife with Grams and Patty

> and b) not looking like Shannen Doherty. IMO, if you're a fan of the

> show, the writing on the comic is *awesome.*


I doubt I'll check it out, but I'd appreciate a spoiler ridden
explanation re Prue?

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Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97368 is a reply to message #97366] Wed, 02 May 2012 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On May 2, 4:51 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
> Charmed, from Zenescope, now on issue #20. Came up with a neat

> solution to Prue a) not being in the Afterlife with Grams and Patty

> and b) not looking like Shannen Doherty. IMO, if you're a fan of the

> show, the writing on the comic is *awesome.*


Well, I wasn't, but nice addition.

> Farscape, recently concluded from Boom. While the three D'Argo

> miniseries are their own 12-issue storylne that takes place in the

> past of the show, the rest of Boom's Farscape miniseries plus the

> ongoing series that just ended with #24 and the Scorpius spin-off that

> ran concurrently with the first eight or nine issues of the ongoing,

> they all take place after The Peacekeeper Wars. There are certain

> aspects of the comics, including the visit to Pilot's homeworld and

> the true nature of villains, the Kkore, that make me believe that the

> entire forty-something issue arc across all those series and

> miniseries are everything that they had in mind for season 5 that they

> couldn't include in PK Wars.


Cool...

> Okay, so the existence of The Clone Wars is one of the most awesome

> technicalities ever for the purposes of what qualfies, but the Star

> Wars comics and the so-called "Expanded Universe" of novels all ensure

> that the Star Wars qualifies. And virtually everything done for the

> comics and the novels are waaaaaaay better written than the Prequel

> Trilogy, too. (Of course, that almost goes without saying.)  Lucasfilm

> seems to practice the philosophy that while the movies may be their

> own canon (which may or may not include The Clone Wars series), the

> novels and comics follow their own canon that includes the movies and

> The Clone Wars. Star Wars might just be the model for the concept of

> "expanded canon" that all these other continuations follow.


True.

===
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===
Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97369 is a reply to message #97367] Wed, 02 May 2012 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 02 May 2012 01:08:00 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

> In article <ltk1q79escvhrhmntg87ugqkbsvm1vo28o@4ax.com>,

> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

>

>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:02:29 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

>> <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>> On Apr 22, 12:11 am, Duggy <p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

>>>> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

>>>> season):

>>>>

>>>>  - Buffy (Season 9)

>>>>  - Jericho (Season 4)

>>>>

>>>> What other comics continue on a series?

>>>>

>>>> Not tie-in comics released during the series or that tell stories

>>>> within the series... but rather comics that start after a series has

>>>> ended as a continuation of the series?  And a comic is disqualified

>>>> from this game if a new series, telemovie, film, etc, came out after.

>>>>

>>>> And have any others been named as explicitedly as the above two?

>>>

>>> Just to sum up what we've discussed that have followed the above

>>> rules:

>>>

>>>  - Buffy (Season 8 & 9)

>>>  - Jericho (Season 3& 4)

>>> - Smallville

>>> - Angel (After the Fall, Angel & Faith)

>>> - original Battlestar Galactica (by Liefeld)

>>> - original Battlestar Galactica (by Realm: Season 2 & 3 and other

>>> titles).

>>> - some Star Trek, but messy as regards what follows and what is just

>>> between films.

>>>

>>> What else?

>>

>> Charmed, from Zenescope, now on issue #20. Came up with a neat

>> solution to Prue a) not being in the Afterlife with Grams and Patty

>> and b) not looking like Shannen Doherty. IMO, if you're a fan of the

>> show, the writing on the comic is *awesome.*

>

> I doubt I'll check it out, but I'd appreciate a spoiler ridden

> explanation re Prue?


Her spirit now resides in another woman's body (a blonde), if she gets
too close to any of the other sisters, everybody's powers go haywire
when they use them. So she now resides on the East Coast.

(I'm deliberately leaving out where on the East Coast and why/how
she's in another woman's body. And what Cole has to do with it. You
should read the comics.)

added x-post to alt.tv.charmed

-- Rob
Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97370 is a reply to message #97369] Wed, 02 May 2012 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <3mp2q712g6kui0mf2ids96a8oj1qgdu96l@4ax.com>,
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 02 May 2012 01:08:00 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8rfsk@cox.net>

> wrote:

>

>> In article <ltk1q79escvhrhmntg87ugqkbsvm1vo28o@4ax.com>,

>> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

>>

>>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:02:29 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

>>> <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> On Apr 22, 12:11 am, Duggy <p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> > We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

>>>> > as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

>>>> > season):

>>>> >

>>>> >  - Buffy (Season 9)

>>>> >  - Jericho (Season 4)

>>>> >

>>>> > What other comics continue on a series?

>>>> >

>>>> > Not tie-in comics released during the series or that tell stories

>>>> > within the series... but rather comics that start after a series has

>>>> > ended as a continuation of the series?  And a comic is disqualified

>>>> > from this game if a new series, telemovie, film, etc, came out after.

>>>> >

>>>> > And have any others been named as explicitedly as the above two?

>>>>

>>>> Just to sum up what we've discussed that have followed the above

>>>> rules:

>>>>

>>>>  - Buffy (Season 8 & 9)

>>>>  - Jericho (Season 3& 4)

>>>> - Smallville

>>>> - Angel (After the Fall, Angel & Faith)

>>>> - original Battlestar Galactica (by Liefeld)

>>>> - original Battlestar Galactica (by Realm: Season 2 & 3 and other

>>>> titles).

>>>> - some Star Trek, but messy as regards what follows and what is just

>>>> between films.

>>>>

>>>> What else?

>>>

>>> Charmed, from Zenescope, now on issue #20. Came up with a neat

>>> solution to Prue a) not being in the Afterlife with Grams and Patty

>>> and b) not looking like Shannen Doherty. IMO, if you're a fan of the

>>> show, the writing on the comic is *awesome.*

>>

>> I doubt I'll check it out, but I'd appreciate a spoiler ridden

>> explanation re Prue?

>

> Her spirit now resides in another woman's body (a blonde), if she gets

> too close to any of the other sisters, everybody's powers go haywire

> when they use them. So she now resides on the East Coast.

>

> (I'm deliberately leaving out where on the East Coast and why/how

> she's in another woman's body. And what Cole has to do with it. You

> should read the comics.)

>

> added x-post to alt.tv.charmed

>

> -- Rob


Wait - she's back on the physical plane?

Did they stick her in Kaley?

--
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Re: Comics that continue a series... [message #97371 is a reply to message #97323] Thu, 03 May 2012 15:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/30/2012 11:50 PM:
> In article<ssnup711d3fnv7h5vins1ccuvdhn0dd7hb@4ax.com>,

> Rob Jensen<ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

>

>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:24:14 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David

>> Goldfarb) wrote:

>>

>>> In article<3rdcp757ft8i3fi0i1djjjmfdbct4mg7l8@4ax.com>,

>>> Rob Jensen<ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

>>>> The Lex that is alive at the end of the Smallville finale is a clone

>>>> who had recovered Lex 1.0's full memories only to lose them when Tess

>>>> whammied him with a memory-robbing poison that she administered right

>>>> before she died.

>>>

>>> ...*Really* not regretting my decision to drop the series after the

>>> end of season 7.

>>

>> That was a huge mistake, IMO.

>>

>> -- Rob

>

> There's a third issue of SMALLVILLE out. It's not getting any better.


Bummer. I've got #2 and #3 near at hand, but I haven't read them yet. I
was hoping that #1 was just a stumble out of the gate...

--
Jim G. | Waukesha, WI
"I find it's best if you just ... go with it." -- Lincoln Lee, providing
us with FRINGE's "Every question just leads to more questions" moment
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In article <jnuknp$7st$14@news.albasani.net>,
"Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com> wrote:

> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/30/2012 11:50 PM:

>> In article<ssnup711d3fnv7h5vins1ccuvdhn0dd7hb@4ax.com>,

>> Rob Jensen<ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

>>

>>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:24:14 GMT, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David

>>> Goldfarb) wrote:

>>>

>>>> In article<3rdcp757ft8i3fi0i1djjjmfdbct4mg7l8@4ax.com>,

>>>> Rob Jensen<ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

>>>> > The Lex that is alive at the end of the Smallville finale is a clone

>>>> > who had recovered Lex 1.0's full memories only to lose them when Tess

>>>> > whammied him with a memory-robbing poison that she administered right

>>>> > before she died.

>>>>

>>>> ...*Really* not regretting my decision to drop the series after the

>>>> end of season 7.

>>>

>>> That was a huge mistake, IMO.

>>>

>>> -- Rob

>>

>> There's a third issue of SMALLVILLE out. It's not getting any better.

>

> Bummer. I've got #2 and #3 near at hand, but I haven't read them yet. I

> was hoping that #1 was just a stumble out of the gate...


Nope. #1 is a fair representation of the series to date.

--
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Re: Comics that continue a series... [Charmed] [message #97373 is a reply to message #97370] Fri, 04 May 2012 07:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On May 3, 3:47 am, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <3mp2q712g6kui0mf2ids96a8oj1qgdu...@4ax.com>,

>  Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>> On Wed, 02 May 2012 01:08:00 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net>

>> wrote:

>

>>> In article <ltk1q79escvhrhmntg87ugqkbsvm1vo...@4ax.com>,

>>> Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:

>

>>>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:02:29 -0700 (PDT), Duggy

>>>> <p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>>>> >On Apr 22, 12:11 am, Duggy <p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> >> We've got 2 comics out at the moment that explicitly names themselves

>>>> >> as new seasons of the TV show (in fact, both are in their second new

>>>> >> season):

>

>>>> >>  - Buffy (Season 9)

>>>> >>  - Jericho (Season 4)

>

>>>> >> What other comics continue on a series?

>

>>>> >> Not tie-in comics released during the series or that tell stories

>>>> >> within the series... but rather comics that start after a series has

>>>> >> ended as a continuation of the series?  And a comic is disqualified

>>>> >> from this game if a new series, telemovie, film, etc, came out after.

>

>>>> >> And have any others been named as explicitedly as the above two?

>

>>>> >Just to sum up what we've discussed that have followed the above

>>>> >rules:

>

>>>> > - Buffy (Season 8 & 9)

>>>> > - Jericho (Season 3& 4)

>>>> > - Smallville

>>>> > - Angel (After the Fall, Angel & Faith)

>>>> > - original Battlestar Galactica (by Liefeld)

>>>> > - original Battlestar Galactica (by Realm: Season 2 & 3 and other

>>>> >titles).

>>>> > - some Star Trek, but messy as regards what follows and what is just

>>>> >between films.

>

>>>> >What else?

>

>>>> Charmed, from Zenescope, now on issue #20. Came up with a neat

>>>> solution to Prue a) not being in the Afterlife with Grams and Patty

>>>> and b) not looking like Shannen Doherty. IMO, if you're a fan of the

>>>> show, the writing on the comic is *awesome.*

>

>>> I doubt I'll check it out, but I'd appreciate a spoiler ridden

>>> explanation re Prue?

>

>> Her spirit now resides in another woman's body (a blonde), if she gets

>> too close to any of the other sisters, everybody's powers go haywire

>> when they use them. So she now resides on the East Coast.

>

>> (I'm deliberately leaving out where on the East Coast and why/how

>> she's in another woman's body. And what Cole has to do with it.  You

>> should read the comics.)

>

>> added x-post to alt.tv.charmed

>

>>   -- Rob

>

> Wait - she's back on the physical plane?

>

> Did they stick her in Kaley?


I think "You should read the comics" means that's all the information
you're getting out of him.

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On May 4, 9:11 am, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <jnuknp$7st...@news.albasani.net>,

>  "Jim G." <jimgy...@geemail.com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>> anim8rFSK sent the following on 4/30/2012 11:50 PM:

>>> In article<ssnup711d3fnv7h5vins1ccuvdhn0dd...@4ax.com>,

>>>   Rob Jensen<ShutUp...@aol.com>  wrote:

>

>>>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:24:14 GMT, goldf...@ocf.berkeley.edu (David

>>>> Goldfarb) wrote:

>

>>>> > In article<3rdcp757ft8i3fi0i1djjjmfdbct4mg...@4ax.com>,

>>>> > Rob Jensen<ShutUp...@aol.com>  wrote:

>>>> >> The Lex that is alive at the end of the Smallville finale is a clone

>>>> >> who had recovered Lex 1.0's full memories only to lose them when Tess

>>>> >> whammied him with a memory-robbing poison that she administered right

>>>> >> before she died.

>

>>>> > ...*Really* not regretting my decision to drop the series after the

>>>> > end of season 7.

>

>>>> That was a huge mistake, IMO.

>

>>>>    -- Rob

>

>>> There's a third issue of SMALLVILLE out.  It's not getting any better.

>

>> Bummer. I've got #2 and #3 near at hand, but I haven't read them yet. I

>> was hoping that #1 was just a stumble out of the gate...

>

> Nope.  #1 is a fair representation of the series to date.


And that's the sort of thing that ruins the rep of comics and comic
book continuations.

===
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