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Fri, 26 August 2011 04:09  |
Duggy
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On Aug 26, 2:23Â pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> I'm amazed it took this long; Deadman is one of the few costumed comic
> characters that can reasonably translate to the screen.
The powers. The costume is explainable but a little silly looking.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94592 is a reply to message #94578] |
Fri, 26 August 2011 17:03  |
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:09:04 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
<p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 26, 2:23Â pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
>> I'm amazed it took this long; Deadman is one of the few costumed comic
>> characters that can reasonably translate to the screen.
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> The powers. The costume is explainable but a little silly looking.
The costume could be modified to something less exotic. I'm wondering
if the mask would be part of the image if a series does develop.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94593 is a reply to message #94592] |
Fri, 26 August 2011 19:14 |
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Once Upon A Time,
Lilith wrote:
> The costume could be modified to something less exotic. I'm wondering
> if the mask would be part of the image if a series does develop.
Mask? His head is pretty much a skull, he doesn't wear a mask.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94594 is a reply to message #94592] |
Fri, 26 August 2011 20:20 |
anim8rFSK
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In article <ve2g57hm12g4urj71qfcb8737vvvubuit3@4ax.com>,
Lilith <lilithpap@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:09:04 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
> <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Aug 26, 2:23 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> I'm amazed it took this long; Deadman is one of the few costumed comic
>>> characters that can reasonably translate to the screen.
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>> The powers. The costume is explainable but a little silly looking.
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> The costume could be modified to something less exotic. I'm wondering
> if the mask would be part of the image if a series does develop.
or do the emaciated Deadman as CGI; most of the time he's gonna be in
somebody else anyway.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94595 is a reply to message #94594] |
Fri, 26 August 2011 20:29 |
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:20:00 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
> In article <ve2g57hm12g4urj71qfcb8737vvvubuit3@4ax.com>,
> Lilith <lilithpap@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:09:04 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
>> <p.allan.duggan@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Aug 26, 2:23Â pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> I'm amazed it took this long; Deadman is one of the few costumed comic
>>>> characters that can reasonably translate to the screen.
>>>
>>> The powers. The costume is explainable but a little silly looking.
>>
>> The costume could be modified to something less exotic. I'm wondering
>> if the mask would be part of the image if a series does develop.
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> or do the emaciated Deadman as CGI; most of the time he's gonna be in
> somebody else anyway.
True...and that could be cool...but I think it's unlikely they would
do the main character of a series that way...probably not even with a
mask unless it was something he didn't wear most of the time.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94596 is a reply to message #94593] |
Fri, 26 August 2011 22:17 |
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:15 -0400, Captain Infinity
<Infinity@captaininfinity.us> wrote:
> Once Upon A Time,
> Lilith wrote:
>
>> The costume could be modified to something less exotic. I'm wondering
>> if the mask would be part of the image if a series does develop.
>
> Mask? His head is pretty much a skull, he doesn't wear a mask.
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I beg to differ. Boston Brand was a trapeze artist who performed
under the name of Deadman because he presented the fact that every
time he performed he was risking his life. His trapeze act included
the red costume with the high collar. And it also included him
wearing a mask designed to look like a skull. Because he was killed
while wearing the costume, complete with mask, it became his default
presentation. On the very rare occasions that he became corporeal he
was wont to remove the mask and expose his human face.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94597 is a reply to message #94596] |
Sat, 27 August 2011 00:31 |
grinningdemon
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:17:27 -0500, Lilith <lilithpap@gmail.com>
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> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:15 -0400, Captain Infinity
> <Infinity@captaininfinity.us> wrote:
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>> Once Upon A Time,
>> Lilith wrote:
>>
>>> The costume could be modified to something less exotic. I'm wondering
>>> if the mask would be part of the image if a series does develop.
>>
>> Mask? His head is pretty much a skull, he doesn't wear a mask.
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>> Captain Infinity
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> I beg to differ. Boston Brand was a trapeze artist who performed
> under the name of Deadman because he presented the fact that every
> time he performed he was risking his life. His trapeze act included
> the red costume with the high collar. And it also included him
> wearing a mask designed to look like a skull. Because he was killed
> while wearing the costume, complete with mask, it became his default
> presentation. On the very rare occasions that he became corporeal he
> was wont to remove the mask and expose his human face.
You're right, of course, but there are times when he is shown as
basically a skeleton in the costume...I assume that's what he's
talking about.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94598 is a reply to message #94596] |
Sat, 27 August 2011 08:53 |
Captain Infinity
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Once Upon A Time,
Lilith wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:15 -0400, Captain Infinity
> <Infinity@captaininfinity.us> wrote:
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>> Once Upon A Time,
>> Lilith wrote:
>>
>>> The costume could be modified to something less exotic. I'm wondering
>>> if the mask would be part of the image if a series does develop.
>>
>> Mask? His head is pretty much a skull, he doesn't wear a mask.
>
> I beg to differ. Boston Brand was a trapeze artist who performed
> under the name of Deadman because he presented the fact that every
> time he performed he was risking his life. His trapeze act included
> the red costume with the high collar. And it also included him
> wearing a mask designed to look like a skull. Because he was killed
> while wearing the costume, complete with mask, it became his default
> presentation. On the very rare occasions that he became corporeal he
> was wont to remove the mask and expose his human face.
Cool, thank you for educating me.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94599 is a reply to message #94597] |
Sat, 27 August 2011 20:22 |
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 23:31:59 -0500, grinningdemon
<grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:17:27 -0500, Lilith <lilithpap@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:15 -0400, Captain Infinity
>> <Infinity@captaininfinity.us> wrote:
>>
>>> Once Upon A Time,
>>> Lilith wrote:
>>>
>>>> The costume could be modified to something less exotic. I'm wondering
>>>> if the mask would be part of the image if a series does develop.
>>>
>>> Mask? His head is pretty much a skull, he doesn't wear a mask.
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>> Captain Infinity
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>> I beg to differ. Boston Brand was a trapeze artist who performed
>> under the name of Deadman because he presented the fact that every
>> time he performed he was risking his life. His trapeze act included
>> the red costume with the high collar. And it also included him
>> wearing a mask designed to look like a skull. Because he was killed
>> while wearing the costume, complete with mask, it became his default
>> presentation. On the very rare occasions that he became corporeal he
>> was wont to remove the mask and expose his human face.
>
> You're right, of course, but there are times when he is shown as
> basically a skeleton in the costume...I assume that's what he's
> talking about.
That only came about in the late '80s with the Deadman: Love After
Death miniseries drawn by Kelley Jones. Jones was the first to draw
Boston as an emaciated skeleton man; for the two decades before then,
he was always depicted with normal human (or quasi-superheroic human)
musculature.
Also, I always saw the pre-Jones Deadman mask as being more like a
ghoulish undead type than a skull. But nontheless, Lilith's larger
point is correct, Boston's facial appearance as Deadman was originally
identical to that of the cloth mask he wore as a trapeze artist.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94612 is a reply to message #94599] |
Sun, 28 August 2011 00:12 |
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:22:09 -0500, Tim Turnip <timturnip@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 23:31:59 -0500, grinningdemon
> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:
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>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:17:27 -0500, Lilith <lilithpap@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:15 -0400, Captain Infinity
>>> <Infinity@captaininfinity.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Once Upon A Time,
>>>> Lilith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >The costume could be modified to something less exotic. I'm wondering
>>>> >if the mask would be part of the image if a series does develop.
>>>>
>>>> Mask? His head is pretty much a skull, he doesn't wear a mask.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>> Captain Infinity
>>>
>>> I beg to differ. Boston Brand was a trapeze artist who performed
>>> under the name of Deadman because he presented the fact that every
>>> time he performed he was risking his life. His trapeze act included
>>> the red costume with the high collar. And it also included him
>>> wearing a mask designed to look like a skull. Because he was killed
>>> while wearing the costume, complete with mask, it became his default
>>> presentation. On the very rare occasions that he became corporeal he
>>> was wont to remove the mask and expose his human face.
>>
>> You're right, of course, but there are times when he is shown as
>> basically a skeleton in the costume...I assume that's what he's
>> talking about.
>
> That only came about in the late '80s with the Deadman: Love After
> Death miniseries drawn by Kelley Jones. Jones was the first to draw
> Boston as an emaciated skeleton man; for the two decades before then,
> he was always depicted with normal human (or quasi-superheroic human)
> musculature.
I was actually thinking more of Kingdom Come than the Kelley Jones
version.
> Also, I always saw the pre-Jones Deadman mask as being more like a
> ghoulish undead type than a skull. But nontheless, Lilith's larger
> point is correct, Boston's facial appearance as Deadman was originally
> identical to that of the cloth mask he wore as a trapeze artist.
Which is why I said she was right.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94614 is a reply to message #94612] |
Sun, 28 August 2011 06:24 |
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:12:09 -0500, grinningdemon
<grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> That only came about in the late '80s with the Deadman: Love After
>> Death miniseries drawn by Kelley Jones. Jones was the first to draw
>> Boston as an emaciated skeleton man; for the two decades before then,
>> he was always depicted with normal human (or quasi-superheroic human)
>> musculature.
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> I was actually thinking more of Kingdom Come than the Kelley Jones
> version.
Right -- Ross took the Jones interpretation all the way and made
Deadman an actual skeleton. I forgot about that.
>> Also, I always saw the pre-Jones Deadman mask as being more like a
>> ghoulish undead type than a skull. But nontheless, Lilith's larger
>> point is correct, Boston's facial appearance as Deadman was originally
>> identical to that of the cloth mask he wore as a trapeze artist.
>
> Which is why I said she was right.
Which would make you right too -- that was more for the poster who
insisted that Deadman did not wear a mask. (Not only did he wear a
real mask before dying, he called himself Deadman and wore the D even
as a mortal trapeze artist!) But I guess the actual point is how they
will depict him in this new TV series if it ever gets off the ground,
and that could go in almost any direction. However, I think they will
try to make him look as human as possible, to boost audience
identification, while still getting across that he is a ghost. I
personally prefer the Bronze Age "superhero" look for Boston
(especially when drawn by Neal Adams or Matt Wagner) but that's just
me.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94615 is a reply to message #94614] |
Sun, 28 August 2011 06:31 |
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On Aug 28, 6:24Â am, Tim Turnip <timtur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:12:09 -0500, grinningdemon
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> <grinningde...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>> That only came about in the late '80s with the Deadman: Love After
>>> Death miniseries drawn by Kelley Jones. Â Jones was the first to draw
>>> Boston as an emaciated skeleton man; for the two decades before then,
>>> he was always depicted with normal human (or quasi-superheroic human)
>>> musculature.
>
>> I was actually thinking more of Kingdom Come than the Kelley Jones
>> version.
>
> Right -- Ross took the Jones interpretation all the way and made
> Deadman an actual skeleton. Â I forgot about that.
>
>>> Also, I always saw the pre-Jones Deadman mask as being more like a
>>> ghoulish undead type than a skull. Â But nontheless, Lilith's larger
>>> point is correct, Boston's facial appearance as Deadman was originally
>>> identical to that of the cloth mask he wore as a trapeze artist.
>
>> Which is why I said she was right.
>
> Which would make you right too -- that was more for the poster who
> insisted that Deadman did not wear a mask. Â (Not only did he wear a
> real mask before dying, he called himself Deadman and wore the D even
> as a mortal trapeze artist!) Â But I guess the actual point is how they
> will depict him in this new TV series if it ever gets off the ground,
> and that could go in almost any direction. Â However, I think they will
> try to make him look as human as possible, to boost audience
> identification, while still getting across that he is a ghost. Â I
> personally prefer the Bronze Age "superhero" look for Boston
> (especially when drawn by Neal Adams or Matt Wagner) but that's just
> me.
My guess...if they go with him dieing while doing his act, he'll be
wearing his aerialist costume--which probably won't look like the one
in the comics.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94616 is a reply to message #94599] |
Sun, 28 August 2011 07:56 |
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On Aug 28, 10:22Â am, Tim Turnip <timtur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That only came about in the late '80s with the Deadman: Love After
> Death miniseries drawn by Kelley Jones. Â Jones was the first to draw
> Boston as an emaciated skeleton man; for the two decades before then,
> he was always depicted with normal human (or quasi-superheroic human)
> musculature.
To be fair, Jones makes all his characters look that way.
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Sun, 28 August 2011 09:00 |
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There's also the National Lampoon. Wealthy wastrel dies, and leaves
his fortune to a relative on the condition that he rehabilitate the
dead man's reputation. So the guy dresses up the corpse in a superhero
costume and drops it onto ongoing robberies and other crimes to break
them up.
Kind of like a mix between "Batman", "Weekend at Bernie's" and the end
of "El Cid".
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94619 is a reply to message #94614] |
Sun, 28 August 2011 13:32 |
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:24:48 -0500, Tim Turnip <timturnip@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:12:09 -0500, grinningdemon
> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>> That only came about in the late '80s with the Deadman: Love After
>>> Death miniseries drawn by Kelley Jones. Jones was the first to draw
>>> Boston as an emaciated skeleton man; for the two decades before then,
>>> he was always depicted with normal human (or quasi-superheroic human)
>>> musculature.
>>
>> I was actually thinking more of Kingdom Come than the Kelley Jones
>> version.
>
> Right -- Ross took the Jones interpretation all the way and made
> Deadman an actual skeleton. I forgot about that.
>
>>> Also, I always saw the pre-Jones Deadman mask as being more like a
>>> ghoulish undead type than a skull. But nontheless, Lilith's larger
>>> point is correct, Boston's facial appearance as Deadman was originally
>>> identical to that of the cloth mask he wore as a trapeze artist.
>>
>> Which is why I said she was right.
>
> Which would make you right too -- that was more for the poster who
> insisted that Deadman did not wear a mask. (Not only did he wear a
> real mask before dying, he called himself Deadman and wore the D even
> as a mortal trapeze artist!) But I guess the actual point is how they
> will depict him in this new TV series if it ever gets off the ground,
> and that could go in almost any direction. However, I think they will
> try to make him look as human as possible, to boost audience
> identification, while still getting across that he is a ghost. I
> personally prefer the Bronze Age "superhero" look for Boston
> (especially when drawn by Neal Adams or Matt Wagner) but that's just
> me.
I'm wondering also if the actor would have trouble with wearing a full
face mask, much like Toby Maguirre did as Spider-Man. Not much screen
time for the actor to be recognized and associated with the part let
alone potential future professional hires.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94620 is a reply to message #94614] |
Sun, 28 August 2011 13:42 |
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:24:48 -0500, Tim Turnip <timturnip@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:12:09 -0500, grinningdemon
> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>> That only came about in the late '80s with the Deadman: Love After
>>> Death miniseries drawn by Kelley Jones. Jones was the first to draw
>>> Boston as an emaciated skeleton man; for the two decades before then,
>>> he was always depicted with normal human (or quasi-superheroic human)
>>> musculature.
>>
>> I was actually thinking more of Kingdom Come than the Kelley Jones
>> version.
>
> Right -- Ross took the Jones interpretation all the way and made
> Deadman an actual skeleton. I forgot about that.
>
>>> Also, I always saw the pre-Jones Deadman mask as being more like a
>>> ghoulish undead type than a skull. But nontheless, Lilith's larger
>>> point is correct, Boston's facial appearance as Deadman was originally
>>> identical to that of the cloth mask he wore as a trapeze artist.
>>
>> Which is why I said she was right.
>
> Which would make you right too -- that was more for the poster who
> insisted that Deadman did not wear a mask. (Not only did he wear a
> real mask before dying, he called himself Deadman and wore the D even
> as a mortal trapeze artist!) But I guess the actual point is how they
> will depict him in this new TV series if it ever gets off the ground,
> and that could go in almost any direction. However, I think they will
> try to make him look as human as possible, to boost audience
> identification, while still getting across that he is a ghost. I
> personally prefer the Bronze Age "superhero" look for Boston
> (especially when drawn by Neal Adams or Matt Wagner) but that's just
> me.
I agree...and I pretty much already said that too.
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Sun, 28 August 2011 16:42 |
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In article <hpuk571mutgfg1ipr9hbhbrq1ogoeu1p32@4ax.com>,
Lilith <lilithpap@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:24:48 -0500, Tim Turnip <timturnip@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:12:09 -0500, grinningdemon
>> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> That only came about in the late '80s with the Deadman: Love After
>>>> Death miniseries drawn by Kelley Jones. Jones was the first to draw
>>>> Boston as an emaciated skeleton man; for the two decades before then,
>>>> he was always depicted with normal human (or quasi-superheroic human)
>>>> musculature.
>>>
>>> I was actually thinking more of Kingdom Come than the Kelley Jones
>>> version.
>>
>> Right -- Ross took the Jones interpretation all the way and made
>> Deadman an actual skeleton. I forgot about that.
>>
>>>> Also, I always saw the pre-Jones Deadman mask as being more like a
>>>> ghoulish undead type than a skull. But nontheless, Lilith's larger
>>>> point is correct, Boston's facial appearance as Deadman was originally
>>>> identical to that of the cloth mask he wore as a trapeze artist.
>>>
>>> Which is why I said she was right.
>>
>> Which would make you right too -- that was more for the poster who
>> insisted that Deadman did not wear a mask. (Not only did he wear a
>> real mask before dying, he called himself Deadman and wore the D even
>> as a mortal trapeze artist!) But I guess the actual point is how they
>> will depict him in this new TV series if it ever gets off the ground,
>> and that could go in almost any direction. However, I think they will
>> try to make him look as human as possible, to boost audience
>> identification, while still getting across that he is a ghost. I
>> personally prefer the Bronze Age "superhero" look for Boston
>> (especially when drawn by Neal Adams or Matt Wagner) but that's just
>> me.
>
> I'm wondering also if the actor would have trouble with wearing a full
> face mask, much like Toby Maguirre did as Spider-Man. Not much screen
> time for the actor to be recognized and associated with the part let
> alone potential future professional hires.
Even though it's presented as a rubber mask when he pulls it off, it's
really more like white greasepaint. And don't forget, Deadman always
had lots of flashbacks to living Boston. And there's always Cleveland.
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Sun, 28 August 2011 17:08 |
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:42:23 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
> In article <hpuk571mutgfg1ipr9hbhbrq1ogoeu1p32@4ax.com>,
> Lilith <lilithpap@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:24:48 -0500, Tim Turnip <timturnip@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:12:09 -0500, grinningdemon
>>> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> >That only came about in the late '80s with the Deadman: Love After
>>>> >Death miniseries drawn by Kelley Jones. Jones was the first to draw
>>>> >Boston as an emaciated skeleton man; for the two decades before then,
>>>> >he was always depicted with normal human (or quasi-superheroic human)
>>>> >musculature.
>>>>
>>>> I was actually thinking more of Kingdom Come than the Kelley Jones
>>>> version.
>>>
>>> Right -- Ross took the Jones interpretation all the way and made
>>> Deadman an actual skeleton. I forgot about that.
>>>
>>>> >Also, I always saw the pre-Jones Deadman mask as being more like a
>>>> >ghoulish undead type than a skull. But nontheless, Lilith's larger
>>>> >point is correct, Boston's facial appearance as Deadman was originally
>>>> >identical to that of the cloth mask he wore as a trapeze artist.
>>>>
>>>> Which is why I said she was right.
>>>
>>> Which would make you right too -- that was more for the poster who
>>> insisted that Deadman did not wear a mask. (Not only did he wear a
>>> real mask before dying, he called himself Deadman and wore the D even
>>> as a mortal trapeze artist!) But I guess the actual point is how they
>>> will depict him in this new TV series if it ever gets off the ground,
>>> and that could go in almost any direction. However, I think they will
>>> try to make him look as human as possible, to boost audience
>>> identification, while still getting across that he is a ghost. I
>>> personally prefer the Bronze Age "superhero" look for Boston
>>> (especially when drawn by Neal Adams or Matt Wagner) but that's just
>>> me.
>>
>> I'm wondering also if the actor would have trouble with wearing a full
>> face mask, much like Toby Maguirre did as Spider-Man. Not much screen
>> time for the actor to be recognized and associated with the part let
>> alone potential future professional hires.
>
> Even though it's presented as a rubber mask when he pulls it off, it's
> really more like white greasepaint. And don't forget, Deadman always
> had lots of flashbacks to living Boston. And there's always Cleveland.
I do remember the panel where Boston is sitting at a vanity while
prepping for his act just before he was killed. There *was* a stick
that he was applying to his face gut I always assumed that that was
just him either gluing down the eye edges of the mask or filling in
with black on his real flesh to blend in with the black-ringed eye
holes of the mask.
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Sun, 28 August 2011 18:30 |
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Lilith sent the following on 8/28/2011 12:32 PM:
> On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:24:48 -0500, Tim Turnip<timturnip@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:12:09 -0500, grinningdemon
>> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was actually thinking more of Kingdom Come than the Kelley Jones
>>> version.
>>
>> Right -- Ross took the Jones interpretation all the way and made
>> Deadman an actual skeleton. I forgot about that.
>>
>>> Which is why I said she was right.
>>
>> Which would make you right too -- that was more for the poster who
>> insisted that Deadman did not wear a mask. (Not only did he wear a
>> real mask before dying, he called himself Deadman and wore the D even
>> as a mortal trapeze artist!) But I guess the actual point is how they
>> will depict him in this new TV series if it ever gets off the ground,
>> and that could go in almost any direction. However, I think they will
>> try to make him look as human as possible, to boost audience
>> identification, while still getting across that he is a ghost. I
>> personally prefer the Bronze Age "superhero" look for Boston
>> (especially when drawn by Neal Adams or Matt Wagner) but that's just
>> me.
>
> I'm wondering also if the actor would have trouble with wearing a full
> face mask, much like Toby Maguirre did as Spider-Man. Not much screen
> time for the actor to be recognized and associated with the part let
> alone potential future professional hires.
Do you really believe that there was anyone in Hollywood who mattered in
this context who was unaware that it was Maguire beneath the mask?
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Sun, 28 August 2011 22:20 |
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In article <u8bl57d4tgnlhnhdicu145uc22uj6m18vg@4ax.com>,
Lilith <lilithpap@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:42:23 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <hpuk571mutgfg1ipr9hbhbrq1ogoeu1p32@4ax.com>,
>> Lilith <lilithpap@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:24:48 -0500, Tim Turnip <timturnip@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:12:09 -0500, grinningdemon
>>>> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> >>That only came about in the late '80s with the Deadman: Love After
>>>> >>Death miniseries drawn by Kelley Jones. Jones was the first to draw
>>>> >>Boston as an emaciated skeleton man; for the two decades before then,
>>>> >>he was always depicted with normal human (or quasi-superheroic human)
>>>> >>musculature.
>>>> >
>>>> >I was actually thinking more of Kingdom Come than the Kelley Jones
>>>> >version.
>>>>
>>>> Right -- Ross took the Jones interpretation all the way and made
>>>> Deadman an actual skeleton. I forgot about that.
>>>>
>>>> >>Also, I always saw the pre-Jones Deadman mask as being more like a
>>>> >>ghoulish undead type than a skull. But nontheless, Lilith's larger
>>>> >>point is correct, Boston's facial appearance as Deadman was originally
>>>> >>identical to that of the cloth mask he wore as a trapeze artist.
>>>> >
>>>> >Which is why I said she was right.
>>>>
>>>> Which would make you right too -- that was more for the poster who
>>>> insisted that Deadman did not wear a mask. (Not only did he wear a
>>>> real mask before dying, he called himself Deadman and wore the D even
>>>> as a mortal trapeze artist!) But I guess the actual point is how they
>>>> will depict him in this new TV series if it ever gets off the ground,
>>>> and that could go in almost any direction. However, I think they will
>>>> try to make him look as human as possible, to boost audience
>>>> identification, while still getting across that he is a ghost. I
>>>> personally prefer the Bronze Age "superhero" look for Boston
>>>> (especially when drawn by Neal Adams or Matt Wagner) but that's just
>>>> me.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering also if the actor would have trouble with wearing a full
>>> face mask, much like Toby Maguirre did as Spider-Man. Not much screen
>>> time for the actor to be recognized and associated with the part let
>>> alone potential future professional hires.
>>
>> Even though it's presented as a rubber mask when he pulls it off, it's
>> really more like white greasepaint. And don't forget, Deadman always
>> had lots of flashbacks to living Boston. And there's always Cleveland.
>
> I do remember the panel where Boston is sitting at a vanity while
> prepping for his act just before he was killed. There *was* a stick
> that he was applying to his face gut I always assumed that that was
> just him either gluing down the eye edges of the mask or filling in
> with black on his real flesh to blend in with the black-ringed eye
> holes of the mask.
Yeah. I always thought it was a baldcap over the hair and ears and
greasepaint, but I'm sure we've seen him pull it off as one big over the
head rubber mask (apparently reusable) in later issues. Hmm. Maybe he
only did that after he was dead when it didn't count. :D
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Sun, 28 August 2011 22:38 |
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:30:57 -0500, "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com>
wrote:
> Lilith sent the following on 8/28/2011 12:32 PM:
>> On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:24:48 -0500, Tim Turnip<timturnip@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:12:09 -0500, grinningdemon
>>> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was actually thinking more of Kingdom Come than the Kelley Jones
>>>> version.
>>>
>>> Right -- Ross took the Jones interpretation all the way and made
>>> Deadman an actual skeleton. I forgot about that.
>>>
>>>> Which is why I said she was right.
>>>
>>> Which would make you right too -- that was more for the poster who
>>> insisted that Deadman did not wear a mask. (Not only did he wear a
>>> real mask before dying, he called himself Deadman and wore the D even
>>> as a mortal trapeze artist!) But I guess the actual point is how they
>>> will depict him in this new TV series if it ever gets off the ground,
>>> and that could go in almost any direction. However, I think they will
>>> try to make him look as human as possible, to boost audience
>>> identification, while still getting across that he is a ghost. I
>>> personally prefer the Bronze Age "superhero" look for Boston
>>> (especially when drawn by Neal Adams or Matt Wagner) but that's just
>>> me.
>>
>> I'm wondering also if the actor would have trouble with wearing a full
>> face mask, much like Toby Maguirre did as Spider-Man. Not much screen
>> time for the actor to be recognized and associated with the part let
>> alone potential future professional hires.
> Do you really believe that there was anyone in Hollywood who mattered in
> this context who was unaware that it was Maguire beneath the mask?
Maguire's concern was that we wouldn't be able to see his facial
expressions under the mask. Of course, Peter Parker got more face
time than Spider-Man got mask time in any of the movies. Not the Emo
Parker was great acting.
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Sun, 28 August 2011 23:06 |
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:38:25 -0500, Lilith <lilithpap@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:30:57 -0500, "Jim G." <jimgysin@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Lilith sent the following on 8/28/2011 12:32 PM:
>>> On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:24:48 -0500, Tim Turnip<timturnip@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:12:09 -0500, grinningdemon
>>>> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I was actually thinking more of Kingdom Come than the Kelley Jones
>>>> > version.
>>>>
>>>> Right -- Ross took the Jones interpretation all the way and made
>>>> Deadman an actual skeleton. I forgot about that.
>>>>
>>>> > Which is why I said she was right.
>>>>
>>>> Which would make you right too -- that was more for the poster who
>>>> insisted that Deadman did not wear a mask. (Not only did he wear a
>>>> real mask before dying, he called himself Deadman and wore the D even
>>>> as a mortal trapeze artist!) But I guess the actual point is how they
>>>> will depict him in this new TV series if it ever gets off the ground,
>>>> and that could go in almost any direction. However, I think they will
>>>> try to make him look as human as possible, to boost audience
>>>> identification, while still getting across that he is a ghost. I
>>>> personally prefer the Bronze Age "superhero" look for Boston
>>>> (especially when drawn by Neal Adams or Matt Wagner) but that's just
>>>> me.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering also if the actor would have trouble with wearing a full
>>> face mask, much like Toby Maguirre did as Spider-Man. Not much screen
>>> time for the actor to be recognized and associated with the part let
>>> alone potential future professional hires.
>
>> Do you really believe that there was anyone in Hollywood who mattered in
>> this context who was unaware that it was Maguire beneath the mask?
>
> Maguire's concern was that we wouldn't be able to see his facial
> expressions under the mask. Of course, Peter Parker got more face
> time than Spider-Man got mask time in any of the movies. Not the Emo
> Parker was great acting.
Maguire has facial expressions? I must have missed that part.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94634 is a reply to message #94619] |
Mon, 29 August 2011 06:39 |
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On Aug 29, 3:32Â am, Lilith <lilith...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm wondering also if the actor would have trouble with wearing a full
> face mask, much like Toby Maguirre did as Spider-Man. Â Not much screen
> time for the actor to be recognized and associated with the part let
> alone potential future professional hires.
Depends.
If they go the Quantum Leap way and have the Boston actor playing the
person he's in then it's a big role for the actor... if not it's a
smaller role than the normal lead anyway.
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Mon, 29 August 2011 13:12 |
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Lilith sent the following on 8/28/2011 9:38 PM:
> On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:30:57 -0500, "Jim G."<jimgysin@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Lilith sent the following on 8/28/2011 12:32 PM:
>>> On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:24:48 -0500, Tim Turnip<timturnip@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:12:09 -0500, grinningdemon
>>>> <grinningdemon@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I was actually thinking more of Kingdom Come than the Kelley Jones
>>>> > version.
>>>>
>>>> Right -- Ross took the Jones interpretation all the way and made
>>>> Deadman an actual skeleton. I forgot about that.
>>>>
>>>> > Which is why I said she was right.
>>>>
>>>> Which would make you right too -- that was more for the poster who
>>>> insisted that Deadman did not wear a mask. (Not only did he wear a
>>>> real mask before dying, he called himself Deadman and wore the D even
>>>> as a mortal trapeze artist!) But I guess the actual point is how they
>>>> will depict him in this new TV series if it ever gets off the ground,
>>>> and that could go in almost any direction. However, I think they will
>>>> try to make him look as human as possible, to boost audience
>>>> identification, while still getting across that he is a ghost. I
>>>> personally prefer the Bronze Age "superhero" look for Boston
>>>> (especially when drawn by Neal Adams or Matt Wagner) but that's just
>>>> me.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering also if the actor would have trouble with wearing a full
>>> face mask, much like Toby Maguirre did as Spider-Man. Not much screen
>>> time for the actor to be recognized and associated with the part let
>>> alone potential future professional hires.
>
>> Do you really believe that there was anyone in Hollywood who mattered in
>> this context who was unaware that it was Maguire beneath the mask?
>
> Maguire's concern was that we wouldn't be able to see his facial
> expressions under the mask.
Gift horse ... mouth ...
> Of course, Peter Parker got more face
> time than Spider-Man got mask time in any of the movies. Not the Emo
> Parker was great acting.
IMO, the reason his career didn't take off after Spidey was precisely
because there weren't a lot of other roles that would allow him to mask
his various shortcomings.
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Waukesha, WI
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Mon, 29 August 2011 21:41 |
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 03:39:47 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
<Paul.Duggan@jcu.edu.au> wrote:
> On Aug 29, 3:32Â am, Lilith <lilith...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm wondering also if the actor would have trouble with wearing a full
>> face mask, much like Toby Maguirre did as Spider-Man. Â Not much screen
>> time for the actor to be recognized and associated with the part let
>> alone potential future professional hires.
>
> Depends.
>
> If they go the Quantum Leap way and have the Boston actor playing the
> person he's in then it's a big role for the actor... if not it's a
> smaller role than the normal lead anyway.
True. Then again, IMS, most of what Boston did was to research things
from the spirit world and usually took over someone's body for a
relatively brief amount of time, either to get them out of trouble,
get someone else out of trouble or get information in a more expedient
manner. He seldom occupied a body for too long. Of course, a TV
series doesn't need to be written to the same formula.
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Tue, 30 August 2011 03:50 |
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On Aug 30, 11:41Â am, Lilith <lilith...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 03:39:47 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
>
> <Paul.Dug...@jcu.edu.au> wrote:
>> On Aug 29, 3:32Â am, Lilith <lilith...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm wondering also if the actor would have trouble with wearing a full
>>> face mask, much like Toby Maguirre did as Spider-Man. Â Not much screen
>>> time for the actor to be recognized and associated with the part let
>>> alone potential future professional hires.
>
>> Depends.
>
>> If they go the Quantum Leap way and have the Boston actor playing the
>> person he's in then it's a big role for the actor... if not it's a
>> smaller role than the normal lead anyway.
>
> True. Â Then again, IMS, most of what Boston did was to research things
> from the spirit world and usually took over someone's body for a
> relatively brief amount of time, either to get them out of trouble,
> get someone else out of trouble or get information in a more expedient
> manner. Â He seldom occupied a body for too long. Â Of course, a TV
> series doesn't need to be written to the same formula.
True... but I thought about it if you were doing the QL thing he'd
still be in costume or white/mask faced at least.
And for a TV show you'd want to reduce costs... FX skull face would
cost a lot more than white face/mask.
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Wed, 31 August 2011 02:18 |
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On 28/08/2011 1:32 PM, Lilith wrote:
> I'm wondering also if the actor would have trouble with wearing a full
> face mask, much like Toby Maguirre did as Spider-Man. Not much screen
> time for the actor to be recognized and associated with the part let
> alone potential future professional hires.
There were a lot of scenes with Toby as Peter Parker (no costume on) in
each Spider-Man film.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94647 is a reply to message #94595] |
Wed, 31 August 2011 02:24 |
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On 26/08/2011 8:29 PM, grinningdemon wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:20:00 -0700, Anim8rFSK<ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> most of the time he's gonna be in somebody else anyway.
>
> True...and that could be cool...but I think it's unlikely they would
> do the main character of a series that way...
They did in Quantum Leap -- but they showed the somebody-else as Sam
Beckett while Beckett was in them...
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Wed, 31 August 2011 13:49 |
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"kensi" <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.de> wrote in message
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> On 26/08/2011 8:29 PM, grinningdemon wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:20:00 -0700, Anim8rFSK<ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> most of the time he's gonna be in somebody else anyway.
>>
>> True...and that could be cool...but I think it's unlikely they would
>> do the main character of a series that way...
>
> They did in Quantum Leap -- but they showed the somebody-else as Sam
> Beckett while Beckett was in them...
Only when he saw his reflection. Everyone else saw him as the other person.
The audience saw him as Sam Beckett, and only saw the other person in the
mirror, or if they did a scene back in the "present".
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Wed, 31 August 2011 15:12 |
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On 31/08/2011 1:49 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
> "kensi" <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.de> wrote in message
> news:j3kk30$lu9$2@speranza.aioe.org...
>> They did in Quantum Leap -- but they showed the somebody-else as Sam
>> Beckett while Beckett was in them...
>
> Only when he saw his reflection. Everyone else saw him as the other
> person. The audience saw him as Sam Beckett, and only saw the other
> person in the mirror, or if they did a scene back in the "present".
That's what I said -- the audience saw him as Beckett.
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"kensi" <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.de> wrote in message
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> On 31/08/2011 1:49 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
>> "kensi" <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.de> wrote in message
>> news:j3kk30$lu9$2@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> They did in Quantum Leap -- but they showed the somebody-else as Sam
>>> Beckett while Beckett was in them...
>>
>> Only when he saw his reflection. Everyone else saw him as the other
>> person. The audience saw him as Sam Beckett, and only saw the other
>> person in the mirror, or if they did a scene back in the "present".
>
> That's what I said -- the audience saw him as Beckett.
If that's what you were saying, all I can say is, your sentence structure is
confusing. Rereading it, I see you were talking about back in the "present"
when you said they showed "somebody-else as Sam Beckett while Beckett was in
them..."?
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On 31/08/2011 7:21 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
> If that's what you were saying, all I can say is, your sentence
> structure is confusing. Rereading it, I see you were talking about back
> in the "present" when you said they showed "somebody-else as Sam Beckett
> while Beckett was in them..."?
???
No, in the past, obviously, is when Beckett is in somebody else, who is
shown as Beckett ...
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"kensi" <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.de> wrote in message
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> On 31/08/2011 7:21 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
>> If that's what you were saying, all I can say is, your sentence
>> structure is confusing. Rereading it, I see you were talking about back
>> in the "present" when you said they showed "somebody-else as Sam Beckett
>> while Beckett was in them..."?
>
> ???
>
> No, in the past, obviously, is when Beckett is in somebody else, who is
> shown as Beckett ...
>
Well, that just makes your sentence structure more confusing.
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Sun, 04 September 2011 20:14 |
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On Sep 1, 5:12Â am, kensi <kensi_kensing...@zoonoses.de> wrote:
> On 31/08/2011 1:49 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
>
>> "kensi" <kensi_kensing...@zoonoses.de> wrote in message
>> news:j3kk30$lu9$2@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> They did in Quantum Leap -- but they showed the somebody-else as Sam
>>> Beckett while Beckett was in them...
>
>> Only when he saw his reflection. Everyone else saw him as the other
>> person. The audience saw him as Sam Beckett, and only saw the other
>> person in the mirror, or if they did a scene back in the "present".
>
> That's what I said -- the audience saw him as Beckett.
Because he was Beckett... but there image of the real person that he
and everyone else could see. Except small children, the mentally ill
and animals.
This means he could swim as a monkey and walk with no legs.
Of course that didn't make much sense and all the problems that would
have occured because of that weren't shown.
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On 05/09/2011 11:28 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
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> "kensi" <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.de> wrote in message
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>> On 04/09/2011 1:19 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
>>> Well, that just makes your sentence structure more confusing.
>>
>> And I should care about your opinion because ... ?
>
> *grin* Didn't say you should. Any more than I should care about yours.
> As far as I can tell, you don't generally have any trouble communicating.
As compared to ... ?
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In article
<eed7be0a-b681-4d31-a461-3ee3a521c15f@v16g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
Duggy <Paul.Duggan@jcu.edu.au> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 5:12 am, kensi <kensi kensing...@zoonoses.de> wrote:
>> On 31/08/2011 1:49 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
>>
>>> "kensi" <kensi kensing...@zoonoses.de> wrote in message
>>> news:j3kk30$lu9$2@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>> They did in Quantum Leap -- but they showed the somebody-else as Sam
>>>> Beckett while Beckett was in them...
>>
>>> Only when he saw his reflection. Everyone else saw him as the other
>>> person. The audience saw him as Sam Beckett, and only saw the other
>>> person in the mirror, or if they did a scene back in the "present".
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>> That's what I said -- the audience saw him as Beckett.
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> Because he was Beckett... but there image of the real person that he
> and everyone else could see. Except small children, the mentally ill
> and animals.
>
> This means he could swim as a monkey and walk with no legs.
>
> Of course that didn't make much sense and all the problems that would
> have occured because of that weren't shown.
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> = DUG.
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Of course, different writers had different takes on this. Some of the
writers thought Sam was really in the future chamber and some thought he
was really taking the other person's place (hence the walking without
legs). There were two women that wrote the tie in novels and each based
them on a different theory.
--
"Please, I can't die, I've never kissed an Asian woman!"
Shego on "Shat My Dad Says"
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94750 is a reply to message #94709] |
Sun, 11 September 2011 03:25 |
Adam H. Kerman
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> Of course, different writers [of Quantum Leap] had different takes
> on this. Some of the writers thought Sam was really in the future
> chamber and some thought he was really taking the other person's place
> (hence the walking without legs). There were two women that wrote the
> tie in novels and each based them on a different theory.
I thought the episode in which Sam was pregnant and gave birth was
very exciting. His body, her baby, birth didn't tear out his guts,
baby just appears in the chamber.
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| Re: DC Comics' "Deadman" being adapted by CW [message #94751 is a reply to message #94709] |
Sun, 11 September 2011 06:28 |
Duggy
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On Sep 11, 2:28Â pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <eed7be0a-b681-4d31-a461-3ee3a521c...@v16g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
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> Â Duggy <Paul.Dug...@jcu.edu.au> wrote:
>> On Sep 1, 5:12 am, kensi <kensi kensing...@zoonoses.de> wrote:
>>> On 31/08/2011 1:49 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
>
>>>> "kensi" <kensi kensing...@zoonoses.de> wrote in message
>>>> news:j3kk30$lu9$2@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>> > They did in Quantum Leap -- but they showed the somebody-else as Sam
>>>> > Beckett while Beckett was in them...
>
>>>> Only when he saw his reflection. Everyone else saw him as the other
>>>> person. The audience saw him as Sam Beckett, and only saw the other
>>>> person in the mirror, or if they did a scene back in the "present".
>
>>> That's what I said -- the audience saw him as Beckett.
>
>> Because he was Beckett... but there image of the real person that he
>> and everyone else could see. Â Except small children, the mentally ill
>> and animals.
>
>> This means he could swim as a monkey and walk with no legs.
>
>> Of course that didn't make much sense and all the problems that would
>> have occured because of that weren't shown.
> Of course, different writers had different takes on this. Â Some of the
> writers thought Sam was really in the future chamber and some thought he
> was really taking the other person's place (hence the walking without
> legs). Â There were two women that wrote the tie in novels and each based
> them on a different theory.
As is often the case with SF, fantasy, the supernatural and super-
powers.
It clearly works one way, except no one told all the writers.
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