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Wanted: Chameleon 4.0 [message #80399] Mon, 03 June 2013 23:22 Go to next message
gat is currently offline  gat
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Message-ID: <683@inuxd.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 11-Jan-85 09:40:06 EST
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Posted: Fri Jan 11 09:40:06 1985
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A recent article discussing telecommunications with the ATARI listed 
several terminal emulation programs including "Chameleon 4.0".  I 
have used Chameleon 2.0 for more than a year now and find it the best 
program for talking to Unix.  It was available from APX and included
the executable plus macro source.  Version 2.0 handles 80 columns by
providing horizontal screen scrolling (a mixed blessing) and provides
a reasonable emulation of a DEC VT52 or ADM 3A which makes using vi
easy.  It also provides a simple text-file upload/download capability.
The description of Chameleon 4.0 really caused me to drool--it has all 
the enhancements I've been wanting including XMODEM and KERMIT file 
transfer protocols, disk management functions, and support for 
smart modems.  

My problem is simply that the article gave no clue as to where I
could get Chameleon 4.0.  The article simply stated "[it] is a popular
terminal program in the public domain ..."  If anyone knows where I
can get the program (preferably with the source), I would really
appreciate it if you would send mail letting me know where!!

Glen A. Taylor
AT&T/Consumer Products
Indianapolis,IN
Re: Wanted: Chameleon 4.0 [message #80406 is a reply to message #80399] Mon, 03 June 2013 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Date: Sun, 13-Jan-85 11:16:28 EST
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The new version of the old favorite is not in the public
domain. But, read the latest issue of Antic magazine. In
it there is a small catalog of software that is available
from them that used to be from the now defunct APX. They
have made arrangements with several of the old APX authors
to market their stuff. Among them is Chameleon 4.2. It may
be order from them by calling thier toll free number and
asking for #AP113. It is priced at $19.95 + $3.00 s&h.
The number is 1-800-227-1617 Ext. 133. The catalog is
included in the magazine by subscription only and is not
in the ones available by single copy in the stores, so as
a service I will post the entire catalog, if there is any
interest. Let me know either by post or mail if you would
like it posted on a regular basis.


Clancy Malloy
AT&T Bell Labs
Indian Hill
(..!ihu1n!freak)
Re: Wanted: Chameleon 4.0 [message #80409 is a reply to message #80399] Mon, 03 June 2013 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Message-ID: <373@bonnie.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 14-Jan-85 14:35:23 EST
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[color=blue]>  ... the latest issue of Antic magazine. In[/color]
[color=blue]>  it there is a small catalog of software that is available[/color]
[color=blue]>  from them that used to be from the now defunct APX. ...[/color]
[color=blue]>  The catalog is included in the magazine by subscription only and is not[/color]
[color=blue]>  in the ones available by single copy in the stores, ...[/color]
[color=blue]>  [/color]
[color=blue]>  Clancy Malloy[/color]
[color=blue]>  AT&T Bell Labs[/color]
[color=blue]>  Indian Hill[/color]
[color=blue]>  (..!ihu1n!freak)[/color]

I bought the February issue of Antic at a local computer store, not
with a subscription, and it did indeed include the APX catalog, so you
may want to save yourself some typing.

There is a terminal emulator for the ATARI that was written by John
Palevich (Chameleon author) and that apparently is in the public
domain.  It supports the KERMIT protocol, the Hayes Smartmodem, the
Atari 1030 modem, and has smooth horizontal scrolling (which is NOT
automatic).  It emulates the VT52.  I have successfully used this with
vi on UN*X and for transferring files (at 1200 baud) between the Atari
and KERMIT running on a UN*X system, and (at 9600 baud) between the
Atari and a DEC Rainbow running KERMIT.

This program is written in ACTION!, so you need the ACTION! cartridge.
It works beautifully, and is an outstanding example of an ACTION! program.
(Yes, it is in source code form.)

I got it from a DEC public access system in MA.  FYI, this is how to
contact the DEC system.  Note that it only supports KERMIT file
transfers, but the files you need are all ASCII.  The files all start
with "ATA", and they are in the KERMIT: directory, so you can see them
by typing "TYPE KERMIT:ATA*.*" (or something similar - on-line help is
available).

	To get onto DEC's market machine, phone (617) 467-7437 Once you
	get a connection, (1200 or 300 baud) type control-C twice.
	This enables auto-baud.  then:

		LCG LCG-KERMIT KERMIT

	This gets you on.  The system is primarily a KERMIT system,
	but it has MS-DOS and CP/M areas from which files can be
	downloaded using KERMIT.

BTW, also in the APX catalog is a disk full of ACTION! utilities, though
they don't describe what exactly is on it.

-- 
Dan O'Connell
ihnp4!{floyd,bonnie,clyde}!danoc
Re: Wanted: Chameleon 4.0 [message #80417 is a reply to message #80399] Mon, 03 June 2013 23:22 Go to previous message
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Date: Wed, 16-Jan-85 18:22:58 EST
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Posted: Wed Jan 16 18:22:58 1985
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[color=blue]>  I got it from a DEC public access system in MA.  FYI, this is how to[/color]
[color=blue]>  contact the DEC system.  Note that it only supports KERMIT file[/color]
[color=blue]>  transfers, but the files you need are all ASCII.  The files all start[/color]
[color=blue]>  with "ATA", and they are in the KERMIT: directory, so you can see them[/color]
[color=blue]>  by typing "TYPE KERMIT:ATA*.*" (or something similar - on-line help is[/color]
[color=blue]>  available).[/color]
[color=blue]>  [/color]
[color=blue]>  	To get onto DEC's market machine, phone (617) 467-7437 Once you[/color]
[color=blue]>  	get a connection, (1200 or 300 baud) type control-C twice.[/color]
[color=blue]>  	This enables auto-baud.  then:[/color]
[color=blue]>  [/color]
[color=blue]>  		LCG LCG-KERMIT KERMIT[/color]
[color=blue]>  [/color]
[color=blue]>  	This gets you on.  The system is primarily a KERMIT system,[/color]
[color=blue]>  	but it has MS-DOS and CP/M areas from which files can be[/color]
[color=blue]>  	downloaded using KERMIT.[/color]
[color=blue]>  [/color]
[color=blue]>  BTW, also in the APX catalog is a disk full of ACTION! utilities, though[/color]
[color=blue]>  they don't describe what exactly is on it.[/color]
[color=blue]>  [/color]
[color=blue]>  -- [/color]
[color=blue]>  Dan O'Connell[/color]
[color=blue]>  ihnp4!{floyd,bonnie,clyde}!danoc[/color]

Hi,

 You are reffering to Atari Kermit written in Action! Chameleon
supports Modem protocol as well and was written By John Palevich
in assembly language using a cross compiler on a PC.

 He can be contacted at 175 Calvert Drive #F211
			Cupertino, CA 95014

I believe he is at hplabs somewhere out there and probably is reachable
on the net. He is very helpful and has even sent me some of the sources
to his Kermit code.

Eric
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