| Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #419945] |
Wed, 19 April 2023 08:56  |
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Originally posted by: gareth evans
I've been given a notebook with Windows XP, no I/O ports
save for USB.
I have a HP Laserjet ll for which I still have two unused
toner cartridges.
How can I marry the two together?
Windows XP Laserjet driver?
I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
printer is not seen when plugging in.
TIA
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #419946 is a reply to message #419945] |
Wed, 19 April 2023 10:57  |
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Originally posted by: Marco Moock
Am 19.04.2023 um 13:56:32 Uhr schrieb gareth evans:
> Windows XP Laserjet driver?
XP supports LaserJet printers, but it seems HP removed them from their
webserver.
> I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
> printer is not seen when plugging in.
These converters (they are not simple adapters) sometimes don't work.
Connect the printer directly to a PC.
Maybe try out Linux, older HP models work fine with the PCL driver.
I run an OfficeJet 350 on Debian.
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #419947 is a reply to message #419946] |
Wed, 19 April 2023 12:33 |
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Originally posted by: gareth evans
On 19/04/2023 15:57, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 19.04.2023 um 13:56:32 Uhr schrieb gareth evans:
>
>> Windows XP Laserjet driver?
>
> XP supports LaserJet printers, but it seems HP removed them from their
> webserver.
>
>> I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
>> printer is not seen when plugging in.
>
> These converters (they are not simple adapters) sometimes don't work.
> Connect the printer directly to a PC.
>
> Maybe try out Linux, older HP models work fine with the PCL driver.
> I run an OfficeJet 350 on Debian.
>
As it happens I have an older XP laptop with a printer port, and the
Laserjet works fine on that one.
But I'd like to get the notebook printing as well.
I guess that I ought to be able to recover the Laserjet driver
from the leptop to transfer to the notebook, but is there
anyone out there who can hold my hand?
TIA
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #419948 is a reply to message #419947] |
Wed, 19 April 2023 13:10 |
scott
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gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> writes:
> On 19/04/2023 15:57, Marco Moock wrote:
>> Am 19.04.2023 um 13:56:32 Uhr schrieb gareth evans:
>>
>>> Windows XP Laserjet driver?
>>
>> XP supports LaserJet printers, but it seems HP removed them from their
>> webserver.
>>
>>> I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
>>> printer is not seen when plugging in.
>>
>> These converters (they are not simple adapters) sometimes don't work.
>> Connect the printer directly to a PC.
>>
>> Maybe try out Linux, older HP models work fine with the PCL driver.
>> I run an OfficeJet 350 on Debian.
>>
>
> As it happens I have an older XP laptop with a printer port, and the
> Laserjet works fine on that one.
>
> But I'd like to get the notebook printing as well.
>
> I guess that I ought to be able to recover the Laserjet driver
> from the leptop to transfer to the notebook, but is there
> anyone out there who can hold my hand?
https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#1-overvi ew
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #419949 is a reply to message #419948] |
Wed, 19 April 2023 13:54 |
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Originally posted by: gareth evans
On 19/04/2023 18:10, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> writes:
>> On 19/04/2023 15:57, Marco Moock wrote:
>>> Am 19.04.2023 um 13:56:32 Uhr schrieb gareth evans:
>>>
>>>> Windows XP Laserjet driver?
>>>
>>> XP supports LaserJet printers, but it seems HP removed them from their
>>> webserver.
>>>
>>>> I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
>>>> printer is not seen when plugging in.
>>>
>>> These converters (they are not simple adapters) sometimes don't work.
>>> Connect the printer directly to a PC.
>>>
>>> Maybe try out Linux, older HP models work fine with the PCL driver.
>>> I run an OfficeJet 350 on Debian.
>>>
>>
>> As it happens I have an older XP laptop with a printer port, and the
>> Laserjet works fine on that one.
>>
>> But I'd like to get the notebook printing as well.
>>
>> I guess that I ought to be able to recover the Laserjet driver
>> from the leptop to transfer to the notebook, but is there
>> anyone out there who can hold my hand?
>
> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#1-overvi ew
>
Not relevant to a discussion about Windows XP
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #419951 is a reply to message #419949] |
Wed, 19 April 2023 14:41 |
scott
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gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> writes:
> On 19/04/2023 18:10, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> writes:
>>> On 19/04/2023 15:57, Marco Moock wrote:
>>>> Am 19.04.2023 um 13:56:32 Uhr schrieb gareth evans:
>>>>
>>>> > Windows XP Laserjet driver?
>>>>
>>>> XP supports LaserJet printers, but it seems HP removed them from their
>>>> webserver.
>>>>
>>>> > I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
>>>> > printer is not seen when plugging in.
>>>>
>>>> These converters (they are not simple adapters) sometimes don't work.
>>>> Connect the printer directly to a PC.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe try out Linux, older HP models work fine with the PCL driver.
>>>> I run an OfficeJet 350 on Debian.
>>>>
>>>
>>> As it happens I have an older XP laptop with a printer port, and the
>>> Laserjet works fine on that one.
>>>
>>> But I'd like to get the notebook printing as well.
>>>
>>> I guess that I ought to be able to recover the Laserjet driver
>>> from the leptop to transfer to the notebook, but is there
>>> anyone out there who can hold my hand?
>>
>> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#1-overvi ew
>>
>
> Not relevant to a discussion about Windows XP
>
There is not much relevent about Windows XP these days.
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #419952 is a reply to message #419947] |
Wed, 19 April 2023 14:53 |
Peter Flass
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gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 19/04/2023 15:57, Marco Moock wrote:
>> Am 19.04.2023 um 13:56:32 Uhr schrieb gareth evans:
>>
>>> Windows XP Laserjet driver?
>>
>> XP supports LaserJet printers, but it seems HP removed them from their
>> webserver.
>>
>>> I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
>>> printer is not seen when plugging in.
>>
>> These converters (they are not simple adapters) sometimes don't work.
>> Connect the printer directly to a PC.
>>
>> Maybe try out Linux, older HP models work fine with the PCL driver.
>> I run an OfficeJet 350 on Debian.
>>
>
> As it happens I have an older XP laptop with a printer port, and the
> Laserjet works fine on that one.
>
> But I'd like to get the notebook printing as well.
Share the printer from the laptop?
>
> I guess that I ought to be able to recover the Laserjet driver
> from the leptop to transfer to the notebook, but is there
> anyone out there who can hold my hand?
>
> TIA
>
>
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #419953 is a reply to message #419951] |
Wed, 19 April 2023 14:56 |
Harry Vaderchi
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 18:41:46 GMT
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> writes:
>> On 19/04/2023 18:10, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> writes:
>>>> On 19/04/2023 15:57, Marco Moock wrote:
>>>> > Am 19.04.2023 um 13:56:32 Uhr schrieb gareth evans:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Windows XP Laserjet driver?
>>>> >
>>>> > XP supports LaserJet printers, but it seems HP removed them from their
>>>> > webserver.
>>>> >
>>>> >> I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
>>>> >> printer is not seen when plugging in.
>>>> >
>>>> > These converters (they are not simple adapters) sometimes don't work.
>>>> > Connect the printer directly to a PC.
>>>> >
>>>> > Maybe try out Linux, older HP models work fine with the PCL driver.
>>>> > I run an OfficeJet 350 on Debian.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> As it happens I have an older XP laptop with a printer port, and the
>>>> Laserjet works fine on that one.
>>>>
>>>> But I'd like to get the notebook printing as well.
>>>>
>>>> I guess that I ought to be able to recover the Laserjet driver
>>>> from the leptop to transfer to the notebook, but is there
>>>> anyone out there who can hold my hand?
>>>
>>> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#1-overvi ew
>>>
>>
>> Not relevant to a discussion about Windows XP
>>
>
> There is not much relevent about Windows XP these days.
Ah. I'm still using it. But I wouldn't expect to ask in a folklore
NG for support. I dunno how far back you'd need to go to get an Ubuntu
distro that'd outpace XP. (Try Debian, Gareth!)
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #419957 is a reply to message #419953] |
Wed, 19 April 2023 20:55 |
Peter Flass
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Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 18:41:46 GMT
> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>
>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> writes:
>>> On 19/04/2023 18:10, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> writes:
>>>> > On 19/04/2023 15:57, Marco Moock wrote:
>>>> >> Am 19.04.2023 um 13:56:32 Uhr schrieb gareth evans:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Windows XP Laserjet driver?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> XP supports LaserJet printers, but it seems HP removed them from their
>>>> >> webserver.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
>>>> >>> printer is not seen when plugging in.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> These converters (they are not simple adapters) sometimes don't work.
>>>> >> Connect the printer directly to a PC.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Maybe try out Linux, older HP models work fine with the PCL driver.
>>>> >> I run an OfficeJet 350 on Debian.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > As it happens I have an older XP laptop with a printer port, and the
>>>> > Laserjet works fine on that one.
>>>> >
>>>> > But I'd like to get the notebook printing as well.
>>>> >
>>>> > I guess that I ought to be able to recover the Laserjet driver
>>>> > from the leptop to transfer to the notebook, but is there
>>>> > anyone out there who can hold my hand?
>>>>
>>>> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#1-overvi ew
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not relevant to a discussion about Windows XP
>>>
>>
>> There is not much relevent about Windows XP these days.
>
> Ah. I'm still using it. But I wouldn't expect to ask in a folklore
> NG for support. I dunno how far back you'd need to go to get an Ubuntu
> distro that'd outpace XP. (Try Debian, Gareth!)
>
I still use it in a VM, when I need some particular software. It’s the only
windoze I use, or want.
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #419959 is a reply to message #419946] |
Thu, 20 April 2023 12:03 |
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Originally posted by: Kurt Weiske
To: Marco Moock
-=> Marco Moock wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
> I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
> printer is not seen when plugging in.
MM> These converters (they are not simple adapters) sometimes don't work.
MM> Connect the printer directly to a PC.
Sometimes it depends on the driver. Some printers used a bidirectional
driver for communication with a tray icon for printer/consumables
status.
I recall digging around for a "corporate" driver that just sent the
print job to the PC without trying to talk to it. It was meant for
printers behind a print server that couldn't do all of the
back-and-forth the "home use" driver was expecting.
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #420000 is a reply to message #419945] |
Thu, 27 April 2023 09:45 |
Anssi Saari
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gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> writes:
> I've been given a notebook with Windows XP, no I/O ports
> save for USB.
>
> I have a HP Laserjet ll for which I still have two unused
> toner cartridges.
>
> How can I marry the two together?
>
> Windows XP Laserjet driver?
>
> I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
> printer is not seen when plugging in.
As I recall, printer port printers did not become known to the system
when plugged in like USB devices do. Especially if they're 1980s
vintage, bidirectional printer ports came much later.
The USB - printer port adapter should show some info in device manager.
Drivers might actually be included in XP so you could just try to add a
driver or a printer? However it went, I think it's been a decade since
I've used XP.
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #420001 is a reply to message #420000] |
Thu, 27 April 2023 12:49 |
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Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> wrote:
> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> I've been given a notebook with Windows XP, no I/O ports
>> save for USB.
>>
>> I have a HP Laserjet ll for which I still have two unused
>> toner cartridges.
>>
>> How can I marry the two together?
>>
>> Windows XP Laserjet driver?
>>
>> I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
>> printer is not seen when plugging in.
>
> As I recall, printer port printers did not become known to the system
> when plugged in like USB devices do. Especially if they're 1980s
> vintage, bidirectional printer ports came much later.
>
> The USB - printer port adapter should show some info in device manager.
>
> Drivers might actually be included in XP so you could just try to add a
> driver or a printer? However it went, I think it's been a decade since
> I've used XP.
>
Isn’t the Laserjet II a PCL printer. Have you tried a vanilla PCL driver?
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #420002 is a reply to message #419945] |
Thu, 27 April 2023 16:34 |
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Originally posted by: Carlos E.R.
On 2023-04-19 14:56, gareth evans wrote:
> I've been given a notebook with Windows XP, no I/O ports
> save for USB.
>
> I have a HP Laserjet ll for which I still have two unused
> toner cartridges.
>
> How can I marry the two together?
>
> Windows XP Laserjet driver?
>
> I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
> printer is not seen when plugging in.
You should subscribe to alt.comp.os.windows-xp and ask there. They are a
support group specialized in Windows XP, and alt.folklore.computers is not.
I don't know how active it is, but I do know that there are many people
still using XP.
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Cheers, Carlos.
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #420004 is a reply to message #420002] |
Thu, 27 April 2023 19:21 |
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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2023-04-19 14:56, gareth evans wrote:
>> I've been given a notebook with Windows XP, no I/O ports
>> save for USB.
>>
>> I have a HP Laserjet ll for which I still have two unused
>> toner cartridges.
>>
>> How can I marry the two together?
>>
>> Windows XP Laserjet driver?
>>
>> I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
>> printer is not seen when plugging in.
>
> You should subscribe to alt.comp.os.windows-xp and ask there. They are a
> support group specialized in Windows XP, and alt.folklore.computers is not.
>
> I don't know how active it is, but I do know that there are many people
> still using XP.
>
I use it very occasionally. IMO it’s a big improvement over its successors.
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #420005 is a reply to message #420004] |
Thu, 27 April 2023 20:13 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2023-04-27, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-04-19 14:56, gareth evans wrote:
>>
>>> I've been given a notebook with Windows XP, no I/O ports
>>> save for USB.
>>>
>>> I have a HP Laserjet ll for which I still have two unused
>>> toner cartridges.
>>>
>>> How can I marry the two together?
>>>
>>> Windows XP Laserjet driver?
>>>
>>> I do have a USB to printer port adapter cable, but the
>>> printer is not seen when plugging in.
>>
>> You should subscribe to alt.comp.os.windows-xp and ask there. They are a
>> support group specialized in Windows XP, and alt.folklore.computers is not.
>>
>> I don't know how active it is, but I do know that there are many people
>> still using XP.
>
> I use it very occasionally.
Quoting a mouthwash commerical: "I hate it, but I use it - twice a day."
I write back-end stuff so I don't need the new gooey APIs that only the
newer versions provide; XP and good old Borland C++ Builder let me do
what I have to do without all the overhead.
> IMO it’s a big improvement over its successors.
I love that saying; this is one of the situations where I use it the most.
You might also try comp.os.ms-windows.programmer - it's a bit more
active and you might be able to get XP questions answered there.
stackoverflow.com might have some tidbits too.
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #420007 is a reply to message #420000] |
Fri, 28 April 2023 03:15 |
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 16:45:55 +0300
Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> wrote:
> As I recall, printer port printers did not become known to the system
> when plugged in like USB devices do. Especially if they're 1980s
> vintage, bidirectional printer ports came much later.
Laplink and PLIP both date from the early-mid 1980s using
bidirectional transfer over printer ports.
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #420008 is a reply to message #420004] |
Fri, 28 April 2023 03:38 |
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 16:21:56 -0700
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> I don't know how active it is, but I do know that there are many people
>> still using XP.
>
> I use it very occasionally. IMO it’s a big improvement over its
> successors.
Still a heap of dingo's kidneys though. The less said about its
successors the better.
I'd already selected the OS and window manager I still use today
well before XP came out[1993]. FreeBSD and flwm - unlimited on demand
desktops, separate horizontal and vertical maximise, no clutter, simple
menu system, my troff documents from the 1980s still work fine as do my sc
spreadsheets, standard commands have grown options for new features,
reliable easy upgrades ... I like consistent interfaces.
[1993] It's coming up on thirty years since I first installed FreeBSD, flwm
came later in 1999. It has adapted to the dramatic increase in hardware
capabilities considerably more gracefully than Windows or any Linux based
OS I know of.
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #420010 is a reply to message #419945] |
Fri, 28 April 2023 07:45 |
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Originally posted by: Nicholas D. Richards
In article <875y9g8r1n.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>, Andreas Kohlbach
<ank@spamfence.net> on Fri, 28 Apr 2023 at 02:22:12 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 16:45:55 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:
>>
>> As I recall, printer port printers did not become known to the system
>> when plugged in like USB devices do. Especially if they're 1980s
>> vintage, bidirectional printer ports came much later.
>
> Parallel port rules! ;-)
>
> Around 2002 I found a Star NLC-10 matrix printer on a flea
> market. Connected it via the parallel port my computer still had (was
> from 1999).
>
> Today I would have no idea how to connect such an old (was old in 2002
> already) printer to a modern system.
Quick search of Lambdatek's site came up with a parallel port extension
card, for FWIW:
https://www.lambda-tek.com/StarTech-com-PEX1S1P950~sh/B45395 809
No guarantee that it would work. Other sources and manufacturers may be
available.
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #420011 is a reply to message #420010] |
Fri, 28 April 2023 08:08 |
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Originally posted by: Carlos E.R.
On 2023-04-28 13:45, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> In article <875y9g8r1n.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>, Andreas Kohlbach
> <ank@spamfence.net> on Fri, 28 Apr 2023 at 02:22:12 awoke Nicholas from
> his slumbers and wrote
>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 16:45:55 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:
>>>
>>> As I recall, printer port printers did not become known to the system
>>> when plugged in like USB devices do. Especially if they're 1980s
>>> vintage, bidirectional printer ports came much later.
>>
>> Parallel port rules! ;-)
>>
>> Around 2002 I found a Star NLC-10 matrix printer on a flea
>> market. Connected it via the parallel port my computer still had (was
>> from 1999).
>>
>> Today I would have no idea how to connect such an old (was old in 2002
>> already) printer to a modern system.
>
> Quick search of Lambdatek's site came up with a parallel port extension
> card, for FWIW:
>
> https://www.lambda-tek.com/StarTech-com-PEX1S1P950~sh/B45395 809
>
> No guarantee that it would work. Other sources and manufacturers may be
> available.
My board (quite recent) has a parallel port. Integrated. I was surprised
when I saw it.
I do not need it, what I sought for was a serial port.
07: None 00.0: 0701 Parallel controller (SPP)
[Created at misc.261]
Unique ID: YMnp.ecK7NLYWZ5D
Hardware Class: unknown
Model: "Parallel controller"
Device File: /dev/lp0
I/O Ports: 0x378-0x37a (rw)
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #420012 is a reply to message #419945] |
Fri, 28 April 2023 09:03 |
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Originally posted by: Bob Eager
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 02:22:12 -0400, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 16:45:55 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:
>>
>> As I recall, printer port printers did not become known to the system
>> when plugged in like USB devices do. Especially if they're 1980s
>> vintage, bidirectional printer ports came much later.
>
> Parallel port rules! ;-)
>
> Around 2002 I found a Star NLC-10 matrix printer on a flea market.
> Connected it via the parallel port my computer still had (was from
> 1999).
>
> Today I would have no idea how to connect such an old (was old in 2002
> already) printer to a modern system.
There are parallel port converters. To USB and to Ethernet.
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #420014 is a reply to message #420011] |
Fri, 28 April 2023 11:57 |
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 14:08:46 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2023-04-28 13:45, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>> In article <875y9g8r1n.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>, Andreas Kohlbach
>> <ank@spamfence.net> on Fri, 28 Apr 2023 at 02:22:12 awoke Nicholas from
>> his slumbers and wrote
>>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 16:45:55 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As I recall, printer port printers did not become known to the system
>>>> when plugged in like USB devices do. Especially if they're 1980s
>>>> vintage, bidirectional printer ports came much later.
>>>
>>> Parallel port rules! ;-)
>>>
>>> Around 2002 I found a Star NLC-10 matrix printer on a flea
>>> market. Connected it via the parallel port my computer still had (was
>>> from 1999).
>>>
>>> Today I would have no idea how to connect such an old (was old in 2002
>>> already) printer to a modern system.
>>
>> Quick search of Lambdatek's site came up with a parallel port extension
>> card, for FWIW:
>>
>> https://www.lambda-tek.com/StarTech-com-PEX1S1P950~sh/B45395 809
>>
>> No guarantee that it would work. Other sources and manufacturers may be
>> available.
>
>
> My board (quite recent) has a parallel port. Integrated. I was surprised
> when I saw it.
>
> I do not need it, what I sought for was a serial port.
>
> 07: None 00.0: 0701 Parallel controller (SPP)
> [Created at misc.261]
> Unique ID: YMnp.ecK7NLYWZ5D
> Hardware Class: unknown
> Model: "Parallel controller"
> Device File: /dev/lp0
> I/O Ports: 0x378-0x37a (rw)
> Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
I was able to find a USB to serial port cable about 10 years ago. No
idea if they are still avalable.
--
Jim
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #420017 is a reply to message #420014] |
Fri, 28 April 2023 12:33 |
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Originally posted by: Carlos E.R.
On 2023-04-28 17:57, D.J. wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 14:08:46 +0200, "Carlos E.R." <> wrote:
>> On 2023-04-28 13:45, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>>> In article <875y9g8r1n.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>, Andreas Kohlbach
>>> <ank@spamfence.net> on Fri, 28 Apr 2023 at 02:22:12 awoke Nicholas from
>>> his slumbers and wrote
>>>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 16:45:55 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > As I recall, printer port printers did not become known to the system
>>>> > when plugged in like USB devices do. Especially if they're 1980s
>>>> > vintage, bidirectional printer ports came much later.
>>>>
>>>> Parallel port rules! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Around 2002 I found a Star NLC-10 matrix printer on a flea
>>>> market. Connected it via the parallel port my computer still had (was
>>>> from 1999).
>>>>
>>>> Today I would have no idea how to connect such an old (was old in 2002
>>>> already) printer to a modern system.
>>>
>>> Quick search of Lambdatek's site came up with a parallel port extension
>>> card, for FWIW:
>>>
>>> https://www.lambda-tek.com/StarTech-com-PEX1S1P950~sh/B45395 809
>>>
>>> No guarantee that it would work. Other sources and manufacturers may be
>>> available.
>>
>>
>> My board (quite recent) has a parallel port. Integrated. I was surprised
>> when I saw it.
>>
>> I do not need it, what I sought for was a serial port.
>>
>> 07: None 00.0: 0701 Parallel controller (SPP)
>> [Created at misc.261]
>> Unique ID: YMnp.ecK7NLYWZ5D
>> Hardware Class: unknown
>> Model: "Parallel controller"
>> Device File: /dev/lp0
>> I/O Ports: 0x378-0x37a (rw)
>> Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
>
> I was able to find a USB to serial port cable about 10 years ago. No
> idea if they are still avalable.
Certainly they are, used quite a lot. And to parallel port, not so much.
What is rare is finding them in the board.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
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| Re: Windows XP and HP Laserjet 11 [message #420019 is a reply to message #420014] |
Sat, 29 April 2023 01:28 |
Mike Spencer
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Registered: January 2012
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D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
> I was able to find a USB to serial port cable about 10 years ago. No
> idea if they are still avalable.
I got a USB->serial cable a few years ago on a swap for an Osborne I
EXMON adapter with a guy in Vancouver. Worked fine to connect a dialup
modem after resolving a glitch in the dialer script -- one character
was treated differently than by a real serial connection.
I also went out and found a USB->Centronics cable, anticipating that
I'd upgrade to a router with no parallel printer port and my aged
Brother B&W laser printer was going strong. As it happens, the
printer died before the upgrade happened so now I have a new printer
on ethernet from the new router and a new(er) computer and never
used the adapter cable. Maybe sometime I'll want to ressurect another
old printer. Never throw anything away.
--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
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