| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417448 is a reply to message #417429] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 09:57   |
D.J.
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2022 00:14:15 GMT, Charlie Gibbs
<cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2022-11-07, D.J <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 15:23:29 -0500, "David W. Hodgins"
>> <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 14:53:50 -0500, The Natural Philosopher
>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/11/2022 19:15, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 12:53:23 -0500, Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 2022-11-02 1:21 p.m., Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Leave "they" alone. It's plural.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I take it thou desires to go back to thou and thine
>>>> >> since "you" and "your" are also plural. :)
>
> Let's get the third person settled before worrying about
> second person.
>
>>>> > Whoever posted the part labeled as being from Charlie Gibbs,
>>>> > they (singular) need a better education on the English language.
>
> Shouldn't that be "they needs a better education"?
>
>>>> Well no, The American language perhaps, but in English, They are plural.
>>>> They is not singular.
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed the plural form of verbs has all but disappeared.
>>>
>>> I'm Canadian. I was taught that "they" can be singular when referring
>>> to an unidentified individual.
>
> I too am Canadian. And we're not arguing about an unidentified
> individual - in which case I'm as likely to use "they" as anyone
> else here - but one specific person.
>
>> Some Texans were apparently taught differently, but I was taught that
>> "You'all" can be used either signular or plural, depending on context.
>
> A Texan once told me that "y'all" is singular, and that the plural is
> "all y'all".
They must be from southeast Texas.
> One day I was on a support call to a customer in Dallas. She said,
> "We're getting a funny message and I was wondering if it was from
> y'all's system." I'd never heard it used in the possessive before.
Same here.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417449 is a reply to message #417445] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 09:59 |
D.J.
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 10:43:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 07/11/2022 22:02, D.J. wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 15:23:29 -0500, "David W. Hodgins"
>> <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 14:53:50 -0500, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/11/2022 19:15, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>>>> > On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 12:53:23 -0500, Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 2022-11-02 1:21 p.m., Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> >>> Leave "they" alone. It's plural.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I take it thou desires to go back to thou and thine
>>>> >> since "you" and "your" are also plural. :)
>>>> >
>>>> > Whoever posted the part labeled as being from Charlie Gibbs, they
>>>> > (singular)
>>>> > need a better education on the English language.
>>>> >
>>>> Well no, The American language perhaps, but in English, They are plural.
>>>> They is not singular.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed the plural form of verbs has all but disappeared.
>>>
>>> I'm Canadian. I was taught that "they" can be singular when referring to
>>> an unidentified individual.
>>
>> Some Texans were apparently taught differently, but I was taught that
>> "You'all" can be used either signular or plural, depending on context.
>> --
>> Jim
>
> Texan aint English.
I don;t know if it is still sold, but back around 1978 you could stop
at a tourist trap, uhm, gas station selling postcards and knick nacks
upon crossing the state line into Texas. I found a Texas to English
dictionary for $1.25. One phrase i had never encountered before
'Djeet' is Texan for Did you eat yet ?
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417450 is a reply to message #417426] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 10:04 |
scott
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pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> writes:
> On 2022-11-07, D.J <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 21:45:02 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org>
>>
>> Lets see, many of commentators on CNN are apologists for trumpie. And
I suspect you meant to write FOX, not CNN.
>> some are not, hard to determine sometimes. I watch MSNBC, BBC America,
>> local tv channels but they are misquoting politicians that are not far
>> right.
>>
>> Mostly I watch Science channel for: 'Strange evidence', 'Mysteries of
>> the Abandoned' and 'How the Universe vWorks'.
>>
>> Some on Facebook are okay, and some are raving loonies who claim there
>> are things in various US documents I know arent there... I've read
>> them.
>> --
>> Jim
>
> Thank-you. I appreciate the feedback.
>
> One of the websites I like to check a couple times a week is "scitechdaily
> DOT com".
You might like these:
https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/
https://www.science.org/blogs/pipeline
For news, Deutsche Welle, BBC, NPR, NY Times.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417451 is a reply to message #417351] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 10:21 |
Charles Richmond
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On 11/6/2022 8:18 AM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 12:33:01 +0000
> Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
>
>> Woke is like religion, the basic principles are sensible, e.g. thou
>> shall not covert thy neighbour's ass.., we shouldn't be nasty to gay
>> people..., but in both there is a dogmatic intolerance of heresy.
>
> I was chatting to a friend about times past and talked about the
> nasty little battery radios that were the curse of some beaches calling
> them by the name we used then trannies - short for transistor radios.
> Someone nearby heard nothing of the conversation except the word trannies
> and promptly started lecturing me on how this was an offensive term to
> transgender people - it took a while to shut them up for long enough to
> explain that I wasn't talking about people of any kind.
>
> Some people seem to look for opportunities to take offense.
>
It's called "wearing your heart on your sleeve."
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417452 is a reply to message #417445] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 10:43 |
Charles Richmond
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On 11/8/2022 4:43 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 07/11/2022 22:02, D.J. wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 15:23:29 -0500, "David W. Hodgins"
>> <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 14:53:50 -0500, The Natural Philosopher
>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/11/2022 19:15, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>>>> > On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 12:53:23 -0500, Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 2022-11-02 1:21 p.m., Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> >>> Leave "they" alone. It's plural.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I take it thou desires to go back to thou and thine
>>>> >> since "you" and "your" are also plural. :)
>>>> >
>>>> > Whoever posted the part labeled as being from Charlie Gibbs, they
>>>> > (singular)
>>>> > need a better education on the English language.
>>>> >
>>>> Well no, The American language perhaps, but in English, They are
>>>> plural.
>>>> They is not singular.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed the plural form of verbs has all but disappeared.
>>>
>>> I'm Canadian. I was taught that "they" can be singular when referring to
>>> an unidentified individual.
>>
>> Some Texans were apparently taught differently, but I was taught that
>> "You'all" can be used either signular or plural, depending on context.
>> --
>> Jim
>
> Texan aint English.
>
In Texas, "chair" indicates where you are... as in "I'm right chair!"
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417453 is a reply to message #417449] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 10:46 |
Charles Richmond
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On 11/8/2022 8:59 AM, D.J. wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 10:43:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 07/11/2022 22:02, D.J. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 15:23:29 -0500, "David W. Hodgins"
>>> <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 14:53:50 -0500, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 07/11/2022 19:15, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>>>> >> On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 12:53:23 -0500, Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On 2022-11-02 1:21 p.m., Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> >>>> Leave "they" alone. It's plural.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I take it thou desires to go back to thou and thine
>>>> >>> since "you" and "your" are also plural. :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Whoever posted the part labeled as being from Charlie Gibbs, they
>>>> >> (singular)
>>>> >> need a better education on the English language.
>>>> >>
>>>> > Well no, The American language perhaps, but in English, They are plural.
>>>> > They is not singular.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I have noticed the plural form of verbs has all but disappeared.
>>>>
>>>> I'm Canadian. I was taught that "they" can be singular when referring to
>>>> an unidentified individual.
>>>
>>> Some Texans were apparently taught differently, but I was taught that
>>> "You'all" can be used either signular or plural, depending on context.
>>> --
>>> Jim
>>
>> Texan aint English.
>
> I don;t know if it is still sold, but back around 1978 you could stop
> at a tourist trap, uhm, gas station selling postcards and knick nacks
> upon crossing the state line into Texas. I found a Texas to English
> dictionary for $1.25. One phrase i had never encountered before
> 'Djeet' is Texan for Did you eat yet ?
>
"How y'all doin'? How's ya' mama an' 'nem?"
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417454 is a reply to message #417363] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 10:57 |
Charles Richmond
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On 11/6/2022 5:15 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 05/11/2022 20:41, D.J. wrote:
>> On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 15:50:28 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 05/11/2022 14:01, D.J. wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 04 Nov 2022 17:35:21 GMT, Charlie Gibbs
>>>> <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>> > On 2022-11-04, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Leave "they" alone. It's plural.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It’s grammatically plural, but that doesn’t stop it taking singular
>>>> >> referent (just like ‘you’).
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> The use of they as a singular for unknown gender is old and very
>>>> >>> common.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Indeed.
>>>> >
>>>> > I've long seen it used when making a general reference which covers
>>>> > any number of people, and I don't have much of a problem with that.
>>>> > What's becoming more prevalent, though, is its use when referring
>>>> > to a single specific person - and that doesn't sit well with me.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mind you, anything that smells of "wokeness" sets off my alarm bells.
>>>>
>>>> Thats terrible that you don't know woke means 'don't be stupid'.
>>> And is only used by those who are....
>>
>> I didn't understand where you were coming from. But I get it now. Fox
>> Entertaiment is your 'news' of choice. Because that is one of the
>> originators of such nonsense.
>> --
>> Jim
>
> Dearly beloved Jim., we don't get Fox news in the UK
>
I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
come through those papers as well.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417455 is a reply to message #417450] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 11:18 |
Harry Vaderchi
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2022 15:04:57 GMT
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
> pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> writes:
>> On 2022-11-07, D.J <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 21:45:02 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org>
>
>>>
>>> Lets see, many of commentators on CNN are apologists for trumpie. And
>
> I suspect you meant to write FOX, not CNN.
>
>>> some are not, hard to determine sometimes. I watch MSNBC, BBC America,
>>> local tv channels but they are misquoting politicians that are not far
>>> right.
>>>
>>> Mostly I watch Science channel for: 'Strange evidence', 'Mysteries of
>>> the Abandoned' and 'How the Universe vWorks'.
>>>
>>> Some on Facebook are okay, and some are raving loonies who claim there
>>> are things in various US documents I know arent there... I've read
>>> them.
>>> --
>>> Jim
>>
>> Thank-you. I appreciate the feedback.
>>
>> One of the websites I like to check a couple times a week is "scitechdaily
>> DOT com".
>
> You might like these:
>
> https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/
> https://www.science.org/blogs/pipeline
>
> For news, Deutsche Welle, BBC, NPR, NY Times.
Thanks.
Also check Al Jazeera for a different angle - clearly they're heavily
influenced by their backers to promote the Qatar World Cup ATM, but it's
generally useful as a different world perspective.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417457 is a reply to message #417449] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 11:47 |
Mike Spencer
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D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
> I don;t know if it is still sold, but back around 1978 you could stop
> at a tourist trap, uhm, gas station selling postcards and knick nacks
> upon crossing the state line into Texas. I found a Texas to English
> dictionary for $1.25. One phrase i had never encountered before
> 'Djeet' is Texan for Did you eat yet ?
Whereas in New Hampshire, exactly the same question is posed by "Yet yet?"
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417459 is a reply to message #417450] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 12:16 |
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Originally posted by: pH
On 2022-11-08, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
> pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> writes:
>> On 2022-11-07, D.J <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 21:45:02 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org>
>
>>>
>>> Lets see, many of commentators on CNN are apologists for trumpie. And
>
> I suspect you meant to write FOX, not CNN.
>
>>> some are not, hard to determine sometimes. I watch MSNBC, BBC America,
>>> local tv channels but they are misquoting politicians that are not far
>>> right.
>>>
>>> Mostly I watch Science channel for: 'Strange evidence', 'Mysteries of
>>> the Abandoned' and 'How the Universe vWorks'.
>>>
>>> Some on Facebook are okay, and some are raving loonies who claim there
>>> are things in various US documents I know arent there... I've read
>>> them.
>>> --
>>> Jim
>>
>> Thank-you. I appreciate the feedback.
>>
>> One of the websites I like to check a couple times a week is "scitechdaily
>> DOT com".
>
> You might like these:
>
> https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/
> https://www.science.org/blogs/pipeline
>
> For news, Deutsche Welle, BBC, NPR, NY Times.
Thanks for these tips!
I'll disappear and get on topic, now, but I've jotted these dowwn.
pH
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417460 is a reply to message #417445] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 12:36 |
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Originally posted by: greymaus
On 2022-11-08, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 07/11/2022 22:02, D.J. wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 15:23:29 -0500, "David W. Hodgins"
>> <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 14:53:50 -0500, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/11/2022 19:15, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>
> Texan aint English.
It does not have to be, so long as it suits the Texans. I think we may
be on the way as happened as Latin split into the romance languages. No
point in raising a ruckus about it. ;)
>
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417461 is a reply to message #417456] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 12:38 |
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Originally posted by: greymaus
On 2022-11-08, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:43:40 -0600
> Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>
>> In Texas, "chair" indicates where you are... as in "I'm right chair!"
>
> Time to bring up "I'm going out to smoke a fag" which apparently
> doesn't mean in Texas what it means in London.
>
Or in Rugby school.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417462 is a reply to message #417455] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 13:16 |
scott
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"Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2022 15:04:57 GMT
> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>
>> pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> writes:
>>> On 2022-11-07, D.J <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 21:45:02 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Lets see, many of commentators on CNN are apologists for trumpie. And
>>
>> I suspect you meant to write FOX, not CNN.
>>
>>>> some are not, hard to determine sometimes. I watch MSNBC, BBC America,
>>>> local tv channels but they are misquoting politicians that are not far
>>>> right.
>>>>
>>>> Mostly I watch Science channel for: 'Strange evidence', 'Mysteries of
>>>> the Abandoned' and 'How the Universe vWorks'.
>>>>
>>>> Some on Facebook are okay, and some are raving loonies who claim there
>>>> are things in various US documents I know arent there... I've read
>>>> them.
>>>> --
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Thank-you. I appreciate the feedback.
>>>
>>> One of the websites I like to check a couple times a week is "scitechdaily
>>> DOT com".
>>
>> You might like these:
>>
>> https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/
>> https://www.science.org/blogs/pipeline
>>
>> For news, Deutsche Welle, BBC, NPR, NY Times.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Also check Al Jazeera for a different angle - clearly they're heavily
> influenced by their backers to promote the Qatar World Cup ATM, but it's
> generally useful as a different world perspective.
And topical for the day:
https://www.understandingwar.org/
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417464 is a reply to message #417445] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 14:24 |
Peter Flass
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The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 07/11/2022 22:02, D.J. wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 15:23:29 -0500, "David W. Hodgins"
>> <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 14:53:50 -0500, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/11/2022 19:15, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>>>> > On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 12:53:23 -0500, Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 2022-11-02 1:21 p.m., Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> >>> Leave "they" alone. It's plural.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I take it thou desires to go back to thou and thine
>>>> >> since "you" and "your" are also plural. :)
>>>> >
>>>> > Whoever posted the part labeled as being from Charlie Gibbs, they
>>>> > (singular)
>>>> > need a better education on the English language.
>>>> >
>>>> Well no, The American language perhaps, but in English, They are plural.
>>>> They is not singular.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed the plural form of verbs has all but disappeared.
>>>
>>> I'm Canadian. I was taught that "they" can be singular when referring to
>>> an unidentified individual.
>>
>> Some Texans were apparently taught differently, but I was taught that
>> "You'all" can be used either signular or plural, depending on context.
>> --
>> Jim
>
> Texan aint English.
>
Plural would be “all y’all.”
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417465 is a reply to message #417455] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 14:24 |
Peter Flass
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Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2022 15:04:57 GMT
> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>
>> pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> writes:
>>> On 2022-11-07, D.J <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 21:45:02 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Lets see, many of commentators on CNN are apologists for trumpie. And
>>
>> I suspect you meant to write FOX, not CNN.
>>
>>>> some are not, hard to determine sometimes. I watch MSNBC, BBC America,
>>>> local tv channels but they are misquoting politicians that are not far
>>>> right.
>>>>
>>>> Mostly I watch Science channel for: 'Strange evidence', 'Mysteries of
>>>> the Abandoned' and 'How the Universe vWorks'.
>>>>
>>>> Some on Facebook are okay, and some are raving loonies who claim there
>>>> are things in various US documents I know arent there... I've read
>>>> them.
>>>> --
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Thank-you. I appreciate the feedback.
>>>
>>> One of the websites I like to check a couple times a week is "scitechdaily
>>> DOT com".
>>
>> You might like these:
>>
>> https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/
>> https://www.science.org/blogs/pipeline
>>
>> For news, Deutsche Welle, BBC, NPR, NY Times.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Also check Al Jazeera for a different angle - clearly they're heavily
> influenced by their backers to promote the Qatar World Cup ATM, but it's
> generally useful as a different world perspective.
>
I was fairly surprised that AJ isn’t too bad.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417468 is a reply to message #417454] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 14:59 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2022-11-08, Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
> On 11/6/2022 5:15 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Dearly beloved Jim., we don't get Fox news in the UK
>
> I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
> the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
> come through those papers as well.
Give you Rule Britannia, gassy beer, and page three [1]
-- Dire Straits: Industrial Disease
[1] British tabloids typically ran a picture of a scantily-clad woman
on page 3.
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Tue, 08 November 2022 14:59 |
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On 2022-11-08, D.J <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> wrote:
> Here is my problem, or rather their problem, with Libertarianism.
>
> Some years about, about 2000, I asked online, in a newsgroup, what
> they wanted to do, their platform.
>
> So the guy said people should only have to pay for the sidewalks,
> streets, street lights, etc. they use. That doesn't sund bad, until
> you realize that everyone would have to be tracked in their shoes,
> cars, etc. for which streets and sidewalks they use. Cost likely in
> the billions with many computers tracking them. Probably a big buget
> hole of deepness.
Today it'd be no problem. Just contract it out to Google.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417470 is a reply to message #417451] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 14:59 |
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On 2022-11-08, Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
> On 11/6/2022 8:18 AM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>
>> Some people seem to look for opportunities to take offense.
>
> It's called "wearing your heart on your sleeve."
My favourite example is Vancouver city councillor (and Pentecostal
minister) Bernice Gerard. The beach around Point Grey, at the base
of the cliffs below the University of British Columbia, is known as
"Wreck Beach", and has been a favourite nude sunbathing spot for,
well, forever. It's not easy to get to - you have to follow a steep,
narrow, twisting path down a ravine, with a vertical drop of several
hundred feet, to reach it. It's not the kind of place you find yourself
in by accident. Yet in 1977 Ms. Gerard made the arduous journey so that
she could enjoy the privilege of being offended by nudity and protest
against it. You have to admire her dedication if nothing else.
Some people just aren't happy unless they're unhappy.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417471 is a reply to message #417449] |
Tue, 08 November 2022 14:59 |
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On 2022-11-08, D.J <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> wrote:
> I don;t know if it is still sold, but back around 1978 you could stop
> at a tourist trap, uhm, gas station selling postcards and knick nacks
> upon crossing the state line into Texas. I found a Texas to English
> dictionary for $1.25. One phrase i had never encountered before
> 'Djeet' is Texan for Did you eat yet ?
That reminds me of an interchange between my wife and a couple of friends:
Donna: Y'eet yet? ([Did] you eat yet?)
Chas: No, squeet. (No, let's go eat.)
Boyd: Twirly tweet. ([It's] too early to eat.)
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Originally posted by: Lew Pitcher
On Tue, 08 Nov 2022 22:00:25 +0000, gareth evans wrote:
> On 08/11/2022 19:59, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>> [1] British tabloids typically ran a picture of a scantily-clad woman
>> on page 3.
>
> Not everyone was a fan of Sam Fox, for she did have her knockers.
Pat-a-poom! <rimshot/>
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Wed, 09 November 2022 03:32 |
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On 08/11/2022 19:59, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2022-11-08, Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
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>> On 11/6/2022 5:15 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> Dearly beloved Jim., we don't get Fox news in the UK
>>
>> I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
>> the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
>> come through those papers as well.
>
> Give you Rule Britannia, gassy beer, and page three [1]
> -- Dire Straits: Industrial Disease
>
> [1] British tabloids typically ran a picture of a scantily-clad woman
> on page 3.
>
It was usually a teenager with her tits out.
Many went on to become 'celebrities'
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417496 is a reply to message #417454] |
Wed, 09 November 2022 13:01 |
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:57:34 -0600, Charles Richmond
<codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
> On 11/6/2022 5:15 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 05/11/2022 20:41, D.J. wrote:
>>> On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 15:50:28 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 05/11/2022 14:01, D.J. wrote:
>>>> > On Fri, 04 Nov 2022 17:35:21 GMT, Charlie Gibbs
>>>> > <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >> On 2022-11-04, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Leave "they" alone. It's plural.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Its grammatically plural, but that doesnt stop it taking singular
>>>> >>> referent (just like you).
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> The use of they as a singular for unknown gender is old and very
>>>> >>>> common.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Indeed.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I've long seen it used when making a general reference which covers
>>>> >> any number of people, and I don't have much of a problem with that.
>>>> >> What's becoming more prevalent, though, is its use when referring
>>>> >> to a single specific person - and that doesn't sit well with me.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Mind you, anything that smells of "wokeness" sets off my alarm bells.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thats terrible that you don't know woke means 'don't be stupid'.
>>>> And is only used by those who are....
>>>
>>> I didn't understand where you were coming from. But I get it now. Fox
>>> Entertaiment is your 'news' of choice. Because that is one of the
>>> originators of such nonsense.
>>> --
>>> Jim
>>
>> Dearly beloved Jim., we don't get Fox news in the UK
>>
>
> I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
> the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
> come through those papers as well.
>
> --
>
> Charles Richmond
Yup, and the owner of Fox lives in England.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417497 is a reply to message #417450] |
Wed, 09 November 2022 13:03 |
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2022 15:04:57 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
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> pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> writes:
>> On 2022-11-07, D.J <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 21:45:02 -0000 (UTC), pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org>
>
>>>
>>> Lets see, many of commentators on CNN are apologists for trumpie. And
>
> I suspect you meant to write FOX, not CNN.
Well, no. Two, one in the morning, and one in the afternoon, have been
accused by other reporters as apologists for him.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417498 is a reply to message #417471] |
Wed, 09 November 2022 13:06 |
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2022 19:59:18 GMT, Charlie Gibbs
<cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2022-11-08, D.J <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> wrote:
>
>> I don;t know if it is still sold, but back around 1978 you could stop
>> at a tourist trap, uhm, gas station selling postcards and knick nacks
>> upon crossing the state line into Texas. I found a Texas to English
>> dictionary for $1.25. One phrase i had never encountered before
>> 'Djeet' is Texan for Did you eat yet ?
>
> That reminds me of an interchange between my wife and a couple of friends:
>
> Donna: Y'eet yet? ([Did] you eat yet?)
> Chas: No, squeet. (No, let's go eat.)
> Boyd: Twirly tweet. ([It's] too early to eat.)
Well, there ya go.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417499 is a reply to message #417496] |
Wed, 09 November 2022 13:07 |
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D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:57:34 -0600, Charles Richmond
> <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
>> the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
>> come through those papers as well.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Charles Richmond
>
> Yup, and the owner of Fox lives in England.
Does he? He was born in Australia and is a naturalized US
citizen.
(Note that I'm not defending him, his family, or Faux in any way).
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417501 is a reply to message #417487] |
Wed, 09 November 2022 13:36 |
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On 2022-11-09, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
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>> Some people just aren't happy unless they're unhappy.
>
> So that’s why you get upset at “they” with singular referent...?
No, I'm just irritated by woke-speak. I'm not against a language
evolving - but I'm careful to point out the difference between
evolution and decay. What we really need is a new pronoun to
meet a newly-recognized requirement. This will extend English,
rather than increasing ambiguity (as if it isn't bad enough already).
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417503 is a reply to message #417499] |
Wed, 09 November 2022 14:04 |
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 18:07:30 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
>> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:57:34 -0600, Charles Richmond
>> <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
>>> the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
>>> come through those papers as well.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Charles Richmond
>>
>> Yup, and the owner of Fox lives in England.
>
> Does he? He was born in Australia and is a naturalized US
> citizen.
>
> (Note that I'm not defending him, his family, or Faux in any way).
Last time I saw him on telly, it was on the BBC America and they
mentioned him and his kids were arguing on who would take over after
he died. And it looked to me like they were in London, England.
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Wed, 09 November 2022 14:26 |
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D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
> On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 18:07:30 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
> wrote:
>> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
>>> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:57:34 -0600, Charles Richmond
>>> <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
>>>> the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
>>>> come through those papers as well.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Charles Richmond
>>>
>>> Yup, and the owner of Fox lives in England.
>>
>> Does he? He was born in Australia and is a naturalized US
>> citizen.
>>
>> (Note that I'm not defending him, his family, or Faux in any way).
>
> Last time I saw him on telly, it was on the BBC America and they
> mentioned him and his kids were arguing on who would take over after
> he died. And it looked to me like they were in London, England.
On a visit, no doubt. Rupert lives in oz.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417507 is a reply to message #417503] |
Wed, 09 November 2022 14:53 |
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Originally posted by: greymaus
On 2022-11-09, D.J <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 18:07:30 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
> wrote:
>> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
>>> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:57:34 -0600, Charles Richmond
>>> <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
>>>> the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
>>>> come through those papers as well.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Charles Richmond
>>>
>>> Yup, and the owner of Fox lives in England.
>>
>> Does he? He was born in Australia and is a naturalized US
>> citizen.
>>
>> (Note that I'm not defending him, his family, or Faux in any way).
>
> Last time I saw him on telly, it was on the BBC America and they
> mentioned him and his kids were arguing on who would take over after
> he died. And it looked to me like they were in London, England.
> --
> Jim
His romantic exploits make me laugh, I would contend, however, that
besides his biases, he is a news man, and prints things others ignore.
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Fe, Fi, Fo, Fum, I smell the stench of an Influencer.
Where is our money gone, Dude?
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417508 is a reply to message #417505] |
Wed, 09 November 2022 14:54 |
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Originally posted by: greymaus
On 2022-11-09, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
>> On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 18:07:30 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
>> wrote:
>>> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
>>>> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:57:34 -0600, Charles Richmond
>>>> <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
>>>> >the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
>>>> >come through those papers as well.
>>>> >
>>>> >--
>>>> >
>>>> >Charles Richmond
>>>>
>>>> Yup, and the owner of Fox lives in England.
>>>
>>> Does he? He was born in Australia and is a naturalized US
>>> citizen.
>>>
>>> (Note that I'm not defending him, his family, or Faux in any way).
>>
>> Last time I saw him on telly, it was on the BBC America and they
>> mentioned him and his kids were arguing on who would take over after
>> he died. And it looked to me like they were in London, England.
>
> On a visit, no doubt. Rupert lives in oz.
Lupert or Rupert?.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417524 is a reply to message #417496] |
Thu, 10 November 2022 05:19 |
The Natural Philosoph
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On 09/11/2022 18:01, D.J. wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:57:34 -0600, Charles Richmond
> <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>> On 11/6/2022 5:15 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 05/11/2022 20:41, D.J. wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 15:50:28 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> > On 05/11/2022 14:01, D.J. wrote:
>>>> >> On Fri, 04 Nov 2022 17:35:21 GMT, Charlie Gibbs
>>>> >> <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >>> On 2022-11-04, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Leave "they" alone. It's plural.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> It’s grammatically plural, but that doesn’t stop it taking singular
>>>> >>>> referent (just like ‘you’).
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> The use of they as a singular for unknown gender is old and very
>>>> >>>>> common.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Indeed.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I've long seen it used when making a general reference which covers
>>>> >>> any number of people, and I don't have much of a problem with that.
>>>> >>> What's becoming more prevalent, though, is its use when referring
>>>> >>> to a single specific person - and that doesn't sit well with me.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Mind you, anything that smells of "wokeness" sets off my alarm bells.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thats terrible that you don't know woke means 'don't be stupid'.
>>>> > And is only used by those who are....
>>>>
>>>> I didn't understand where you were coming from. But I get it now. Fox
>>>> Entertaiment is your 'news' of choice. Because that is one of the
>>>> originators of such nonsense.
>>>> --
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Dearly beloved Jim., we don't get Fox news in the UK
>>>
>>
>> I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
>> the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
>> come through those papers as well.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Charles Richmond
>
> Yup, and the owner of Fox lives in England.
> --
> Jim
Sadly all of the 'gossip "newspapers"in Britain' are now owned by large
corporate left using organisations spreading the 'woke' meme as a way of
selling more shit.
The 'right' view is simply not profitable.
--
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Thu, 10 November 2022 05:24 |
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On 09/11/2022 18:07, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
>> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:57:34 -0600, Charles Richmond
>> <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
>>> the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
>>> come through those papers as well.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Charles Richmond
>>
>> Yup, and the owner of Fox lives in England.
>
> Does he? He was born in Australia and is a naturalized US
> citizen.
>
> (Note that I'm not defending him, his family, or Faux in any way).
>
Indeed. In the UK he has variously supported Thatcher, on the soft
right, Blair on the soft left and who knows who else.
I don't think he believes in anything except profit.
And I don't think he owns many UK papers anymore, He does own the Sky TV
operation, and Sky news is pretty left of centre .
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...than to have answers that cannot be questioned
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Thu, 10 November 2022 05:30 |
The Natural Philosoph
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On 09/11/2022 19:04, D.J. wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 18:07:30 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
> wrote:
>> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
>>> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:57:34 -0600, Charles Richmond
>>> <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
>>>> the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
>>>> come through those papers as well.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Charles Richmond
>>>
>>> Yup, and the owner of Fox lives in England.
>>
>> Does he? He was born in Australia and is a naturalized US
>> citizen.
>>
>> (Note that I'm not defending him, his family, or Faux in any way).
>
> Last time I saw him on telly, it was on the BBC America and they
> mentioned him and his kids were arguing on who would take over after
> he died. And it looked to me like they were in London, England.
> --
> Jim
Kids are British. He aint.
He only has the Times and the Sun left in the UK, and he ruined both.
Had to sell the rest after various scandals. Still owns Sky I think. But
that's on the wane as the Internet takes over from terrestrial and
satellite transmissions.
All mass media is compltely pwned by various consortia of commercial and
political interests. Many papers are nothing but cut and pasted press
releases. Some include material cut an pasted from mere general
newsfeeds like Reuters or Bloomberg.
But its all crap. If you want facts you cant rely on any of it.
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Thu, 10 November 2022 05:31 |
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On 09/11/2022 19:26, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
>> On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 18:07:30 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
>> wrote:
>>> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
>>>> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:57:34 -0600, Charles Richmond
>>>> <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
>>>> > the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
>>>> > come through those papers as well.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> > Charles Richmond
>>>>
>>>> Yup, and the owner of Fox lives in England.
>>>
>>> Does he? He was born in Australia and is a naturalized US
>>> citizen.
>>>
>>> (Note that I'm not defending him, his family, or Faux in any way).
>>
>> Last time I saw him on telly, it was on the BBC America and they
>> mentioned him and his kids were arguing on who would take over after
>> he died. And it looked to me like they were in London, England.
>
> On a visit, no doubt. Rupert lives in oz.
Thought he lived in the USA?
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all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is
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On 09/11/2022 19:26, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
>> On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 18:07:30 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
>> wrote:
>>> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> writes:
>>>> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:57:34 -0600, Charles Richmond
>>>> <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > I think you will find that the people who own FOX tv, also own many of
>>>> > the influential gossip "newspapers"in Britain... so their philosophies
>>>> > come through those papers as well.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> > Charles Richmond
>>>>
>>>> Yup, and the owner of Fox lives in England.
>>>
>>> Does he? He was born in Australia and is a naturalized US
>>> citizen.
>>>
>>> (Note that I'm not defending him, his family, or Faux in any way).
>>
>> Last time I saw him on telly, it was on the BBC America and they
>> mentioned him and his kids were arguing on who would take over after
>> he died. And it looked to me like they were in London, England.
>
> On a visit, no doubt. Rupert lives in oz.
I thought to check.
"In 2003, Murdoch bought "Rosehearty", an 11 bedroom home on a 5-acre
waterfront estate in Centre Island, New York. In May 2013, he purchased
the Moraga Estate, an estate, vineyard and winery in Bel Air, Los
Angeles, California. In 2019, Murdoch and his new wife Jerry Hall
purchased Holmwood, an 18th-century house and estate in the English
village of Binfield Heath, some 4 miles (6.4 km) north-east of Reading.
In late 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic, it was reported that Murdoch
and Hall had been isolating in their Binfield Heath home for much of the
year. He received his first COVID-19 vaccine in nearby Henley-on-Thames
on 16 December."
So it looks like he is UK or USA based these days
--
All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that
all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is
fully understood.
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| Re: self-documenting APL, not COBOL and tricks [message #417529 is a reply to message #417501] |
Thu, 10 November 2022 08:40 |
Peter Flass
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Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2022-11-09, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> Some people just aren't happy unless they're unhappy.
>>
>> So that’s why you get upset at “they” with singular referent...?
>
> No, I'm just irritated by woke-speak. I'm not against a language
> evolving - but I'm careful to point out the difference between
> evolution and decay. What we really need is a new pronoun to
> meet a newly-recognized requirement. This will extend English,
> rather than increasing ambiguity (as if it isn't bad enough already).
>
When I hear “they” I always think of someone like the woman with several
personalities. I wonder how well “they” get along with each other.
--
Pete
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