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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415553 is a reply to message #415531] |
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Originally posted by: Argot Brogue
On 7/25/22 12:29, D.J. wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 15:50:35 GMT, Charlie Gibbs
> <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2022-07-25, Argot Brogue <y@gb.sm> wrote:
>>
>>> Reducing men and women with innate rights to "population" object
>>> to justify nonsense.
>>
>> Why not? They've already been reduced to "consumers".
>>
>> History has told us time and again that once you've de-humanized
>> a group of people, you're free to do all sorts of things to them.
>
> You would think the trolls would demand better pay, they certainly
> post lots of nonsense.
> --
> Jim
Said like a textbook bugman.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415556 is a reply to message #415140] |
Mon, 25 July 2022 21:29 |
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Originally posted by: Auntie Wirus
On 7/18/22 10:28, Quadibloc wrote:
> You present zero evidence of that. Historical mistakes in
> reacting to disease do not invalidate current medical
> science.
> Your assertiions, based on no evidence, only political
> paranoia, do not outweigh information from credible sources
> when people face a potential threat to their lives.
>
> John Savard
You are shifting the burden of proof. This is a common tactic of people
entrenched in a corrupt or cultic belief system. This kind of
nonsensical flawed debate tactic probably seems quite normal to you.
I don't need to prove the virus doesn't exist. The burden of proof was,
is, and remains on you who claim that a virus is ravaging humanity and
putting us all in mortal peril. Scaremongering is not proof.
You need to prove that it does exist. You and your friends in the
imperial regime are claiming that a virus exists that is a extreme
mortal danger. Zero proof of the existence of this virus has ever been
provided. We even have a letter from the CDC stating that no isolate of
the virus exists. No isolate means nada, zip, zilch evidence. Them's the
rules of bona fide scientific inquiry.
Instead of shifting the burden of proof you need to realize you are
living in a delusional cult that believes in the virus fairy.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415557 is a reply to message #415547] |
Mon, 25 July 2022 21:55 |
Peter Flass
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Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2022-07-25, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>
>> According to those who must be obeyed, over 90% of people in Ireland
>> have been vaccinated, highest in the world, yet infections continue to
>> happen. As I wrote before, if I had animals and had bought vaccine for
>> some disease, and had it injected, and the animals continued to have
>> that disease, I would like to get my money back.
>
> That just means that the vaccines aren't perfect. In the world that
> I live in, nothing is perfect. The vaccines do help tip the odds in
> your favour, though.
>
> Life is a gamble. Deal with it.
>
Flu shots aren’t perfect, either. I think they’re around 40-50% effective,
but we still get them every year.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415561 is a reply to message #415557] |
Mon, 25 July 2022 23:10 |
Joe Pfeiffer
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Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2022-07-25, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>
>>> According to those who must be obeyed, over 90% of people in Ireland
>>> have been vaccinated, highest in the world, yet infections continue to
>>> happen. As I wrote before, if I had animals and had bought vaccine for
>>> some disease, and had it injected, and the animals continued to have
>>> that disease, I would like to get my money back.
>>
>> That just means that the vaccines aren't perfect. In the world that
>> I live in, nothing is perfect. The vaccines do help tip the odds in
>> your favour, though.
>>
>> Life is a gamble. Deal with it.
>>
>
> Flu shots aren’t perfect, either. I think they’re around 40-50% effective,
> but we still get them every year.
I do, and from your post I assume you do as well. I'll hazard a guess
"Argot Brogue" doesn't.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415587 is a reply to message #415537] |
Tue, 26 July 2022 12:38 |
D.J.
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On 25 Jul 2022 20:36:57 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
> On 2022-07-25, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>> On 25 Jul 2022 19:25:03 GMT
>> maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-07-25, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>> On 25 Jul 2022 16:45:24 GMT
>>>> maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > After all, it must be very hard to justify decisions who most ardent
>>>> > supporters now consider to have been a vast waste of money and time :)
>>>>
>>>> What are you talking about ? I've yet to encounter anyone who
>>>> seriously thinks the vaccinations were a waste of time and money.
>>>> a
>>> I will look for the citation. In our own fair country, the top vacciner
>>> seems to be having doubths.
>>
>> Not very serious ones it seems, the second booster option is being
>> extended downwards in age.
>
> the main trouble at the moment is that so many have been fooled into
> getting the vaccine that they have the feeling that they will look
> stupid when it turns out it was all a con.
The fools are the ones who didn't get vaccinated. Many of them dead
fools.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415588 is a reply to message #415525] |
Tue, 26 July 2022 12:43 |
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Originally posted by: Bud Spencer
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>>
>>> Vaccines are not one of them. There are certain things you cannot
>>> short-circuit, and with a vaccine trial, it's time.
>>
>> You're half right. We haven't discovered some miracle way to make vaccine
>> trials go faster with modern technology.
>>
>> However, my response is simple: what part of "emergency use authorization"
>> don't you understand? If you don't *have* the time, because there aren't
>> enough ventilators to go around to keep the population from dying like flies,
>> then not conducting vaccine trials to the same high standards as would be
>> the case for a less serious disease that is less widespread... is a rational
>> course of action.
>>
>> One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>>
>> John Savard
>
> I doubt the antivaxxers reason.
Might be interesting to hear the proper explanation why newborns are
vaccinated, when we know that immunity mechanisms are not yet developed
... so far I have not heard coherent reasoning for this.
If we follow the logic that we are told about the vaccines that their
purpose is to trigger immunity response by indroducing an "weakened"
version of some pathogens ...
This doesn't apply to these MRNA jabs they put into people nowadays.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415589 is a reply to message #415532] |
Tue, 26 July 2022 12:45 |
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Originally posted by: Bud Spencer
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:
> On 25 Jul 2022 15:56:19 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>> On 2022-07-25, D.J <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>>>>
>>>> John Savard
>>>
>>> I doubt the antivaxxers reason.
>>> --
>>> Jim
>>
>> I doubt whether many provaxers remain, except those who would like a
>> continuing income stream.
>
> The provaxers are alive, many of the antivaxers are dead.
Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415590 is a reply to message #415551] |
Tue, 26 July 2022 12:52 |
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Originally posted by: Bud Spencer
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, Argot Brogue wrote:
> On 7/25/22 15:55, Peter Flass wrote:
>> That’s a fairly stupid statement, since something like 70% of the
>> population has been vaccinated, and I doubt if many of us regret our
>> decision.
>
> Except for all the ones who were killed by the vax. How much would you wager
> that they regretted their decisions?
Yes. One just have to look into kill bates foundation human experiment in
India with their HPV "vaccine" and the disastrous outcomes. Yet people
trust this mental case ... It's beyond me why.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415597 is a reply to message #415537] |
Tue, 26 July 2022 15:53 |
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Originally posted by: Jim Jackson
On 2022-07-25, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
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>> The way I see it is the hospitals were on the verge of meltdown, we
>> went into a series of lockdowns and got most of us vaccinated, we released
>> the lockdowns and the hospitals didn't melt down.
>>
>
> According to those who must be obeyed, over 90% of people in Ireland
> have been vaccinated, highest in the world, yet infections continue to
> happen.
God you are thick! Before people were vaccinated, many got VERY ill and
needed ventilators and lots of hospitalisation. After Vaccination (and
of course Covid infection) a lot less people get VERY ill and a lot less
need hospitalisation.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415603 is a reply to message #415594] |
Tue, 26 July 2022 16:43 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2022-07-26, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300
>> Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> wrote:
>>
>>> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>>
>> <sigh> We're back to the old chestnut "100% of non-smokers die".
And 100% of alcoholics started on milk.
I think it was Heinlein who said, "Oxygen is a toxic, highly addictive
gas. As little as one breath can trigger a lifelong addiction, which
invariably ends in death."
> Kill files were added to usenet clients for a reason. The trolls attracted
> by the unfortunate choice to use the v word in an usenet subjectline are a fine
> start to a killfile if you don't already have one in place. Far better
> than trying to set them straight.
https://xkcd.com/386/
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/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Microsoft is a dictatorship.
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | Apple is a cult.
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | Linux is anarchy.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | Pick your poison.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415614 is a reply to message #415589] |
Tue, 26 July 2022 16:56 |
Peter Flass
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Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:
>
>> On 25 Jul 2022 15:56:19 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>> On 2022-07-25, D.J <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>> > On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>>>> >
>>>> > John Savard
>>>>
>>>> I doubt the antivaxxers reason.
>>>> --
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> I doubt whether many provaxers remain, except those who would like a
>>> continuing income stream.
>>
>> The provaxers are alive, many of the antivaxers are dead.
>
> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>
Pretty much everyone is going to die. The questions are when and how.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415615 is a reply to message #415603] |
Tue, 26 July 2022 16:57 |
Peter Flass
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Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2022-07-26, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300
>>> Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>>>
>>> <sigh> We're back to the old chestnut "100% of non-smokers die".
>
> And 100% of alcoholics started on milk.
>
> I think it was Heinlein who said, "Oxygen is a toxic, highly addictive
> gas. As little as one breath can trigger a lifelong addiction, which
> invariably ends in death."
>
>> Kill files were added to usenet clients for a reason. The trolls attracted
>> by the unfortunate choice to use the v word in an usenet subjectline are a fine
>> start to a killfile if you don't already have one in place. Far better
>> than trying to set them straight.
>
> https://xkcd.com/386/
>
I used to have this pasted up over my computer :-)
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415619 is a reply to message #415556] |
Tue, 26 July 2022 16:59 |
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On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 7:28:29 PM UTC-6, Auntie Wirus wrote:
> I don't need to prove the virus doesn't exist. The burden of proof was,
> is, and remains on you who claim that a virus is ravaging humanity and
> putting us all in mortal peril. Scaremongering is not proof.
1) Unless the mainstream media is just making things up, that burden
has already been met.
2) When the fire alarm sounds in a building, it is advisable to head
rapidly for the exit without first investigating whether it really is
on fire. Hence, your assignment of the burden of proof is not
rational or conducive to survival.
John Savard
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415651 is a reply to message #415589] |
Wed, 27 July 2022 10:48 |
D.J.
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300, Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it>
wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:
>
>> On 25 Jul 2022 15:56:19 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>> On 2022-07-25, D.J <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>> > On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>>>> >
>>>> > John Savard
>>>>
>>>> I doubt the antivaxxers reason.
>>>> --
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> I doubt whether many provaxers remain, except those who would like a
>>> continuing income stream.
>>
>> The provaxers are alive, many of the antivaxers are dead.
>
> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
Hmm, I didn't catch polio, measels, diptheria, and smallpox. So you
are just a liar.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415653 is a reply to message #415651] |
Wed, 27 July 2022 11:18 |
Harry Vaderchi
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 09:48:14 -0500
D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300, Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it>
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:
>>
>>> On 25 Jul 2022 15:56:19 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>> On 2022-07-25, D.J <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>>> > <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>> >> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> John Savard
>>>> >
>>>> > I doubt the antivaxxers reason.
>>>> > --
>>>> > Jim
>>>>
>>>> I doubt whether many provaxers remain, except those who would like a
>>>> continuing income stream.
>>>
>>> The provaxers are alive, many of the antivaxers are dead.
>>
>> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>
> Hmm, I didn't catch polio, measels, diptheria, and smallpox. So you
> are just a liar.
PDFTT
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415679 is a reply to message #415597] |
Thu, 28 July 2022 01:05 |
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Originally posted by: Voice of REASON
Jim Jackson wrote:
> On 2022-07-25, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> The way I see it is the hospitals were on the verge of meltdown, we
>>> went into a series of lockdowns and got most of us vaccinated, we released
>>> the lockdowns and the hospitals didn't melt down.
>>>
>>
>> According to those who must be obeyed, over 90% of people in Ireland
>> have been vaccinated, highest in the world, yet infections continue to
>> happen.
>
> God you are thick! Before people were vaccinated, many got VERY ill and
> needed ventilators and lots of hospitalisation. After Vaccination (and
> of course Covid infection) a lot less people get VERY ill and a lot less
> need hospitalisation.
>
That's not related to the vaccine. This is due to the virus evolving
into much less dangerous strains.
But don't worry, if you've had the fraudulent vaccine, you'll likely
get this particular collection of viruses over and over again until
your number comes up, assuming you don't "die suddenly".
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415680 is a reply to message #415508] |
Thu, 28 July 2022 01:12 |
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Originally posted by: Voice of REASON
Quadibloc wrote:
> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>
>> Vaccines are not one of them. There are certain things you cannot
>> short-circuit, and with a vaccine trial, it's time.
>
> You're half right. We haven't discovered some miracle way to make vaccine
> trials go faster with modern technology.
>
> However, my response is simple: what part of "emergency use authorization"
> don't you understand?
The EUAs were fraudulent. They are only permitted if there are no
adequate, approved, and available alternatives. But there were
alternatives, namely hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin and budesonide.
However, those drugs were demonized by people who were stupid, evil,
or who just wanted to line the pockets of major pharmaceutical firms
to the tune of billions of dollars.
> If you don't *have* the time, because there aren't
> enough ventilators to go around to keep the population
> from dying like flies,
Ventilators didn't help anyone. If you went on a ventilator, odds
were very high that you would leave the hospital in a box. We knew
this from data out of Wuhan.
> then not conducting vaccine trials to the same high standards as would be
> the case for a less serious disease that is less widespread... is a rational
> course of action.
>
> One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>
> John Savard
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415688 is a reply to message #415603] |
Thu, 28 July 2022 10:13 |
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Originally posted by: Bud Spencer
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2022-07-26, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300
>>> Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>>>
>>> <sigh> We're back to the old chestnut "100% of non-smokers die".
>
> And 100% of alcoholics started on milk.
In fact there was study long time ago that babies fed with toxic
soy-formula were more easier to develop addictions ...
> I think it was Heinlein who said, "Oxygen is a toxic, highly addictive
> gas. As little as one breath can trigger a lifelong addiction, which
> invariably ends in death."
Facts.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415689 is a reply to message #415619] |
Thu, 28 July 2022 10:23 |
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Originally posted by: Bud Spencer
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 7:28:29 PM UTC-6, Auntie Wirus wrote:
>
>> I don't need to prove the virus doesn't exist. The burden of proof was,
>> is, and remains on you who claim that a virus is ravaging humanity and
>> putting us all in mortal peril. Scaremongering is not proof.
>
> 1) Unless the mainstream media is just making things up, that burden
> has already been met.
But they are, you just don't hear it from them ... which might be obvious
:) They have scripts that are read all over the world, word to word. There
are a lot videos out there about this. Nice little compilations they are.
You should check them out, might enjoy them ...
> 2) When the fire alarm sounds in a building, it is advisable to head
> rapidly for the exit without first investigating whether it really is
> on fire. Hence, your assignment of the burden of proof is not
> rational or conducive to survival.
This has been nice little argument people who really believe everyword MSM
spits out have been using. Yet this argument only stands IF one really
believes everything MSM is spitting out.
Sure it's true in it's core, but cannot be used as analogy for certain
things.
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415690 is a reply to message #415621] |
Thu, 28 July 2022 10:26 |
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Originally posted by: Bud Spencer
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 12:00:40 PM UTC-6, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Far better
>> than trying to set them straight.
>
> I have no expectation of being able to accomplish that.
>
> Presenting counter-arguments only makes it harder for them to
> fool other people.
Which is the exact same logic people who are not agreeing with the
narrative we are pushed ... so in that sense your argument is that you are
also a troll, right?
Oh. No. I forgot that you KNOW you are right ...
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415691 is a reply to message #415651] |
Thu, 28 July 2022 10:28 |
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Originally posted by: Bud Spencer
On Wed, 27 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300, Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it>
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:
>>
>>> On 25 Jul 2022 15:56:19 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>> On 2022-07-25, D.J <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>>> > <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>> >> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> John Savard
>>>> >
>>>> > I doubt the antivaxxers reason.
>>>> > --
>>>> > Jim
>>>>
>>>> I doubt whether many provaxers remain, except those who would like a
>>>> continuing income stream.
>>>
>>> The provaxers are alive, many of the antivaxers are dead.
>>
>> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>
> Hmm, I didn't catch polio, measels, diptheria, and smallpox. So you
> are just a liar.
Just because you didn't catch the things you listed there, your logic is
that my argument "also yu are going to die" is invalid and I'm a liar?
That's one rational thinking right there. With that much emotions
involved, you must also identify as a female, right?
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415692 is a reply to message #415653] |
Thu, 28 July 2022 10:30 |
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Originally posted by: Bud Spencer
On Wed, 27 Jul 2022, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 09:48:14 -0500
> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:45:34 +0300, Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it>
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, D.J. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 25 Jul 2022 15:56:19 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>> > On 2022-07-25, D.J <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>>> >> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>> >>> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-6, Voice of REASON wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> One weighs costs against benefits in making decisions.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> John Savard
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I doubt the antivaxxers reason.
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Jim
>>>> >
>>>> > I doubt whether many provaxers remain, except those who would like a
>>>> > continuing income stream.
>>>>
>>>> The provaxers are alive, many of the antivaxers are dead.
>>>
>>> Not true. All vaxers are going to die. Your argument is invalid.
>>
>> Hmm, I didn't catch polio, measels, diptheria, and smallpox. So you
>> are just a liar.
>
>
> PDFTT
Obscurum per obscurius, ignotum per ignotius.
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₪ BUD ₪
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415693 is a reply to message #415679] |
Thu, 28 July 2022 10:37 |
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Originally posted by: Bud Spencer
On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, Voice of REASON wrote:
> Jim Jackson wrote:
>> On 2022-07-25, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The way I see it is the hospitals were on the verge of meltdown, we
>>>> went into a series of lockdowns and got most of us vaccinated, we released
>>>> the lockdowns and the hospitals didn't melt down.
>>>>
>>>
>>> According to those who must be obeyed, over 90% of people in Ireland
>>> have been vaccinated, highest in the world, yet infections continue to
>>> happen.
>>
>> God you are thick! Before people were vaccinated, many got VERY ill and
>> needed ventilators and lots of hospitalisation. After Vaccination (and
>> of course Covid infection) a lot less people get VERY ill and a lot less
>> need hospitalisation.
>>
>
> This is due to the virus evolving into much less dangerous strains.
So far it's not been explained to me how things that are not alive
(mayority of biologists says so, not me) can "evolve" ... even if we
believe darwinian evolution this is not making sense. And these are the
accepted "facts" of medical "science" we have ...
But ... maybe those are possible by adding some Virtual particles into the
mathematical equations to prove it's possible ... maybe it just need firm
BELIEF into the cult of science.
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₪ BUD ₪
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415697 is a reply to message #415693] |
Thu, 28 July 2022 15:13 |
Peter Flass
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Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, Voice of REASON wrote:
>
>> Jim Jackson wrote:
>>> On 2022-07-25, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > The way I see it is the hospitals were on the verge of meltdown, we
>>>> > went into a series of lockdowns and got most of us vaccinated, we released
>>>> > the lockdowns and the hospitals didn't melt down.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> According to those who must be obeyed, over 90% of people in Ireland
>>>> have been vaccinated, highest in the world, yet infections continue to
>>>> happen.
>>>
>>> God you are thick! Before people were vaccinated, many got VERY ill and
>>> needed ventilators and lots of hospitalisation. After Vaccination (and
>>> of course Covid infection) a lot less people get VERY ill and a lot less
>>> need hospitalisation.
>>>
>>
>> This is due to the virus evolving into much less dangerous strains.
>
> So far it's not been explained to me how things that are not alive
> (mayority of biologists says so, not me) can "evolve" ... even if we
> believe darwinian evolution this is not making sense. And these are the
> accepted "facts" of medical "science" we have ...
>
> But ... maybe those are possible by adding some Virtual particles into the
> mathematical equations to prove it's possible ... maybe it just need firm
> BELIEF into the cult of science.
>
If you don’t understand it, maybe you should take some biology courses. I’d
rather believe someone with a PhD or MD than someone who’s done a lot of
“research” on the internet.
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Pete
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| Re: what's a virus, Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against? [message #415701 is a reply to message #415697] |
Thu, 28 July 2022 15:50 |
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Originally posted by: Jim Jackson
On 2022-07-28, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, Voice of REASON wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Jackson wrote:
>>>> On 2022-07-25, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The way I see it is the hospitals were on the verge of meltdown, we
>>>> >> went into a series of lockdowns and got most of us vaccinated, we released
>>>> >> the lockdowns and the hospitals didn't melt down.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > According to those who must be obeyed, over 90% of people in Ireland
>>>> > have been vaccinated, highest in the world, yet infections continue to
>>>> > happen.
>>>>
>>>> God you are thick! Before people were vaccinated, many got VERY ill and
>>>> needed ventilators and lots of hospitalisation. After Vaccination (and
>>>> of course Covid infection) a lot less people get VERY ill and a lot less
>>>> need hospitalisation.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is due to the virus evolving into much less dangerous strains.
>>
>> So far it's not been explained to me how things that are not alive
>> (mayority of biologists says so, not me) can "evolve" ... even if we
>> believe darwinian evolution this is not making sense. And these are the
>> accepted "facts" of medical "science" we have ...
>>
>> But ... maybe those are possible by adding some Virtual particles into the
>> mathematical equations to prove it's possible ... maybe it just need firm
>> BELIEF into the cult of science.
>>
>
> If you don't understand it, maybe you should take some biology courses. I'd
> rather believe someone with a PhD or MD than someone who's done a lot of
> 'research' on the internet.
>
I'm afraid some people you can't even discuss things with - because they
don't approach the world in any sort of rational way. The clues are
often in the dogmatic, extreme way they put their case. Unfortunately
you get a higher percentage of the nutters here than you meet in real life.
Anyway killfiles work.
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