| Using the serial port to transfer files? [message #378132] |
Thu, 13 December 2018 09:08  |
Christian Wacker
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I recieved a keyboard and mouse in the mail yesterday and my Mac Classic
fired right up after nearly 10 years in storage (none of it climate
controlled). When I last used it I did recap parts of the board and was
shocked to see that it fired up and the hard disk still worked!
Now I'm on the hunt for a way to transfer files across. It has Stuffit on
the disk, but I don't have a single floppy drive or disk anywhere. I know I
could probably get one, but my only other mac is a first gen macbook (Core
Solo, 2gb of RAM, etc)
I have piles of serial communication hardware from microcomputer projects
and SBC applications. Is there any documentation on making a PC to Mac
serial bridge and just shooting files across using something like xmodem?
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| Re: Using the serial port to transfer files? [message #378142 is a reply to message #378132] |
Thu, 13 December 2018 09:25  |
Jonathan Morton
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> On 13 Dec, 2018, at 4:08 pm, Christian Wacker <pizzaboy192@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I have piles of serial communication hardware from microcomputer projects and SBC applications. Is there any documentation on making a PC to Mac serial bridge and just shooting files across using something like xmodem?
Yes, it's straightforward. The Mac serial ports technically use RS-422 while PCs use RS-232, but you can wire up a plain cable and they'll talk to each other just fine.
There are instructions on making such a cable here: http://www.ccadams.org/se/serial.html
If you don't have appropriate serial cables but *do* have an analogue modem for each machine, then you can cheat up a dummy phone line for them to talk over. Instruct one modem to pick up, and the other to dial a 1-digit number without listening for a dialtone. Whether you use that for xmodem or go the extra mile of setting up PPP and then using FTP is up to you.
As far as software is concerned, I recall ClarisWorks 3 had a communications terminal built in. There are undoubtedly more lightweight alternatives as well - try Macintosh Garden.
- Jonathan Morton
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| Re: Using the serial port to transfer files? [message #378143 is a reply to message #378142] |
Thu, 13 December 2018 11:13 |
NODEraser
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I can send you some floppies if you'd like, a USB floppy drive should
be available pretty cheap.
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 6:25 AM Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 13 Dec, 2018, at 4:08 pm, Christian Wacker <pizzaboy192@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I have piles of serial communication hardware from microcomputer projects and SBC applications. Is there any documentation on making a PC to Mac serial bridge and just shooting files across using something like xmodem?
>
> Yes, it's straightforward. The Mac serial ports technically use RS-422 while PCs use RS-232, but you can wire up a plain cable and they'll talk to each other just fine.
>
> There are instructions on making such a cable here: http://www.ccadams.org/se/serial.html
>
> If you don't have appropriate serial cables but *do* have an analogue modem for each machine, then you can cheat up a dummy phone line for them to talk over. Instruct one modem to pick up, and the other to dial a 1-digit number without listening for a dialtone. Whether you use that for xmodem or go the extra mile of setting up PPP and then using FTP is up to you.
>
> As far as software is concerned, I recall ClarisWorks 3 had a communications terminal built in. There are undoubtedly more lightweight alternatives as well - try Macintosh Garden.
>
> - Jonathan Morton
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| Re: Using the serial port to transfer files? [message #378148 is a reply to message #378143] |
Thu, 13 December 2018 12:33 |
Christian Wacker
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I should have some floppies that will turn up if I do cleaning (I know I
saved a pile of them somewhere) and digging up a USB floppy drive shouldn't
be too bad. The next hurdle will be seeing if the floppy drive survived
after years of neglect and outdoor elements.
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 10:13 AM NODEraser <noderaser@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can send you some floppies if you'd like, a USB floppy drive should
> be available pretty cheap.
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 6:25 AM Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>> On 13 Dec, 2018, at 4:08 pm, Christian Wacker <pizzaboy192@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have piles of serial communication hardware from microcomputer
> projects and SBC applications. Is there any documentation on making a PC to
> Mac serial bridge and just shooting files across using something like
> xmodem?
>>
>> Yes, it's straightforward. The Mac serial ports technically use RS-422
> while PCs use RS-232, but you can wire up a plain cable and they'll talk to
> each other just fine.
>>
>> There are instructions on making such a cable here:
> http://www.ccadams.org/se/serial.html
>>
>> If you don't have appropriate serial cables but *do* have an analogue
> modem for each machine, then you can cheat up a dummy phone line for them
> to talk over. Instruct one modem to pick up, and the other to dial a
> 1-digit number without listening for a dialtone. Whether you use that for
> xmodem or go the extra mile of setting up PPP and then using FTP is up to
> you.
>>
>> As far as software is concerned, I recall ClarisWorks 3 had a
> communications terminal built in. There are undoubtedly more lightweight
> alternatives as well - try Macintosh Garden.
>>
>> - Jonathan Morton
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