Article-I.D.: unmg.342
Posted: Fri Dec 13 08:29:52 1985
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Ok all you 520st enthusiasts, its time to stop dreaming.  The atari
st is an incredible low end home computer.  But it is NOT an Amiga.
Sure, with some very difficult assembly language code (counting cycles!
egad!) - you can copy the bouncing ball, but if anyone seriously thinks 
a ST can match up to the Amiga, they are crazy.  

I don't own either machine, and probably never will, however I have
researched both.  Both have merits of their own, but they are two
completely different machines.  The Amiga is a better computer, flat
out, and it also costs twice as much.  Which is better for the money?
I don't know, but I am tired of hearing atari salesmen, and atari
owners, blabbing that the ST is "the same thing as an Amiga".  That
quote came directly from an atari salesman.  

I am not about to list features, but if this letter makes you red, grab
the specs for both machines and see for yourself.  No comparison.

Article-I.D.: unmc.565
Posted: Sat Dec 14 15:17:15 1985
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 >  Ok all you 520st enthusiasts, its time to stop dreaming.  The atari
 >  st is an incredible low end home computer.  But it is NOT an Amiga.
 >  Sure, with some very difficult assembly language code (counting cycles!
 >  egad!) - you can copy the bouncing ball, but if anyone seriously thinks 
 >  a ST can match up to the Amiga, they are crazy.  
 >  
 >  I don't own either machine, and probably never will, however I have
 >  researched both.  Both have merits of their own, but they are two
 >  completely different machines.  The Amiga is a better computer, flat
 >  out, and it also costs twice as much.  Which is better for the money?
 >  I don't know, but I am tired of hearing atari salesmen, and atari
 >  owners, blabbing that the ST is "the same thing as an Amiga".  That
 >  quote came directly from an atari salesman.  
 >  
 >  I am not about to list features, but if this letter makes you red, grab
 >  the specs for both machines and see for yourself.  No comparison.


      Oh, come off it!! Your message before this totally destroys
      your credibility.  You sell Amigas - therefore you are 
      biased in its favor.  The ST is a great machine for the price;
      the Amiga is a great machine, but I can't afford 1795 to get
      one.  Come down off your high horse and go use an ST - it is
      a great machine, with a great price!!!

					 V.J. Murphy
					 B.K. Thaeler

Article-I.D.: trwrba.1736
Posted: Wed Dec 18 11:18:53 1985
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In article <342@unmg.UUCP> tvillan@unmg.UUCP writes:
 > Ok all you 520st enthusiasts, its time to stop dreaming.  The atari
 > st is an incredible low end home computer.  But it is NOT an Amiga.

Thanks for the compliment (:-)

 > I don't own either machine, and probably never will, however I have
 > researched both.  Both have merits of their own...

Gee, I guess that makes you an authority on the subject (unlike those
of us who actually OWN an ST or Amiga :-)

 >                         ...The Amiga is a better computer, flat out,
 > and it also costs twice as much.  Which is better for the money?
 > I don't know...

I'm sure you don't (make up your mind!)

 >                  ...I am tired of hearing atari salesmen, and atari
 > owners, blabbing that the ST is "the same thing as an Amiga".  That
 > quote came directly from an atari salesman.

We all know how much knowledge salesmen possess (I base all of my
buying decisions on what they don't know :-).  Seriously, I own an ST
(not a "520st") and am probably going to buy an amiga (Amiga :-)
sometime in the future.  I, for one, do not believe that the two
computers are "the same thing".  However, I do believe that if people
can stop arguing about which machine is better, then we might be able
to help both machines find strong positions in the (presently boring) PC
marketplace.  Buy an Amiga or ST and write some software!

Richard E. Sansom
{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!trwrb!trwrba!sansom

Article-I.D.: aum.410
Posted: Wed Dec 18 12:00:52 1985
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 >  Ok all you 520st enthusiasts, its time to stop dreaming.  The atari
 >  st is an incredible low end home computer.  But it is NOT an Amiga.
 >  Sure, with some very difficult assembly language code (counting cycles!
 >  egad!) - you can copy the bouncing ball, but if anyone seriously thinks 
 >  a ST can match up to the Amiga, they are crazy.  
 >  
 >  I don't own either machine, and probably never will, however I have
 >  researched both.  Both have merits of their own, but they are two
 >  completely different machines.  The Amiga is a better computer, flat
 >  out, and it also costs twice as much.  Which is better for the money?
 >  I don't know, but I am tired of hearing atari salesmen, and atari
 >  owners, blabbing that the ST is "the same thing as an Amiga".  That
 >  quote came directly from an atari salesman.  
 >  
 >  I am not about to list features, but if this letter makes you red, grab
 >  the specs for both machines and see for yourself.  No comparison.

I hate to think that it is really me that is involved in a ST vs Amiga war
but I have to take exception to this article. There are a lot of very cute
and superior things about the Amiga. There are also undeniably superior 
features that the ST can boast. I am incredulous that the Usenet has spawned 
so many articles devoid of any reasoning and filled with such misguided
emotion. If I can get a computer that has a 68000, 640 x 400 non-interlaced
graphics, and that runs code faster than than any other personal computer
(including the amiga -see the drystones) And I can get it for $600 
(yes it has been discounted that low) I feel that that is a far superior 
computer *FOR ME*. I however do not really need the color, sound capabilities, 
bus expansion, animation, and hope to use OS-9. The type of reasoning that is 
being displayed in some of these articles seems more appropriate while 
discussing football teams at one's favorite bar.
-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                           Erik James Freed
			   Aurora Systems
			   San Francisco, CA
			   {dual,ptsfa}!aum!freed

Article-I.D.: gitpyr.1193
Posted: Tue Dec 17 23:07:40 1985
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Summary: If you are sick of the 520ST discussion, don't waste time reading this.

In article <565@unmc.UUCP>, ma3752af@unmc.UUCP writes:
 >>  Ok all you 520st enthusiasts, its time to stop dreaming.  The atari
 >>  st is an incredible low end home computer.  But it is NOT an Amiga.
 >>  Sure, with some very difficult assembly language code (counting cycles!
 >>  egad!) - you can copy the bouncing ball, but if anyone seriously thinks 
 >>  a ST can match up to the Amiga, they are crazy.  
 >  
 >  
 >        Oh, come off it!! Your message before this totally destroys
 >        your credibility.  You sell Amigas - therefore you are 
 >        biased in its favor.  The ST is a great machine for the price;
 >        the Amiga is a great machine, but I can't afford 1795 to get
 >        one.  Come down off your high horse and go use an ST - it is
 >        a great machine, with a great price!!!
 >  
 >  					 V.J. Murphy
 >  					 B.K. Thaeler

Are we back to this garbage again???  Could you people please post your
f*****g comparisons to net.bullshit?  I, for one, am really tired of
this crap!  I own an Amiga and am not really interested in whether or
not you think I made the right decision.  I've got better things to do
than listen to you be insecure about which computer you bought.

Lee