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Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236808 is a reply to message #236796] Wed, 25 April 2007 21:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Michael Bowker

Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <132vb1k49t66v2b@corp.supernews.com>,
> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>
>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>> In article <132v42br6gclc61@news.supernews.com>,
>>> pv+usenet@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>> > I'll also never forgive Buffy and Stargate for becoming 'hot' in the
>>>> > last few years of XF and stealing the whole damn fan community away from
>>>> > a show that I was still just as much into as ever, and wanted to keep
>>>> Um, what? That makes no sense at all.
>>>>
>>>> > sharing a love for with all those people. I'm convinced if not for those
>>>> > shows, the 'ex-Philes who disowned the last few seasons without hardly
>>>> > even really watching them' phenomenon would not have been anywhere near
>>>> > as pervasive.
>>>> How dare someone put out better television! *
>>> Paramount's worked for years to make Trek worse!
>> Yes but they have extra resources dedicated to that single purpose.
>> Look at Nemesis.
>
> They've also been spectacularly successful. Now they're even going back
> and making real Trek retroactively worse!

OK, OK. I realize you don't like the special effects, but there's no
way anything they can do to real Star Trek could approach how bad
Nemesis was. :) But I like the remastered Star Trek. I know it was
done by hacks and it isn't as good as it could be. But for all that
it's not bad. :)
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236809 is a reply to message #236805] Wed, 25 April 2007 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> writes:
>
> Well, to be accurate about it, Buffy stole the XF fanbase and SG stole
> the Star Trek fanbase. ;)

To be even more accurate, XF and ST gave away their fanbases.

> VM made a valiant effort at stealing the Gg fanbase, but darn those
> Lorelais, they fought her off with even dirtier tricks and cuter
> noses.

VM?
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236810 is a reply to message #236808] Wed, 25 April 2007 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:50:52 -0700, Michael Bowker
<mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:

> OK, OK. I realize you don't like the special effects, but there's no
> way anything they can do to real Star Trek could approach how bad
> Nemesis was. :)

The final episode of Enterprise is far, far, far worse than even Star
Trek V: The Search For Spock (aka: Star Trek V: We're Off to See the
Wizard), which I considered to be the single worst installment of all
Trek until Berman and Braga fucked up ENT's finale. Isn't that
episode considered to be entirely apocryphal by now?

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236811 is a reply to message #236807] Wed, 25 April 2007 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 26 Apr 2007 00:49:32 GMT, "It's the Principle!"
<brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:

> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>
>> On 25 Apr 2007 23:19:27 GMT, "It's the Principle!"
>> <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>>>
>>>> It's the Principle! wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > X-Files was extraordinarily popular because of the
>>>> > genre.
>>>>
>>>> Which genre is that? Sci-fi? Crime drama? Serial? Conspiracy
>>>> theory? Action? Horror? Forensic investigation? Mystery? Satire?
>>>> Law enforcement procedural? Quirky character study with intense
>>>> chemistry and sly humour? Art-film-like cinematic
>>>> experimentation with a thitherto unique
>>>> approach to set design and camera work? It was all of these,
>>>> and more,
>>>> and changed the face of television by putting them all together
>>>> into a unified package that was unlike anything before, and has
>>>> influenced almost everything on TV since.
>>>>
>>>> XF may have been 'popular' for a while because of one or two of
>>>> the many genres it revolutionised. It was *great* because it
>>>> transcended genre, and melded the culturally resonant creative
>>>> visions of many brilliant, hard-working people into something
>>>> beyond all classifications that smashed through and outshone all
>>>> the other entertainment of the time like a bright shining
>>>> meteor.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The genre is sci-fi. Just because plotlines contain other
>>> elements, doesn't make the genre change. It like immediate cause
>>> of death and consequences contributing to death. It may be heart
>>> failure (sci-fi), but that doesn't mean that heart disease,
>>> electric shock, COPD, or any other factor changes it from being
>>> heart failure.
>>
>> The genre is horror. Or have you forgotten "Home?"
>>
>
>
> Did you not understand a single word I posted in the article you
> replied to with that question?

Dude, I'm soooooooooooooooo beyond caring at this point. We're in a
zombie thread now.

-- Rob
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LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236812 is a reply to message #236724] Thu, 26 April 2007 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Mark Nobles

Ken from Chicago <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:

> "Mark Nobles" <cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com> wrote
>> Lukan <misfitskibssfvan@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Either Mulder or CSM mentioned this date as the day the world ends, or
>>>> the invasion begins, or some such thing. At any rate, this date is part
>>>> of the overarching X-Files mythology.
>>>
>>> The same mythology that got so obtuse and open ended that it drove
>>> viewers from the show in packs.
>>
>> But not until Chris Carter admitted he could never resolve anything and
>> killed off most of the conspirators.
>>
>> But I'm thinking there is a way to tie the two mythologies together
>> which would bring some semblance of meaning to the X-Files myth by
>> joining it with the Stargate myth - at least as the myth was in the
>> distant past when the snake-like goa'uld were posing as gods, which
>> allows a little inconsistency with the current Stargate myth.
>>
>> Quetzalcoatl was a feathered snake, not completely unlike Apophis,
>> although he was a god of fertility and creation, while Apophis was a
>> god of chaos and destruction. Both are part of societies that built
>> monumental pyramids as landing sites for space ships. They both have
>> the mysterious gray aliens with very advanced technology. Earth plays
>> an unbelievably important part in interplanetary affairs, being the
>> source of all the slaves the Goa'uld carried to colonies all over the
>> galaxy, and the destination of the X-Files colonists.
>>
>> Ok, I have no way to make sense of the two kinds of clones and the
>> hybrids, the bees, the infection(s?), the shape-shipping aliens, the
>> aliens with their eyes sewed shut, the Navajo language and the crashed
>> UFO with the text of the bible carved in its skin in Navajo. But wasn't
>> there a goa'uld working on something similar to the hybrids and
>> infection who infected the entire planet and made them forget
>> everything?
>>
>> The main thing, get Fox Mulder together with Daniel Jackson and let
>> them compare notes. Watch Dr. Scully and Dr. Carter get together and
>> make fun of the conspiracies. Best of all, get AD Skinner in a meeting
>> with Col. Caldwell.
>>
>> I'm telling you, these go together like chocolate and peanut butter.
>
> This has all happened before and will all happen again.

So you're saying the Cylons will arrive that day?
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236813 is a reply to message #236808] Thu, 26 April 2007 00:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <13301btt1a2jf9e@corp.supernews.com>,
Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> In article <132vb1k49t66v2b@corp.supernews.com>,
>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>>> In article <132v42br6gclc61@news.supernews.com>,
>>>> pv+usenet@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>> >> I'll also never forgive Buffy and Stargate for becoming 'hot' in the
>>>> >> last few years of XF and stealing the whole damn fan community away
>>>> >> from
>>>> >> a show that I was still just as much into as ever, and wanted to keep
>>>> > Um, what? That makes no sense at all.
>>>> >
>>>> >> sharing a love for with all those people. I'm convinced if not for
>>>> >> those
>>>> >> shows, the 'ex-Philes who disowned the last few seasons without hardly
>>>> >> even really watching them' phenomenon would not have been anywhere near
>>>> >> as pervasive.
>>>> > How dare someone put out better television! *
>>>> Paramount's worked for years to make Trek worse!
>>> Yes but they have extra resources dedicated to that single purpose.
>>> Look at Nemesis.
>>
>> They've also been spectacularly successful. Now they're even going back
>> and making real Trek retroactively worse!
>
> OK, OK. I realize you don't like the special effects, but there's no
> way anything they can do to real Star Trek could approach how bad
> Nemesis was. :) But I like the remastered Star Trek. I know it was
> done by hacks and it isn't as good as it could be. But for all that
> it's not bad. :)

Come on. People saying "You must go inside the temple and make the blue
flame come out" and they put in freaking ORANGE FLAME? -- it's like
they're TRYING to make it bad because they don't like real Trek. Which,
given that they're castoffs of Berman and Braga, is quite possibly the
case.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236814 is a reply to message #236809] Thu, 26 April 2007 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <1bodlbj0ps.fsf@snowball.wb.comcast.net>,
Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:

> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> writes:
>>
>> Well, to be accurate about it, Buffy stole the XF fanbase and SG stole
>> the Star Trek fanbase. ;)
>
> To be even more accurate, XF and ST gave away their fanbases.

To be even more accurate, ST drove away their fanbase, and gave the
villagers torches to keep them away.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236815 is a reply to message #236813] Thu, 26 April 2007 01:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Michael Bowker

Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <13301btt1a2jf9e@corp.supernews.com>,
> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>
>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>> In article <132vb1k49t66v2b@corp.supernews.com>,
>>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>>> > In article <132v42br6gclc61@news.supernews.com>,
>>>> > pv+usenet@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>> >>> I'll also never forgive Buffy and Stargate for becoming 'hot' in the
>>>> >>> last few years of XF and stealing the whole damn fan community away
>>>> >>> from
>>>> >>> a show that I was still just as much into as ever, and wanted to keep
>>>> >> Um, what? That makes no sense at all.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> sharing a love for with all those people. I'm convinced if not for
>>>> >>> those
>>>> >>> shows, the 'ex-Philes who disowned the last few seasons without hardly
>>>> >>> even really watching them' phenomenon would not have been anywhere near
>>>> >>> as pervasive.
>>>> >> How dare someone put out better television! *
>>>> > Paramount's worked for years to make Trek worse!
>>>> Yes but they have extra resources dedicated to that single purpose.
>>>> Look at Nemesis.
>>> They've also been spectacularly successful. Now they're even going back
>>> and making real Trek retroactively worse!
>> OK, OK. I realize you don't like the special effects, but there's no
>> way anything they can do to real Star Trek could approach how bad
>> Nemesis was. :) But I like the remastered Star Trek. I know it was
>> done by hacks and it isn't as good as it could be. But for all that
>> it's not bad. :)
>
> Come on. People saying "You must go inside the temple and make the blue
> flame come out" and they put in freaking ORANGE FLAME? -- it's like
> they're TRYING to make it bad because they don't like real Trek. Which,
> given that they're castoffs of Berman and Braga, is quite possibly the
> case.

I like the planets. Sure there are stupid things, like when in the
middle of orbiting a planet (during Mirror, Mirror) we see the Big E
hell bent for leather flying through space. But seeing the Klingon
cruiser in Fridays Child or the Big E and a D7 orbiting K7 seem to me
well worth the trade (for me). I'm more upset when they cut dialog
scenes, but even though a lot of the stuff looks like it's video game
quality, I like it. :) Don't worry I don't expect you to agree, we've
established long ago that your professional eye isn't equipped with an
on/off switch. :) I'm also glad because two of my local stations are
showing real Star Trek during normal (enough) hours and if the price is
an occasional "What the bleep was that", I can live with that. :)
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236816 is a reply to message #236814] Thu, 26 April 2007 01:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Michael Bowker

Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <1bodlbj0ps.fsf@snowball.wb.comcast.net>,
> Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> writes:
>>> Well, to be accurate about it, Buffy stole the XF fanbase and SG stole
>>> the Star Trek fanbase. ;)
>> To be even more accurate, XF and ST gave away their fanbases.
>
> To be even more accurate, ST drove away their fanbase, and gave the
> villagers torches to keep them away.

Heh. :) That's funny. I assume your referring to B&B ST?
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236817 is a reply to message #236816] Thu, 26 April 2007 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <1330dboirte6v6f@corp.supernews.com>,
Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> In article <1bodlbj0ps.fsf@snowball.wb.comcast.net>,
>> Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> writes:
>>>> Well, to be accurate about it, Buffy stole the XF fanbase and SG stole
>>>> the Star Trek fanbase. ;)
>>> To be even more accurate, XF and ST gave away their fanbases.
>>
>> To be even more accurate, ST drove away their fanbase, and gave the
>> villagers torches to keep them away.
>
> Heh. :) That's funny. I assume your referring to B&B ST?

Yep. Several movies, Voyager, Enterprise . . .
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236818 is a reply to message #236812] Thu, 26 April 2007 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Mark Nobles" <cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:250420072333416187%cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com...
> Ken from Chicago <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "Mark Nobles" <cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com> wrote
>>> Lukan <misfitskibssfvan@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > Either Mulder or CSM mentioned this date as the day the world ends,
>>>> > or
>>>> > the invasion begins, or some such thing. At any rate, this date is
>>>> > part
>>>> > of the overarching X-Files mythology.
>>>>
>>>> The same mythology that got so obtuse and open ended that it drove
>>>> viewers from the show in packs.
>>>
>>> But not until Chris Carter admitted he could never resolve anything and
>>> killed off most of the conspirators.
>>>
>>> But I'm thinking there is a way to tie the two mythologies together
>>> which would bring some semblance of meaning to the X-Files myth by
>>> joining it with the Stargate myth - at least as the myth was in the
>>> distant past when the snake-like goa'uld were posing as gods, which
>>> allows a little inconsistency with the current Stargate myth.
>>>
>>> Quetzalcoatl was a feathered snake, not completely unlike Apophis,
>>> although he was a god of fertility and creation, while Apophis was a
>>> god of chaos and destruction. Both are part of societies that built
>>> monumental pyramids as landing sites for space ships. They both have
>>> the mysterious gray aliens with very advanced technology. Earth plays
>>> an unbelievably important part in interplanetary affairs, being the
>>> source of all the slaves the Goa'uld carried to colonies all over the
>>> galaxy, and the destination of the X-Files colonists.
>>>
>>> Ok, I have no way to make sense of the two kinds of clones and the
>>> hybrids, the bees, the infection(s?), the shape-shipping aliens, the
>>> aliens with their eyes sewed shut, the Navajo language and the crashed
>>> UFO with the text of the bible carved in its skin in Navajo. But wasn't
>>> there a goa'uld working on something similar to the hybrids and
>>> infection who infected the entire planet and made them forget
>>> everything?
>>>
>>> The main thing, get Fox Mulder together with Daniel Jackson and let
>>> them compare notes. Watch Dr. Scully and Dr. Carter get together and
>>> make fun of the conspiracies. Best of all, get AD Skinner in a meeting
>>> with Col. Caldwell.
>>>
>>> I'm telling you, these go together like chocolate and peanut butter.
>>
>> This has all happened before and will all happen again.
>
> So you're saying the Cylons will arrive that day?

Wrong tense.

-- Ken from Chicago
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236819 is a reply to message #236785] Thu, 26 April 2007 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Sean Carroll" <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>> "suzee" <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote
>>> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>
>>>> Why 12-21-2012?
>
>>> Look up Mayan Calendar....
>
>> Excuse me for not being Mayan.
>
> You're excused -- THIS time. Just don't let it happen again.
>
> --
> --Sean
> http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
> 'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
> sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House

This has all happened before and will all happen again.

-- Ken from Chicago (the new number 2)
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236820 is a reply to message #236788] Thu, 26 April 2007 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Forge

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:47:36 -0400, Sean Carroll wrote:

> It won awards because it was a great show. It got all the magazine
> covers for a couple of years, and a huge cancerous mob of fair-weather
> 'fans' who were only watching because they wanted to see Mulder and
> Scully kiss, because it was popular. And it failed to win anywhere near
> the number of awards it deserved because other, inferior shows were
> always more popular, except for a brief period.

I lost interest because - and it was the progenitor of this trend, and at
least a dozen or so shows have followed along - it presented mystery after
mystery after conspiracy after what the f*ck after he's in on it and she's
not and he is and oh god, watch out for THAT guy, AND NEVER BOTHERED TO
OFFER ANY KIND OF RESOLUTION. Ever. Even the "wraps it all up in the end"
finale episode was like, "Oh, well, THAT answers EVERYTHING. Uh, except
totally fricking NOT." It pissed me off. A lot! And I'm not alone in this.

I liked Alias at first but then they did the same thing; I didn't even
bother starting to watch Lost because I knew it'd be exactly the same
stupid fucking thing; La Femme Nikita, eccch; I'm beginning to think Kyle
XY is going pretty much the same way. Bah!!! Think I'll go read some
Vonnegut.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236821 is a reply to message #236820] Thu, 26 April 2007 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Victor Velazquez

"Forge" <forge@allspammersshoulddie.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:47:36 -0400, Sean Carroll wrote:
>
>> It won awards because it was a great show. It got all the magazine
>> covers for a couple of years, and a huge cancerous mob of fair-weather
>> 'fans' who were only watching because they wanted to see Mulder and
>> Scully kiss, because it was popular. And it failed to win anywhere near
>> the number of awards it deserved because other, inferior shows were
>> always more popular, except for a brief period.
>
> I lost interest because - and it was the progenitor of this trend, and at
> least a dozen or so shows have followed along - it presented mystery after
> mystery after conspiracy after what the f*ck after he's in on it and she's
> not and he is and oh god, watch out for THAT guy, AND NEVER BOTHERED TO
> OFFER ANY KIND OF RESOLUTION. Ever. Even the "wraps it all up in the end"
> finale episode was like, "Oh, well, THAT answers EVERYTHING. Uh, except
> totally fricking NOT." It pissed me off. A lot! And I'm not alone in this.
>
> I liked Alias at first but then they did the same thing; I didn't even
> bother starting to watch Lost because I knew it'd be exactly the same
> stupid fucking thing; La Femme Nikita, eccch; I'm beginning to think Kyle
> XY is going pretty much the same way. Bah!!! Think I'll go read some
> Vonnegut.

It should surprise no one that mysteries are best told through a finite
medium. Even so, I'll take 'em where I find 'em!
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236822 is a reply to message #236819] Thu, 26 April 2007 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <KKKdnbtO8fqy0q3bnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:

> "Sean Carroll" <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:QAKXh.107270$s8.74946@newsfe21.lga...
>> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>> "suzee" <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote
>>>> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>
>>>> >Why 12-21-2012?
>>
>>>> Look up Mayan Calendar....
>>
>>> Excuse me for not being Mayan.
>>
>> You're excused -- THIS time. Just don't let it happen again.
>>
>> --
>> --Sean
>> http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
>> 'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
>> sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
>
> This has all happened before and will all happen again.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago (the new number 2)

You've always been number 2 to me, Ken.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236823 is a reply to message #236809] Thu, 26 April 2007 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 25 Apr 2007 21:03:59 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu>
wrote:

> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> writes:
>>
>> Well, to be accurate about it, Buffy stole the XF fanbase and SG stole
>> the Star Trek fanbase. ;)
>
> To be even more accurate, XF and ST gave away their fanbases.
>
>> VM made a valiant effort at stealing the Gg fanbase, but darn those
>> Lorelais, they fought her off with even dirtier tricks and cuter
>> noses.
>
> VM?

Veronica Mars, which is why I cross-posted this to
alt.tv.veronica-mars and atgg, but if this is just going to remain an
XF vs Trek vs Stargate zombie thread, I'm just going to apologize to
posters of atgg and atvm right now for crossposting. Oy!

-- Rob
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LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:36:10 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

> In article <KKKdnbtO8fqy0q3bnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "Sean Carroll" <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:QAKXh.107270$s8.74946@newsfe21.lga...
>>> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>>> "suzee" <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote
>>>> >Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>>
>>>> >>Why 12-21-2012?
>>>
>>>> >Look up Mayan Calendar....
>>>
>>>> Excuse me for not being Mayan.
>>>
>>> You're excused -- THIS time. Just don't let it happen again.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --Sean
>>> http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
>>> 'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
>>> sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
>>
>> This has all happened before and will all happen again.
>>
>> -- Ken from Chicago (the new number 2)
>
> You've always been number 2 to me, Ken.

But which Number 2?

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236825 is a reply to message #236808] Thu, 26 April 2007 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: pv+usenet

Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> writes:
> Nemesis was. :) But I like the remastered Star Trek. I know it was
> done by hacks and it isn't as good as it could be. But for all that
> it's not bad. :)

I'm shocked to say that I agree with this too. yeah, some of the effects
are cheesier than they should be, but it sure seems to me they've applied a
light touch, and in some cases (the planet they're spiraling towards in
The Naked Time, for example), the revised effects do a better job depicting
what was originally intended. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236826 is a reply to message #236797] Thu, 26 April 2007 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: pv+usenet

Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> writes:
> PV wrote:
>
>> Um, what? That makes no sense at all.
>
> That's what people used to say about 'Ulysses'.

I've read James Joyce. You, sir, are no James Joyce.
>
>> How dare someone put out better television! *
>
> 'Trendier' does not equal 'better'.

Whatever. Buh bye now, I have no time for freaks. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236827 is a reply to message #236819] Thu, 26 April 2007 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Michael Bowker

Ken from Chicago wrote:
> "Sean Carroll" <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:QAKXh.107270$s8.74946@newsfe21.lga...
>> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>> "suzee" <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote
>>>> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>>> > Why 12-21-2012?
>>>> Look up Mayan Calendar....
>>> Excuse me for not being Mayan.
>> You're excused -- THIS time. Just don't let it happen again.
>>
>> --
>> --Sean
>> http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
>> 'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
>> sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
>
> This has all happened before and will all happen again.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago (the new number 2)
>
>

Who is number 1? I am not a number I am a free man!
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236828 is a reply to message #236825] Thu, 26 April 2007 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Michael Bowker

PV wrote:
> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> writes:
>> Nemesis was. :) But I like the remastered Star Trek. I know it was
>> done by hacks and it isn't as good as it could be. But for all that
>> it's not bad. :)
>
> I'm shocked to say that I agree with this too. yeah, some of the effects
> are cheesier than they should be, but it sure seems to me they've applied a
> light touch, and in some cases (the planet they're spiraling towards in
> The Naked Time, for example), the revised effects do a better job depicting
> what was originally intended. *

Welcome to the body. Trust in Landru. :)
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236829 is a reply to message #236828] Thu, 26 April 2007 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <1331pf4n35knse7@corp.supernews.com>,
Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:

> PV wrote:
>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> writes:
>>> Nemesis was. :) But I like the remastered Star Trek. I know it was
>>> done by hacks and it isn't as good as it could be. But for all that
>>> it's not bad. :)
>>
>> I'm shocked to say that I agree with this too. yeah, some of the effects
>> are cheesier than they should be, but it sure seems to me they've applied a
>> light touch, and in some cases (the planet they're spiraling towards in
>> The Naked Time, for example), the revised effects do a better job depicting
>> what was originally intended. *
>
> Welcome to the body. Trust in Landru. :)

More like Gorgon the friendly angel.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236830 is a reply to message #236829] Thu, 26 April 2007 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Michael Bowker

Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <1331pf4n35knse7@corp.supernews.com>,
> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>
>> PV wrote:
>>> Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> writes:
>>>> Nemesis was. :) But I like the remastered Star Trek. I know it was
>>>> done by hacks and it isn't as good as it could be. But for all that
>>>> it's not bad. :)
>>> I'm shocked to say that I agree with this too. yeah, some of the effects
>>> are cheesier than they should be, but it sure seems to me they've applied a
>>> light touch, and in some cases (the planet they're spiraling towards in
>>> The Naked Time, for example), the revised effects do a better job depicting
>>> what was originally intended. *
>> Welcome to the body. Trust in Landru. :)
>
> More like Gorgon the friendly angel.

Shh! :) That would be telling.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236832 is a reply to message #236824] Thu, 26 April 2007 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Rob Jensen" <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:36:10 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <KKKdnbtO8fqy0q3bnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@comcast.com>,
>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Sean Carroll" <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:QAKXh.107270$s8.74946@newsfe21.lga...
>>>> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>>> > "suzee" <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote
>>>> >>Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>Why 12-21-2012?
>>>>
>>>> >>Look up Mayan Calendar....
>>>>
>>>> > Excuse me for not being Mayan.
>>>>
>>>> You're excused -- THIS time. Just don't let it happen again.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --Sean
>>>> http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
>>>> 'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual
>>>> rough
>>>> sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
>>>
>>> This has all happened before and will all happen again.
>>>
>>> -- Ken from Chicago (the new number 2)
>>
>> You've always been number 2 to me, Ken.
>
> But which Number 2?
>
> -- Rob

The NEW one. I said so. It's right there, in print.

-- Ken from Chicago
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236833 is a reply to message #236818] Thu, 26 April 2007 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Mark Nobles

Ken from Chicago <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:

> "Mark Nobles" <cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com> wrote
>> Ken from Chicago <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> "Mark Nobles" <cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com> wrote
>>>> Lukan <misfitskibssfvan@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > > Either Mulder or CSM mentioned this date as the day the world ends,
>>>> > > or
>>>> > > the invasion begins, or some such thing. At any rate, this date is
>>>> > > part
>>>> > > of the overarching X-Files mythology.
>>>> >
>>>> > The same mythology that got so obtuse and open ended that it drove
>>>> > viewers from the show in packs.
>>>>
>>>> But not until Chris Carter admitted he could never resolve anything and
>>>> killed off most of the conspirators.
>>>>
>>>> But I'm thinking there is a way to tie the two mythologies together
>>>> which would bring some semblance of meaning to the X-Files myth by
>>>> joining it with the Stargate myth - at least as the myth was in the
>>>> distant past when the snake-like goa'uld were posing as gods, which
>>>> allows a little inconsistency with the current Stargate myth.
>>>>
>>>> Quetzalcoatl was a feathered snake, not completely unlike Apophis,
>>>> although he was a god of fertility and creation, while Apophis was a
>>>> god of chaos and destruction. Both are part of societies that built
>>>> monumental pyramids as landing sites for space ships. They both have
>>>> the mysterious gray aliens with very advanced technology. Earth plays
>>>> an unbelievably important part in interplanetary affairs, being the
>>>> source of all the slaves the Goa'uld carried to colonies all over the
>>>> galaxy, and the destination of the X-Files colonists.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I have no way to make sense of the two kinds of clones and the
>>>> hybrids, the bees, the infection(s?), the shape-shipping aliens, the
>>>> aliens with their eyes sewed shut, the Navajo language and the crashed
>>>> UFO with the text of the bible carved in its skin in Navajo. But wasn't
>>>> there a goa'uld working on something similar to the hybrids and
>>>> infection who infected the entire planet and made them forget
>>>> everything?
>>>>
>>>> The main thing, get Fox Mulder together with Daniel Jackson and let
>>>> them compare notes. Watch Dr. Scully and Dr. Carter get together and
>>>> make fun of the conspiracies. Best of all, get AD Skinner in a meeting
>>>> with Col. Caldwell.
>>>>
>>>> I'm telling you, these go together like chocolate and peanut butter.
>>>
>>> This has all happened before and will all happen again.
>>
>> So you're saying the Cylons will arrive that day?
>
> Wrong tense.

I mean the "happen again", not the "happened before" part.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236835 is a reply to message #236832] Fri, 27 April 2007 03:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:48:36 -0500, "Ken from Chicago"
<kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> "Rob Jensen" <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:u0h133hfh9aftaslpo3gjcj8h984fucff2@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:36:10 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <KKKdnbtO8fqy0q3bnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sean Carroll" <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:QAKXh.107270$s8.74946@newsfe21.lga...
>>>> > Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>>> >> "suzee" <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote
>>>> >>>Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>>>Why 12-21-2012?
>>>> >
>>>> >>>Look up Mayan Calendar....
>>>> >
>>>> >> Excuse me for not being Mayan.
>>>> >
>>>> > You're excused -- THIS time. Just don't let it happen again.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > --Sean
>>>> > http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
>>>> > 'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual
>>>> > rough
>>>> > sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
>>>>
>>>> This has all happened before and will all happen again.
>>>>
>>>> -- Ken from Chicago (the new number 2)
>>>
>>> You've always been number 2 to me, Ken.
>>
>> But which Number 2?
>>
>> -- Rob
>
> The NEW one. I said so. It's right there, in print.

But *which* New Number 2? There are so many of them.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236836 is a reply to message #236655] Fri, 27 April 2007 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: markr1000

On Apr 22, 5:36 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
> On 22 Apr 2007 11:11:53 -0700, "marc...@earthlink.net"
>
>
>
>
>
> <marc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On Apr 22, 8:24 am, Forge <f...@allspammersshoulddie.youneedageek.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 21 Apr 2007 21:29:48 -0700, marc...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>>> Oh, Gillian, Gillian... you're just one ungrateful, one-time hottie,
>>>> aren't you? Have you ever had a real job? And by "real job", I mean
>>>> something more strenuous than spending 16 hours-a-day, nine-months-a-
>>>> year preening before fawning employers and co-workers.
>
>>> I'm totally sure you could stand up to the workload of someone working on a
>>> series for a major television network. Me, I'll stick to 10-hour days
>>> supporting clueless users at the IT helpdesk. It's WAY easier work.
>
>> What "workload"? Isn't most of the reason the days are so long is that
>> the actors/actresses are waiting hours for the technicians to set up
>> each shot?
>
> On movie sets, yes, on TV sets, no. While set-ups take a long time
> (*primarily* due to lighting/cinematography) on TV sets, the TV shows
> actually film about 6 to 8 pages of script per day while a movie may
> film just a *fragment* of one page in one day. Doesn't mean that
> there aren't "hurry up and wait" periods on the sets of TV shows, but
> the vast majority of time that an actor spends off-camera but on the
> set is taken up with blocking rehearsals, line rehearsals
> (speed-thrus, memorizing lines by oneself, etc.), interviews with
> magazines, photo shoots for those magazines and/or for show publicity,
> dashing off to do an interview at a local radio or TV station (KTLA,
> the local CW affiliate) or one of the talk shows, etc.
>
> The workload on TV shows is far heavier than you (and a lot of people)
> give it credit.

On the B5 DVDs, the actors mention more than once that the loved how
they never had to work past 8 pm (and I think rarely past 6), due to
work by JMS and the producers to streamline the whole process. None
of them ever had that pleasant an experience on any other series, even
as a guest, and Boxleitner was undoubtably thinking about Scarecrow.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236837 is a reply to message #236836] Fri, 27 April 2007 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 27 Apr 2007 11:38:04 -0700, markr1000@earthlink.net wrote:

> On Apr 22, 5:36 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On 22 Apr 2007 11:11:53 -0700, "marc...@earthlink.net"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <marc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> On Apr 22, 8:24 am, Forge <f...@allspammersshoulddie.youneedageek.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 21 Apr 2007 21:29:48 -0700, marc...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>>>> > Oh, Gillian, Gillian... you're just one ungrateful, one-time hottie,
>>>> > aren't you? Have you ever had a real job? And by "real job", I mean
>>>> > something more strenuous than spending 16 hours-a-day, nine-months-a-
>>>> > year preening before fawning employers and co-workers.
>>
>>>> I'm totally sure you could stand up to the workload of someone working on a
>>>> series for a major television network. Me, I'll stick to 10-hour days
>>>> supporting clueless users at the IT helpdesk. It's WAY easier work.
>>
>>> What "workload"? Isn't most of the reason the days are so long is that
>>> the actors/actresses are waiting hours for the technicians to set up
>>> each shot?
>>
>> On movie sets, yes, on TV sets, no. While set-ups take a long time
>> (*primarily* due to lighting/cinematography) on TV sets, the TV shows
>> actually film about 6 to 8 pages of script per day while a movie may
>> film just a *fragment* of one page in one day. Doesn't mean that
>> there aren't "hurry up and wait" periods on the sets of TV shows, but
>> the vast majority of time that an actor spends off-camera but on the
>> set is taken up with blocking rehearsals, line rehearsals
>> (speed-thrus, memorizing lines by oneself, etc.), interviews with
>> magazines, photo shoots for those magazines and/or for show publicity,
>> dashing off to do an interview at a local radio or TV station (KTLA,
>> the local CW affiliate) or one of the talk shows, etc.
>>
>> The workload on TV shows is far heavier than you (and a lot of people)
>> give it credit.
>
> On the B5 DVDs, the actors mention more than once that the loved how
> they never had to work past 8 pm (and I think rarely past 6), due to
> work by JMS and the producers to streamline the whole process. None
> of them ever had that pleasant an experience on any other series, even
> as a guest, and Boxleitner was undoubtably thinking about Scarecrow.

And Mark Harmon's at the breaking point with Don Bellisario over that
same negative extreme regarding the working conditions on NCIS right
now, too. 16 hour work days are just ridonkulous under any
circumstances in showbiz -- even with an industry-mandatory 12 hour
timespan between the end of one call and the beginning of the next,
constant 16 hour days will just wreck a person in a matter of months.
I'm betting Sasha Alexander is now feeling vindicated about her choice
to leave the show after season 2.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236838 is a reply to message #236835] Fri, 27 April 2007 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Mark Nobles

Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:48:36 -0500, "Ken from Chicago"
> <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Rob Jensen" <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:u0h133hfh9aftaslpo3gjcj8h984fucff2@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:36:10 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <KKKdnbtO8fqy0q3bnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > "Sean Carroll" <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> > news:QAKXh.107270$s8.74946@newsfe21.lga...
>>>> > > Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>>> > >> "suzee" <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote
>>>> > >>>Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>>>Why 12-21-2012?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>>Look up Mayan Calendar....
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> Excuse me for not being Mayan.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > You're excused -- THIS time. Just don't let it happen again.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > --Sean
>>>> > > http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
>>>> > > 'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual
>>>> > > rough
>>>> > > sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
>>>> >
>>>> > This has all happened before and will all happen again.
>>>> >
>>>> > -- Ken from Chicago (the new number 2)
>>>>
>>>> You've always been number 2 to me, Ken.
>>>
>>> But which Number 2?
>>>
>>> -- Rob
>>
>> The NEW one. I said so. It's right there, in print.
>
> But *which* New Number 2? There are so many of them.

But only one at any given time. (Somewhere, there must be an island of
Lost Number Twos.)
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236839 is a reply to message #236838] Sat, 28 April 2007 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:50:22 -0500, Mark Nobles
<cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com> wrote:

> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:48:36 -0500, "Ken from Chicago"
>> <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Rob Jensen" <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u0h133hfh9aftaslpo3gjcj8h984fucff2@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:36:10 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >In article <KKKdnbtO8fqy0q3bnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>>> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> "Sean Carroll" <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:QAKXh.107270$s8.74946@newsfe21.lga...
>>>> >> > Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>>> >> >> "suzee" <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote
>>>> >> >>>Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >>>>Why 12-21-2012?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >>>Look up Mayan Calendar....
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Excuse me for not being Mayan.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > You're excused -- THIS time. Just don't let it happen again.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> > --Sean
>>>> >> > http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
>>>> >> > 'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual
>>>> >> > rough
>>>> >> > sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This has all happened before and will all happen again.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -- Ken from Chicago (the new number 2)
>>>> >
>>>> >You've always been number 2 to me, Ken.
>>>>
>>>> But which Number 2?
>>>>
>>>> -- Rob
>>>
>>> The NEW one. I said so. It's right there, in print.
>>
>> But *which* New Number 2? There are so many of them.
>
> But only one at any given time. (Somewhere, there must be an island of
> Lost Number Twos.)

I think they're on ABC Wednesday nights at 10pm Eastern & Pacific/9pm
Central & Mountain time.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:05:02 -0500, Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com>
wrote:

> I'm betting Sasha Alexander is now feeling vindicated about her choice
> to leave the show after season 2.

Is that the reason she left?


--

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in very small plots - about 6' by 3'."
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Such delete downloaded pages.
Such download twice regardless.
Such switch off the text only option.
Such demand to be the default browser.
Such yield control not even to power down.

Tony Lance
judemarie@bigberthathing.co.uk


07 May 1998 19:29:10
Message
From: Tony Lance
Subject: Educating Rita
To: FC Mods FC Queries
Educating Rita

This film portrays a dominant spouse and a long-suffering
student, to the extent upto and including divorce,
book-burning and forced pregnancy.

There was zero privacy. Any attempt to re-register or
change the password would not work, because the secret
could not be kept.

Every posting by the spouse is a violation of OU rules
and the students education, causing real pain. Vetting
by one moderator or by several using a non-public Rita
conf. would not work, because the spouse would use the
students name, with all the further alienation that
would cause.

A new policy needs to be adopted. The last resort
punishment measure, needs to be the first resort
measure on compassionate grounds; that of making the
student read-only on FC. The student would thank you
for it, but not publically.

It would need to be agreed between ACS and OUSA, which
is what they are there for.

Be kind,
Tony Lance
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236842 is a reply to message #236840] Sun, 29 April 2007 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:13:44 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Citizen Bob) wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:05:02 -0500, Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm betting Sasha Alexander is now feeling vindicated about her choice
>> to leave the show after season 2.
>
> Is that the reason she left?

Yes.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236843 is a reply to message #236842] Mon, 30 April 2007 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:27:34 -0500, Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com>
wrote:

>>> I'm betting Sasha Alexander is now feeling vindicated about her choice
>>> to leave the show after season 2.

>> Is that the reason she left?

> Yes.

Shame, she was a good foil for Tony.

However, I like her replacement a bit more. For one thing, she has
more credibility.


--

"Perhaps the meek shall inherit the Earth, but they'll do it
in very small plots - about 6' by 3'."
-- Robert A. Heinlein
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236844 is a reply to message #236524] Mon, 30 April 2007 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Tony Lance

Big Bertha Thing particle
Cosmic Ray Series
Possible Real World System Constructs
http://web.onetel.com/~tonylance/structur.html
7K Web Page
Astrophysics net ring Access site
Newsgroup Reviews including sci.med.nutrition

Outlandish Particle Periodic Table in Structure Order.

From Pastures Software Package Documentation.
(Particle Structure Results Program, in Fortran 77.)
Sub-atomic Mesons, Baryons and Leptons Classification System.
(C) Copyright Tony Lance 1997
Distribute complete and free of charge to comply.


Big Bertha Thing repairs

If it is not broken, do not fix it.
Some parts of the project may need repairing.
If you cannot fix it, with a good suggestion,
then do not take it apart, in the first place,
with a bad one.

Tony Lance
judemarie@bigberthathing.co.uk


10 December 1997 19:05:39
Message
From: Tony Lance
Subject: Big Bertha Thing jeremiah
To: OUSA Classical Particle
A film Jeremiah Johnson, not necessarily true.

A mountain man asked him, whether he was any good at skinning
bears. He said that he could skin them, faster than the mountain
man could catch them.

So running down the mountain, with a bear in hot pursuit. His
friend runs in the front door of the cabin and jumps out the
back window.

Quote
"You skin that one and I'll go catch me another one!"
Unquote.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236845 is a reply to message #236843] Mon, 30 April 2007 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:12:51 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Citizen Bob) wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:27:34 -0500, Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>> I'm betting Sasha Alexander is now feeling vindicated about her choice
>>>> to leave the show after season 2.
>
>>> Is that the reason she left?
>
>> Yes.
>
> Shame, she was a good foil for Tony.
>
> However, I like her replacement a bit more. For one thing, she has
> more credibility.

Funny, I think that Ziva has *less* credibility. No chemistry with
the rest of the cast, the malapropisms are getting tiring and the
concept of someone of IIRC Chilean nationality playing an Israeli is
just flat-out miscasting.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236846 is a reply to message #236845] Mon, 30 April 2007 14:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:15:09 -0500, Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com>
wrote:

> Funny, I think that Ziva has *less* credibility. No chemistry with
> the rest of the cast,

HUH? She has everyone of them eating out of her hand.

> the malapropisms are getting tiring

That's part of the show.

> and the concept of someone of IIRC Chilean nationality playing an Israeli is
> just flat-out miscasting.

There are no Jews in Chile?


--

"Perhaps the meek shall inherit the Earth, but they'll do it
in very small plots - about 6' by 3'."
-- Robert A. Heinlein
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236848 is a reply to message #236846] Tue, 01 May 2007 01:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:18:48 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Citizen Bob) wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:15:09 -0500, Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Funny, I think that Ziva has *less* credibility. No chemistry with
>> the rest of the cast,
>
> HUH? She has everyone of them eating out of her hand.
>
>> the malapropisms are getting tiring
>
> That's part of the show.
>
>> and the concept of someone of IIRC Chilean nationality playing an Israeli is
>> just flat-out miscasting.
>
> There are no Jews in Chile?

Well, considering that Ziva is Israeli, that's totally beside the
point. CdP doesn't look ethnically anything but Latina to me. Not
necessarily a bad thing in and of itself, she looks like Salma Hayek's
younger, less sun-loving sister to me. But she doesn't look or sound
like anyone who even remotely has any ties to Israel, much less being
a native and agent on-loan to the NCIS from Mossad.

A Latina trying to speak English with an Israeli accent -- she sounds
like Kevin Costner trying to do an English accent in Robin Hood:
Prince of Thieves (and yes, I do think she's *that* bad with the
accent.)

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236849 is a reply to message #236848] Tue, 01 May 2007 08:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 01 May 2007 00:28:47 -0500, Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com>
wrote:

> Well, considering that Ziva is Israeli, that's totally beside the
> point. CdP doesn't look ethnically anything but Latina to me. Not
> necessarily a bad thing in and of itself, she looks like Salma Hayek's
> younger, less sun-loving sister to me. But she doesn't look or sound
> like anyone who even remotely has any ties to Israel, much less being
> a native and agent on-loan to the NCIS from Mossad.

> A Latina trying to speak English with an Israeli accent -- she sounds
> like Kevin Costner trying to do an English accent in Robin Hood:
> Prince of Thieves (and yes, I do think she's *that* bad with the
> accent.)

Yeah, but Sasha Alexander was a govt agent, who once "took care" of
the President???

LOL.


--

"Perhaps the meek shall inherit the Earth, but they'll do it
in very small plots - about 6' by 3'."
-- Robert A. Heinlein
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236850 is a reply to message #236842] Tue, 01 May 2007 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:27:34 -0500, Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com>
wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:13:44 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Citizen Bob) wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:05:02 -0500, Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm betting Sasha Alexander is now feeling vindicated about her choice
>>> to leave the show after season 2.
>>
>> Is that the reason she left?
>
> Yes.

It wasn't the only reason, but it played a BIG part. She also said
that before "NCIS" she had only had short term contracts. So she might
work on a show or movie for as much as three months and then have a
break before the next job. With "NCIS" she was on the job for nine
months at a time. That might been okay with her but that she was also
having those 16 hour days with all of the other issues (late scripts,
never knowing when they were on camera .)
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