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Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236726 is a reply to message #236704] Tue, 24 April 2007 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken from Chicago is currently offline  Ken from Chicago
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"Rob Jensen" <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in message
news:84vp23hs2ssuei870hisru4tts8m02rvbu@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 05:43:38 -0500, "Ken from Chicago"
> <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Rob Jensen" <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:om3o23pfddsbs904ilnciiu2npob7q1sge@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:34:47 -0500, "Ken from Chicago"
>>> <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Asher_N" <compguy666@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns991AA9326F88Acompguy666hotmailcom@66.250.146.185...
>>>> > "Dano" <janeanddano@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> > news:ntqdnZ3mQvyoLLbbnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> > Some people have no clue that there is substantial acting aailable
>>>> > outside a TV series. How often do you hear prople ask 'where is
>>>> > so-and-
>>>> > so', while the actor has been doing stage non-stop.
>>>> >
>>>> > Stewart was lucky to get that established before Trek. Shatner had a
>>>> > short but distinguished career in Canada, mostly doing Shakespeare,
>>>> > before Trek.
>>>>
>>>> The stage is witness protection for Hollywood.
>>>
>>> The stage is vacation for Hollywood.
>>
>> Are you joking? You only have to do ONE movie at a time. You have to do
>> the
>> same play SEVERAL times, sometimes several times a day, LIVE, before an
>> audience.
>
> That woosh sound you're hearing is you talking waaaaay past both the
> aphorism you offered in your previous post and the aphorisms I
> responded with. Take a step back, see the metaphors and stop taking
> yourself and others so literally.
>
> -- Rob

I fail to see what this has to do with the fan club for XENA: WARRIOR
PRINCESS.

And how DARE you say I don't get the metaphor. I challenge you, sir, to
Meta-Free-Phor-All: Shall I Nail You To A Summer's Day--The Sequel. Then
we'll who knows metaphors.

-- Ken from Chicago (who now has to get permission from Stephen Colbert)
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236727 is a reply to message #236725] Tue, 24 April 2007 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <g46dnf4tO9b2ULDbnZ2dnUVZ_oernZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:

> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-06C030.18283023042007@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
>> In article <E6WdnVGshaLrprDbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Joetheone" <joetheone@dontchabespamminme.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8C4Xh.3087$Ut6.1246@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> <snip>
>
>>>> > How DARE you overlook DUNE?!!!?!!
>>>> >
>>>> > -- Ken from Chicago
>>>> >
>>>> There's a whole bunch of "accomplished actors" that would hope everyone
>>>> overlooked that one.
>>>> Hard to think of more wasted talent in any movie before or since.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> STEALTH
>>>
>>> SUPERMAN RETURNS
>> What talent was involved here?
>
> Bryan Singer, Frank Langella, Eva Marie Saint, Kal Penn.

From that list? I'll give you a totally wasted Langella.
>
>>> BATMAN RETURNS
>>>
>>> BATMAN FOREVER
>>>
>>> BATMAN & ROBIN
>>>
>>> CATWOMAN
>>>
>>> AEON FLUX
>>>
>>> ELEKTRA
>>>
>>> CHILL FACTOR
>> The one with Callisto?
>
> What?

There's more than one movie called CHILL FACTOR. One of them stars
Hudson Leick, CALLISTO from Xena/Hercules.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236728 is a reply to message #236719] Tue, 24 April 2007 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: It's the Principle!

Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:

> On 24 Apr 2007 00:36:52 GMT, "It's the Principle!"
> <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> Mark Nobles <cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>>
>>> It's the Principle! <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The fact remains she's just not good enough for feature work.
>>>> She barely passed for TV.
>>>
>>> I believe her Emmy, Golden Globe, two SAG awards, and
>>> nominations for British awards say different.
>>>
>>
>> How many of those were for feature work?
>
> Well, off the top of my head, the Emmy was for The X-Files. I'm
> so totally not interested in looking up the rest at imdb right
> now.
>

Emmy is for television. If you think about it, X-Files won awards for
popularity, not necessarily skill.


--
Brandy Alexandre

The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he
never would be found out. -- Thomas Babington Macaulay
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236729 is a reply to message #236722] Tue, 24 April 2007 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: It's the Principle!

Mark Nobles <cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:

> It's the Principle! <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> Mark Nobles <cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>>
>>> It's the Principle! <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The fact remains she's just not good enough for feature work.
>>>> She barely passed for TV.
>>>
>>> I believe her Emmy, Golden Globe, two SAG awards, and
>>> nominations for British awards say different.
>>>
>>
>> How many of those were for feature work?
>
> The British nominations were for features. But my real point was
> that the awards, especially the SAG awards, indicate she did
> better than "barely passed" as a TV actor.
>

Oh, and SAG and GG has never been know for pandering to popularity over
merit. :::rolling eyes:::

--
Brandy Alexandre

The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he
never would be found out. -- Thomas Babington Macaulay
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236770 is a reply to message #236710] Tue, 24 April 2007 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Victor Velazquez

"Mark Nobles" <cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:230420071647120678%cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com...
> Victor Velazquez <victhrill@notnow.com> wrote:
>
>> I would bring a book. Getting paid to read books of my choosing?
>> Heaven!
>
> But you don't get to read books of your own choosing. You have to spend
> a lot of time reading the script you're working on enough times you can
> recite it. And then do it once more, with feeling.

Well then it's no wonder I'm not a celebrity!
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236771 is a reply to message #236717] Tue, 24 April 2007 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Hugo Nebula

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:52:34 -0700, a particular chimpanzee, John
Schilling <schillin@spock.usc.edu> randomly hit the keyboard and
produced:

> Patrick Stewart, being an actor, probably considers his twenty years with
> the Royal Shakespeare Company to be a somewhat greater accomplishment.

It was more likely this:
http://www.hud.ac.uk/uni/tv_ad_2005/index.html
--
Hugo Nebula
"If no-one on the internet wants a piece of this,
just how far from the pack have you strayed?"
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236772 is a reply to message #236728] Tue, 24 April 2007 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 24 Apr 2007 12:00:54 GMT, "It's the Principle!"
<brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:

> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>
>> On 24 Apr 2007 00:36:52 GMT, "It's the Principle!"
>> <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mark Nobles <cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>>>
>>>> It's the Principle! <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > The fact remains she's just not good enough for feature work.
>>>> > She barely passed for TV.
>>>>
>>>> I believe her Emmy, Golden Globe, two SAG awards, and
>>>> nominations for British awards say different.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How many of those were for feature work?
>>
>> Well, off the top of my head, the Emmy was for The X-Files. I'm
>> so totally not interested in looking up the rest at imdb right
>> now.
>>
>
> Emmy is for television. If you think about it, X-Files won awards for
> popularity, not necessarily skill.

One person's idea of popularity is another person's idea of skill --
there's no way to objectively define it.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236773 is a reply to message #236723] Tue, 24 April 2007 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 03:09:13 -0500, Mark Nobles
<cmn-nospam@houston.rr.com> wrote:

> Lukan <misfitskibssfvan@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>> Either Mulder or CSM mentioned this date as the day the world ends, or
>>> the invasion begins, or some such thing. At any rate, this date is part
>>> of the overarching X-Files mythology.
>>
>> The same mythology that got so obtuse and open ended that it drove
>> viewers from the show in packs.
>
> But not until Chris Carter admitted he could never resolve anything and
> killed off most of the conspirators.
>
> But I'm thinking there is a way to tie the two mythologies together
> which would bring some semblance of meaning to the X-Files myth by
> joining it with the Stargate myth - at least as the myth was in the
> distant past when the snake-like goa'uld were posing as gods, which
> allows a little inconsistency with the current Stargate myth.
>
> Quetzalcoatl was a feathered snake, not completely unlike Apophis,
> although he was a god of fertility and creation, while Apophis was a
> god of chaos and destruction. Both are part of societies that built
> monumental pyramids as landing sites for space ships. They both have
> the mysterious gray aliens with very advanced technology. Earth plays
> an unbelievably important part in interplanetary affairs, being the
> source of all the slaves the Goa'uld carried to colonies all over the
> galaxy, and the destination of the X-Files colonists.
>
> Ok, I have no way to make sense of the two kinds of clones and the
> hybrids, the bees, the infection(s?), the shape-shipping aliens, the
> aliens with their eyes sewed shut, the Navajo language and the crashed
> UFO with the text of the bible carved in its skin in Navajo. But wasn't
> there a goa'uld working on something similar to the hybrids and
> infection who infected the entire planet and made them forget
> everything?
>
> The main thing, get Fox Mulder together with Daniel Jackson and let
> them compare notes. Watch Dr. Scully and Dr. Carter get together and
> make fun of the conspiracies. Best of all, get AD Skinner in a meeting
> with Col. Caldwell.
>
> I'm telling you, these go together like chocolate and peanut butter.

More like chocolate and kerosene.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236774 is a reply to message #236772] Tue, 24 April 2007 20:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: It's the Principle!

Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:

>> Emmy is for television. If you think about it, X-Files won awards
>> for popularity, not necessarily skill.
>
> One person's idea of popularity is another person's idea of skill
> -- there's no way to objectively define it.

Sure there is. You look at the averages and notice that historically
it's about popularity when the "winners" don't show up on the radar for
anything else. X-Files was extraordinarily popular because of the
genre. Since the overwhelming majority of her awards are for X-Files
in spite of a fairly diverse resume, I say my observation is more than
objective; it's fact.

--
Brandy Alexandre

The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he
never would be found out. -- Thomas Babington Macaulay
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236775 is a reply to message #236643] Tue, 24 April 2007 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <jHQWh.8184$2Q1.6037@newsfe16.lga>,
Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> said:

> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>
>> It amazes me when actors testify in front of Congress about stuff
>> they know less about that most folk.
>
> Why? Half the people who testify in front of Congress don't really
> know what the fuck they're talking about.

And the other half do and are desperately trying to keep Congress
from finding out about it. Or so it sometimes seems. (What's that?
Gonzales hearings? Now why on *earth* would you think that I was
thinking about that?)

--
William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com>
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236776 is a reply to message #236527] Tue, 24 April 2007 21:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <Xns9919F0807290C8675309@64.209.0.82>,
"It's the Principle!" <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> said:

> Okay, see you flipping at McD. You sound like AJ. It's an
> offense to your sensibilities and artiste-ry to perform for the
> masses, but you keep going on auditions and begging for work.
> Must have discovered you aren't much go for anything else, as if
> you were good for acting in the first place. I only watched for
> DD.

Who's AJ?

--
William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com>
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236777 is a reply to message #236776] Tue, 24 April 2007 21:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: It's the Principle!

William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:

> In article <Xns9919F0807290C8675309@64.209.0.82>,
> "It's the Principle!" <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> said:
>
>> Okay, see you flipping at McD. You sound like AJ. It's an
>> offense to your sensibilities and artiste-ry to perform for the
>> masses, but you keep going on auditions and begging for work.
>> Must have discovered you aren't much go for anything else, as if
>> you were good for acting in the first place. I only watched for
>> DD.
>
> Who's AJ?
>

Angelina Jolie

--
Brandy Alexandre

The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he
never would be found out. -- Thomas Babington Macaulay
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236778 is a reply to message #236774] Wed, 25 April 2007 02:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 25 Apr 2007 00:16:11 GMT, "It's the Principle!"
<brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:

> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>
>>> Emmy is for television. If you think about it, X-Files won awards
>>> for popularity, not necessarily skill.
>>
>> One person's idea of popularity is another person's idea of skill
>> -- there's no way to objectively define it.
>
> Sure there is. You look at the averages and notice that historically
> it's about popularity when the "winners" don't show up on the radar for
> anything else. X-Files was extraordinarily popular because of the
> genre. Since the overwhelming majority of her awards are for X-Files
> in spite of a fairly diverse resume, I say my observation is more than
> objective; it's fact.

Shows how little you know about showbiz. You're arguing a variation
of the non-existent "Seinfeld Curse." The reason why it doesn't exist
is the same reason why most of GA's awards are for The X-Files --
because an actor has hit the lottery when they are a lead on a
hit/classic/legendary show. In an industry in which you have to go,
on average, to 40 auditions *just to get cast in a part* (nevermind
how big the part may or may not be -- just to get *any* size part),
the odds against any given actor getting a starring role on a TV
series are more like 1 in a million at *best.* Getting a starring
role in more than one hit/legendary/classic series is more like 1 in
10 million at best and getting a starring role in 3 or more
hit/legendary/classic series is more like 1 in a billion. An actor
not having more than one hit series under his/her belt doesn't prove
anything regarding popularity *or* ability. The only thing it proves
is that the actor beat the odds.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236779 is a reply to message #236778] Wed, 25 April 2007 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: It's the Principle!

Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:

> On 25 Apr 2007 00:16:11 GMT, "It's the Principle!"
> <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>>
>>>> Emmy is for television. If you think about it, X-Files won
>>>> awards for popularity, not necessarily skill.
>>>
>>> One person's idea of popularity is another person's idea of
>>> skill -- there's no way to objectively define it.
>>
>> Sure there is. You look at the averages and notice that
>> historically it's about popularity when the "winners" don't show
>> up on the radar for anything else. X-Files was extraordinarily
>> popular because of the genre. Since the overwhelming majority of
>> her awards are for X-Files in spite of a fairly diverse resume, I
>> say my observation is more than objective; it's fact.
>
> Shows how little you know about showbiz. You're arguing a
> variation of the non-existent "Seinfeld Curse." The reason why it
> doesn't exist is the same reason why most of GA's awards are for
> The X-Files -- because an actor has hit the lottery when they are
> a lead on a hit/classic/legendary show. In an industry in which
> you have to go, on average, to 40 auditions *just to get cast in a
> part* (nevermind how big the part may or may not be -- just to get
> *any* size part), the odds against any given actor getting a
> starring role on a TV series are more like 1 in a million at
> *best.* Getting a starring role in more than one
> hit/legendary/classic series is more like 1 in 10 million at best
> and getting a starring role in 3 or more hit/legendary/classic
> series is more like 1 in a billion. An actor not having more than
> one hit series under his/her belt doesn't prove anything regarding
> popularity *or* ability. The only thing it proves is that the
> actor beat the odds.
>
> -- Rob
> --
> LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one
> again. It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it
> didn't work and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing
> all my shortcomings when all I really need to be doing is vowing
> to never, ever make a plan ever again, which I'm doing now, having
> once again been the innocent victim of my own stupid plans. God,
> I need some coffee.
>

The argument was whether GA is a good actor based on the fact she's
won so many awards. When "all" the awards are for X-Files, I'm
simply saying it proves nothing. I've never heard her much praised
for anything else she's done since then. I'm not saying she doesn't
have her fans, just that by and large she's a one-note performer and
the majority agrees. Seinfeld or not, she wasn't even that good in
XF.

Get over it Rob, this is all opinion. You can have a different one
if you want to.

--
Brandy Alexandre

The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew
he never would be found out. -- Thomas Babington Macaulay
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236781 is a reply to message #236688] Wed, 25 April 2007 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Sean Carroll

Highlandish wrote:
> Quoth The Raven; Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com>
>> Highlandish wrote:
>>> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> in
>>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:

>>>> >And sex. Let's not forget she was screwing the help.

>>>> I am *not* the help.

>>> no, just delusional

>> How did you know that??

> I deducted that you believed you were the fuckee, therefore deluded! :)

Hmm ... nah, I don't buy it. You're one of the people who reads the
signals from my implants, aren't you??

And I'll have you know not only was I the fuckee, but SHE knocked ME up!
The child is now living under an assumed name, and has absolutely NEVER
watched the movie 'Junior'.

--
--Sean
http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236782 is a reply to message #236695] Wed, 25 April 2007 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Sean Carroll

PV wrote:

> I'm not sure, but I think the 2012 date is the end of the mayan calendar
> "long count", a popular date given by moronic nutjobs as the end of the
> world. As such, it *would* be a good date for an x-files movie, if the
> x-files wasn't ALREADY long forgotten and self-destroyed. *

You know how you learned you when you were a kid that objects still
exist when out of your field of sight, just because you can't see
someone doesn't mean they can't see you, and everyone else doesn't
automatically have the same exact knowledge you do?

Just because you've forgotten something doesn't mean everyone else has.

--
--Sean
http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236783 is a reply to message #236705] Wed, 25 April 2007 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Sean Carroll

Mark Nobles wrote:

> (Azimov tied his two great mythologies together in the end. Why not The
> X-Files and Stargate?)

Maybe because they have nothing to do with each other, they were not
created by the same person, and their two universes seem almost
completely incompatible?

I'd rather go on being an X-Phile the rest of my life without having to
also get into another franchise I never much watched and don't really
have any interest in (beyond liking the original movie).

I'll also never forgive Buffy and Stargate for becoming 'hot' in the
last few years of XF and stealing the whole damn fan community away from
a show that I was still just as much into as ever, and wanted to keep
sharing a love for with all those people. I'm convinced if not for those
shows, the 'ex-Philes who disowned the last few seasons without hardly
even really watching them' phenomenon would not have been anywhere near
as pervasive. It's a lot easier to abandon an old flame when you've got
a hot new fuck-buddy to bury yourself in.

--
--Sean
http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236784 is a reply to message #236711] Wed, 25 April 2007 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Sean Carroll

Ken from Chicago wrote:
> "Joetheone" <joetheone@dontchabespamminme.com> wrote

>> Hard to think of more wasted talent in any movie before or since.

> STEALTH
> SUPERMAN RETURNS
> BATMAN RETURNS
> BATMAN FOREVER
> BATMAN & ROBIN
> CATWOMAN

You're not exactly a Batman fan, are you?

Neither am I. Which is why I never bothered to WATCH any of those
movies. I rarely watch movies I know I'm not going to like. You should
try it.

> AEON FLUX
> ELEKTRA
> CHILL FACTOR
> KANGAROO JACK
> LOST IN SPACE ('98)
> BLUE BROTHERS 2000 ('98)
> THE AVENGERS ('98)
> GODZILLA ('98)
> SUPERMAN III & IV

As far as I'm concerned, all the comic-book superhero movies might as
well not exist. I'm not interested in Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, the
X-Men, the Hulk, any of them. I might watch one of them, once in half a
decade, when I'm really bored, have absolutely nothing better to do, and
am probably stoned off my ass. That's about it. I just don't get the
whole national obsession with these things.

While we're on the subject of wasted talent in movies, I saw
'Armageddon' for the first time last week ...

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Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236785 is a reply to message #236712] Wed, 25 April 2007 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Sean Carroll

Ken from Chicago wrote:
> "suzee" <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote
>> Ken from Chicago wrote:

>>> Why 12-21-2012?

>> Look up Mayan Calendar....

> Excuse me for not being Mayan.

You're excused -- THIS time. Just don't let it happen again.

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Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236786 is a reply to message #236779] Wed, 25 April 2007 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: af250

"It's the Principle!" (brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com) writes:
[...]
>
> The argument was whether GA is a good actor based on the fact she's
> won so many awards. When "all" the awards are for X-Files, I'm
> simply saying it proves nothing. I've never heard her much praised
> for anything else she's done since then. [...]

Probably because you haven't looked. Google is your friend. Start with
_Bleak House_.

--John Park
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Originally posted by: Sean Carroll

Lukan wrote:

>> Either Mulder or CSM mentioned this date as the day the world ends, or
>> the invasion begins, or some such thing. At any rate, this date is part
>> of the overarching X-Files mythology.

> The same mythology that got so obtuse and open ended that it drove
> viewers from the show in packs.

Yes, if by 'viewers' you mean 'undevoted day-trippers who didn't start
watching until halfway through the series, never really understood the
show's heart to begin with, and only got into it because it was on all
the magazine covers and was the "hip" thing to see for a couple of
years, then quickly moved on when it stopped being trendy, and are now
watching "24", "Grey's Anatomy", and "American Idol" five times a week
so they won't feel left out at the office water cooler'.

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'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
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Originally posted by: Sean Carroll

It's the Principle! wrote:

> If you think about it, X-Files won awards for
> popularity, not necessarily skill.

It won awards because it was a great show. It got all the magazine
covers for a couple of years, and a huge cancerous mob of fair-weather
'fans' who were only watching because they wanted to see Mulder and
Scully kiss, because it was popular. And it failed to win anywhere near
the number of awards it deserved because other, inferior shows were
always more popular, except for a brief period.

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sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
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Originally posted by: Sean Carroll

It's the Principle! wrote:

> X-Files was extraordinarily popular because of the
> genre.

Which genre is that? Sci-fi? Crime drama? Serial? Conspiracy theory?
Action? Horror? Forensic investigation? Mystery? Satire? Law enforcement
procedural? Quirky character study with intense chemistry and sly
humour? Art-film-like cinematic experimentation with a thitherto unique
approach to set design and camera work? It was all of these, and more,
and changed the face of television by putting them all together into a
unified package that was unlike anything before, and has influenced
almost everything on TV since.

XF may have been 'popular' for a while because of one or two of the many
genres it revolutionised. It was *great* because it transcended genre,
and melded the culturally resonant creative visions of many brilliant,
hard-working people into something beyond all classifications that
smashed through and outshone all the other entertainment of the time
like a bright shining meteor.

--
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http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236790 is a reply to message #236786] Wed, 25 April 2007 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Sean Carroll

John Park wrote:
> "It's the Principle!" (brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com) writes:

>> The argument was whether GA is a good actor based on the fact she's
>> won so many awards. When "all" the awards are for X-Files, I'm
>> simply saying it proves nothing. I've never heard her much praised
>> for anything else she's done since then. [...]

> Probably because you haven't looked. Google is your friend. Start with
> _Bleak House_.

And move on to 'House of Mirth'.

--
--Sean
http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236791 is a reply to message #236784] Wed, 25 April 2007 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <9AKXh.107269$s8.26391@newsfe21.lga>,
Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>> "Joetheone" <joetheone@dontchabespamminme.com> wrote
>
>>> Hard to think of more wasted talent in any movie before or since.
>
>> STEALTH
>> SUPERMAN RETURNS
>> BATMAN RETURNS
>> BATMAN FOREVER
>> BATMAN & ROBIN
>> CATWOMAN
>
> You're not exactly a Batman fan, are you?
>
> Neither am I. Which is why I never bothered to WATCH any of those
> movies. I rarely watch movies I know I'm not going to like. You should
> try it.
>
>> AEON FLUX
>> ELEKTRA
>> CHILL FACTOR
>> KANGAROO JACK
>> LOST IN SPACE ('98)
>> BLUE BROTHERS 2000 ('98)
>> THE AVENGERS ('98)
>> GODZILLA ('98)
>> SUPERMAN III & IV
>
> As far as I'm concerned, all the comic-book superhero movies might as
> well not exist. I'm not interested in Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, the
> X-Men, the Hulk, any of them. I might watch one of them, once in half a
> decade, when I'm really bored, have absolutely nothing better to do, and
> am probably stoned off my ass. That's about it. I just don't get the
> whole national obsession with these things.
>
> While we're on the subject of wasted talent in movies, I saw
> 'Armageddon' for the first time last week ...

Think how much better it would have been if they'd killed Ben Afflack.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236792 is a reply to message #236783] Wed, 25 April 2007 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: pv+usenet

Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> writes:
> I'll also never forgive Buffy and Stargate for becoming 'hot' in the
> last few years of XF and stealing the whole damn fan community away from
> a show that I was still just as much into as ever, and wanted to keep

Um, what? That makes no sense at all.

> sharing a love for with all those people. I'm convinced if not for those
> shows, the 'ex-Philes who disowned the last few seasons without hardly
> even really watching them' phenomenon would not have been anywhere near
> as pervasive.

How dare someone put out better television! *
--
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like corkscrews.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236793 is a reply to message #236792] Wed, 25 April 2007 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <132v42br6gclc61@news.supernews.com>,
pv+usenet@pobox.com (PV) wrote:

> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> writes:
>> I'll also never forgive Buffy and Stargate for becoming 'hot' in the
>> last few years of XF and stealing the whole damn fan community away from
>> a show that I was still just as much into as ever, and wanted to keep
>
> Um, what? That makes no sense at all.
>
>> sharing a love for with all those people. I'm convinced if not for those
>> shows, the 'ex-Philes who disowned the last few seasons without hardly
>> even really watching them' phenomenon would not have been anywhere near
>> as pervasive.
>
> How dare someone put out better television! *

Paramount's worked for years to make Trek worse!
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236795 is a reply to message #236793] Wed, 25 April 2007 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Michael Bowker

Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <132v42br6gclc61@news.supernews.com>,
> pv+usenet@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
>
>> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> writes:
>>> I'll also never forgive Buffy and Stargate for becoming 'hot' in the
>>> last few years of XF and stealing the whole damn fan community away from
>>> a show that I was still just as much into as ever, and wanted to keep
>> Um, what? That makes no sense at all.
>>
>>> sharing a love for with all those people. I'm convinced if not for those
>>> shows, the 'ex-Philes who disowned the last few seasons without hardly
>>> even really watching them' phenomenon would not have been anywhere near
>>> as pervasive.
>> How dare someone put out better television! *
>
> Paramount's worked for years to make Trek worse!

Yes but they have extra resources dedicated to that single purpose.
Look at Nemesis.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236796 is a reply to message #236795] Wed, 25 April 2007 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <132vb1k49t66v2b@corp.supernews.com>,
Michael Bowker <mikeb@blueneptune.com> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> In article <132v42br6gclc61@news.supernews.com>,
>> pv+usenet@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
>>
>>> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>> I'll also never forgive Buffy and Stargate for becoming 'hot' in the
>>>> last few years of XF and stealing the whole damn fan community away from
>>>> a show that I was still just as much into as ever, and wanted to keep
>>> Um, what? That makes no sense at all.
>>>
>>>> sharing a love for with all those people. I'm convinced if not for those
>>>> shows, the 'ex-Philes who disowned the last few seasons without hardly
>>>> even really watching them' phenomenon would not have been anywhere near
>>>> as pervasive.
>>> How dare someone put out better television! *
>>
>> Paramount's worked for years to make Trek worse!
>
> Yes but they have extra resources dedicated to that single purpose.
> Look at Nemesis.

They've also been spectacularly successful. Now they're even going back
and making real Trek retroactively worse!
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236797 is a reply to message #236792] Wed, 25 April 2007 16:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Sean Carroll

PV wrote:

> Um, what? That makes no sense at all.

That's what people used to say about 'Ulysses'.

> How dare someone put out better television! *

'Trendier' does not equal 'better'.

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Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236798 is a reply to message #236791] Wed, 25 April 2007 16:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Sean Carroll

Anim8rFSK wrote:
> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> While we're on the subject of wasted talent in movies, I saw
>> 'Armageddon' for the first time last week ...

> Think how much better it would have been if they'd killed Ben Afflack.

Afflack? Is he a duck now?

They also should have had Liv Tyler get naked. And no, being in her
underwear in that disturbing animal cracker scene does NOT count.

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http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:33:44 -0400, Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> While we're on the subject of wasted talent in movies, I saw
>>> 'Armageddon' for the first time last week ...
>
>> Think how much better it would have been if they'd killed Ben Afflack..
>
> Afflack? Is he a duck now?
>
> They also should have had Liv Tyler get naked. And no, being in her
> underwear in that disturbing animal cracker scene does NOT count.
>
I am afraid if Liv Tyler removes her clothes, underneith, will be
revealed, Steve Tyler!

Dude, dude, Dude, Looks like a lady :)


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Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236800 is a reply to message #236797] Wed, 25 April 2007 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:32:15 -0400, Sean Carroll
<seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote:

> PV wrote:
>
>> Um, what? That makes no sense at all.
>
> That's what people used to say about 'Ulysses'.

They weren't wrong.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236801 is a reply to message #236784] Wed, 25 April 2007 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Sean Carroll" <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9AKXh.107269$s8.26391@newsfe21.lga...
> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>> "Joetheone" <joetheone@dontchabespamminme.com> wrote
>
>>> Hard to think of more wasted talent in any movie before or since.
>
>> STEALTH
>> SUPERMAN RETURNS
>> BATMAN RETURNS
>> BATMAN FOREVER
>> BATMAN & ROBIN
>> CATWOMAN
>
> You're not exactly a Batman fan, are you?

Yes, I am--which is why I excluded BATMAN and BATMAN BEGINS.

> Neither am I. Which is why I never bothered to WATCH any of those movies.
> I rarely watch movies I know I'm not going to like. You should try it.
>
>> AEON FLUX
>> ELEKTRA
>> CHILL FACTOR
>> KANGAROO JACK
>> LOST IN SPACE ('98)
>> BLUE BROTHERS 2000 ('98)
>> THE AVENGERS ('98)
>> GODZILLA ('98)
>> SUPERMAN III & IV
>
> As far as I'm concerned, all the comic-book superhero movies might as well
> not exist. I'm not interested in Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, the X-Men,
> the Hulk, any of them. I might watch one of them, once in half a decade,
> when I'm really bored, have absolutely nothing better to do, and am
> probably stoned off my ass. That's about it. I just don't get the whole
> national obsession with these things.
>
> While we're on the subject of wasted talent in movies, I saw 'Armageddon'
> for the first time last week ...

Talk about a waste of talent.

-- Ken from Chicago
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236802 is a reply to message #236789] Wed, 25 April 2007 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: It's the Principle!

Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:

> It's the Principle! wrote:
>
>> X-Files was extraordinarily popular because of the
>> genre.
>
> Which genre is that? Sci-fi? Crime drama? Serial? Conspiracy
> theory? Action? Horror? Forensic investigation? Mystery? Satire?
> Law enforcement procedural? Quirky character study with intense
> chemistry and sly humour? Art-film-like cinematic experimentation
> with a thitherto unique
> approach to set design and camera work? It was all of these, and
> more,
> and changed the face of television by putting them all together
> into a unified package that was unlike anything before, and has
> influenced almost everything on TV since.
>
> XF may have been 'popular' for a while because of one or two of
> the many genres it revolutionised. It was *great* because it
> transcended genre, and melded the culturally resonant creative
> visions of many brilliant, hard-working people into something
> beyond all classifications that smashed through and outshone all
> the other entertainment of the time like a bright shining meteor.
>

The genre is sci-fi. Just because plotlines contain other elements,
doesn't make the genre change. It like immediate cause of death and
consequences contributing to death. It may be heart failure (sci-fi),
but that doesn't mean that heart disease, electric shock, COPD, or any
other factor changes it from being heart failure.

--
Brandy Alexandre

The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he
never would be found out. -- Thomas Babington Macaulay
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:33:44 -0400, Sean Carroll
<seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> While we're on the subject of wasted talent in movies, I saw
>>> 'Armageddon' for the first time last week ...
>
>> Think how much better it would have been if they'd killed Ben Afflack.
>
> Afflack? Is he a duck now?
>
> They also should have had Liv Tyler get naked. And no, being in her
> underwear in that disturbing animal cracker scene does NOT count.

Somebody hasn't seen the movie "Stealing Beauty."

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
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On 25 Apr 2007 23:19:27 GMT, "It's the Principle!"
<brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:

> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>
>> It's the Principle! wrote:
>>
>>> X-Files was extraordinarily popular because of the
>>> genre.
>>
>> Which genre is that? Sci-fi? Crime drama? Serial? Conspiracy
>> theory? Action? Horror? Forensic investigation? Mystery? Satire?
>> Law enforcement procedural? Quirky character study with intense
>> chemistry and sly humour? Art-film-like cinematic experimentation
>> with a thitherto unique
>> approach to set design and camera work? It was all of these, and
>> more,
>> and changed the face of television by putting them all together
>> into a unified package that was unlike anything before, and has
>> influenced almost everything on TV since.
>>
>> XF may have been 'popular' for a while because of one or two of
>> the many genres it revolutionised. It was *great* because it
>> transcended genre, and melded the culturally resonant creative
>> visions of many brilliant, hard-working people into something
>> beyond all classifications that smashed through and outshone all
>> the other entertainment of the time like a bright shining meteor.
>>
>
> The genre is sci-fi. Just because plotlines contain other elements,
> doesn't make the genre change. It like immediate cause of death and
> consequences contributing to death. It may be heart failure (sci-fi),
> but that doesn't mean that heart disease, electric shock, COPD, or any
> other factor changes it from being heart failure.

The genre is horror. Or have you forgotten "Home?"

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:30:11 -0400, Sean Carroll
<seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Mark Nobles wrote:
>
>> (Azimov tied his two great mythologies together in the end. Why not The
>> X-Files and Stargate?)
>
> Maybe because they have nothing to do with each other, they were not
> created by the same person, and their two universes seem almost
> completely incompatible?
>
> I'd rather go on being an X-Phile the rest of my life without having to
> also get into another franchise I never much watched and don't really
> have any interest in (beyond liking the original movie).
>
> I'll also never forgive Buffy and Stargate for becoming 'hot' in the
> last few years of XF and stealing the whole damn fan community away from
> a show that I was still just as much into as ever, and wanted to keep
> sharing a love for with all those people. I'm convinced if not for those
> shows, the 'ex-Philes who disowned the last few seasons without hardly
> even really watching them' phenomenon would not have been anywhere near
> as pervasive. It's a lot easier to abandon an old flame when you've got
> a hot new fuck-buddy to bury yourself in.

Well, to be accurate about it, Buffy stole the XF fanbase and SG stole
the Star Trek fanbase. ;)

VM made a valiant effort at stealing the Gg fanbase, but darn those
Lorelais, they fought her off with even dirtier tricks and cuter
noses.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236806 is a reply to message #236804] Wed, 25 April 2007 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Michael Bowker

Rob Jensen wrote:
> On 25 Apr 2007 23:19:27 GMT, "It's the Principle!"
> <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>>
>>> It's the Principle! wrote:
>>>
>>>> X-Files was extraordinarily popular because of the
>>>> genre.
>>> Which genre is that? Sci-fi? Crime drama? Serial? Conspiracy
>>> theory? Action? Horror? Forensic investigation? Mystery? Satire?
>>> Law enforcement procedural? Quirky character study with intense
>>> chemistry and sly humour? Art-film-like cinematic experimentation
>>> with a thitherto unique
>>> approach to set design and camera work? It was all of these, and
>>> more,
>>> and changed the face of television by putting them all together
>>> into a unified package that was unlike anything before, and has
>>> influenced almost everything on TV since.
>>>
>>> XF may have been 'popular' for a while because of one or two of
>>> the many genres it revolutionised. It was *great* because it
>>> transcended genre, and melded the culturally resonant creative
>>> visions of many brilliant, hard-working people into something
>>> beyond all classifications that smashed through and outshone all
>>> the other entertainment of the time like a bright shining meteor.
>>>
>> The genre is sci-fi. Just because plotlines contain other elements,
>> doesn't make the genre change. It like immediate cause of death and
>> consequences contributing to death. It may be heart failure (sci-fi),
>> but that doesn't mean that heart disease, electric shock, COPD, or any
>> other factor changes it from being heart failure.
>
> The genre is horror. Or have you forgotten "Home?"
>
> -- Rob
> --
> LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
> It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
> and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
> when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
> ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
> victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!

Well I had till now.
Re: Gillian Anderson hated 'X-Files', and probably you too [message #236807 is a reply to message #236804] Wed, 25 April 2007 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Originally posted by: It's the Principle!

Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:

> On 25 Apr 2007 23:19:27 GMT, "It's the Principle!"
> <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>>
>>> It's the Principle! wrote:
>>>
>>>> X-Files was extraordinarily popular because of the
>>>> genre.
>>>
>>> Which genre is that? Sci-fi? Crime drama? Serial? Conspiracy
>>> theory? Action? Horror? Forensic investigation? Mystery? Satire?
>>> Law enforcement procedural? Quirky character study with intense
>>> chemistry and sly humour? Art-film-like cinematic
>>> experimentation with a thitherto unique
>>> approach to set design and camera work? It was all of these,
>>> and more,
>>> and changed the face of television by putting them all together
>>> into a unified package that was unlike anything before, and has
>>> influenced almost everything on TV since.
>>>
>>> XF may have been 'popular' for a while because of one or two of
>>> the many genres it revolutionised. It was *great* because it
>>> transcended genre, and melded the culturally resonant creative
>>> visions of many brilliant, hard-working people into something
>>> beyond all classifications that smashed through and outshone all
>>> the other entertainment of the time like a bright shining
>>> meteor.
>>>
>>
>> The genre is sci-fi. Just because plotlines contain other
>> elements, doesn't make the genre change. It like immediate cause
>> of death and consequences contributing to death. It may be heart
>> failure (sci-fi), but that doesn't mean that heart disease,
>> electric shock, COPD, or any other factor changes it from being
>> heart failure.
>
> The genre is horror. Or have you forgotten "Home?"
>


Did you not understand a single word I posted in the article you
replied to with that question?


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Brandy Alexandre

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never would be found out. -- Thomas Babington Macaulay
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