| Re: Other C64/128 C compilers? [message #209928 is a reply to message #209924] |
Wed, 05 June 2013 20:49   |
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Originally posted by: <silverdr
"Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> wrote:
> "SD!" <silverdr@wfmh.org.pl.remove.it> wrote:
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>> Yup - that one burns.
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> Obviously there seems not be room for a different opinion here, even from
> someone who wrote in C for a living for 30 years. It's not meant to burn...
> it's another point of view.
The lack of floats problem is a "burning" problem of cc65 IMHO.
>> I think "we" really should move our butts and implement those, one -
>> preferably not too distant - day.
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> On which platforms?
6502 and some derivatives
> To what precision and will you implement floats only or
> doubles as well.
I don't know. Probably first things first.
> What about the math library... best have a look at Aztec C
> before you start... it might be more work than what it's worth to you.
Ok, but... Where is the fun then? ;-)
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| Re: Other C64/128 C compilers? [message #209929 is a reply to message #209928] |
Thu, 06 June 2013 08:49 |
Groepaz
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silverdr@wfmh.org.pl.remove.it wrote:
>> Obviously there seems not be room for a different opinion here, even from
>> someone who wrote in C for a living for 30 years. It's not meant to
>> burn... it's another point of view.
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> The lack of floats problem is a "burning" problem of cc65 IMHO.
not sure about that really.... floats are terribly slow on 8bit platforms, i
never really missed them at all - there is nothing you cant do without them
:)
>> To what precision and will you implement floats only or
>> doubles as well.
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> I don't know. Probably first things first.
its a funny question - because there is only one standard for floats in C =)
and doubles.... jesus. what for?
>> What about the math library... best have a look at Aztec C
>> before you start... it might be more work than what it's worth to you.
changing the libraries that come with aztec-c into something that is halfway
standard compliant and doesnt involve ugly hacks all over the place - now
that is indeed more work than it is worth =P
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| Re: Other C64/128 C compilers? [message #209937 is a reply to message #209929] |
Sun, 09 June 2013 17:56 |
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Originally posted by: <silverdr
Groepaz <groepaz@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> Obviously there seems not be room for a different opinion here, even from
>>> someone who wrote in C for a living for 30 years. It's not meant to
>>> burn... it's another point of view.
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>> The lack of floats problem is a "burning" problem of cc65 IMHO.
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> not sure about that really.... floats are terribly slow on 8bit platforms, i
> never really missed them at all - there is nothing you cant do without them
> :)
Well.. There is nothing you can't do without a C compiler either ;-)
In fact, generally I agree with you but floats are C standard. And lack of
them is one of the most visible deviations. I'd prefer compiler warning
"this is going to be slow, please consider moving your decimal point and
using ints" ;-) rather than an error message.
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SD!
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