{"id":12587,"date":"2016-05-13T09:03:47","date_gmt":"2016-05-13T13:03:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.megalextoria.com\/wordpress\/?p=12587"},"modified":"2016-05-13T09:03:47","modified_gmt":"2016-05-13T13:03:47","slug":"libertarians-team-cap-or-team-stark","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.megalextoria.com\/wordpress\/index.php\/2016\/05\/13\/libertarians-team-cap-or-team-stark\/","title":{"rendered":"Libertarians: Team Cap or Team Stark?"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/fee.org\/articles\/libertarians-team-cap-or-team-stark\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.megalextoria.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/coverlg_home1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"clear-this mainContent\">\n<p>The liberty movement must\u00a0decide now, once and for all, where our allegiance truly lies: Team Cap or Team Stark. We are talking, of course, about the new summer blockbuster <em>Captain America: Civil War<\/em>, and the epic showdown between Captain America and Iron Man.\u00a0<em>Warning: here be (some) spoilers<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>The film starts in the aftermath of the previous Avengers movies \u2014 briefly summarized: very destructive battles between good and evil, in which the Avengers heroically save the day, but unfortunately, in their efforts, a large number of innocent people are killed. In its opening scene, <em>Civil War<\/em> shows us the danger the Avengers pose to bystanders, when Scarlet Witch and Captain America accidentally cause the deaths of seven civilians in Nigeria.<\/p>\n<p>In response to this international incident, world leaders design the \u201cSokovia Accords\u201d (named after the site of a previous Avengers\u2019 battle) to regulate the superheroes. Secretary of State Thaddeus \u201cThunderbolt\u201d Ross tells the Avengers the treaty is \u201capproved by one hundred and seventeen countries. It states that the Avengers shall no longer be a private organization. Instead, they&#8217;ll operate under the supervision of a United Nations panel, only when and if that panel deems it necessary.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Tony Stark (a.k.a. Iron Man) insists that the Avengers need the Accords to provide accountability and oversight. Citing their history of deadly collateral damage, he argues, \u201cWe need to be put in check! Whatever form that takes, I\u2019m game. If we can&#8217;t accept limitations&#8230; We\u2019re no better than the bad guys.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But Steve Rogers (a.k.a. Captain America) warns against the dangers of government control. The UN, says Rogers, \u201cis run by people with agendas, and agendas change. \u2026 If we sign this, we surrender our right to <em>choose<\/em>. What if this panel sends us somewhere we don&#8217;t think we should go? What if there\u2019s somewhere we need to go, and they don&#8217;t let us? \u2026 The safest hands are still our own.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Case for Team\u00a0Stark<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>After a speech like that, most libertarians would\u00a0side with Team Cap, but Stark\u2019s arguments should not be dismissed out of hand.<\/p>\n<p>Holding powerful people accountable for their actions \u2014 whether it\u2019s the government or a nominally private vigilante group \u2014 is not a weird or unreasonable idea. In <em>Avengers: Age of Ultron<\/em>, Tony Stark and Bruce Banner (the nerdy alter ego of the Hulk) created an artificial intelligence named Ultron to protect Earth from aliens and other super-threats; instead, Ultron ran\u00a0wild and nearly destroyed all human life.<\/p>\n<p>Even though Stark was vital in ultimately stopping Ultron, he was also responsible for a huge amount of damage caused by his creation, including the destruction of Sokovia. Similarly, Ultron\u2019s former henchman Scarlet Witch eventually helped stop Ultron, but only after she sent the Hulk rampaging through a city, causing massive damage and likely many casualties.<\/p>\n<p>In <em>Civil War<\/em>, after Scarlet Witch has joined the Avengers, she accidentally contributes to seven innocent deaths in Nigeria. But merely by being part of the \u201cgood guys,\u201d she appears\u00a0protected from any kind of accountability, with\u00a0no real repercussions nor even a <em>process<\/em> for assessing responsibility.<\/p>\n<p>As a viewer, we have the benefit of perfect information and perfect hindsight on the Avengers\u2019 actions and intentions, but the people living within the Marvel Cinematic Universe do not, creating reasonable fears that the Avengers&#8217; great power may not be exercised with great responsibility.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Case for Team Cap<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Stark\u2019s appeal for accountability has\u00a0merit, but Captain America astutely notes the dangers of government control when he asks what would happen if the UN orders them to do something they shouldn\u2019t, or stops\u00a0them from doing something they should. \u201cWe\u2019re not taking responsibility for our actions,\u201d he says of the Accords. \u201cThis document just shifts the blame.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cap essentially asks, if we give power to these governments to dictate the Avenger\u2019s actions, what will prevent <em>them<\/em> from making misguided decisions or being infiltrated by malicious forces? In other words, the Accords don\u2019t solve the problem of holding power accountable, they just shift it from the Avengers to a new and unknown group, who will get to dictate their actions.<\/p>\n<p>Secretary Ross and Tony Stark cite three major cases to argue for government oversight of the Avengers: 1) the battle against the alien invaders in New York City in <em>The<\/em> <em>Avengers<\/em>, 2) the violence in Washington, DC, in <em>Captain America: Winter Soldier<\/em>, and 3) the destruction of Sokovia in <em>Avengers: Age of Ultron<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>From their perspective, the destruction and collateral damage caused by the Avengers naturally justifies government control. \u201cWhatever form that takes, I\u2019m game,\u201d Stark says.<\/p>\n<p>However, the relevant question is <em>not<\/em>whether private actors behave\u00a0perfectly \u2014 of course, they don\u2019t. Rather, the question is whether governments, composed of equally fallible people, can reliably improve the situation given their information and incentives. Identifying a problem does not inherently justify government intervention to fix it without <em>first<\/em>showing both that the government <em>can<\/em>fix it <em>and<\/em> that its\u00a0specific policy\u00a0<em>would<\/em>fix it \u2014 without also creating a worse problem or sacrificing other more important values.<\/p>\n<p>Captain America sees a basic public choice problem with government taking over the Avengers: why would world politicians do any better? Do they have better knowledge, better incentives, or better intentions? Cap argues, \u201cI know we\u2019re not perfect, but the safest hands are still our own.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Who\u2019s <em>Really<\/em> More Trustworthy?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Two of the cases cited by Stark and Secretary Ross cut directly against the case for more government. First, during the alien invasion in <em>The Avengers<\/em>, the government tried to stop the invasion by firing a nuclear missile at New York \u2014 which Stark intercepted and sent into the alien spaceship, thus simultaneously saving New York from rampaging alien hoards and government \u201coversight.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Second, in <em>Captain America: Winter Soldier<\/em>, Cap saves the world from the government agency S.H.I.E.L.D., which had been secretly taken over by a Nazi death cult and was planning to kill millions of people with a\u00a0fleet of flying death machines (\u201chelicarriers,\u201d not drones).<\/p>\n<p>Government supervision\u00a0during the alien invasion nearly killed everyone in New York, and the violence in Washington, DC, resulted from Captain America<em>stopping<\/em> the harm caused by the government itself. Based on their past experiences, the Avengers should be very skeptical of government control. In most of the cases, government posed a much bigger threat than the alternative of (in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/character\/ch0188712\/quotes\">Stark\u2019s own words<\/a> in <em>Iron Man 2<\/em>) \u201cprivatized world peace.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Secretary Ross correctly identifies\u00a0a real danger originating from the Avengers in the Ultron fiasco. Tony Stark and Bruce Banner created Ultron, and Sokovia was obliterated as a result. But, in this case, the Accords would not have helped. The Ultron problem did not come from the Avengers lawlessly rampaging around the world but from an R&amp;D project gone awry. (Stark points out that the Avengers \u201cdropped a building\u201d on civilians while battling Ultron, but while that is their fault, it\u2019s not clear how having UN-approval to go fight would have prevented such collateral damage.)<\/p>\n<p>The only regulations that could have plausibly prevented Ultron would have been control over all research into artificial intelligence, control that would have had to extend far outside of the Avengers and into all computer science research around the globe \u2014 an unwieldy, unrealistic, and intrusive violation of people\u2019s privacy, not to mention a huge burden on scientific progress.<\/p>\n<p>The government does not have a such great track record on safe scientific research, either. In his condemnation of the Avengers, Secretary Ross sarcastically asks, \u201cTell me, Captain, do you know where Thor and Banner are right now? Cause you can bet if I misplaced a couple of 30-megaton warheads, there&#8217;d be consequences.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"quote\">However, as is often the case, the right process is behind door number three: the liberty approach.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Yet it was then-Lt. General <em>Ross<\/em>, while in charge of the Army\u2019s supersoldier program, who accidentally transformed Banner into the Hulk in the first place, and then subsequently lost track of him! For him, the consequences of misplacing a 30-megaton warhead\u00a0were to be appointed Secretary of State. Apparently, that\u2019s the kind of supervision and accountability government bureaucracy actually fosters.<\/p>\n<p><strong>A\u00a0Better Way<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In forcing us to choose between Team Cap and Team Stark, <em>Civil War<\/em> presents a false dichotomy: either cede control of the Avengers to the UN or continue to have no accountability at all \u2014 a choice between the dangers of concentrated power and the dangers of unaccountable private individuals.<\/p>\n<p>However, as is often the case, the right process is behind door number three: the liberty approach.<\/p>\n<p>There are two basic ways to hold people accountable:\u00a0command-and-control regulators\u00a0telling them what to do beforehand (Ross and Stark\u2019s solution) or courts requiring them to provide compensation to injured parties when they cause harm.<\/p>\n<p>Centralized regulatory agencies have all the typical problems of government: corruption, bad incentives, insufficient knowledge, and stifling innovation. In contrast, tort law holds people accountable if and when they hurt others or recklessly put them\u00a0at risk. This decentralized mechanism allows for a free, innovative, and diverse market, while still holding people responsible for their actions.<\/p>\n<p>In the context of superheroes, torts could provide the accountability Stark needs without the dangers of government control Cap fears. Rather than having the government direct the Avengers\u2019 missions or stringently regulate their actions, the Avengers can be held accountable through the courts: if they cause damage, they have to justify their actions and, if found liable, make restitution or face punishment.<\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, in his quest for accountability for himself and the Avengers, Stark overlooks the dangers of state control, leading to abuse of his friends by a powerful and unaccountable government. On the other hand, although Rogers correctly identifies that threat, he attempts to unduly insulate his friends\u00a0from accountability. He may be right that \u201cthe best hands are still their\u00a0own,\u201d but if those hands smash buildings to pieces, they shouldn&#8217;t simply be able to\u00a0hide behind government protection. Just like any private citizens, the Avengers should be subject to civil liability and criminal prosecution for their actions \u2014 and just like anyone, they may claim self-defense and <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Necessity\">necessity<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>What is the correct outcome of such a process for the Avengers\u2019 actions in Sokovia, Nigeria, New York, and DC? It\u2019s hard to know in advance. Stark endangered the world by the mistakes he made creating\u00a0Ultron, but he also helped save the world from it. Did he act recklessly or negligently? Should he have known better? Would jailing him make the world safer, or deter reckless behavior in the future by other scientists or superheroes?<\/p>\n<p>These are hard questions to answer. A decentralized, open-ended approach won\u2019t guarantee you a certain outcome, but that\u2019s the risk of freedom. The risks of centralized government control you can see for yourself \u2014 in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fandango.com\/captainamerica:civilwar_185792\/movieoverview\">theaters<\/a> and in<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2013\/jun\/23\/edward-snowden-nsa-files-timeline\">newspapers<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"author-group\">\n<\/div>\n<p>Source: <em><a href=\"http:\/\/fee.org\/articles\/libertarians-team-cap-or-team-stark\/\">Libertarians: Team Cap or Team Stark? | Foundation for Economic Education<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The liberty movement must\u00a0decide now, once and for all, where our allegiance truly lies: Team Cap or Team Stark. We are talking, of course, about the new summer blockbuster Captain America: Civil War, and the epic showdown between Captain America and Iron Man.\u00a0Warning: here be (some) spoilers. The film starts in the aftermath of the previous Avengers movies \u2014 briefly summarized: very destructive battles between good and evil, in which the Avengers heroically save the day, but unfortunately, in their efforts, a large number of innocent people are killed. In its opening scene, Civil War shows us the danger the Avengers pose to bystanders, when Scarlet Witch and Captain America accidentally cause the deaths of seven civilians in Nigeria. In response to this international incident, world leaders design the \u201cSokovia Accords\u201d (named after the site of a previous Avengers\u2019 battle) to regulate the superheroes. Secretary of State Thaddeus \u201cThunderbolt\u201d Ross tells the Avengers the treaty is \u201capproved by one hundred and seventeen countries. It states that the Avengers shall no longer be a private organization. Instead, they&#8217;ll operate under the supervision of a United Nations panel, only when and if that panel deems it necessary.\u201d Tony Stark (a.k.a. Iron Man) [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[15],"tags":[377,924,1031,1811],"class_list":["post-12587","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news-and-politics","tag-captain-america","tag-iron-man","tag-libertarianism","tag-tony-stark"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.megalextoria.com\/wordpress\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12587","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.megalextoria.com\/wordpress\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.megalextoria.com\/wordpress\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.megalextoria.com\/wordpress\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.megalextoria.com\/wordpress\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12587"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.megalextoria.com\/wordpress\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12587\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.megalextoria.com\/wordpress\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12587"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.megalextoria.com\/wordpress\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12587"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.megalextoria.com\/wordpress\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12587"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}