Xref: utzoo can.general:1753 can.politics:2766 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!watmath!ubc-cs!van-bc!uunet!microsoft!robertfe From: robertfe@microsoft.UUCP (Robert Ferguson 2/1073) Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics Subject: Nuremberg Laws (Was: Re: STOP Signs) Message-ID: <7818@microsoft.UUCP> Date: 23 Sep 89 18:35:41 GMT References: <1989Sep6.222038.2707@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> <1178@mannix.iros1.UUCP> Reply-To: robertfe@microsoft.UUCP (Robert Ferguson) Distribution: can Organization: Microsoft Corp., Redmond WA Lines: 43 In article <1178@mannix.iros1.UUCP> leonard@iros1.UUCP (Nicolas Leonard) writes: >In article <1989Sep6.222038.2707@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> gbs@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Gideon Sheps) writes: >>and was therefor subject to alteraton long before >>they had the nerve to re-enact the Nurenburg laws. > >Si c'est une plaisanterie, elle n'est pas tres drole. > >Si c'est dit serieusement, je crois qu'il y a des excuses qui sont >dues. Ou aux Quebecois ou alors aux survivants, juifs et autres, de ces >lois. Je crois egalement que si cette attitude est courante dans les >universites du Canada Anglais, si on peut faire ce genre d'affirmation >en toute quietude sans eprouver le moindre besoin de se justifier, sans >y provoquer la moindre protestation et meme dans l'approbation generale, >il y a quelque chose de vraiment pourri dans ce pays. > >Universite de Montreal - IRO Nicolas Leonard >leonard@iro.umontreal.ca >leonard%iro.umontreal.ca@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu >uunet!utai!mcgill-vision!iros1!leonard [I'm sure you'll excuse my writing this in English. I am bilingual, but just as I suspect you feel more confortable writing in French, I feel more confortable in English. If this is a problem, let me know, and I'll translate.] Don't you see at least a little bit of a parallel between the Nuremberg Laws and the current situation in Quebec? We have a situation where an identifiable group of people, formerly integrated into society, have some of their civil rights removed because they are members of that group. It is wrong to treat *anyone* as a second class citizen, no matter how "noble" the reason or cause. I'm sure the Nazis thought they were operating from the highest principles in doing what they did. In case you doubt my _bona fides_ to discuss this, I was born in Montreal, lived there for the first 20 years of my life, am fluent in French, and am just as much a Quebecois as you are. Execpt that, by law, I am a second class citizen in my own home. --------- Robert Ferguson ...uunet!microsoft!robertfe