Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!paul.rutgers.edu!jac From: jac@paul.rutgers.edu (Jonathan A. Chandross) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: mouce security. Message-ID:Date: 30 Sep 89 03:07:21 GMT References: <8909291639.aa08421@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> <11191@smoke.BRL.MIL> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 35 TSEMM%ALASKA.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu writes: >[Students stealing mice] gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn) > Sounds to me like you're trying to solve the wrong problem. > Why not tell the students that further theft will not be > tolerated, and the stolen equipment will not be replaced > even though all students will still held responsible for > completing the assignments. You might find that the > student body will police themselves under such circumstances. This is a non-solution that I, fortunately, haven't seen since in a while. Applying your solution, every time a crime is committed some random member of society should be put in jail for it. Soon society will be self policing. This is nonsense. If I can't complete an assignment because SOMEBODY who I don't even KNOW stole a mouse, how can I (1) get the mouse back? (2) see that it doesn't happen again? The morons at Rutgers applied such a policy about 5 years ago. This was when Mac Pascal first came out. Mac Pascal cost several hundred dollars, so the school purchased a few for student use. Copies were damaged (people deleted items from folders, disks were physically damaged, etc.). These copies were not replaced, and students were still responsible for completing assignments. You might try making students swap an student ID for a mouse. This will tend to insure that you get them back in one piece. Jonathan A. Chandross Internet: jac@paul.rutgers.edu UUCP: rutgers!paul.rutgers.edu!jac