Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: bnr-fos!bmers58!davem@watmath.waterloo.edu (Dave Mielke) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Hating one's parents Message-ID:Date: 29 Sep 89 05:15:53 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 56 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article dg@lakart.uucp (David Goodenough) writes: regarding the precise meaning of Luke 14:26 which says "If any {man} come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.". Our moderator checked out the greek and disclosed that the english word "hate" is quite accurate. >... I am humbled, surprised, and a little confused. >Can you provide any insight to try to clear my confusion, I do not believe that the word "you" in your question was referring to me, but I'll try to answer you anyway. Each of us is indeed commanded to honour his father and his mother, to do unto others (which would include his parents) as he would have them do unto him (which would include love which is the fulfillment of the whole law of God anyway), and to love his neighbour (which again would include his parents) as himself. It is also true that the Scriptures, which are the perfect Word of God, cannot contain any contradictions. This means that it is essential that we find harmony between these Scriptures if we want to be sure that we understand any of them correctly. The Scripture which clarifies it all for me is Deuteronomy 13:6-11 which says "If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which {is} as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; {Namely}, of the gods of the people which {are} round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the {one} end of the earth even unto the {other} end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.". Our loyalty to even those who are closest to us here on this earth must NEVER come between ourselves and God. We may never compromise our love for God in order to either please or satisfy the whims of some person. The love that any of us has for even his parents, children or spouse, must pale in comparison to his love for God. With love for God as the standard, our love even for our most intimate acquaintances must appear, on the same scale, as though it were no more than hatred. This does not mean that we don't love those other people; it just means that our love for God is to be so much more predominant and always must cast the deciding vote when it comes to a decision where there is a conflict. Dave Mielke, 613-726-0014 856 Grenon Avenue Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K2B 6G3