Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!psuvax1!psuvm!uh2 From: UH2@PSUVM.BITNET (Lee Sailer) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Insults Message-ID: <89272.091121UH2@PSUVM.BITNET> Date: 29 Sep 89 13:11:20 GMT Organization: Penn State University Lines: 22 What is it about people who have the word "engineer" in their title or on their diploma that makes them so insulting to the rest of us? So far, everything that people have said that engineers *do* is something that lots of other people *do*, too. Most people "design" their software, "test it", "document it" and so on. Do some of you really believe that engineers have some sort of lock on good sense. Anecdotes will not help this discussion. I once know a programmer that... proves only that you hang around with the wrong people. Sure, it's true that a lot of Computer Science curriculums don't include much of this stuff, but, surprise!, neither do many engineering programs. This is applied stuff specific to a particular job, and thus better left to on the job training. MY MAIN POINT Don't insult me with a lot of unsubstatiated claims about how engineers are superior to others. lee