Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!hplabs!hp-ses!hpcuhb!hpihoah!winch From: winch@hpihoah.HP.COM (Bill Winchester) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Applefest SF '89 Message-ID: <4640010@hpihoah.HP.COM> Date: 28 Sep 89 22:19:15 GMT Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino Lines: 50 I got up Saturday morning (9/23), grabbed two teachers (one of them was my wife ;-) ) and drove to Applefest in San Francisco. The first thing I noticed was that computer hacks like me got clear plastic badge holders and educators got yellow tinted badge holders. Is this new? Anyway, in we went to the exhibits accompanied by a sea of yellow badged educators. Lets see, Apple, Applied Engineering, Incider, Wordperfect, Applied Ingenuity, Macintosh.......MACINTOSH!! What the... Hey! Wait a just a darn minute. Now Mac's might be good computers, might even be better computers, but I'm prejudiced. That right I'm prejudiced against Mac's. I've been using an Apple II since 1980 so I'm partial to my GS, ESPECIALLY AT THE COMPUTER SHOW THATS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR APPLE II'S. This is not a logical issue, its an emotional one. APPLE TAKE YOUR MACS AND SHOVE THEM UP.... Wait, calm down... There I feel better. No.. Mayhaps I don't. Claris isn't here and APDA isn't selling stuff! I bet I'm not the only Apple II user that feels betrayed by apple. I also bet that the marketing types at apple don't understand that this is an emotional issue to us, not a technical or logical one. That's probably a mistake on their part. A mistake that could cost Apple a whole bunch of current users if this trend continues. I'm not a marketing type, so I don't know if this is true. The company (HP) I work for is even in on this. They had a booth. They were hawking our neat laser and color ink jet printers. When I asked them about an interface for the GS (I kinda new the answer), they said that our stuff would only interface to the (you guessed it) MACS. :-( I bought an Applied Engineering Transwarp_GS. What a great product!! Relatively easy to install and it DOES make a difference. When I bought my 1st Apple (Apple II+) back in 1980, I sat right down and wrote an Applesoft Basic program to rotate a truncated cube ( with : deltas for rotation coming from the joystick, page flipping, hidden line ). I worked for Adage, Inc. from 1965-1968 and learned the algorithms there..., but I digress. Anyway, I tried this old program ( written on a 1 mhz machine ) on my IIgs with the transwarp card set at transwarp speed. I couldn't believe my eyes, this thing really screams. Well, by the time we left I began to feel better about the future of Apple II's. Not because of Apple or Claris, but in spite of them. Companys like Applied Engineering, Applied Ingenuity, Zip Technologies, Roger Wagner Publishing, and the educational software companies were even enthusiastic. My wife even felt good about Applefest. She talked to some educators who were promoting their software for teaching English. She expected to see more hackers like me than educators. She won. I won. Well, better times next year! Bill Winchester