Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!hplabs!hplabsz!mayer From: mayer@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM (Niels Mayer) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: HP widgets and wm's Message-ID: <4039@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM> Date: 27 Sep 89 07:35:04 GMT References: <8909261838.AA05704@mycroft.mayo.edu> Reply-To: mayer@hplabs.hp.com (Niels Mayer) Organization: Hewlett-Packard Labs, Software Technology Lab, Palo Alto, CA. Lines: 39 Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: > 1) Are the HP widgets available via FTP, if so where can I get them? I am trying > to build xwebster on a DECstation 3100 (ultrix 3.1) and need the HP widget > set for xwebster. You can get xwebster 1.1 and the x11r3 HP widgets via anonymous ftp from expo.lcs.mit.edu. In directory contrib, you'll see: -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp 42782 Mar 6 1989 xwebster.tar.Z -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp 1546978 Jun 30 23:02 Xhp.R3.tar.Z I have no idea whether xwebster/Xhp.R3 works on the DECstation 3100. If you want to give me one of these puppies as a home machine, I'll check it out for you.... heck, I'll even port, enhance, and maintain it! :-) > 2) A recent project has spawned the need for me to learn more (possibly > write) about window managers. Any suggestions as to appropriate sources? > I really would like to find something like "Everything you always wanted to > know ..." or "How to write WM's 101". Documentation: the famed and fabled ICCCM. It certainly ain't a how-to guide. Implementations: Take a look at gwm, also in expo.lcs.mit.edu's contrib directory. It's "the gnuemacs of window managers" and uses a mini-lisp customization language. Customizing this may keep you from having to write your own, thereby preserving your sanity. I don't use gwm, but that's because I need to use the motif window manager... it's the only one ICCCM compliant-enough to work with the Motif toolkit. PS: please don't ask me about getting the xwebster server. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Niels Mayer -- hplabs!mayer -- mayer@hplabs.hp.com Human-Computer Interaction Department Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto, CA. *