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From: lrbartram@watcgl.waterloo.edu (lyn bartram)
Newsgroups: can.politics,can.general
Subject: Re: Nuremberg Laws (Was: Re: STOP Signs)
Message-ID: <11754@watcgl.waterloo.edu>
Date: 3 Oct 89 23:46:10 GMT
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In article <1170@zap.UUCP> fortin@zap.UUCP (Denis Fortin) writes:
>
>The latest statistics I've seen put the overall tax load for Ontario
>at about the same level as that for Quebec.  Apparently, the Ontario
>liberals have been raising taxes while their Quebec counterparts have
>been fairly succesful at curbing the increases...  (Would anybody have
>any numbers to confirm/deny this?  I heard this on a show on the economy 
>on Montreal radio.  Though I don't think they meant simply the income tax.)

	All i can cite is my own experience. I moved to Ontario three years
ago. Then i was a student; now i'm working.  AS a student i found it *much*
easier to live well in Montreal than in southern Ontario.  Rents are
significantly less, there's lots of free nifty things to do, car
insurance is much cheaper.  But i expected when my income rose drastically
that i'd be happier to be here (fiscally speaking).  Wrong!  By the time i
factor in OHIP for my husband and myself, car insurance, income tax, and
sales tax, i'd come out better in Quebec than here.  This is a radical
change from five years ago.  Note that i haven't included car insurance nor
rent/cost of housing, since i realize there are other forces at work beyond
provincial control.
	Perhaps my political outlook will change (now that i'm making
money) and i would feel
overburdened by taxes in Quebec as opposed to Alberta.  I assert, however,
that it is easier to live a nice lifestyle for proportionally less money
in Montreal than in most other cities in the country (and i've lived all
over).  Moreover, although one poster called Quebec "over-socialistic", it is
the only province which guarantees freedom from discrimination based on
sexual orientation, the rights of children, the rights of women (including the
most liberal abortion policy in the country) and actively promotes
consumer protection.  THHIS POSTING IS NOT ABOUT WHAT IT DOES TO MY RIGHTS
AS AN ANGLOPHONE, OK??? I just wanted to show that while the scales tip 
wildly in my home province, they do not always go in the *wrong* way.