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From: rogerj@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Roger Jagoda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Help...
Message-ID: <8934@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>
Date: 26 Sep 89 00:11:33 GMT
References: <5533@tank.uchicago.edu>
Reply-To: rogerj@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Roger Jagoda)
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In article <5533@tank.uchicago.edu> phd_ivo@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>		a way to do so from a terminal?
 
Try this, but don't tell the users...:-)
 
/usr/etc/nppower off
 
Check out the man page on nppower...pretty nifty utility!
 
>
>Finally, let me cast my vote on netinfo. I spent today recreating
>1.0, since my last version---after deletion of the /me account and
>some fiddling around with hostnames and groups---would just refuse
>to start up  netinfod. (nibindd was running). Nothing I could think
>of would allow me to restart netinfo, so that I could see what was wrong
>in the first place (no bootup error, either).
>
>Please, NeXT, allow us a way to save the entire NetInfo environment
>to one file (I've tried copying old /etc/netinfo/local.nidb, but that
>completely screwed up the bootup), so that users can experiment with
>changes, and, if they fail, that the old state can be restored painlessly.
>
Me too! I don't know of any other system where I can update and rdist
over 500 user names without regard to "where" they actually live. Now,
I didn't live with the early bugs in NFS or YP but they both survived.
I honestly believe in NetInfo (although it was a REAL struggle in 0.9),
if only for the passwd info...the domains idea is truly great and clever
and all that! Really, play with it for a long while, you'll see too, or
am I the only one with over 200 users on these things to keep track of.
I will admit it makes things easier being a NeXT-only net. I've had
many reports of NeXT nibindd and netinfod causing MULTO problems with
mixed nets. I haven't tested it under 1.0 yet...let ya know.
 
How I solve the problem of returning to what I had before I made my
last change is to use a tar:
 
cd /etc/netinfo              
tar -cvf NEWNET.tar network.nidb
 
Then, after I make some more changes, if they don't pan out, I just rm -rf the
whole directoy and untar (tar -xvf NEWNET). Simple, if a bit crude. That's
when I'm working in "/", but the same can be done for "." or ".." (the
".." I never did figure out how to use...maybe under 1.0..:-)  )
 
Roger Jagoda
Cornell University
FQOJ@CORNELLA.CIT.CORNELL.EDU
(607) 255-8960