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From: kim@watsup.waterloo.edu (T. Kim Nguyen)
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Subject: Re: Nuremberg Laws (Was: Re: STOP Signs)
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Date: 26 Sep 89 15:46:04 GMT
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In-reply-to: derome@cs.toronto.edu's message of 25 Sep 89 18:21:53 GMT

In article <89Sep25.142059edt.2368@neat.cs.toronto.edu> derome@cs.toronto.edu (Philippe Derome) writes:

   Le gouvernement du Quebec a laisse impunis de nombreux violateurs
   de ses lois (illegalites dans l'ecole et l'affichage).  Les Nazis
   auraient ete sans doute plus vigilants, non?

La n'est pas la question.  The fact that those laws exist is enough to
show that Quebec is treating non-francophones as lesser human beings,
with rights that don't quite count as much as francophones'.

   Plusieurs nationalistes contrairement a ces commercants ont ete mis
   en prison en 1970 sans proces (lors de la crise du FLQ).  Le
   meritaient-ils? Dans une societe avec certaines querelles
   politiques, il y aura des incidents deplorables. Est-ce que je
   cherche a faire un parallele entre Trudeau et d'autre personalites
   desagreables?  C'est de lui directement que des Gerald Godin ont
   ete victimes pas de quelques voyous ou criminels.

Let's not forget that those terrorists and murderers, after a
"self-exile" (oh my heart bleeds), returned to a hero's welcome in
Quebec, and were unfortunately and interestingly denied the just
rewards (prison) for their heinous crimes.  Pardoned, my a**!  Show me
where the justice is in that!

   L'attitude des Quebecois envers les Anglais est tres tolerante. Il
   n'y a qu'a voir l'ensemble des services sociaux des services de
   sante et d'education disponibles pour la clientele anglophone, une
   situation fort enviable.

So what you're saying is it's OK to give with the one hand, and to
take away rights with the other?  This makes things equitable?  Tit
for tat?  Francophones elsewhere in Canada may lack services in
French, but they certainly do not account for as large a proportion of
their regional population as Quebec anglophones.

   Le racisme, pour moi consiste a avoir des idees preconcues non
   valides envers un groupe qu'on associe a une race (dans le sens
   plus etendu que vous utilisez, on peut penser a un groupe
   linguistique ou religieux).

   Philippe Derome

I don't think this is a complete definition.  Racism also consists of
actions taken against a discernable group of people without their
consent.  Again, it all boils down to the majority imposing its wishes
on minorities with impunity -- a basic flaw of the democratic system.
Or then again, it just might be an abuse of power, done with the
help of Mulroney and his nifty Meech Lake Accord.  Two distinct
societies, ya right.
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