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From: kim@watsup.waterloo.edu (T. Kim Nguyen)
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Subject: Re: Nuremberg Laws (Was: Re: STOP Signs)
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Date: 28 Sep 89 16:57:59 GMT
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In-reply-to: fortin@zap.UUCP's message of 27 Sep 89 05:32:20 GMT

In article <1147@zap.UUCP> fortin@zap.UUCP (Denis Fortin) writes:

   In article  kim@watsup.waterloo.edu (T. Kim Nguyen) writes:
	[nasty posting about how I detest fascist Quebec nationalists]

   Wow! That's pretty heavy stuff, Kim! I guess it doesn't matter too much,
   because with an attitude like that I'm sure the French-speaking
   population of Quebec would probably feel better if you can help having
   anything to do with them for a long long time anyway!

   And, by the way, I hope that you don't feel too bad if I try to do
   my best not to go to oblivion!  (especially economic oblivion, that
   wouldn't be too nice to young Olivier)

    Denis Fortin,                            | fortin@zap.uucp

*sigh*  I wrote my nasty posting when I was in a nasty mood.  I'd been
reading about the (then upcoming) elections in Quebec and I'd had a
couple of heated arguments with people about them.  I never meant to
say that I don't like anyone who happens to be French and from Quebec!
After all, *I* *am* a Quebec francophone, and I have many friends who
are too!  I have to say that none of the people I've had close contact
with, at work at CAE or at Logo Computer Systems, or just "around",
have had the strong nationalistic "kick the anglos and the immigrants
out" attitude.  But there is this feeling I get that that attitude is
pervasive, yet invisible to me, in Quebec.  I hate the feeling that
I'm not welcome in my own home province simply because I would like to
see English signs on stores (or Chinese signs in Chinatown).  I
understand the need to preserve own's culture, but why does it have to
be at the cost of someone else's culture, someone who's lived in
Quebec all his or her life, just as the next French Quebecer.  The
English have been in Quebec almost as long as the French have; have
the English no right to live their own culture there as well??  

Other reasons I had for blowing up in my previous posting:  I haven't
stopped hearing about corrupt and hypocritical politicians from
Quebec, not only in regards to their handling of and attitudes on the
language debate, but also simply in terms of their greed (see Mayor
Jean Dore of Montreal and his nifty little Italian piano, and his
decision to turn the Velodrome into an oversized botanical garden at
costs of several million $$$, taxpayers' money all of it).  This on
top of paying higher taxes to finance a overly-socialistic and
over-unionized province (although unfortunately Quebec MNAs can offer
themselves 10%+ salary increases while they can't pay overworked
nurses).  Well, that's my beef about Quebec, and that's why it all had
a cumulative effect on me when I posted my nasty message.

I'm terribly sorry to have offended anyone, especially YOU Denis!  My
deepest apologies, and I will curb my thoughts, as well as my tongue.  
--
T. Kim Nguyen 				  kim@watsup.waterloo.{edu|cdn}
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