Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!hplabs!hp-sdd!apollo!rehrauer From: rehrauer@apollo.HP.COM (Steve Rehrauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Portable Mac vs STACY Message-ID: <45e9895f.71d0@apollo.HP.COM> Date: 28 Sep 89 18:23:00 GMT References: <2122@kodak.UUCP> <45da3096.14a1f@force.UUCP> Reply-To: rehrauer@apollo.COM (Steve Rehrauer) Distribution: na Organization: Apollo Computer, Chelmsford, MA Lines: 57 In article <45da3096.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) writes: >I would like to know how Atari can produce and sell a Laptop ST for under >$2,000 while Apple charges almost $5500 for basically the same machine?? Possibly because Apple produced a real machine for which there will be an upgrade path, support, expandability, etc? Dunno; I haven't seen either. Apple's laptop IS pricey, but perhaps not outlandishly so. The market will decide. >The only real hardware difference between the two machines has to be the LCD >display?? Since when has hardware been the only important factor? TOS is junk. GEM is near-junk in its present buggy ST incarnation. No, that's not fair I guess; TOS & GEM are "priced almost appropriately" -- howzzat? You should pick your hardware based largely on what it will run that you wish to run. Why else would bazillions of people still choose to buy XT/AT-clones (price aside :) ? >Geez, if there is that big of a market for a Laptop Mac , then a LapTop >ST, with the Gadgets By Small (which is now shipping according to the >latest news on GEnie!!!) GCR mac Emulator should sell by the thousands!! I don't follow that logic. As someone else here has already remarked, "emulation" does not a clone make. I bought a Magic Sac for my 520ST because it was a neat hack & fun toy. But depend on it? Pfah! You'll have to tack a few 9's after "99.%" compatible before businesses will buy it. And I doubt the consumer market (i.e.: us) will ever eat more than the first one or 2 of your "thousands" of GCRs, let alone Staceys. >I have seen pictures of the Laptop ST and seen actual Laptop Macs on >TV, and the Laptop ST is much smaller and lighter then the Laptop Mac. >So, let's just hope that Atari can get the Laptop ST out before Apple >eats the market. IBM/NEC/Zenith and Apple >>> OWN <<< the portable market in this country. It's already been eaten. Atari may get a few crumbs in the USA, if they pursue them. [ I find it helps to think of Atari as a European company that builds for Europe, sells in Europe, and just coincidentally happens to live in the U.S. ] >Ken B, or John Townsend, if you read this message PLEASE PLEASE ask Jack >Tramiel to advertise the Laptop ST in the WALL STREET JOURNAL like Atari >has done for the Atari PORTFOLIO!! And mention the GBS GCR cartidge, and >Atari could clean up with the Laptop ST!!! > >Well, its startinf to look good, if only Atari can get the Laptop ST and the >TT out this year!!! I have told my local dealer that I want one!!! My my, SO many exclamation-marks! :) Forget "cold fusion"; if we could only bottle "Atari-owner loyalty" there wouldn't BE an energy crisis. :) (So speaks an ex-Atari-enthusiast.) -- >>> "Aaiiyeeeee! Death from above!" <<< | Steve Rehrauer Fone: (508)256-6600 x6168 | Apollo Computer, a ARPA: rehrauer@apollo.hp.com | division of Hewlett-Packard "Look, Max: 'Pressurized cheese in a can'. Even _WE_ wouldn't eat that!"