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From: salomon@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Dan Salomon)
Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics
Subject: Re: Nuremberg Laws (Was: Re: STOP Signs)
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Date: 26 Sep 89 16:51:38 GMT
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derome@cs.toronto.edu (Philippe Derome) writes:

>Certaines personnes ayant des magasins affichant en anglais ont ete
>effectivement victimes de tels incidents. Ils avaient defie la loi,
>et le gouvernement n'osait pas l'enforcer. Ce sont la des incidents
>regrettables.

The laws were being enforced, at least partly.  The worst "criminals"
were before the courts pleading their case.  Perhaps you want the
punishment before the trial?  The result of the case was that the laws
were found unconstitutional, so the provincial government bypassed the
constitution.

>Le gouvernement du Quebec a laisse impunis de nombreux violateurs
>de ses lois (illegalites dans l'ecole et l'affichage).
>Les Nazis auraient ete sans doute plus vigilants, non?

The only good thing that came out of the NAZI holocaust was that we
learned how far racism could go if left unchecked.  As a result of NAZI
excesses many racist and antisemitic laws in Canada and the US were
abolished.  But laws can still be racist even if they are not full
blown NAZIism.  When someone makes reference to the NAZIs it is a
reminder of where racism leads.

>Plusieurs nationalistes contrairement a ces commercants ont ete
>mis en prison en 1970 sans proces (lors de la crise du FLQ).
>Le meritaient-ils?

You forget that during the FLQ crisis, mailbox bombs were going off in
the streets (with some casualties), political hostages were kidnapped,
and executions were threatened and one was carried out.  The roundup of
suspects seemed more reasonable at the time.

>Ce qu'ils peuvent vouloir, c'est garder eleve le pourcentage de la population
>francophone.

When Quebec joined Canada it was 50% Anglophone and 50% Francophone.
For years the proportion of Francophones increased, and in the 1970's
it hit about 75% depending how you count.  Then it stalled, and started
slowly decreasing.  The ardent nationalists will tolerate no fluc-
tuations in the percentage of Francophones.  It must only increase.
When it hits 100% then they will be happy.