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From: jac@paul.rutgers.edu (Jonathan A. Chandross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: mouce security.
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Date: 30 Sep 89 03:07:21 GMT
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TSEMM%ALASKA.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu writes:
>[Students stealing mice]

gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn)
> Sounds to me like you're trying to solve the wrong problem.
> Why not tell the students that further theft will not be
> tolerated, and the stolen equipment will not be replaced
> even though all students will still held responsible for
> completing the assignments.  You might find that the
> student body will police themselves under such circumstances.

This is a non-solution that I, fortunately, haven't seen since in a
while.  Applying your solution, every time a crime is committed some
random member of society should be put in jail for it.  Soon society
will be self policing.

This is nonsense.  If I can't complete an assignment because SOMEBODY
who I don't even KNOW stole a mouse, how can I
	(1) get the mouse back?
	(2) see that it doesn't happen again?

The morons at Rutgers applied such a policy about 5 years ago.  This
was when Mac Pascal first came out.  Mac Pascal cost several hundred
dollars, so the school purchased a few for student use.  Copies were
damaged (people deleted items from folders, disks were physically 
damaged, etc.).  These copies were not replaced, and students were
still responsible for completing assignments.

You might try making students swap an student ID for a mouse.  This
will tend to insure that you get them back in one piece.


Jonathan A. Chandross
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