Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!apple!usc!aero!keith@pawl.rpi.edu From: keith@pawl.rpi.edu (Keith D. Weiner) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Feminism is a fine word, thank you Message-ID: <1989Oct1.202442.10756@rpi.edu> Date: 1 Oct 89 20:24:42 GMT References: <1880@convex.UUCP> <851@uvaarpa.virginia.edu> <4504@ncar.ucar.edu> <2637@hp-sdd.hp.com> <4525@ncar.ucar.edu> <2766@tymix.UUCP> <4537@ncar.ucar.edu> <4014@unix.SRI.COM>Sender: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Reply-To: keith@pawl.rpi.edu Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY Lines: 6 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org "If self-interest is established as the rule, and the status quo truly favors men, what can men be expected to do but fight to preserve that status quo?" "IF" is a very large word. IF all men were to gain (somehow) by the collectivist sexism, THEN they might wish to preserve it. However, the unearned prejudice does not benefit any man who is competant, THEREFORE we do not support it. Thats the problem with collectivist arguments: they always present an issue as "Win or Lose". "Us or Them".