Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!ginosko!uunet!mcsun!cernvax!ethz!czychi From: czychi@ethz.UUCP (Gary Czychi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: Time for standard cmd-keys & menu c Message-ID: <2062@ethz.UUCP> Date: 24 Sep 89 21:48:05 GMT References: <15720@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU> <227700045@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: czychi@bernina.ethz.ch.UUCP (Gary Czychi) Organization: ETH Zuerich, Switzerland Lines: 48 In article <227700045@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> jpd00964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes: >... >In reality, there are only about 5 command keys that make any sense to have >standard. z,x,c,v,s. What does search mean in a drawing program? Or >... >Michael Rutman No, I don't think so. There are two more command key equivalents which should be mentioned and also be a part of the human interface guidelines: Command - w for close, because nearly every application has a window to close hasn't it? I don't know why the letter 'w' was used here, but anyway it is a de facto standard. (Even MS Word has it :-) Command - p for print. Yes, 'p' like in 'print' and not like in 'plain'. First, not every application is a word processor where you need to choose 'plain' and second, a good word processor should be able treverse for instance 'bold' in, with a good programm you can hit the appropriate command key combo again to reverse the chosen style - and last not least: What do you use more 'print' or 'plain' ?? I think, this is very important for future software and that there should be standard there. I even use and promote the use of these command key equivalents for every application which is written in a foreign language because everyone who has to use software which is written for another country don't want to have to learn different command keys for every application he uses! If you're interested in a discussion on that topic, please contact me, I'd be glad to share my ideas of 'human' interface. Gary Gary T. Czychi University of St.Gallen, Switzerland CZYCHI@CSGHSG52.bitnet (preferred) CZYCHI@ETHZ.uucp Tel.: --41 / 71 / 28 30 55