Xref: utzoo can.general:1770 can.politics:2782 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!watmath!watcgl!kim From: kim@watsup.waterloo.edu (T. Kim Nguyen) Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics Subject: Re: Nuremberg Laws (Was: Re: STOP Signs) Message-ID:Date: 26 Sep 89 15:46:04 GMT References: <1989Sep6.222038.2707@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> <1178@mannix.iros1.UUCP> <7818@microsoft.UUCP> <1989Sep24.234330.5492@ccu.umanitoba.ca> <89Sep25.142059edt.2368@neat.cs.toronto.edu> Sender: daemon@watcgl.waterloo.edu Distribution: can Organization: PAMI Group, U. of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 54 In-reply-to: derome@cs.toronto.edu's message of 25 Sep 89 18:21:53 GMT In article <89Sep25.142059edt.2368@neat.cs.toronto.edu> derome@cs.toronto.edu (Philippe Derome) writes: Le gouvernement du Quebec a laisse impunis de nombreux violateurs de ses lois (illegalites dans l'ecole et l'affichage). Les Nazis auraient ete sans doute plus vigilants, non? La n'est pas la question. The fact that those laws exist is enough to show that Quebec is treating non-francophones as lesser human beings, with rights that don't quite count as much as francophones'. Plusieurs nationalistes contrairement a ces commercants ont ete mis en prison en 1970 sans proces (lors de la crise du FLQ). Le meritaient-ils? Dans une societe avec certaines querelles politiques, il y aura des incidents deplorables. Est-ce que je cherche a faire un parallele entre Trudeau et d'autre personalites desagreables? C'est de lui directement que des Gerald Godin ont ete victimes pas de quelques voyous ou criminels. Let's not forget that those terrorists and murderers, after a "self-exile" (oh my heart bleeds), returned to a hero's welcome in Quebec, and were unfortunately and interestingly denied the just rewards (prison) for their heinous crimes. Pardoned, my a**! Show me where the justice is in that! L'attitude des Quebecois envers les Anglais est tres tolerante. Il n'y a qu'a voir l'ensemble des services sociaux des services de sante et d'education disponibles pour la clientele anglophone, une situation fort enviable. So what you're saying is it's OK to give with the one hand, and to take away rights with the other? This makes things equitable? Tit for tat? Francophones elsewhere in Canada may lack services in French, but they certainly do not account for as large a proportion of their regional population as Quebec anglophones. Le racisme, pour moi consiste a avoir des idees preconcues non valides envers un groupe qu'on associe a une race (dans le sens plus etendu que vous utilisez, on peut penser a un groupe linguistique ou religieux). Philippe Derome I don't think this is a complete definition. Racism also consists of actions taken against a discernable group of people without their consent. Again, it all boils down to the majority imposing its wishes on minorities with impunity -- a basic flaw of the democratic system. Or then again, it just might be an abuse of power, done with the help of Mulroney and his nifty Meech Lake Accord. Two distinct societies, ya right. -- T. Kim Nguyen kim@watsup.waterloo.{edu|cdn} kim@watsup.uwaterloo.ca {uunet|utzoo|utai|decvax}watmath!watsup!kim Systems Design Engineering -- University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada