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From: lpw@jvc.UUCP (Lance Welsh)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: Re: NeWS/X11 merge?
Summary: NeWS/X11 merge status guess
Keywords: xnews NeWS X11
Message-ID: <542@jvc.UUCP>
Date: 26 Sep 89 18:03:55 GMT
References: <445@castle.ed.ac.uk> <563@ssgp32.UU.NET>
Organization: JVC Laboratory of America
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In article <563@ssgp32.UU.NET>, scott@ssgp32.UU.NET (Scott Evernden) writes:
> In article <445@castle.ed.ac.uk>, ajcd@lfcs.ed.ac.uk (Angus Duggan) writes:
> > I've just been reading some articles in this newsgroup which seem to imply that
> > the Sun X11/NeWS merge has been released. Is this true? I've been looking for
> > info on it for a while, but haven't seen anything authoratative. Can someone
> > from Sun comment, please?
> 
> Me too.  Actually, I am now utterly confused as to what Sun's window
> strategy architecture is/will be.  Does the OpenLook GUI sit on top of an
> X11/News server?  Where does SunView fit (below, above, beside)?  Can I
> still pixrect?  Will Motif operate on top of this combined thingy?  Does it
> perform well on anything less than a SPARC?  Will the X11 implementation
> support remote X11 clients (e.g., peecees)?  How is it all organized?  How
> fat is it?  Is this all supported on all Suns?  What should I read???
> 

After attending Sun's technology conference, I have the feeling that
they will release OpenWindows (of which a part of that is the X11/NeWS
window server) by the end of the month.  The recommended platform will
be the sparcstation (8 Mbytes).  Releases on other systems will probably
happen by the end of the year.  OpenWindows includes the OpenLook
user-interface, a DeskSet application, an X toolkit with a SunView API called
XView (not based on the intrinsics), some graphics interface libraries such
as PHIGS and GKS (not on top of the window server yet), the X11/NeWS
window server, OpenFonts, and support for graphic accelerators such as
their GX board.  SunView is not part of it, but there is support for
PixRect called PixWin via the window server, which uses something new.
If Motif is going to run in OpenWindows, it will be the doing of a
third party.  Sun intends for the merged server to be complete -
remote clients and everything.  For a good description on the merged
window server (architecture and compatibility), there is a good paper
on it by Robin Schaufler at Sun.  Size, performance, and platform support
I am also anxious to discover.  The conference was quite good, although
X got most of the attention.  I wonder if/how the opening of Adobe's fonts
will impact the Folio OpenFonts in OpenWindows?

-Lance P. Welsh  uunet!jvc!lpw  JVC Laboratory of America  (408) 988-4675