Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: jko@hila.hut.fi (Jukka Korpela) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: help needed Message-ID:Date: 29 Sep 89 05:16:30 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland Lines: 11 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu I'm neither a Christian nor a theologician, but I love to correct misinformation: You said that for non-Catholic Christians Christ's presence in the Communion is "spiritual". It seems to me that, for cultural reasons, you identify "non-Catholic" with "Calvinist" (in the broad sense). In particular, both the Orthodox church and the Lutheran churches explicitly teach that bread and wine in the Communion are Christ's body and blood. (They differ in the question whether this holds true "extra usum", i.e. outside their use in the Communion.) Admittedly many Lutherans are totally unaware of this.